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Just a friendly reminder that tomorrow is quad witching meaning a bunch of options expire tomorrow. Given the lack of volatility this week and summer months, I’d assume it’s going to be a non-event. I’m not going to trade it but I’d probably fade most moves either way since it seems like market makers are probably hedged at this point. 
 

I’ve read some stuff that next week could get interesting given the volume of expiry this week and a lot of it wasn’t being rolled over. But who knows. 

 
what should we expect from a share price perspective?
Good question.  The offer price should be below the closing price of $40.84.  I will post in here once I hear what it is.  I expect the offer price to be around $39, just a guess.  My firm analysts do not currently cover DKNG so we don't have a price target or rating on it.  Frustrating for me because it means I haven't been able to recommend it to my clients.  I am hoping that since we are part of the offering we start coverage on it.

 
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Up 13 cents on the day.  I get a sense that the move up is about to start.  I feel some momentum building on this thing.  They cannot uplist quick enough.
I agree. It does feel like that it’s making a base at this 3.10+ spot now and hopefully it’s ready to take off. As chet posted in the CV thread the results of the trials is probably coming mid July and probably similar for uplisting news. 

 
steelerfan1 said:
anyone have any thoughts at WMT at around $118? Looking long-term.
I like WMT however I feel it is fair value right now. I would be waiting for a sell off on this stock (they do happen....trust me). Also I really like TGT more than WMT long term as a growing dividend and a little more growth to make it a growth and income play (Plus we shop at TGT 99% more than WMT....just our preference). TGT is also.....fair value right now. These stocks are to be bought on bad news pull backs. Wait for a crappy day on either of these. I am talking a 5%-7% down day for a WMT and a 7%-10% down day for a TGT.

IT is always important what you buy.....no question. But what price you pay is also a big factor. I am a value type guy....I hate paying premiums for stocks. Especially low yield and slow growers. You just gotta catch certain stocks on days when investors **** on them. 

It will happen to these two. Always does to all stocks. Even the heavyweights like AAPL and AMZN, GOOGL etc.  

 
Good question.  The offer price should be below the closing price of $40.84.  I will post in here once I hear what it is.  I expect the offer price to be around $39, just a guess.  My firm analysts do not currently cover DKNG so we don't have a price target or rating on it.  Frustrating for me because it means I haven't been able to recommend it to my clients.  I am hoping that since we are part of the offering we start coverage on it.
DKNG offering priced at $40.  Stock up to $41.70 after hours.

 
Time to start thinking about going long on oil?  Even if just for the short term? Total gamble, but I'm thinking about taking a small position in NRGU - 3x ETF that follows the US Oil and Gas Industry. Check out the sweet 1 year chart. Of course "going long" and "3x leveraged ETF with built-in decay" are at odds with each other, I'm thinking maybe hold for a month or two - get an easy double.

I think NRGU can be as good as crack. Until it's not anymore.

https://www.cnn.com/2020/06/18/investing/oil-price-spike-jpmorgan/index.html

$190 oil sounds crazy. But JPMorgan thinks it's possible, even after the pandemic

By Matt Egan, CNN Business

Updated 8:33 PM ET, Thu June 18, 2020

New York (CNN Business)In a little-noticed report, JPMorgan Chase warned in early March that the oil market could be on the cusp of a "supercycle" that sends Brent crude skyrocketing as high as $190 a barrel in 2025.

Weeks later, the coronavirus pandemic set off an epic collapse in oil prices as demand imploded. And yet the bank is doubling down on its bullish view.

Brent hit a two-decade low of $15.98 a barrel in April. US crude crashed below zero for the first time ever, bottoming at negative $40 a barrel.

The United States, Russia and Saudi Arabia — the three largest producers — have dramatically slashed production in response. The massive supply cuts helped breathe life back into oil prices.

Oil is up $80 in seven weeks. The remarkable recovery could be too good to be true

Though demand remains depressed, JPMorgan still thinks a bullish oil supercycle is on the horizon. A huge amount of supply has been taken offline and the industry could have major trouble attracting future capital.

"The reality is the chances of oil going toward $100 at this point are higher than three months ago," said Christyan Malek, JPMorgan's head of Europe, Middle East and Africa oil and gas research.

Looming deficit suggests prices will 'go through the roof'

For years, the world has had more oil than it needs. That glut caused storage tanks to fill up to the point that crude turned negative in April.

So oil producers slashed supply. But now the pendulum in the boom-to-bust oil industry could swing too far in the opposite direction.

Oversupplied oil markets will flip into a "fundamental supply deficit" beginning in 2022, according to a JPMorgan report published June 12. The most likely scenario, JPMorgan said, is that Brent rises to $60 a barrel to incentivize higher output.

The report didn't spell out a price target for its bull case scenario -- yet Malek told CNN Business that JPMorgan's $190 bullish call from March still stands. In fact, he thinks it's even more likely now.

Malek, who has been bearish since 2013, pointed to the very large supply-demand deficit that's expected to emerge in 2022 and could hit 6.8 million barrels per day by 2025 -- unless OPEC and others pump much more.

"The deficit speaks for itself. That implies oil prices will go through the roof," he said. "Do we think it's sustainable? No. But could it get to those levels? Yes."

BP sounds the alarm

Of course, it's hard to imagine triple-digit crude today. Some analysts believe even the rebound in US oil from negative $40 to positive $40 in just seven weeks is overdone.

Coronavirus cases are spiking in some areas in the United States and Latin America. Demand for gasoline is improving but isn't nearly back to pre-pandemic levels. And it could take years for the airline industry to fully recover — if it ever does.

BP warns of $17.5 billion hit as pandemic accelerates move away from oil

BP (BP) warned this week that the health crisis could have an "enduring impact on the global economy," causing less demand for energy over a "sustained period." The UK oil giant slashed its forecast for Brent crude prices over the next three decades by 27% to $55 a barrel.

BP also said it plans to write down the value of its assets -- including untapped oil and gas reserves -- by up to $17.5 billion.

Somewhat counterintuitively, JPMorgan's Malek said the BP writedown and gloomy forecast are "one of the most bullish" developments he's seen.

That's because oil companies must spend heavily just to maintain production, let alone increase it. If they do nothing, output will naturally decline.

And BP's weaker outlook suggests even fewer long-term oil projects will make the cut. That in turn will keep supply low -- even as demand rises.

"It validates our point," Malek said.

Oil spending could collapse to 15-year lows

Between 2015 and 2020, more than 50 new oil projects were sanctioned globally, according to JPMorgan. But the bank estimates just five so-called "greenfield" projects will come on the line in the next five years.

And some Big Oil companies including BP, Shell (RDSB), Total (TOT) and ConocoPhillips (COP) have delayed making final investment decisions.

Global upstream investments are expected to plunge to a 15-year low of $383 billion in 2020, according to a recent Rystad Energy report.

Those spending cuts, Rystad said, will make it "more challenging to maintain existing production" and will potentially impact the "stability" of supply in the long run.

The pandemic won't fix the climate crisis. This $3 trillion recovery plan could

Of course, Saudi Arabia and Russia have the firepower to respond quickly to supply shortages. The two nations, along with the rest of OPEC, are intentionally holding back production to get rid of the supply glut.

But Saudi Arabia needs much higher oil prices to balance its massive budget, with breakeven at about $80 a barrel.

"They're not going to flood the market" for that reason, Malek said.

That could leave room for the United States to respond. US output has also dropped sharply, with the number of active drilling wells sinking to a record low, according to Baker Hughes data that goes back to 1987.

The climate change factor

Yet shale drillers can't bank on the once-unlimited stream of Wall Street funding. Investors are demanding frackers live within their means after years of burning through piles of cash.

"Shale is growing up. It's still there, but it's maturing," said Malek.

Capital is being further restrained by heightened concerns about climate change and the rise of socially responsible investing. A growing number of investors simply don't want to touch oil stocks.

The combination of the price crash, capital flight and climate change could limit the oil industry's ability to attract the necessary money -- just when it's needed the most.

The past few months have shown how difficult it is to forecast the future. While $190 crude might sound far-fetched, so did negative-$40 oil.

 
Time to start thinking about going long on oil?  Even if just for the short term? Total gamble, but I'm thinking about taking a small position in NRGU - 3x ETF that follows the US Oil and Gas Industry. Check out the sweet 1 year chart. Of course "going long" and "3x leveraged ETF with built-in decay" are at odds with each other, I'm thinking maybe hold for a month or two - get an easy double.

I think NRGU can be as good as crack. Until it's not anymore.

https://www.cnn.com/2020/06/18/investing/oil-price-spike-jpmorgan/index.html

$190 oil sounds crazy. But JPMorgan thinks it's possible, even after the pandemic

By Matt Egan, CNN Business

Updated 8:33 PM ET, Thu June 18, 2020

New York (CNN Business)In a little-noticed report, JPMorgan Chase warned in early March that the oil market could be on the cusp of a "supercycle" that sends Brent crude skyrocketing as high as $190 a barrel in 2025.

Weeks later, the coronavirus pandemic set off an epic collapse in oil prices as demand imploded. And yet the bank is doubling down on its bullish view.

Brent hit a two-decade low of $15.98 a barrel in April. US crude crashed below zero for the first time ever, bottoming at negative $40 a barrel.

The United States, Russia and Saudi Arabia — the three largest producers — have dramatically slashed production in response. The massive supply cuts helped breathe life back into oil prices.

Oil is up $80 in seven weeks. The remarkable recovery could be too good to be true

Though demand remains depressed, JPMorgan still thinks a bullish oil supercycle is on the horizon. A huge amount of supply has been taken offline and the industry could have major trouble attracting future capital.

"The reality is the chances of oil going toward $100 at this point are higher than three months ago," said Christyan Malek, JPMorgan's head of Europe, Middle East and Africa oil and gas research.

Looming deficit suggests prices will 'go through the roof'

For years, the world has had more oil than it needs. That glut caused storage tanks to fill up to the point that crude turned negative in April.

So oil producers slashed supply. But now the pendulum in the boom-to-bust oil industry could swing too far in the opposite direction.

Oversupplied oil markets will flip into a "fundamental supply deficit" beginning in 2022, according to a JPMorgan report published June 12. The most likely scenario, JPMorgan said, is that Brent rises to $60 a barrel to incentivize higher output.

The report didn't spell out a price target for its bull case scenario -- yet Malek told CNN Business that JPMorgan's $190 bullish call from March still stands. In fact, he thinks it's even more likely now.

Malek, who has been bearish since 2013, pointed to the very large supply-demand deficit that's expected to emerge in 2022 and could hit 6.8 million barrels per day by 2025 -- unless OPEC and others pump much more.

"The deficit speaks for itself. That implies oil prices will go through the roof," he said. "Do we think it's sustainable? No. But could it get to those levels? Yes."

BP sounds the alarm

Of course, it's hard to imagine triple-digit crude today. Some analysts believe even the rebound in US oil from negative $40 to positive $40 in just seven weeks is overdone.

Coronavirus cases are spiking in some areas in the United States and Latin America. Demand for gasoline is improving but isn't nearly back to pre-pandemic levels. And it could take years for the airline industry to fully recover — if it ever does.

BP warns of $17.5 billion hit as pandemic accelerates move away from oil

BP (BP) warned this week that the health crisis could have an "enduring impact on the global economy," causing less demand for energy over a "sustained period." The UK oil giant slashed its forecast for Brent crude prices over the next three decades by 27% to $55 a barrel.

BP also said it plans to write down the value of its assets -- including untapped oil and gas reserves -- by up to $17.5 billion.

Somewhat counterintuitively, JPMorgan's Malek said the BP writedown and gloomy forecast are "one of the most bullish" developments he's seen.

That's because oil companies must spend heavily just to maintain production, let alone increase it. If they do nothing, output will naturally decline.

And BP's weaker outlook suggests even fewer long-term oil projects will make the cut. That in turn will keep supply low -- even as demand rises.

"It validates our point," Malek said.

Oil spending could collapse to 15-year lows

Between 2015 and 2020, more than 50 new oil projects were sanctioned globally, according to JPMorgan. But the bank estimates just five so-called "greenfield" projects will come on the line in the next five years.

And some Big Oil companies including BP, Shell (RDSB), Total (TOT) and ConocoPhillips (COP) have delayed making final investment decisions.

Global upstream investments are expected to plunge to a 15-year low of $383 billion in 2020, according to a recent Rystad Energy report.

Those spending cuts, Rystad said, will make it "more challenging to maintain existing production" and will potentially impact the "stability" of supply in the long run.

The pandemic won't fix the climate crisis. This $3 trillion recovery plan could

Of course, Saudi Arabia and Russia have the firepower to respond quickly to supply shortages. The two nations, along with the rest of OPEC, are intentionally holding back production to get rid of the supply glut.

But Saudi Arabia needs much higher oil prices to balance its massive budget, with breakeven at about $80 a barrel.

"They're not going to flood the market" for that reason, Malek said.

That could leave room for the United States to respond. US output has also dropped sharply, with the number of active drilling wells sinking to a record low, according to Baker Hughes data that goes back to 1987.

The climate change factor

Yet shale drillers can't bank on the once-unlimited stream of Wall Street funding. Investors are demanding frackers live within their means after years of burning through piles of cash.

"Shale is growing up. It's still there, but it's maturing," said Malek.

Capital is being further restrained by heightened concerns about climate change and the rise of socially responsible investing. A growing number of investors simply don't want to touch oil stocks.

The combination of the price crash, capital flight and climate change could limit the oil industry's ability to attract the necessary money -- just when it's needed the most.

The past few months have shown how difficult it is to forecast the future. While $190 crude might sound far-fetched, so did negative-$40 oil.
Safer route might be WTI.  Up 2.2x in the last 3 mo vs 2.13 for NRGU.  WTI peaked 1.41x higher than it's close today last week, NRGU was 1.71x.

Do you know what the decay rate is on this fund?

 
Safer route might be WTI.  Up 2.2x in the last 3 mo vs 2.13 for NRGU.  WTI peaked 1.41x higher than it's close today last week, NRGU was 1.71x.

Do you know what the decay rate is on this fund?
I have not been able to determine the decay rate. It's only been around since 2019 so not sure if that's why. Nice call on WTI but I am a sucker for these 3x ETF's

 
I know we aren’t supposed to talk Greek shipping, but I am buying a small portion of TOPS tomorrow. Shhhhh. 

 
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Time for another noob options question:

On 6/10, I bought a $31 call on DAL with a 7/2 expiration, and paid $310. The stock price right now is $31.40. So I would think I would have intrinsic value of about $40, plus some extrinsic value since we're 2 weeks away from expiry. However, if I were to sell right now, I would lose $109, because the current price is only $2.01. If the stock price is above the $31 call, why would I be losing money if I sold this option right now?

Similarly, on 6/15 I bought (2) $12 puts on GPS with a 7/17 expiration for $230 each. The stock price right now is $10.91. As in the example above, I would have thought that I would have $218 of intrinsic value ($12-$10.91= $1.09 x 100 x 2) plus extrinsic value since there is nearly a month until expiry. In this case, if I sold today, I would lose $116.

I know it's simplistic, but in the most basic terms, I thought that having a call trading above the strike price = profit, and having a put trading below the strike price = profit. What am I not understanding correctly?

 
Time for another noob options question:

On 6/10, I bought a $31 call on DAL with a 7/2 expiration, and paid $310. The stock price right now is $31.40. So I would think I would have intrinsic value of about $40, plus some extrinsic value since we're 2 weeks away from expiry. However, if I were to sell right now, I would lose $109, because the current price is only $2.01. If the stock price is above the $31 call, why would I be losing money if I sold this option right now?

Similarly, on 6/15 I bought (2) $12 puts on GPS with a 7/17 expiration for $230 each. The stock price right now is $10.91. As in the example above, I would have thought that I would have $218 of intrinsic value ($12-$10.91= $1.09 x 100 x 2) plus extrinsic value since there is nearly a month until expiry. In this case, if I sold today, I would lose $116.

I know it's simplistic, but in the most basic terms, I thought that having a call trading above the strike price = profit, and having a put trading below the strike price = profit. What am I not understanding correctly?
No idea on the puts, but for the calls I’d assume it is because they don’t sell for face value. They are buying a risk that it will go below and be worthless. DAL likely has more risk than others to go back down. I don’t know options but I’d think the downside risk is why. Why would I buy a call with an expiration when I could just buy the stock and get the exact same upside without the expiration.

 
Futures looking like good upside. Been a great week. It really is like that 35% drop never even happened. I’m well above the February top now.

 
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Futures looking like good upside. Been a great week. It really is like that 35% drop never even happened. I’m well above the February top now.
I'm still below, but we did but an HVAC system at almost the price of a decent used car. And lost money and opportunity by holding TZA too long.

 
NRGU closed at 4.68 yesterday. Is at 5.03 premarket. Here's my plan. Buy $10,000 worth as close to $5 as possible. Immediately put in a GTC sell order at $10. Make $10,000 within 90 days. 

 
Time for another noob options question:

On 6/10, I bought a $31 call on DAL with a 7/2 expiration, and paid $310. The stock price right now is $31.40. So I would think I would have intrinsic value of about $40, plus some extrinsic value since we're 2 weeks away from expiry. However, if I were to sell right now, I would lose $109, because the current price is only $2.01. If the stock price is above the $31 call, why would I be losing money if I sold this option right now?

Similarly, on 6/15 I bought (2) $12 puts on GPS with a 7/17 expiration for $230 each. The stock price right now is $10.91. As in the example above, I would have thought that I would have $218 of intrinsic value ($12-$10.91= $1.09 x 100 x 2) plus extrinsic value since there is nearly a month until expiry. In this case, if I sold today, I would lose $116.

I know it's simplistic, but in the most basic terms, I thought that having a call trading above the strike price = profit, and having a put trading below the strike price = profit. What am I not understanding correctly?
Your thinking is not wrong, however the options market doesn't walk in lockstep with the stock market, nor the underlying equity.

Right now the options market has significant premiums placed on prices going down.  I believe someone has posted a few tweets about put/call volumes and they are significantly to the put side.  

On DAL, you bought a $31 call and the stock is trading at $31.40.  So yo have the $0.40 value of the stock (or $40.00), plus SOME time value as the option isn't due for 2 more weeks but a lot more people are bearish on the airlines than bullish so I think you're overvaluing what this is at it appears to be about another $0.70 or so from what you posted.

And again on the puts, there is huge premiums out there on these as these are being bought in masse as insurance for another market collapse.

Last thing to keep in mind is the prices you are posting about are the last traded prices.  There are often times pretty disparate bid/ask prices on options, much more so than stocks.

 
Futures looking like good upside. Been a great week. It really is like that 35% drop never even happened. I’m well above the February top now.
Same here...we are around 6% above the Feb high. Up 6% YTD is a freaking huge win. And remarkable considering the chaos, panic and fear we saw March 16th-23rd. But...not surprising to be quite frank. I think the speed of the rebound is what is remarkable. And also gives me pause for caution again. 

Incredible times we are in in all aspects of life. Just wow. 

In Onion news.......$12 pre market. Set for take off today for an intra day move of 7-10%? Go baby go!!!!

 
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I'm still below, but we did but an HVAC system at almost the price of a decent used car. And lost money and opportunity by holding TZA too long.
It’s been a crazy year stock wise. I’m around 20% up from the peak in the accounts I manage even with some cash and the thing is that I regret not buying more at the bottom. I was so worried about a deeper dip/second dip that I didn’t go all in with what at the time was 30% cash. I’m glad I bought what I did but I do regret trimming down my TTD before the last leg up and not just doubling up my bottom purchases. I bought smaller shares and when I rebought shares I already owned I got 25-50% more. That said, no chance I’d complain about the end result considering I neither went to cash nor bought bearish stocks/ETFs. Owning stuff like FSLY helped. I still can’t believe that one. I think my overall cost basis is $17ish and it’s jumping again premarket to around $64. I only bought it in November and March. It’s like a penny stock but I don’t plan to sell for years. Hopefully, it’s one of those Amazon type stocks where 10 years from now I can laugh at how low I got it.

 
Same here...we are around 6% above the Feb high. Up 6% YTD is a freaking huge win. And remarkable considering the chaos, panic and fear we saw March 16th-23rd. But...not surprising to be quite frank. I think the speed of the rebound is what is remarkable. And also gives me pause for caution again. 

Incredible times we are in in all aspects of life. Just wow. 
It is crazy. YTD, I’m up 30-45% in my 3 accounts. That’s ridiculous considering that drop in the middle and the 30% one started the year with 30% cash. I’m back to being ridiculously worried though but there’s only 3 positions (CYDY, OPES and FMCI) that I’d consider selling this year.

 
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Time for another noob options question:

On 6/10, I bought a $31 call on DAL with a 7/2 expiration, and paid $310. The stock price right now is $31.40. So I would think I would have intrinsic value of about $40, plus some extrinsic value since we're 2 weeks away from expiry. However, if I were to sell right now, I would lose $109, because the current price is only $2.01. If the stock price is above the $31 call, why would I be losing money if I sold this option right now?

Similarly, on 6/15 I bought (2) $12 puts on GPS with a 7/17 expiration for $230 each. The stock price right now is $10.91. As in the example above, I would have thought that I would have $218 of intrinsic value ($12-$10.91= $1.09 x 100 x 2) plus extrinsic value since there is nearly a month until expiry. In this case, if I sold today, I would lose $116.

I know it's simplistic, but in the most basic terms, I thought that having a call trading above the strike price = profit, and having a put trading below the strike price = profit. What am I not understanding correctly?
Well to answer your last question, you seem to misunderstand options. I assume by profits, you mean making more than you invested. What you seem to be forgetting is the cost of the investment. Yes, if DAL is trading above $31, your option will have some value but you paid $3.10 for that option. Easiest way to think about it is your breakeven is the strike plus premium, so $34.10. So you would need DAL to trade above that to profit at expiry. Until then, your option value is a function of the underlying, volatility and time (along with some other things). So since you bought the call on 6/10, the stock appears to be down somewhat (closed at $31.64 on 6/10, you quoted it at $31.40). Obviously the time value of your option has declined since now you only have 2 weeks until expiry instead of 4 weeks. Vol is probably flat although I forget where it was on 6/10. 

The point of options is leverage. If DAL trades up to $37 by expiry, you'd get a 100% return on your investment compared to if you bought the stock at $31, you'd only get a 20% return. So perhaps another way to think about it, someone has to take the other side of that trade. If you sold that option to someone and DAL traded up to $37, you'd not only lose the premium someone paid but you'd owe them $300. That is why options are expensive especially in an elevated volatility environment. You aren't just betting on the stock being above or below a strike price, you're betting on it being higher or lower than what the market currently thinks. 

 
It is crazy. YTD, I’m up 30-45% in my 3 accounts. That’s ridiculous considering that drop in the middle. I’m back to being ridiculously worried though but there’s only 3 positions (CYDY, OPES and FMCI) that I’d consider selling this year.
Insane return! 

I merely added to existing positions on my master list between 3/16 and 3/23 as well as 5/15 and then that 1800 point drop last week. I have traded BLMN, MGM, CCL and TXRH. BLMN has been that gift that has kept on giving for me. 

The only trade I regret was SAVE (I missed it and then tried to chase it and lost just under 2% on it). 

With my investment philosophy (long buy and holder etc) having a positive 6% return in a year the Dow and S&P are negative is creating real diversified, risk adjusted Alpha. Heck of a year so far.

But.....we still have plenty of headwinds and mud to wade through. 

 
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Wait, you're going back to NY? Did I miss a thread? 
I’ve mentioned it in the NYC thread. Staying in Palm Beach County until the end of the year. Still waiting for my company to tell me I’m free to work from here forever or I’ll be heading to NJ in 2021. Our time within the NYC borders is over, I think.

 
Right now the options market has significant premiums placed on prices going down.  I believe someone has posted a few tweets about put/call volumes and they are significantly to the put side.  
It's actually the opposite. The put / call ratio is at historically low levels, to the point that the market is buying 2 calls for every put. Although I've seen a divergence between individual equities and indices with the put/call ratio for indexes being less bullish which may be a sign of institutional accounts buying protection while retail piles into calls. Could also be HFs buying market protection while investing in individual equities. But it's usually used as a contra-indicator that we're nearing a top since people are fully invested. 

 
If anyone is getting bored with BLMN, DENN seems to behave almost exactly the same based on its chart. I can’t see them going away completely, either.

 
I’ve been sitting at the train station watching SE disappear down the tracks. Yesterday (or a month ago) would have been a better time to but I’m buying a few tickets for this ride today. 

 
up 38.5% ytd and up 33% from the peak and that includes about a 15% position in tankers that is has dropped about 30%

 
Well to answer your last question, you seem to misunderstand options. I assume by profits, you mean making more than you invested. What you seem to be forgetting is the cost of the investment. Yes, if DAL is trading above $31, your option will have some value but you paid $3.10 for that option. Easiest way to think about it is your breakeven is the strike plus premium, so $34.10. So you would need DAL to trade above that to profit at expiry. Until then, your option value is a function of the underlying, volatility and time (along with some other things). So since you bought the call on 6/10, the stock appears to be down somewhat (closed at $31.64 on 6/10, you quoted it at $31.40). Obviously the time value of your option has declined since now you only have 2 weeks until expiry instead of 4 weeks. Vol is probably flat although I forget where it was on 6/10. 

The point of options is leverage. If DAL trades up to $37 by expiry, you'd get a 100% return on your investment compared to if you bought the stock at $31, you'd only get a 20% return. So perhaps another way to think about it, someone has to take the other side of that trade. If you sold that option to someone and DAL traded up to $37, you'd not only lose the premium someone paid but you'd owe them $300. That is why options are expensive especially in an elevated volatility environment. You aren't just betting on the stock being above or below a strike price, you're betting on it being higher or lower than what the market currently thinks. 
So in the case of my put, the market right now thinks that GPS will stay above $9.70?

 
If anyone is getting bored with BLMN, DENN seems to behave almost exactly the same based on its chart. I can’t see them going away completely, either.
Who get’s bored making money? You sound like a drug addict who needs a new high LOL!!!!!

 
Looking over my portfolio we are up 7% for the year. 

Going back to the WMT vs TGT

I reiterate I like TGT more and I would wait for a pull back. The forward multiple is more attractive on TGT (as well as the yield) than on WMT. Again WMT is a stalwart mega cap. But it is fairly valued and may be slightly over valued based on forward multiples. Of course it is tough to navigate forward multiples in this Covid world we are in currently......but for WMT and TGT not so much as people are still shopping at these two mega box stores. 

 
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Been scooping up stocks in the pre-market that haven't moved with the anticipated open.  We'll see how that works out.

 
up 38.5% ytd and up 33% from the peak and that includes about a 15% position in tankers that is has dropped about 30%
Down 1% and that's even with CYDY carrying me. Tankers  :doh:

ETA: from a straight balance perspective up ~33% but have many contributions making that happen.

 
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@sporthenry Hmm, you were mentioning the triple witching or whatever for expirations, but everything seems really calm. My portfolio and the 3 indices all within 1-1.18% up. I have a few stocks up a little over 2% and some a tiny bit negative but 0 big movers like I’ve seen every day for 3 months. Eerily calm. 

 
@sporthenry Hmm, you were mentioning the triple witching or whatever for expirations, but everything seems really calm. My portfolio and the 3 indices all within 1-1.18% up. I have a few stocks up a little over 2% and some a tiny bit negative but 0 big movers like I’ve seen every day for 3 months. Eerily calm. 
yup.  yawner thus far.

 
Been scooping up stocks in the pre-market that haven't moved with the anticipated open.  We'll see how that works out.
Well this didn't work out so well.  Made 1.25% on LK.  Only got a partial fill on JAX for 2 shares out of 100 which was good for 5%.  FMCI and Bloomin have been losers, KR a push.

 
yup.  yawner thus far.
I’ll take a 1% calm day every day of the year, but it feels weird. Had a few stocks get to over 3% up but I think I’ve had one stock at a minimum up 10% every day this week.

By the way, I hope you bought some LVGO. wouldn’t shock me to see it in the triple digits next year. 

 
Well this didn't work out so well.  Made 1.25% on LK.  Only got a partial fill on JAX for 2 shares out of 100 which was good for 5%.  FMCI and Bloomin have been losers, KR a push.
I wouldn’t touch KR if you paid me. Did work for them and while nice people, no chance I’d bet on it long term. Slime airlines for me, I’ll never own them unless some mutual fund I have in my 401ks has them buried in there. 

 
I’ll take a 1% calm day every day of the year, but it feels weird. Had a few stocks get to over 3% up but I think I’ve had one stock at a minimum up 10% every day this week.

By the way, I hope you bought some LVGO. wouldn’t shock me to see it in the triple digits next year. 
I nibbled.  Been more focused on SEA.  Thanks for the heads up, you are good at this.

 

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