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STAR WARS: Episode 7 (All-Time #1 opening box office.) (2 Viewers)

Yeah, Episode III was solid.
The gap between EP3 and EP6 is microscopic and one could make a good arguement that 3 was better than the Teddy Bear war.
Please don't kid yourself. Three was awful too. Don't forget the stupidest turn in movie history. Being "dark" doesn't make a film good.
Ewoks beat Stormtroopers dude. Ewoks beat Stormtroopers.
Amen! And don't forget, the weapons of choice for the Ewoks were rocks and sticks. How those incompetent storm troopers couldn't hold off the teddy bears with their blasters is one of the great mysteries of the universe. How is anyone supposed to take the dark side seriously after that bumbling idiocy?

 
Yeah, Episode III was solid.
The gap between EP3 and EP6 is microscopic and one could make a good arguement that 3 was better than the Teddy Bear war.
Please don't kid yourself. Three was awful too. Don't forget the stupidest turn in movie history. Being "dark" doesn't make a film good.
I did not say 3 was great. I was just saying it was no worse than 6.

If you think the Teddy Bears destroying the Empire was good story telling, then I would have to say you are the one kidding yourself.

 
Yeah, Episode III was solid.
The gap between EP3 and EP6 is microscopic and one could make a good arguement that 3 was better than the Teddy Bear war.
Please don't kid yourself. Three was awful too. Don't forget the stupidest turn in movie history. Being "dark" doesn't make a film good.
Ewoks beat Stormtroopers dude. Ewoks beat Stormtroopers.
Amen! And don't forget, the weapons of choice for the Ewoks were rocks and sticks. How those incompetent storm troopers couldn't hold off the teddy bears with their blasters is one of the great mysteries of the universe. How is anyone supposed to take the dark side seriously after that bumbling idiocy?
It is arguably a bigger abomination than Jar Jar. At least Jar Jar only ruined the first movie, not the climax of the series.

 
Yeah, Episode III was solid.
The gap between EP3 and EP6 is microscopic and one could make a good arguement that 3 was better than the Teddy Bear war.
Please don't kid yourself. Three was awful too. Don't forget the stupidest turn in movie history. Being "dark" doesn't make a film good.
Ewoks beat Stormtroopers dude. Ewoks beat Stormtroopers.
Amen! And don't forget, the weapons of choice for the Ewoks were rocks and sticks. How those incompetent storm troopers couldn't hold off the teddy bears with their blasters is one of the great mysteries of the universe. How is anyone supposed to take the dark side seriously after that bumbling idiocy?
Ever heard of guerrilla warfare?

 
Seems the Empire didnt learn from Ep IV when they overlooked small one man fighters being able to destroy the Death Star and allowed a band of cuddly bears with primitive weapons beat them on Endor in VI.

"General Dodonna: Well, the Empire doesn't consider a small one-man fighter to be any threat, or they'd have a tighter defense."

 
Yeah, Episode III was solid.
The gap between EP3 and EP6 is microscopic and one could make a good arguement that 3 was better than the Teddy Bear war.
Please don't kid yourself. Three was awful too. Don't forget the stupidest turn in movie history. Being "dark" doesn't make a film good.
Ewoks beat Stormtroopers dude. Ewoks beat Stormtroopers.
Amen! And don't forget, the weapons of choice for the Ewoks were rocks and sticks. How those incompetent storm troopers couldn't hold off the teddy bears with their blasters is one of the great mysteries of the universe. How is anyone supposed to take the dark side seriously after that bumbling idiocy?
Ever heard of guerrilla warfare?
Sticks and rocks.

 
Yeah, Episode III was solid.
The gap between EP3 and EP6 is microscopic and one could make a good arguement that 3 was better than the Teddy Bear war.
Please don't kid yourself. Three was awful too. Don't forget the stupidest turn in movie history. Being "dark" doesn't make a film good.
Ewoks beat Stormtroopers dude. Ewoks beat Stormtroopers.
Amen! And don't forget, the weapons of choice for the Ewoks were rocks and sticks. How those incompetent storm troopers couldn't hold off the teddy bears with their blasters is one of the great mysteries of the universe. How is anyone supposed to take the dark side seriously after that bumbling idiocy?
Ever heard of guerrilla warfare?
Sure. But in Jedi that would be the equivalent of taking out an armored tank with a sling shot using a rock as ammo.

 
Yeah, Episode III was solid.
The gap between EP3 and EP6 is microscopic and one could make a good arguement that 3 was better than the Teddy Bear war.
Please don't kid yourself. Three was awful too. Don't forget the stupidest turn in movie history. Being "dark" doesn't make a film good.
Ewoks beat Stormtroopers dude. Ewoks beat Stormtroopers.
Amen! And don't forget, the weapons of choice for the Ewoks were rocks and sticks. How those incompetent storm troopers couldn't hold off the teddy bears with their blasters is one of the great mysteries of the universe. How is anyone supposed to take the dark side seriously after that bumbling idiocy?
Ever heard of guerrilla warfare?
Sure. But in Jedi that would be the equivalent of taking out an armored tank with a sling shot using a rock as ammo.
To be fair, they did steal another another armored tank to destroy the empire's. And those walkers really had bad balance.... they didnt seem to account for the rolling logs.

 
The retcon argument for the Endor defeat is that the emperor provided a mental edge to his forces through is powerful dark side mental control (I know reaching here). His focus was solely on the fight between Skywalkers and it left his incompetent draftee forces to fend for themselves. Most of them having never faced a hard battle like the clone troopers did. Once the emperor died, everything fell apart.

Again it doesn't excuse teddy bears vs empire.

 
Yeah, Episode III was solid.
The gap between EP3 and EP6 is microscopic and one could make a good arguement that 3 was better than the Teddy Bear war.
Please don't kid yourself. Three was awful too. Don't forget the stupidest turn in movie history. Being "dark" doesn't make a film good.
Ewoks beat Stormtroopers dude. Ewoks beat Stormtroopers.
Amen! And don't forget, the weapons of choice for the Ewoks were rocks and sticks. How those incompetent storm troopers couldn't hold off the teddy bears with their blasters is one of the great mysteries of the universe. How is anyone supposed to take the dark side seriously after that bumbling idiocy?
Ever heard of guerrilla warfare?
Sure. But in Jedi that would be the equivalent of taking out an armored tank with a sling shot using a rock as ammo.
To be fair, they did steal another another armored tank to destroy the empire's. And those walkers really had bad balance.... they didnt seem to account for the rolling logs.
The log scene was cringe worthy :)

I don't remember the timeline but didn't the Ewoks destroy one of the AT ST's with the two logs crushing it like tinfoil, before Chewy stole the other one?

 
Yeah, Episode III was solid.
The gap between EP3 and EP6 is microscopic and one could make a good arguement that 3 was better than the Teddy Bear war.
Please don't kid yourself. Three was awful too. Don't forget the stupidest turn in movie history. Being "dark" doesn't make a film good.
Ewoks beat Stormtroopers dude. Ewoks beat Stormtroopers.
Amen! And don't forget, the weapons of choice for the Ewoks were rocks and sticks. How those incompetent storm troopers couldn't hold off the teddy bears with their blasters is one of the great mysteries of the universe. How is anyone supposed to take the dark side seriously after that bumbling idiocy?
Ever heard of guerrilla warfare?
Sure. But in Jedi that would be the equivalent of taking out an armored tank with a sling shot using a rock as ammo.
To be fair, they did steal another another armored tank to destroy the empire's. And those walkers really had bad balance.... they didnt seem to account for the rolling logs.
The log scene was cringe worthy :) I don't remember the timeline but didn't the Ewoks destroy one of the AT ST's with the two logs crushing it like tinfoil, before Chewy stole the other one?
Yes

 
Yeah, Episode III was solid.
The gap between EP3 and EP6 is microscopic and one could make a good arguement that 3 was better than the Teddy Bear war.
Please don't kid yourself. Three was awful too. Don't forget the stupidest turn in movie history. Being "dark" doesn't make a film good.
Ewoks beat Stormtroopers dude. Ewoks beat Stormtroopers.
Amen! And don't forget, the weapons of choice for the Ewoks were rocks and sticks. How those incompetent storm troopers couldn't hold off the teddy bears with their blasters is one of the great mysteries of the universe. How is anyone supposed to take the dark side seriously after that bumbling idiocy?
Ever heard of guerrilla warfare?
Sure. But in Jedi that would be the equivalent of taking out an armored tank with a sling shot using a rock as ammo.
I was just joking.

The main problem with the Ewoks besides their weaponry was that they were so slow and bumbling. They looked just as out of their element in the forest as the stormtroopers did. If they had shown superior speed, agility, tree climbing etc.. then the ambush would have been more believable.

 
Yeah, Episode III was solid.
The gap between EP3 and EP6 is microscopic and one could make a good arguement that 3 was better than the Teddy Bear war.
Please don't kid yourself. Three was awful too. Don't forget the stupidest turn in movie history. Being "dark" doesn't make a film good.
Ewoks beat Stormtroopers dude. Ewoks beat Stormtroopers.
Amen! And don't forget, the weapons of choice for the Ewoks were rocks and sticks. How those incompetent storm troopers couldn't hold off the teddy bears with their blasters is one of the great mysteries of the universe. How is anyone supposed to take the dark side seriously after that bumbling idiocy?
Ever heard of guerrilla warfare?
Sure. But in Jedi that would be the equivalent of taking out an armored tank with a sling shot using a rock as ammo.
I was just joking. The main problem with the Ewoks besides their weaponry was that they were so slow and bumbling. They looked just as out of their element in the forest as the stormtroopers did. If they had shown superior speed, agility, tree climbing etc.. then the ambush would have been more believable.
Like if they were wookies instead?

 
Yeah, Episode III was solid.
The gap between EP3 and EP6 is microscopic and one could make a good arguement that 3 was better than the Teddy Bear war.
Please don't kid yourself. Three was awful too. Don't forget the stupidest turn in movie history. Being "dark" doesn't make a film good.
Ewoks beat Stormtroopers dude. Ewoks beat Stormtroopers.
Amen! And don't forget, the weapons of choice for the Ewoks were rocks and sticks. How those incompetent storm troopers couldn't hold off the teddy bears with their blasters is one of the great mysteries of the universe. How is anyone supposed to take the dark side seriously after that bumbling idiocy?
It is arguably a bigger abomination than Jar Jar. At least Jar Jar only ruined the first movie, not the climax of the series.
The Ewoks would never have survived the internet age.

 
Yeah, Episode III was solid.
The gap between EP3 and EP6 is microscopic and one could make a good arguement that 3 was better than the Teddy Bear war.
Please don't kid yourself. Three was awful too. Don't forget the stupidest turn in movie history. Being "dark" doesn't make a film good.
Ewoks beat Stormtroopers dude. Ewoks beat Stormtroopers.
Amen! And don't forget, the weapons of choice for the Ewoks were rocks and sticks. How those incompetent storm troopers couldn't hold off the teddy bears with their blasters is one of the great mysteries of the universe. How is anyone supposed to take the dark side seriously after that bumbling idiocy?
Ever heard of guerrilla warfare?
Sure. But in Jedi that would be the equivalent of taking out an armored tank with a sling shot using a rock as ammo.
I was just joking.The main problem with the Ewoks besides their weaponry was that they were so slow and bumbling. They looked just as out of their element in the forest as the stormtroopers did. If they had shown superior speed, agility, tree climbing etc.. then the ambush would have been more believable.
Like if they were wookies instead? had high quality CGI in 1983?
 
Yeah, Episode III was solid.
The gap between EP3 and EP6 is microscopic and one could make a good arguement that 3 was better than the Teddy Bear war.
Please don't kid yourself. Three was awful too. Don't forget the stupidest turn in movie history. Being "dark" doesn't make a film good.
Ewoks beat Stormtroopers dude. Ewoks beat Stormtroopers.
Amen! And don't forget, the weapons of choice for the Ewoks were rocks and sticks. How those incompetent storm troopers couldn't hold off the teddy bears with their blasters is one of the great mysteries of the universe. How is anyone supposed to take the dark side seriously after that bumbling idiocy?
Ever heard of guerrilla warfare?
Sure. But in Jedi that would be the equivalent of taking out an armored tank with a sling shot using a rock as ammo.
I was just joking.The main problem with the Ewoks besides their weaponry was that they were so slow and bumbling. They looked just as out of their element in the forest as the stormtroopers did. If they had shown superior speed, agility, tree climbing etc.. then the ambush would have been more believable.
Like if they were wookies instead?
Yeah, I never understood the hate for Ewoks but the love for Wookies.

 
There is a lot of hate for Ep VI, most of which is understandable.

But for me it has huge nostalgia so I love it, ewoks and all. It's one of my earliest movie theater memories, sitting in a row with my buds counting the minutes until the movie starts... for a 9 year old, it was awesome. The 3 battle scenes going at once, the reveal of Luke and Leia being siblings (and not putting remembering that they kissed in earlier films), Vader saving Luke....

Looking back, sure the Ewoks being a main reason for the empire losing makes no sense, but overall its still fun.

My ranking:

V

IV

VI & III

II

I

 
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Yeah, Episode III was solid.
The gap between EP3 and EP6 is microscopic and one could make a good arguement that 3 was better than the Teddy Bear war.
Please don't kid yourself. Three was awful too. Don't forget the stupidest turn in movie history. Being "dark" doesn't make a film good.
Ewoks beat Stormtroopers dude. Ewoks beat Stormtroopers.
Amen! And don't forget, the weapons of choice for the Ewoks were rocks and sticks. How those incompetent storm troopers couldn't hold off the teddy bears with their blasters is one of the great mysteries of the universe. How is anyone supposed to take the dark side seriously after that bumbling idiocy?
Ever heard of guerrilla warfare?
Sure. But in Jedi that would be the equivalent of taking out an armored tank with a sling shot using a rock as ammo.
I was just joking.The main problem with the Ewoks besides their weaponry was that they were so slow and bumbling. They looked just as out of their element in the forest as the stormtroopers did. If they had shown superior speed, agility, tree climbing etc.. then the ambush would have been more believable.
Like if they were wookies instead?
Yeah, I never understood the hate for Ewoks but the love for Wookies.
I don't think there is anymore love for the Wookies than the Ewoks.

For most people the Wookie battle in 3 was slightly more believable because of the weapons and the physical size of the Wookies.

Of memory serves, Lucas originally intended for the Endor battle to be with Wookies instead of the Ewoks.

 
There is a lot of hate for Ep VI, most of which is understandable.

But for me it has huge nostalgia so I love it, ewoks and all. It's one of my earliest movie theater memories, sitting in a row with my buds counting the minutes until the movie starts... for a 9 year old, it was awesome. The 3 battle scenes going at once, the reveal of Luke and Leia being siblings (and not putting remembering that they kissed in earlier films), Vader saving Luke....

Looking back, sure the Ewoks being a main reason for the empire losing makes no sense, but overall its still fun.

My ranking:

V

IV

VI & III

II

I
This is my exact order as well.

 
I don't think there is anymore love for the Wookies than the Ewoks.For most people the Wookie battle in 3 was slightly more believable because of the weapons and the physical size of the Wookies.

Of memory serves, Lucas originally intended for the Endor battle to be with Wookies instead of the Ewoks.
I respectfully disagree. I hear a lot of hate about the Ewoks. I've never heard anything about Chewy. In fact, people love Chewy. :shrug:

 
anyone who ranks VI and III equal is insane

III is a much much much better movie, everything epople claim to hate about I is amplified in VI

 
Wookies are massive, use lasers and spaceships. Despite the limitations in practical special effects in 1979 when Wookies were first introduced they still came across as plausible bad ###es.

Ewoks OTOH come off as better suited to sell me fabric softener.

 
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I don't think there is anymore love for the Wookies than the Ewoks.For most people the Wookie battle in 3 was slightly more believable because of the weapons and the physical size of the Wookies.

Of memory serves, Lucas originally intended for the Endor battle to be with Wookies instead of the Ewoks.
I respectfully disagree. I hear a lot of hate about the Ewoks. I've never heard anything about Chewy. In fact, people love Chewy. :shrug:
i loved the Jedi and the Ewoks, but if you look at ewoks with the non-nostalgic critical eye that people use on Ep I-III you'll see they were horrendous.

I prefer to look at all 6 movies through nostalgic eyes and enjoy them all

 
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i am going to love the new movie, i'll predict in the theaters people love it, but afterwards they will hate it

 
I don't think there is anymore love for the Wookies than the Ewoks.

For most people the Wookie battle in 3 was slightly more believable because of the weapons and the physical size of the Wookies.

Of memory serves, Lucas originally intended for the Endor battle to be with Wookies instead of the Ewoks.
I respectfully disagree. I hear a lot of hate about the Ewoks. I've never heard anything about Chewy. In fact, people love Chewy. :shrug:
I think we are talking about two different things. Character vs group.

Chewy is a character that is greatly loved.

The wookies as a whole in episode 3 are not talked about in that way by fans in my experience.

I think some people like Wicket as a general character but did not like the Ewoks as a group.

 
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Wookies are massive, use lasers and spaceships. Despite the limitations in practical special effects in 1979 when Wookies were first introduced they still came across as plausible bad ###es.

Ewoks OTOH come off as better suited to sell me fabric softener.
Ewoks are like midget Wookies. Seems like you may have a problem with midgets.

 
I don't think there is anymore love for the Wookies than the Ewoks.For most people the Wookie battle in 3 was slightly more believable because of the weapons and the physical size of the Wookies.

Of memory serves, Lucas originally intended for the Endor battle to be with Wookies instead of the Ewoks.
I respectfully disagree. I hear a lot of hate about the Ewoks. I've never heard anything about Chewy. In fact, people love Chewy. :shrug:
i loved the JEdi and the Ewoks, but if you look at ewoks with the non nostalgic critical eye that people use on Ep I-III you'll see they were horrendous.

I prefer to look at all 6 movies through nostalgic eyes and enjoy them all
I agree. I love them all, too.

 
anyone who ranks VI and III equal is insane

III is a much much much better movie, everything epople claim to hate about I is amplified in VI
I don't think there is anymore love for the Wookies than the Ewoks.For most people the Wookie battle in 3 was slightly more believable because of the weapons and the physical size of the Wookies.

Of memory serves, Lucas originally intended for the Endor battle to be with Wookies instead of the Ewoks.
I respectfully disagree. I hear a lot of hate about the Ewoks. I've never heard anything about Chewy. In fact, people love Chewy. :shrug:
i loved the JEdi and the Ewoks, but if you look at ewoks with the non nostalgic critical eye that people use on Ep I-III you'll see they were horrendous.

I prefer to look at all 6 movies through nostalgic eyes and enjoy them all
The nostalgia is why I rank VI and III as the same.

And I too "prefer to look at all 6 movies through nostalgic eyes and enjoy them all", I dont hate I, II, III as much as others seem to.

 
I saw E1 in a theatre and people cheered, there was a standing ovation!

In that moment the love of star wars surrounded us like the force! later being critical became popular.

I hope people let their guards down and let the love surround them and just embrace this new movie.

 
Wookies are massive, use lasers and spaceships. Despite the limitations in practical special effects in 1979 when Wookies were first introduced they still came across as plausible bad ###es.

Ewoks OTOH come off as better suited to sell me fabric softener.
I believe it was Lucas's intention to have wookies be in place of ewoks for return of the jedi, not sure why he went against that.

 
Wookies are massive, use lasers and spaceships. Despite the limitations in practical special effects in 1979 when Wookies were first introduced they still came across as plausible bad ###es.

Ewoks OTOH come off as better suited to sell me fabric softener.
I believe it was Lucas's intention to have wookies be in place of ewoks for return of the jedi, not sure why he went against that.
Toys

To draw children in

in essence ewoks were jar jar before jar jar

 
In the end, I think what killed the prequels was the complexity of them. Whether the complexity made sense (it didn't) or not was irrelevant. The original movies were so simple.

A New Hope is a pretty basic storyline. Big bad Empire with huge weapon destroys planet and is about to completely take over the universe thanks to their evil bad guy in a dark mask with the Force and a great voice. Underdogs steal plans, young whiny kid learns the force and grabs some great characters and destroys the huge weapon by exploiting the one flaw it has. (as an aside, the Amidala/Anakin love scenes are horrible in Episode 2, but the whining Luke scenes at the start of Episode 4 are easily just as bad. I can hardly watch Luke at the start of Episode 4, he's super annoying and over-the-top.)

So hopefully the new storylines are not complex. They are easy, simple stories of good vs bad, with great characters, in a universe that we all love. That's all we need. I'm not looking for political drama and intrigue here. No need to blow us away with an amazing plot. Give me a great bad guy, put our heros in extreme danger, and then watch as they use the force and save the day. That's all we need.

 
I saw E1 in a theatre and people cheered, there was a standing ovation!

In that moment the love of star wars surrounded us like the force! later being critical became popular.

I hope people let their guards down and let the love surround them and just embrace this new movie.
They cheered because they love Star Wars. I think one reason people became more critical over time is that you just can't re-watch those movies. I get no enjoyment out of re-watching I and II. Too many plotlines that I find extremely boring, too much un-needed complexity, and not enough "Star Wars". The Originals had a bad guy and a good guy. The prequels didn't really have a bad guy, as the Emperor was in the background the whole time, Anakin was still good until the very end of III, and Darth maul, as good as he was, died in Episode I and was heavily under-used.

Had they cut out all the political drama, had Darth Maul in all 3 prequels (only to be killed by Anakin in E3), and cut out some of the cheesy drama, the prequels would have been much better.

 
I saw E1 in a theatre and people cheered, there was a standing ovation!

In that moment the love of star wars surrounded us like the force! later being critical became popular.

I hope people let their guards down and let the love surround them and just embrace this new movie.
They cheered because they love Star Wars. I think one reason people became more critical over time is that you just can't re-watch those movies. I get no enjoyment out of re-watching I and II. Too many plotlines that I find extremely boring, too much un-needed complexity, and not enough "Star Wars". The Originals had a bad guy and a good guy. The prequels didn't really have a bad guy, as the Emperor was in the background the whole time, Anakin was still good until the very end of III, and Darth maul, as good as he was, died in Episode I and was heavily under-used.

Had they cut out all the political drama, had Darth Maul in all 3 prequels (only to be killed by Anakin in E3), and cut out some of the cheesy drama, the prequels would have been much better.
I liked the political drama. It set up the movies as to how the Empire came about.

 
If a 7'5" Wookie hit a stormtrooper in the head with a club (or a rock) does anyone doubt the stormtrooper would die? If 1,000 Wookies came charging out of the forest screaming their heads off I am pretty sure most stormtroopers would die from ####ing their pants out of fear.

The principle problem with Ewoks is that they formed the backbone of the land forces that defeated the Empire, which is an entirely laughable premise. Without the forgiving sepia toned lens of nostalgia they are every bit as ridiculous as Jar Jar Binks and the Gungans.

 
I saw E1 in a theatre and people cheered, there was a standing ovation!

In that moment the love of star wars surrounded us like the force! later being critical became popular.

I hope people let their guards down and let the love surround them and just embrace this new movie.
They cheered because they love Star Wars. I think one reason people became more critical over time is that you just can't re-watch those movies. I get no enjoyment out of re-watching I and II. Too many plotlines that I find extremely boring, too much un-needed complexity, and not enough "Star Wars". The Originals had a bad guy and a good guy. The prequels didn't really have a bad guy, as the Emperor was in the background the whole time, Anakin was still good until the very end of III, and Darth maul, as good as he was, died in Episode I and was heavily under-used.

Had they cut out all the political drama, had Darth Maul in all 3 prequels (only to be killed by Anakin in E3), and cut out some of the cheesy drama, the prequels would have been much better.
I liked the political drama. It set up the movies as to how the Empire came about.
Agreed. Thought that was the best part of the first two prequels.

 
Wookies are massive, use lasers and spaceships. Despite the limitations in practical special effects in 1979 when Wookies were first introduced they still came across as plausible bad ###es.

Ewoks OTOH come off as better suited to sell me fabric softener.
Ewoks are like midget Wookies. Seems like you may have a problem with midgets.
The preferred nomenclature is Little Furry People, Sheik.

 
I don't think there is anymore love for the Wookies than the Ewoks.For most people the Wookie battle in 3 was slightly more believable because of the weapons and the physical size of the Wookies.

Of memory serves, Lucas originally intended for the Endor battle to be with Wookies instead of the Ewoks.
I respectfully disagree. I hear a lot of hate about the Ewoks. I've never heard anything about Chewy. In fact, people love Chewy. :shrug:
That's because Ewoks won't rip your arms out of their sockets if they lose.

 
anyone who ranks VI and III equal is insane

III is a much much much better movie, everything epople claim to hate about I is amplified in VI
:lol: WTF? The Obi-Wan/Anakin duel in III can't even come close to the emotion and drama when Luke and Vader hook it up in VI, and they barely even fight. Nothing else in III is even worth mentioning.

 

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