Didn't read the entire thread so I don't know if this is a honda. but what was the context of the quote? This sounds like he was talking about the preseason games. No way he was talking about the regular season....On April 28, 2007, Leonard was selected by the St. Louis Rams in the second round with the 52nd overall pick of the 2007 NFL Draft. Coach Scott Linehan has decided to use Leonard as a fullback, running back, and a special third-down back, which will give Steven Jackson a break. Linehan has also stated that Leonard will receive 15-20 touches per game. So far in rookie training camps, Leonard has been only one of two running backs, the other being Brad Lau. “We only have two backs right now so I am running in single back and halfback so I will be the running back unless we get another running back in here,” Leonard said. “It’s nice to get the reps, but it is tiring.” Brian Leonard ran for the Rams first touchdown of the year against the Minnesota Vikings in preseason on August 10, 2007.[4]
I live in St. Louis. I heard this too....He said something about it being sad that Faulk wouldn't be around long enough to be at the HOF ceremony when he gets voted in 5 years from now. Very sad story....Who's going to take care of those 7 kids he had with 6 different women? I think we need to start a Faulk kids college fund....Linehan was just on local radio.Talked about making Leonard the starter.Also discussed Marshall Faulk's ball cancer.
New acronym:RBBR "running back by rookie".Rookie Running Back!! Not concerned...
Finally, aI'm thinking 100 touchesI do think the occasional handoff to the FB each game will help a little and 3rd down chores should be the bulk of his touches. Last year Steven took some wicked hits and almost always stayed in the game, might not be bad idea to get him out for a play after some of those.I think Linehan is saying the sum of above=him being used alot and on the field alot and it just got carried away.Leonard is a very useful player and I do think he'll annoy Jackson FF owners this year but mixing it up and keeping a guy fresh is different from RBBC
Oh, I'm sorry, I didn't realize the coach actually said that he'd get 15 touches a game. It must be true then.Linehan has gone on record saying Leonard will get 15 touches a game - something has to giveThey're going to ride Jackson like a Hummer. Nothing to see here.
TheFanatic said:I live in St. Louis. I heard this too....He said something about it being sad that Faulk wouldn't be around long enough to be at the HOF ceremony when he gets voted in 5 years from now. Very sad story....Who's going to take care of those 7 kids he had with 6 different women? I think we need to start a Faulk kids college fund....RAIDERNATION said:Linehan was just on local radio.Talked about making Leonard the starter.Also discussed Marshall Faulk's ball cancer.
He has much more talent than most backup RBs. So much so that Linehan was raving about him BEFORE the preseason game. This is not just a premature response to one preseason outing. Remember, just because he might see 10-15 touches, doesn't necessarily mean he will be taking away from SJAX. They mentioned him lining up at various positions on top of his backup duties. Certainly not RBBC, but I am pretty confident you will see both of them on the field at the same time fairly regularly. And believe it or not, some of those plays will be designed for Leonard.North said:This happens every year. 1st preseason game and the rookie does well, all the sudden he is going to take away from the starter? If Jackson would have played last night to the extent of Leonard he would have put up 100+ yds and you would all be saying he is going to break the single season record. So now I'm gonna go out and move Jackson down in my rankings to b/c some dumb (thats right, I said dumb) coach shoots his mouth off to the media. It was Lanny that didn't give |SJAX the ball that much the 1st half of the season last year and look what happened. 2nd half offensive coordinator starts calling the plays and what happens? Jackson gets the touches he needs to become effective in the offense, the Rams win and |SJAX puts up MONSTER numbers!Leonard looks like he has talent but no more then any other backup in the NFL. He has played 1 game against a weak Minn D and did O.K. He may cut into SJAX carries a bit, but to think St. Louis will move to a RBBC because of 2 weeks of training camp and 1 preseason game against Minn is crazy talk!
Doesn't 10-15 touches seem wildly high considering this offense boasts Jackson, Holt, Bruce, Bennett, and McMichael? Why plan to give a rookie all these touches at the expense of one the league's best 3 backs, one of the league's top 5 WRs, a potential future HOFer, and 2 proven veterans?He has much more talent than most backup RBs. So much so that Linehan was raving about him BEFORE the preseason game. This is not just a premature response to one preseason outing. Remember, just because he might see 10-15 touches, doesn't necessarily mean he will be taking away from SJAX. They mentioned him lining up at various positions on top of his backup duties.North said:This happens every year. 1st preseason game and the rookie does well, all the sudden he is going to take away from the starter? If Jackson would have played last night to the extent of Leonard he would have put up 100+ yds and you would all be saying he is going to break the single season record. So now I'm gonna go out and move Jackson down in my rankings to b/c some dumb (thats right, I said dumb) coach shoots his mouth off to the media. It was Lanny that didn't give |SJAX the ball that much the 1st half of the season last year and look what happened. 2nd half offensive coordinator starts calling the plays and what happens? Jackson gets the touches he needs to become effective in the offense, the Rams win and |SJAX puts up MONSTER numbers!Leonard looks like he has talent but no more then any other backup in the NFL. He has played 1 game against a weak Minn D and did O.K. He may cut into SJAX carries a bit, but to think St. Louis will move to a RBBC because of 2 weeks of training camp and 1 preseason game against Minn is crazy talk!
I think 15 touches is "wildly high", but 10 is not out of the question. The fact that Linehan even mentioned those numbers should speak volumes about the kind of player that Leonard is.Doesn't 10-15 touches seem wildly high considering this offense boasts Jackson, Holt, Bruce, Bennett, and McMichael? Why plan to give a rookie all these touches at the expense of one the league's best 3 backs, one of the league's top 5 WRs, a potential future HOFer, and 2 proven veterans?
I can see him (Leonard) getting 10-15 maybe.That would give him 160- 240 touches over the course of a year. St Louis last year got the ball to all their running back's 620 times, Any back (according to NFL.com) not named S. Jackson touched the ball a total of 184 times last year or 11.5 times a game.
Yeah. I'm hoping maybe it's people's insistance on believing whatever a coach says. I know, I'm a dreamer.Linehan has gone on record saying Leonard will get 15 touches a game - something has to give
There is no basis for saying he has more talent than most backup RBs. He is a rookie that was JUST drafted behind several other RBs who are not considered "better than most backup RBs" a couple months ago.So Linehan said good things about him before the first preseason game? Are you kidding me? Where have you been the last 10 years? By now Koren Robinson and Bobby Wade should be future hall of famers based on what coaches have said about them in training camp, and that's only the absolute minimal beginning of this list.Go back and read through some training camp quotes from coaches through the years. You will find dozens upon dozens of 2nd-7th round draft picks that coaches "raved" about and never once made an impact in an NFL game.I'm not saying that Leonard will be one of these guys or that he will not be used, but seriously to base anything on "the coach raving about him before preseason" is just about as rookie as it gets in FF.He has much more talent than most backup RBs. So much so that Linehan was raving about him BEFORE the preseason game. This is not just a premature response to one preseason outing. Remember, just because he might see 10-15 touches, doesn't necessarily mean he will be taking away from SJAX. They mentioned him lining up at various positions on top of his backup duties. Certainly not RBBC, but I am pretty confident you will see both of them on the field at the same time fairly regularly. And believe it or not, some of those plays will be designed for Leonard.
I'm pretty sure you're not getting the inside joke hereriding Jackson like a Hummer with 3.00 a gallon gas, short trips (goal line) could end up going to the VW(Leonard). At the least if you draft Jackson, Leonard should be drafted to back him up IMO.They're going to ride Jackson like a Hummer. Nothing to see here.
did I miss something? Bryan Lenard = white?Steven Jackson was on CBS Sportsline's Fantasy Show today. He's in a charity ff league with other players and drafted himself.They didn't ask him about TDs but he did acknowledge he'd probably get less receptions. I'm just sharing -- I'm not worried! -- and I'm not drafting Leonard)
I took him yesterday in the 19th roundI wish I had Leonard in a league or two so I could sell him high based on the hype.![]()
He'll look good riding your pine.I took him yesterday in the 19th roundI wish I had Leonard in a league or two so I could sell him high based on the hype.![]()
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So you start your 19th round pick? Hes only a S. Jackson injury away from being a productive fantasy RB.He'll look good riding your pine.I took him yesterday in the 19th roundI wish I had Leonard in a league or two so I could sell him high based on the hype.![]()
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you pick up Kenny Irons like we talked about?he's not only going to be the starter in Cincinnati.. i like him for the HoF next season.I took him yesterday in the 19th roundI wish I had Leonard in a league or two so I could sell him high based on the hype.![]()
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No but I tried to pimp him to others.you pick up Kenny Irons like we talked about?he's not only going to be the starter in Cincinnati.. i like him for the HoF next season.I took him yesterday in the 19th roundI wish I had Leonard in a league or two so I could sell him high based on the hype.![]()
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I'm yanking his chain because I drafted Jackson at 1.02 in the same league RudiStein is in.So you start your 19th round pick? Hes only a S. Jackson injury away from being a productive fantasy RB.He'll look good riding your pine.I took him yesterday in the 19th roundI wish I had Leonard in a league or two so I could sell him high based on the hype.![]()
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From the St Louis Dispatch - "The 6-foot-2, 231-pound Jackson was particularly proud of his 436 carries and catches combined. Only Kansas City's Larry Johnson had more, with 457. The Rams, however, would like to lessen Jackson's workload a bit, which is partly why they drafted Rutgers running back Brian Leonard in the second round this year."Draft Jackson in the top 5, but he had an extraordinary amount of carries last season. Since Jackson is an investment for the Rams it would make sense for both the Rams and S. Jackson to lighten the workload just a bit. If, and thats if Leonard can help out by taking touches(not all carries) and keep Jackson fresher for a potential playoff run then the idea of getting Leonard 15 "touches" a game just make sense. Too many folks here get hyperventalted(including me) when anyone dare suggest the stud they own or covet is threatend with news or speculation like this. The idea that Jackson is a lock to be a top ten, top five or the top back this year is hardly a fargone conclusion. Scheduals, injuries to the RB or O-Line, hell even to the QB can drastically effect a players performance from year to year.On April 28, 2007, Leonard was selected by the St. Louis Rams in the second round with the 52nd overall pick of the 2007 NFL Draft. Coach Scott Linehan has decided to use Leonard as a fullback, running back, and a special third-down back, which will give Steven Jackson a break. Linehan has also stated that Leonard will receive 15-20 touches per game. So far in rookie training camps, Leonard has been only one of two running backs, the other being Brad Lau. “We only have two backs right now so I am running in single back and halfback so I will be the running back unless we get another running back in here,” Leonard said. “It’s nice to get the reps, but it is tiring.” Brian Leonard ran for the Rams first touchdown of the year against the Minnesota Vikings in preseason on August 10, 2007.[4]
There is a basis for my statement. Again, I'm basing his talent on 4 years of watching him play. I suggest you actually watch him, before you comment on him. He was drafted behind several other RBs because teams projected him as a FB. Simple as that. Many of those RBs didn't have anywhere near the college career that Leonard had. Not that thats a guarantee of success.There is no basis for saying he has more talent than most backup RBs. He is a rookie that was JUST drafted behind several other RBs who are not considered "better than most backup RBs" a couple months ago.So Linehan said good things about him before the first preseason game? Are you kidding me? Where have you been the last 10 years? By now Koren Robinson and Bobby Wade should be future hall of famers based on what coaches have said about them in training camp, and that's only the absolute minimal beginning of this list.Go back and read through some training camp quotes from coaches through the years. You will find dozens upon dozens of 2nd-7th round draft picks that coaches "raved" about and never once made an impact in an NFL game.I'm not saying that Leonard will be one of these guys or that he will not be used, but seriously to base anything on "the coach raving about him before preseason" is just about as rookie as it gets in FF.
On April 28, 2007, Leonard was selected by the St. Louis Rams in the second round with the 52nd overall pick of the 2007 NFL Draft. Coach Scott Linehan has decided to use Leonard as a fullback, running back, and a special third-down back, which will give Steven Jackson a break. Linehan has also stated that Leonard will receive 15-20 touches per game. So far in rookie training camps, Leonard has been only one of two running backs, the other being Brad Lau. “We only have two backs right now so I am running in single back and halfback so I will be the running back unless we get another running back in here,” Leonard said. “It’s nice to get the reps, but it is tiring.” Brian Leonard ran for the Rams first touchdown of the year against the Minnesota Vikings in preseason on August 10, 2007.[4]
This is kind of a ridiculous post. Linehan said 15-20 SNAPS, not touches. Here the quote:"We're open to wherever that takes us," Linehan said. "As a rookie, he's certainly going to be a big contributor on special teams. And he's going to have a big role in situations that require a big back with size. But he also has the ability to run and has the ability to catch."guys, scott linehan has already gone on record saying this. I really don't think he'd lie.
####I'll take the under on Leonard's touches.