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Futility
Footballguy
A few years ago I remember reading a thread that broke down Tennessee's injury list history. IIRC, the conclusion was that Jeff Fisher lists a higher percentage of players as "Questionable" than the average team and those players play well under 50% of the time (the supposed percentage that Questionable is supposed to mean).
The lesson was that a "Questionable" Tennessee player was much more likely to sit out than play.
The lesson was that a "Questionable" Tennessee player was much more likely to sit out than play.
bakes
I am the Beer God!
This has already been discussed - his road stats consist of two games without his top target. Shows nothing.Starting Garrard (and Sims-Walker) this week with confidence.
Rovers
Footballguy
If a QB's road success soley depends on a rookie WR... so say you. I say he's going to bust. Under 200 yards, if he's lucky, one TD.This has already been discussed - his road stats consist of two games without his top target. Shows nothing.Starting Garrard (and Sims-Walker) this week with confidence.
Mr. Brownstone
Footballguy
What rookie WR are you referring to?If a QB's road success soley depends on a rookie WR... so say you. I say he's going to bust. Under 200 yards, if he's lucky, one TD.This has already been discussed - his road stats consist of two games without his top target. Shows nothing.Starting Garrard (and Sims-Walker) this week with confidence.
strong
Footballguy
i have to start garrard this week bc of byes.
i had sims-walker in the lineup all week over andre johnson, but just put johnson back in because i don't want too many eggs in one jaguars basket on the road, even if it is against the titans... this way, if garrard has a good game, i'm happy and if he doesn't toss any touchdowns, i don't get burned at two positions...
it may be a defensive play, but i think a decent one with AJ.
i had sims-walker in the lineup all week over andre johnson, but just put johnson back in because i don't want too many eggs in one jaguars basket on the road, even if it is against the titans... this way, if garrard has a good game, i'm happy and if he doesn't toss any touchdowns, i don't get burned at two positions...
it may be a defensive play, but i think a decent one with AJ.
Johnny Ice
Footballguy
I've had this same feeling all week. Been going back and forth with Garrard and Flacco.
bleachercreacher
Footballguy
Starting him over Hasselbeck. I've been going back and fourth, but I finally think I decided on Garrard.
Did Sims Walker outscore Garrard in your league the last time they played the Titans?Andre makes me nervous this week as his lung contusion went from big deal to minimal so fast and Andre Davis has been an outstanding backup when put in (the other) Andre's role.strong said:
GridironMenace
Footballguy
This is a very easy decision. Flacco. Flacco has been one of the best QB's in the league this year. He is an automatic start every week when your other choice is Garrard.Johnny Ice said:I've had this same feeling all week. Been going back and forth with Garrard and Flacco.Rovers said:
Mr. Brownstone
Footballguy
Hipple Long Ware & Peete
Footballguy
Garrard over schaub and e. manning. Tennesee's pass defense has been nothing short of horrible. Hell they made Santonio look all world.JoeTall said:
strong
Footballguy
they both had 16--but 16 from a receiver is much less frequent than 16 from a qbif i didn't have to start gaddard this week, then sims-walker would probably be in my lineup. i know many ffers think you should start you highest rated players each week, but i try to avoid starting multiple players with the same team on the road. if they connect for two touchdowns today, i'll at least get some decent points from my qb plus AJ.
Grahamburn
Footballguy
Garrard, Holt, and MSW are in my lineup today. Let's go Jags. 
Mr. Retukes
Footballguy
I'm also on the fence between Flacco and Garrard. Garrard plays the #32 fantasy defense vs. quarterbacks (27.2 ppg). Flacco plays the #2 fantasy defense vs. QBs (8.8 ppg).Flacco averages 17.3 ppg. Garrard averages 14.8 ppg.It's very hard to ignore those numbers. The difference between Flacco and Garrard is only 2.5 points per game. But the difference between their defensive opponents is 18.4 ppg!!Garrard's road stats are pretty brutal.....but......but.......it's not like Tennessee is going to have a sold-out stadium of rabid fans today. Last year Garrard put up 215/2/1 at Tennessee. Before that he put up 233/3/1 at Tennessee.Anyway, here's how I broke it down:- Garrard scores 40% fewer points when on the road- the Titans allow quarterbacks to score TWICE as many points as average- therefore, I would expect Garrard to score about 20-22 points today- Flacco scores about the same amount of points at home as on the road- the Broncos defense only allows QBs to score about 70% of their average score- therefore, I would expect Flacco to score about 12-14 points todayThen again, I didn't calculate each defense's home/road splits......so maybe the Titans don't allow as many fantasy points when playing at home??? And maybe the Broncos D is terrible on the road? Either way, I'm going with Garrard today.edit: the Titans actually allow about 5% more fantasy points when playing at home vs. playing on the road, while the Broncos are 23% worse on the road. So, maybe bump Flacco to 16 points.This is a very easy decision. Flacco. Flacco has been one of the best QB's in the league this year. He is an automatic start every week when your other choice is Garrard.Johnny Ice said:I've had this same feeling all week. Been going back and forth with Garrard and Flacco.Rovers said:
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Church of Iggy Pop
Footballguy
After waffling all week, I'm going with Garrard over Ryan.
That means I'm starting Garrard in three of my four leagues. ( Usual starters Brady, Big Ben, Palmer all on bye!)
In the end, the Titans pass defense is just too bad to pass up.
That means I'm starting Garrard in three of my four leagues. ( Usual starters Brady, Big Ben, Palmer all on bye!)
In the end, the Titans pass defense is just too bad to pass up.
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Godsbrother
Footballguy
I am sad I started Garrard
bcr8f
Footballguy
Is he still negative points?I am sad I started Garrard
Sarnoff
Footballguy
smackdaddies
Footballguy
With Brady out, it was him or no one.
Should of started Brady - would of been better for my team
Should of started Brady - would of been better for my team
VaTerp
Footballguy
Same situation here.Started Garrard along with Slaton and Owen Daniels.
For some of the staff, it takes FOREVER for them to stop ranking guys so high. They stay with there guys forever. I don't blame them for anything, since I make my own decisions, but there rankings each week are worthless. They don't consider what guys have done this year. There rankings are one of the worst on the internet. If they pimp guys from the beginning of the year, they stick with them too long. It's week 8, guys are what they are. you would think they would adjust. Looking at other sites next year. I believe I am wasting my $25 on this site. They spend too much time on articles and other stuff that is completely worthless.Again, I make my own decisions so I could care less what rankings they have, but I do look at them out of curiousity. There rankings suck.stlrams said:
Mr. Fusion
Footballguy
Now I'm debating dropping Garrard to pick up a 2nd kicker or dropping Longwell for a kicker that has already had his bye.
LittlePhatty
Footballguy
I should have listened to that little Admiral Ackbar voice inside my head.
spacevan
Footballguy
This thread needs to be deleted. I don't want to see another thing on this guy. Every time I listen to a consensus in this place I get hammered.
Garrard is going to have a huge week!!!
Arizona defense is the Defense to target this week!!!!
This thread is a cancer and needs to be burned!!
Garrard is going to have a huge week!!!
Arizona defense is the Defense to target this week!!!!
This thread is a cancer and needs to be burned!!
Rovers
Footballguy
I started a thread several weeks ago about how FBG had Garrard seriously over ranked. Naturally, some trolls came out and went on the attack. Nuthin new there. The guy is simply one of the worst QB's in the NFL on the road. I said in this thread he would not throw for 200 yards. Why FBG is so in love with guy is beyond me. Having said that, it's silly to condemn the site for it's love affair with Garrard. In general, the site is excellent. It does pay to be familiar with Mr. Dodds' biases, but that is not an uncommon trait when it comes to FF projections, including my own.
Worst on the internet??? This is a complete overreaction. I agree with your sentiment concerning Garrard but one bad prediction doesn't taint the whole value of their predictions and FBG's isn't the only quality prediction site that was gung ho on Garrard this week. If you want to see how FBG's is doing this year compared to the other prediction sites then check out this link and you'll find that they are one of the most accurate sites this year for FF predicitions. Don't sour on everything just because FBG's was off on Garrard.
http://www.fftoday.com/articles/nestrick/09_ate_wk7.htm
GridironMenace
Footballguy
How did that turn out for you? Talent always wins out. Garrard is just too flaky and inconsistent to be a weekly starter, no matter what the FBG guys tell you.Mr. Retukes said:I'm also on the fence between Flacco and Garrard. Garrard plays the #32 fantasy defense vs. quarterbacks (27.2 ppg). Flacco plays the #2 fantasy defense vs. QBs (8.8 ppg).Flacco averages 17.3 ppg. Garrard averages 14.8 ppg.It's very hard to ignore those numbers. The difference between Flacco and Garrard is only 2.5 points per game. But the difference between their defensive opponents is 18.4 ppg!!Garrard's road stats are pretty brutal.....but......but.......it's not like Tennessee is going to have a sold-out stadium of rabid fans today. Last year Garrard put up 215/2/1 at Tennessee. Before that he put up 233/3/1 at Tennessee.Anyway, here's how I broke it down:- Garrard scores 40% fewer points when on the road- the Titans allow quarterbacks to score TWICE as many points as average- therefore, I would expect Garrard to score about 20-22 points today- Flacco scores about the same amount of points at home as on the road- the Broncos defense only allows QBs to score about 70% of their average score- therefore, I would expect Flacco to score about 12-14 points todayThen again, I didn't calculate each defense's home/road splits......so maybe the Titans don't allow as many fantasy points when playing at home??? And maybe the Broncos D is terrible on the road? Either way, I'm going with Garrard today.edit: the Titans actually allow about 5% more fantasy points when playing at home vs. playing on the road, while the Broncos are 23% worse on the road. So, maybe bump Flacco to 16 points.This is a very easy decision. Flacco. Flacco has been one of the best QB's in the league this year. He is an automatic start every week when your other choice is Garrard.Johnny Ice said:I've had this same feeling all week. Been going back and forth with Garrard and Flacco.Rovers said:
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Ministry of Pain
Footballguy
Why would anyone not think Garrard was a slam dunk this week? Tennessee is the worst pass defense in the league and they have young inexperienced DBs right now due to osme serious injuries...you would have to assume Garrard was a good match maybe even a great match up this week. Isn't Jax 3-3 prior to the loss this week? Do they have no backbone? They answered that today.
Blame FBG all you want but Garrard was a strong play as was MSW, the problem is the actual pieces are not great NFL players. If Garrard were Peyton manning we wouldn't have this conversation but he isn't, in fact he likely isn't in the top half of NFL QBs right now.
Blame FBG all you want but Garrard was a strong play as was MSW, the problem is the actual pieces are not great NFL players. If Garrard were Peyton manning we wouldn't have this conversation but he isn't, in fact he likely isn't in the top half of NFL QBs right now.
Rovers
Footballguy
Read the thread. Garrard absolutely does nothing on the road. Garrard was an awful play today. I said it here, and in another two page thread. In this thread I said he'd be under 200 yards... check... and LUCKY to have a TD. He wasn't that lucky. He was a bad play, and it was an easy projection to make, despite the TN pass D. The ONLY thing I assumed was that Garrard is horrible on the road. That was reason enough to make him a bench ranking. FBG has over ranked the guy from predraft to week 8. I can understand why some could be torqued off based on FBG rankings. Bottom line... one has to rank players themselves. Blaming a site for a bad miss is weak. FBG continues to be the best FF site on the net. They just have blinders on when it comes to Garrard.
Mr. Retukes
Footballguy
That's a very dangerous philosophy. Garrard outscored Flacco in 3 out of 7 weeks this season, so it's not like talent "always" won out between them.
GridironMenace
Footballguy
BS. Flacco has 13 TD passes on the season (at least 1 in each game). In addition he has almost 1700 yards passing to boot. Garrard has a measley 5 TD passes and they all came in 2 games (against ARZ and TENN (2 terrible pass D's)). Therefore Garrard has 5 games in which he didn't throw a TD and has only thrown for a little over 1400 yards.Please. Flacco>>>>>>>>Garrard.
*********** Also, the only reason FBG keeps pumping Garrard is because the 'Perfect Draft" article named Garrard as the best QB to grab. That philosophy is wrong and they are having a tough time admitting it.
GridironMenace
Footballguy
In addition, you can't just take the fact that Garrard may have outscored Flacco by 3 points in one of his 2 good weeks and then ignore the fact that Flacco outscored Garrard by 10-20 in all the others. Consistency wins fantasy football and Garrard just doesn't have it.
