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[Zow]

The Bear is a comedy series??

 

[Runkle]

The Bear is a comedy series??

I watched the first few episodes of The Bear (season 1). I can see why people like this, but I don't think it's for me. Good show, but sometimes the mark of a good show is that it isn't trying to appeal to every single person.

"Funniest show on TV!"

Yep, the second season just broke 30 Rock's record to become the most Emmy nominated comedy show. Well deserved. The laughs really never stop. I can't even imagine what records they'll break with season 3. That episode with the guy's mom's funeral was a laugh riot.

 

[HomerSimpson]

The Bear is a comedy series??

well, it is funny how bad season 3 was ~

 

[Pip's Invitation]

The Bear is a comedy series??

The industry is lazy and classifies anything with episodes in the 30-minute range as a comedy regardless of whether it actually is.

In reality The Bear is both comedy and drama -- though its humor is pretty dark.

 

[Capella]

I don’t know really know how to describe this season of the bear other than the first two seasons had an easy going way about it that made it’s pretentiousness feel earned and this season they are just Emmy farming. The first two seasons were a revelation that just seemed to come together naturally and this year they just tried to force it in and it didn’t work. It wasn’t bad, at all, just not what it was.

For instance the episode in the hospital with Jaime Lee Curtis just didn’t feel as authentic as the fishes episode last year. Idk maybe I’m crazy.

 

[Zow]

I don’t know really know how to describe this season of the bear other than the first two seasons had an easy going way about it that made it’s pretentiousness feel earned and this season they are just Emmy farming. The first two seasons were a revelation that just seemed to come together naturally and this year they just tried to force it in and it didn’t work. It wasn’t bad, at all, just not what it was.

For instance the episode in the hospital with Jaime Lee Curtis just didn’t feel as authentic as the fishes episode last year. Idk maybe I’m crazy.

You're not. My wife and I are literally watching the last episode now and we had a conversation about 15 minutes ago making this point. We also are flummoxed by the impending financial doom of the restaurant. I just find it unbelievable that they're packed every night, they're about to get a Michelin star, and yet Carmy can't just go get a small business loan? Also, wtf is up with Richie's ex-wife demanding he be at her wedding? On what planet would any rational human think an ex would want to attend and that when he doesn't you can demand it of him?

Feels like they're trying way too hard this season to be pretentious and "Emmy farm" like you described.

 

[Tick]

Just started Fargo Season 2 (two episodes in). Good lord, how did I miss this show the first time?

Edit: I've mentioned this before, but it bears repeating. Every single one of us has a nearly infinite backlog of A-/A/A+ programming just sitting out there. There's just no reason to waste time on shows that are merely above-average unless that show scratches some sort of highly-idiosyncratic itch, like Three Body Problem did for me. If you're the type of person who feels obliged to stick with a show once you've started, you're doing yourself a massive disservice. When a show goes south, drop it and move on.

I have liked every season of Fargo. The second season might be the best.

I skirted around it before but now that I've had time to think about it - I would actively discourage people from watching Three Body Problem in any iteration.

Yeah, Fargo has been so good. I even liked the St. Louis season. It makes me excited about the upcoming Aliens show from Noah Hawley.

 

[Pip's Invitation]

I don’t know really know how to describe this season of the bear other than the first two seasons had an easy going way about it that made it’s pretentiousness feel earned and this season they are just Emmy farming. The first two seasons were a revelation that just seemed to come together naturally and this year they just tried to force it in and it didn’t work. It wasn’t bad, at all, just not what it was.

For instance the episode in the hospital with Jaime Lee Curtis just didn’t feel as authentic as the fishes episode last year. Idk maybe I’m crazy.

You're not. My wife and I are literally watching the last episode now and we had a conversation about 15 minutes ago making this point. We also are flummoxed by the impending financial doom of the restaurant. I just find it unbelievable that they're packed every night, they're about to get a Michelin star, and yet Carmy can't just go get a small business loan? Also, wtf is up with Richie's ex-wife demanding he be at her wedding? On what planet would any rational human think an ex would want to attend and that when he doesn't you can demand it of him?

Feels like they're trying way too hard this season to be pretentious and "Emmy farm" like you described.

The idea is that Carmy is spending way too much, exacerbated by his insistence on a different menu every night, to ever make a profit. As he is blinded to how it affects people when he treats them harshly, he is also blinded to how unsustainable his business model is. Maybe we'll see other financial backers beyond Cicero in season 4, but who knows.

Nothing will ever recapture the full extent of the magic of the Fishes episode, but Ice Chips showed us sides of Donna we had not seen before and featured great acting by Curtis and Elliott. I did not find it to be Emmy farming at all. The last episode, with all the blathering from the real-life chefs, was the one that rang hollow to me.

 

[jamny]

I just finished S3 E4 of The Bear. It is....unbearable. Just a mish-mosh of chopped up scenes, no real character development, endless frenetic pacing and flashbacks. It seems as if many of the problems in the business are somewhat easily solved but that would ruin what they are trying to show I guess. I would never go back to that restaurant after hearing all the yelling and feeling all the stress. Why does he need to have this much of an elevated dining experience in the first place? I offered to stop watching but the wife said maybe we'll try one more episode. If this was an hour long show, I would have stopped already. The first season was good, the second was ok, this one is just bad so far.

 

[Zow]

I don’t know really know how to describe this season of the bear other than the first two seasons had an easy going way about it that made it’s pretentiousness feel earned and this season they are just Emmy farming. The first two seasons were a revelation that just seemed to come together naturally and this year they just tried to force it in and it didn’t work. It wasn’t bad, at all, just not what it was.

For instance the episode in the hospital with Jaime Lee Curtis just didn’t feel as authentic as the fishes episode last year. Idk maybe I’m crazy.

You're not. My wife and I are literally watching the last episode now and we had a conversation about 15 minutes ago making this point. We also are flummoxed by the impending financial doom of the restaurant. I just find it unbelievable that they're packed every night, they're about to get a Michelin star, and yet Carmy can't just go get a small business loan? Also, wtf is up with Richie's ex-wife demanding he be at her wedding? On what planet would any rational human think an ex would want to attend and that when he doesn't you can demand it of him?

Feels like they're trying way too hard this season to be pretentious and "Emmy farm" like you described.

The idea is that Carmy is spending way too much, exacerbated by his insistence on a different menu every night, to ever make a profit. As he is blinded to how it affects people when he treats them harshly, he is also blinded to how unsustainable his business model is. Maybe we'll see other financial backers beyond Cicero in season 4, but who knows.

I get that such is their "idea," but it's just a dumb and unrealistic one.

I'm getting the sense that the show is trying to turn Carmy into his mom. Honestly, if such is the case, I don't really want to see that.

 

[gianmarco]

Just watched Land of Bad last night on Netflix.

Was surprised by the 94% rotten tomatoes audience rating so gave it a shot. Pretty decent suspense, military op movie. The end was a bit much, but otherwise a good watch.

 

[foxco]

Just watched Land of Bad last night on Netflix.

Was surprised by the 94% rotten tomatoes audience rating so gave it a shot. Pretty decent suspense, military op movie. The end was a bit much, but otherwise a good watch.

Will probably watch that this weekend, trailer looked solid.

 

[beer 30]

Just watched Land of Bad last night on Netflix.

Was surprised by the 94% rotten tomatoes audience rating so gave it a shot. Pretty decent suspense, military op movie. The end was a bit much, but otherwise a good watch.

Will probably watch that this weekend, trailer looked solid.

Watched it a couple weeks ago, agree with Gian's synopsis. Good movie for what it is

 

[northern exposure]

I don’t know really know how to describe this season of the bear other than the first two seasons had an easy going way about it that made it’s pretentiousness feel earned and this season they are just Emmy farming. The first two seasons were a revelation that just seemed to come together naturally and this year they just tried to force it in and it didn’t work. It wasn’t bad, at all, just not what it was.

For instance the episode in the hospital with Jaime Lee Curtis just didn’t feel as authentic as the fishes episode last year. Idk maybe I’m crazy.

You're not. My wife and I are literally watching the last episode now and we had a conversation about 15 minutes ago making this point. We also are flummoxed by the impending financial doom of the restaurant. I just find it unbelievable that they're packed every night, they're about to get a Michelin star, and yet Carmy can't just go get a small business loan? Also, wtf is up with Richie's ex-wife demanding he be at her wedding? On what planet would any rational human think an ex would want to attend and that when he doesn't you can demand it of him?

Feels like they're trying way too hard this season to be pretentious and "Emmy farm" like you described.

The idea is that Carmy is spending way too much, exacerbated by his insistence on a different menu every night, to ever make a profit. As he is blinded to how it affects people when he treats them harshly, he is also blinded to how unsustainable his business model is. Maybe we'll see other financial backers beyond Cicero in season 4, but who knows.

Nothing will ever recapture the full extent of the magic of the Fishes episode, but Ice Chips showed us sides of Donna we had not seen before and featured great acting by Curtis and Elliott. I did not find it to be Emmy farming at all. The last episode, with all the blathering from the real-life chefs, was the one that rang hollow to me.

I think Carmy may be trying to replicate in his restaurant what he sees in other restaurants he has worked in.
What he forgets is his restaurant is just starting out and the others (like Ever) are well established places that have determined what works and what doesn't if they want to continue to operate.
Carmy is trying to have his dream restaurant and isn't focusing on what he needs to do to make money and continue to survive.

 

[Pip's Invitation]

I don’t know really know how to describe this season of the bear other than the first two seasons had an easy going way about it that made it’s pretentiousness feel earned and this season they are just Emmy farming. The first two seasons were a revelation that just seemed to come together naturally and this year they just tried to force it in and it didn’t work. It wasn’t bad, at all, just not what it was.

For instance the episode in the hospital with Jaime Lee Curtis just didn’t feel as authentic as the fishes episode last year. Idk maybe I’m crazy.

You're not. My wife and I are literally watching the last episode now and we had a conversation about 15 minutes ago making this point. We also are flummoxed by the impending financial doom of the restaurant. I just find it unbelievable that they're packed every night, they're about to get a Michelin star, and yet Carmy can't just go get a small business loan? Also, wtf is up with Richie's ex-wife demanding he be at her wedding? On what planet would any rational human think an ex would want to attend and that when he doesn't you can demand it of him?

Feels like they're trying way too hard this season to be pretentious and "Emmy farm" like you described.

The idea is that Carmy is spending way too much, exacerbated by his insistence on a different menu every night, to ever make a profit. As he is blinded to how it affects people when he treats them harshly, he is also blinded to how unsustainable his business model is. Maybe we'll see other financial backers beyond Cicero in season 4, but who knows.

Nothing will ever recapture the full extent of the magic of the Fishes episode, but Ice Chips showed us sides of Donna we had not seen before and featured great acting by Curtis and Elliott. I did not find it to be Emmy farming at all. The last episode, with all the blathering from the real-life chefs, was the one that rang hollow to me.

I think Carmy may be trying to replicate in his restaurant what he sees in other restaurants he has worked in.
What he forgets is his restaurant is just starting out and the others (like Ever) are well established places that have determined what works and what doesn't if they want to continue to operate.
Carmy is trying to have his dream restaurant and isn't focusing on what he needs to do to make money and continue to survive.

And his dad and brother both had the same kind of problem, and it ended badly for them. (We learn more about the dad in E6 of S3, for those who haven't gotten there.)

 

[Capella]

I don’t know really know how to describe this season of the bear other than the first two seasons had an easy going way about it that made it’s pretentiousness feel earned and this season they are just Emmy farming. The first two seasons were a revelation that just seemed to come together naturally and this year they just tried to force it in and it didn’t work. It wasn’t bad, at all, just not what it was.

For instance the episode in the hospital with Jaime Lee Curtis just didn’t feel as authentic as the fishes episode last year. Idk maybe I’m crazy.

You're not. My wife and I are literally watching the last episode now and we had a conversation about 15 minutes ago making this point. We also are flummoxed by the impending financial doom of the restaurant. I just find it unbelievable that they're packed every night, they're about to get a Michelin star, and yet Carmy can't just go get a small business loan? Also, wtf is up with Richie's ex-wife demanding he be at her wedding? On what planet would any rational human think an ex would want to attend and that when he doesn't you can demand it of him?

Feels like they're trying way too hard this season to be pretentious and "Emmy farm" like you described.

The idea is that Carmy is spending way too much, exacerbated by his insistence on a different menu every night, to ever make a profit. As he is blinded to how it affects people when he treats them harshly, he is also blinded to how unsustainable his business model is. Maybe we'll see other financial backers beyond Cicero in season 4, but who knows.

Nothing will ever recapture the full extent of the magic of the Fishes episode, but Ice Chips showed us sides of Donna we had not seen before and featured great acting by Curtis and Elliott. I did not find it to be Emmy farming at all. The last episode, with all the blathering from the real-life chefs, was the one that rang hollow to me.

I think Carmy may be trying to replicate in his restaurant what he sees in other restaurants he has worked in.
What he forgets is his restaurant is just starting out and the others (like Ever) are well established places that have determined what works and what doesn't if they want to continue to operate.
Carmy is trying to have his dream restaurant and isn't focusing on what he needs to do to make money and continue to survive.

And his dad and brother both had the same kind of problem, and it ended badly for them. (We learn more about the dad in E6 of S3, for those who haven't gotten there.)

Was this from Mikey’s talk? Guess I missed what was said.

 

[Pip's Invitation]

I don’t know really know how to describe this season of the bear other than the first two seasons had an easy going way about it that made it’s pretentiousness feel earned and this season they are just Emmy farming. The first two seasons were a revelation that just seemed to come together naturally and this year they just tried to force it in and it didn’t work. It wasn’t bad, at all, just not what it was.

For instance the episode in the hospital with Jaime Lee Curtis just didn’t feel as authentic as the fishes episode last year. Idk maybe I’m crazy.

You're not. My wife and I are literally watching the last episode now and we had a conversation about 15 minutes ago making this point. We also are flummoxed by the impending financial doom of the restaurant. I just find it unbelievable that they're packed every night, they're about to get a Michelin star, and yet Carmy can't just go get a small business loan? Also, wtf is up with Richie's ex-wife demanding he be at her wedding? On what planet would any rational human think an ex would want to attend and that when he doesn't you can demand it of him?

Feels like they're trying way too hard this season to be pretentious and "Emmy farm" like you described.

The idea is that Carmy is spending way too much, exacerbated by his insistence on a different menu every night, to ever make a profit. As he is blinded to how it affects people when he treats them harshly, he is also blinded to how unsustainable his business model is. Maybe we'll see other financial backers beyond Cicero in season 4, but who knows.

Nothing will ever recapture the full extent of the magic of the Fishes episode, but Ice Chips showed us sides of Donna we had not seen before and featured great acting by Curtis and Elliott. I did not find it to be Emmy farming at all. The last episode, with all the blathering from the real-life chefs, was the one that rang hollow to me.

I think Carmy may be trying to replicate in his restaurant what he sees in other restaurants he has worked in.
What he forgets is his restaurant is just starting out and the others (like Ever) are well established places that have determined what works and what doesn't if they want to continue to operate.
Carmy is trying to have his dream restaurant and isn't focusing on what he needs to do to make money and continue to survive.

And his dad and brother both had the same kind of problem, and it ended badly for them. (We learn more about the dad in E6 of S3, for those who haven't gotten there.)

Was this from Mikey’s talk? Guess I missed what was said.

Yes, it was part of the conversation toward the end of the episode.

Mikey said his dad

Spoiler

was running The Beef but got overwhelmed by the bills and responded by disappearing.

 

[TripItUp]

Just watched Land of Bad last night on Netflix.

Was surprised by the 94% rotten tomatoes audience rating so gave it a shot. Pretty decent suspense, military op movie. The end was a bit much, but otherwise a good watch.

yeah, commented on this in another thread...I really enjoyed it.

 

[Ray Barboni]

Has anyone brought up “Presumed Innocent” on Apple TV?

Excellent watch so far. Great performances from Jake G and Peter Sarsgaard.

8 episodes, season finale next week 7/26.

Highly recommend.

 

[Zow]

Has anyone brought up “Presumed Innocent” on Apple TV?

Excellent watch so far. Great performances from Jake G and Peter Sarsgaard.

8 episodes, season finale next week 7/26.

Highly recommend.

Wife and I are through the first two episodes. She never saw the movie so I'm jealous that she gets to enjoy the storyline without knowing what happens.

I did appreciate the opening statement and closing arguments given in the first episode. They were actually quite realistic as opposed to most movies/shows.

 

[El Floppo]

Has anyone brought up “Presumed Innocent” on Apple TV?

Excellent watch so far. Great performances from Jake G and Peter Sarsgaard.

8 episodes, season finale next week 7/26.

Highly recommend.

Wife and I are through the first two episodes. She never saw the movie so I'm jealous that she gets to enjoy the storyline without knowing what happens.

I did appreciate the opening statement and closing arguments given in the first episode. They were actually quite realistic as opposed to most movies/shows.

Yeah... It's getting comments and views in here. Solid watch that doesn't feel like it's elevated to another level just yet, which I guess is typical for Apple shows.

Great cast and performances. And like MrsZow, I either never saw the movie or don't remember it. The series is doing a good job keeping me guessing.

 

[El Floppo]

We started that new show about Rome... Turned it off. Will wait for other comments before thinking about restarting.

 

[Hastur]

My wife went to bed, and I'm surfing Netflix looking for some brainless entertainment. Well, I found it.

The Great Wall with Matt Damon.

Holy smokes, what an awful movie. I'm ashamed I watched the whole thing. It was brainless as well as entertaining.

 

[BLOCKED_PUNT]

We started that new show about Rome... Turned it off. Will wait for other comments before thinking about restarting.

those who are about to die? what do you dislike about it?

 

[El Floppo]

We started that new show about Rome... Turned it off. Will wait for other comments before thinking about restarting.

those who are about to die? what do you dislike about it?

Felt cheesy/cheap in the writing... Dunno. More than willing to give another chance if it's decent.

 

[Payne]

Has anyone brought up “Presumed Innocent” on Apple TV?

Excellent watch so far. Great performances from Jake G and Peter Sarsgaard.

8 episodes, season finale next week 7/26.

Highly recommend.

Been really solid. I feel like the wife's acting drags it down a tad.

I'm sure I watched the movie, but do not remember what happened.

 

[BLOCKED_PUNT]

We started that new show about Rome... Turned it off. Will wait for other comments before thinking about restarting.

those who are about to die? what do you dislike about it?

Felt cheesy/cheap in the writing... Dunno. More than willing to give another chance if it's decent.

I'm not saying its the best thing I've ever seen but its enjoyable for me. I'm on episode five. I also just mind have bad taste and am way too easily entertained.

 

[zoonation]

We started that new show about Rome... Turned it off. Will wait for other comments before thinking about restarting.

those who are about to die? what do you dislike about it?

The writing, the terrible production, the directing. Basically everything. So disappointing.

 

[Peggy]

We started that new show about Rome... Turned it off. Will wait for other comments before thinking about restarting.

those who are about to die? what do you dislike about it?

The writing, the terrible production, the directing. Basically everything. So disappointing.

I'm going to keep with it for another couple episodes, but, ep1 was not good.

Hey let's start a rebellion because we are all starving, cuts to scene walking through the streets with food vendors everywhere. They're rebelling we must distract them with a chariot race! It works, I guess they weren't really starving all that much.

But hey, I didn't know the Peacock was showing boobs.

 

[gianmarco]

Man, we never watched Black Sails until recently.

What a fantastic show. Binging the hell out of it.

 

[simey]

Also, wtf is up with Richie's ex-wife demanding he be at her wedding? On what planet would any rational human think an ex would want to attend and that when he doesn't you can demand it of him?

One of my friends was asked by his ex-wife to come to her and her new wife's wedding reception. His ex left him for a woman. I remember when it first happened, and he was so blindsided, and said, "How do I compete with a woman?" His ex and her new wife eloped at some point in their relationship, and then later wanted to have a big wedding reception for friends and family. He and his ex share two kids. She wanted him to come to the reception to make their kids feel more comfortable and to show family unity, and because a lot of their friends would be there, and he and her parents are still close (he is especially close to his former FIL). These were the reasons she told him. Anyway, he went. He said one of the most awkward moments was when his ex-wife's new wife wanted to set him up with one of her friends. He said sarcastically, "She'd know my type." It took some time for him to get over his ex, but he has been for a few years now. He has holiday and their kids' birthday meals with his ex and her wife sometimes. He's a good guy, and if I had to name the truest gentleman I know, it is easily him.

 

[SWC]

i really liked a man in full we watched it all over about the course of three days and it was pretty darned good take that to the bank brohans

 

[BlackCrowes]

Really enjoyed Presumed Innocent

 

[falguy]

Really enjoyed Presumed Innocent

3 episodes in and enjoying it as well. Wish I didn't know the original story because I can't help but foresee the same ending. Regardless, I don't remember the original all that well and it's a very solid show. My only negative is how Nico delivers his lines but since he's not a major part of the story I can ignore it for the most part.

 

[El Floppo]

Started Time Bandits last night on Apple.

Waititi and Germaine Clement behind and in the scenes, so a fair bit of that kind of humor which is good (for me). The only downside so far is the kid- who is doing fine, but is just a boring character as the lead.

 

[jamny]

Slim pickins on new shows that look good. Even upcoming ones don't look interesting.
Was the show All the Light We Cannot See any good?

 

[Zow]

Really enjoyed Presumed Innocent

3 episodes in and enjoying it as well. Wish I didn't know the original story because I can't help but foresee the same ending. Regardless, I don't remember the original all that well and it's a very solid show. My only negative is how Nico delivers his lines but since he's not a major part of the story I can ignore it for the most part.

Yeah this is where I'm at though we are on episode 5 or 6. I'm super jealous of my wife while watching it because she doesn't know the story whereas I read both the book and watched the original movie with Ford.

I don't think I'm spoiling anything by noting that the show has done a pretty nice job of gently and subtly introducing other suspects (the guy in prison, the guy whose DNA was at the original crime scene, the son on his bike, etc.) better than the movie did.

 

[BlackCrowes]

Really enjoyed Presumed Innocent

3 episodes in and enjoying it as well. Wish I didn't know the original story because I can't help but foresee the same ending. Regardless, I don't remember the original all that well and it's a very solid show. My only negative is how Nico delivers his lines but since he's not a major part of the story I can ignore it for the most part.

Yeah this is where I'm at though we are on episode 5 or 6. I'm super jealous of my wife while watching it because she doesn't know the story whereas I read both the book and watched the original movie with Ford.

I don't think I'm spoiling anything by noting that the show has done a pretty nice job and gently and subtly introducing other suspects (the guy in prison, the guy whose DNA was at the original crime scene, the son on his bike, etc.) better than the movie did.

agree the wrinkles have been good. they really had to given the extra run time.

 

[Gally]

Really enjoyed Presumed Innocent

3 episodes in and enjoying it as well. Wish I didn't know the original story because I can't help but foresee the same ending. Regardless, I don't remember the original all that well and it's a very solid show. My only negative is how Nico delivers his lines but since he's not a major part of the story I can ignore it for the most part.

Yeah this is where I'm at though we are on episode 5 or 6. I'm super jealous of my wife while watching it because she doesn't know the story whereas I read both the book and watched the original movie with Ford.

I don't think I'm spoiling anything by noting that the show has done a pretty nice job and gently and subtly introducing other suspects (the guy in prison, the guy whose DNA was at the original crime scene, the son on his bike, etc.) better than the movie did.

agree the wrinkles have been good. they really had to given the extra run time.

Spoiler: Movie vs Series

For those that have watched the movie they have changed the ending somewhat so it wasn't the same. I kept waiting for the same beats and it didn't get there and didn't some different things. I also didn't like the way they pivoted. The movie was much, much better IMO. I also couldn't quite buy Jake as Rusty. Harrison Ford did a much better job. Jake just seemed forced and really wasn't all that believable to me. Overall I liked the series in general but it wasn't nearly as good as the movie.

 

[BeTheMatch]

Slim pickins on new shows that look good. Even upcoming ones don't look interesting.
Was the show All the Light We Cannot See any good?

Slow but solid. I liked it.

 

[El Floppo]

Slim pickins on new shows that look good. Even upcoming ones don't look interesting.
Was the show All the Light We Cannot See any good?

It's decent.

 

[Payne]

Really enjoyed Presumed Innocent

3 episodes in and enjoying it as well. Wish I didn't know the original story because I can't help but foresee the same ending. Regardless, I don't remember the original all that well and it's a very solid show. My only negative is how Nico delivers his lines but since he's not a major part of the story I can ignore it for the most part.

He almost ruined the series for me. Absolutely terrible.

 

[whoknew]

Dancing for the Devil: The 7m Tik Tok Cult - Anyone watch this on Netflix? It's a 3 episode documentary. I'm 2/3 of the way through. And I really, really dislike the cult leader. Which I guess is the point. But still ... he's a bad fella. Or, at least they paint him that way.

But so far its a pretty entertaining way to spend 3 hours.

 

[Tick]

Started Time Bandits last night on Apple.

Waititi and Germaine Clement behind and in the scenes, so a fair bit of that kind of humor which is good (for me). The only downside so far is the kid- who is doing fine, but is just a boring character as the lead.

First I've heard of this... let us know how you like it as you get further.

 

[falguy]

Really enjoyed Presumed Innocent

3 episodes in and enjoying it as well. Wish I didn't know the original story because I can't help but foresee the same ending. Regardless, I don't remember the original all that well and it's a very solid show. My only negative is how Nico delivers his lines but since he's not a major part of the story I can ignore it for the most part.

Yeah this is where I'm at though we are on episode 5 or 6. I'm super jealous of my wife while watching it because she doesn't know the story whereas I read both the book and watched the original movie with Ford.

I don't think I'm spoiling anything by noting that the show has done a pretty nice job and gently and subtly introducing other suspects (the guy in prison, the guy whose DNA was at the original crime scene, the son on his bike, etc.) better than the movie did.

agree the wrinkles have been good. they really had to given the extra run time.

Spoiler: Movie vs Series

For those that have watched the movie they have changed the ending somewhat so it wasn't the same. I kept waiting for the same beats and it didn't get there and didn't some different things. I also didn't like the way they pivoted. The movie was much, much better IMO. I also couldn't quite buy Jake as Rusty. Harrison Ford did a much better job. Jake just seemed forced and really wasn't all that believable to me. Overall I liked the series in general but it wasn't nearly as good as the movie.

Binged the final 3 episodes last night. Was very happy with it. I thought the acting was well above par, even the kids. Ruth Negga was superb, especially in the final episode. Rusty wasn't the kind of character you root for, tho I can't recall how Ford played him in the original. but I don't think he was as much of a douche.

Spoiler

On one hand I appreciated that they altered the ending somewhat, but on the other hand, I don't think it was particularly believable to have this person be the killer. Can't really see how someone this age could regroup as fast as she did and not once crack during the long trial. I mean she was perfectly normal the very next day. (I believe it was the next day when they heard the news). Of course Rusty also did a good job of pretending to not have any idea what happened, but as an adult I could see that a bit more likely

 

[Zow]

Really enjoyed Presumed Innocent

3 episodes in and enjoying it as well. Wish I didn't know the original story because I can't help but foresee the same ending. Regardless, I don't remember the original all that well and it's a very solid show. My only negative is how Nico delivers his lines but since he's not a major part of the story I can ignore it for the most part.

Yeah this is where I'm at though we are on episode 5 or 6. I'm super jealous of my wife while watching it because she doesn't know the story whereas I read both the book and watched the original movie with Ford.

I don't think I'm spoiling anything by noting that the show has done a pretty nice job and gently and subtly introducing other suspects (the guy in prison, the guy whose DNA was at the original crime scene, the son on his bike, etc.) better than the movie did.

agree the wrinkles have been good. they really had to given the extra run time.

Spoiler: Movie vs Series

For those that have watched the movie they have changed the ending somewhat so it wasn't the same. I kept waiting for the same beats and it didn't get there and didn't some different things. I also didn't like the way they pivoted. The movie was much, much better IMO. I also couldn't quite buy Jake as Rusty. Harrison Ford did a much better job. Jake just seemed forced and really wasn't all that believable to me. Overall I liked the series in general but it wasn't nearly as good as the movie.

Binged the final 3 episodes last night. Was very happy with it. I thought the acting was well above par, even the kids. Ruth Negga was superb, especially in the final episode. Rusty wasn't the kind of character you root for, tho I can't recall how Ford played him in the original. but I don't think he was as much of a douche.

Spoiler

On one hand I appreciated that they altered the ending somewhat, but on the other hand, I don't think it was particularly believable to have this person be the killer. Can't really see how someone this age could regroup as fast as she did and not once crack during the long trial. I mean she was perfectly normal the very next day. (I believe it was the next day when they heard the news). Of course Rusty also did a good job of pretending to not have any idea what happened, but as an adult I could see that a bit more likely

I avoided your spoiler but the bold was the biggest difference I noticed between the show and the movie. Ford was much more empathetic and contrite for his actions in the movie, which made him a much more sympathetic and almost likeable character overall. Perhaps that's just natural Ford but I recall viewing him as a true protagonist and borderline tragic figure in the movie where JG portrayed the character in an unlikeable way (at least through the 7 episodes I've viewed).

 

[Gally]

Really enjoyed Presumed Innocent

3 episodes in and enjoying it as well. Wish I didn't know the original story because I can't help but foresee the same ending. Regardless, I don't remember the original all that well and it's a very solid show. My only negative is how Nico delivers his lines but since he's not a major part of the story I can ignore it for the most part.

Yeah this is where I'm at though we are on episode 5 or 6. I'm super jealous of my wife while watching it because she doesn't know the story whereas I read both the book and watched the original movie with Ford.

I don't think I'm spoiling anything by noting that the show has done a pretty nice job and gently and subtly introducing other suspects (the guy in prison, the guy whose DNA was at the original crime scene, the son on his bike, etc.) better than the movie did.

agree the wrinkles have been good. they really had to given the extra run time.

Spoiler: Movie vs Series

For those that have watched the movie they have changed the ending somewhat so it wasn't the same. I kept waiting for the same beats and it didn't get there and didn't some different things. I also didn't like the way they pivoted. The movie was much, much better IMO. I also couldn't quite buy Jake as Rusty. Harrison Ford did a much better job. Jake just seemed forced and really wasn't all that believable to me. Overall I liked the series in general but it wasn't nearly as good as the movie.

Binged the final 3 episodes last night. Was very happy with it. I thought the acting was well above par, even the kids. Ruth Negga was superb, especially in the final episode. Rusty wasn't the kind of character you root for, tho I can't recall how Ford played him in the original. but I don't think he was as much of a douche.

Spoiler

On one hand I appreciated that they altered the ending somewhat, but on the other hand, I don't think it was particularly believable to have this person be the killer. Can't really see how someone this age could regroup as fast as she did and not once crack during the long trial. I mean she was perfectly normal the very next day. (I believe it was the next day when they heard the news). Of course Rusty also did a good job of pretending to not have any idea what happened, but as an adult I could see that a bit more likely

Spoiler: Rusty

I didn't like that they changed Rusty into participating in the cover up. I thought that took away a bit from the greatness of the story. I get why they did that to make ths story a bit more believable but I thought it was far less effective as a reveal. The movie did a much better job of the reveal and as I said before I just didn't like the way JG portrayed Rusty. Ford did a much better job

 

[Gally]

I avoided your spoiler but the bold was the biggest difference I noticed between the show and the movie. Ford was much more empathetic and contrite for his actions in the movie, which made him a much more sympathetic and almost likeable character overall. Perhaps that's just natural Ford but I recall viewing him as a true protagonist and borderline tragic figure in the movie where JG portrayed the character in an unlikeable way (at least through the 7 episodes I've viewed).

Great description of the difference. Ford was much more likeable and it was perfect for the way the movie played out. I just didn't like the way JG portrayed Rusty but much of that could be because I liked the movie so much. Without the movie I am not sure how I would have received JG's portrayal.

 

[BlackCrowes]

I avoided your spoiler but the bold was the biggest difference I noticed between the show and the movie. Ford was much more empathetic and contrite for his actions in the movie, which made him a much more sympathetic and almost likeable character overall. Perhaps that's just natural Ford but I recall viewing him as a true protagonist and borderline tragic figure in the movie where JG portrayed the character in an unlikeable way (at least through the 7 episodes I've viewed).

Great description of the difference. Ford was much more likeable and it was perfect for the way the movie played out. I just didn't like the way JG portrayed Rusty but much of that could be because I liked the movie so much. Without the movie I am not sure how I would have received JG's portrayal.

the parts were written very differently.

 

[El Floppo]

I avoided your spoiler but the bold was the biggest difference I noticed between the show and the movie. Ford was much more empathetic and contrite for his actions in the movie, which made him a much more sympathetic and almost likeable character overall. Perhaps that's just natural Ford but I recall viewing him as a true protagonist and borderline tragic figure in the movie where JG portrayed the character in an unlikeable way (at least through the 7 episodes I've viewed).

Great description of the difference. Ford was much more likeable and it was perfect for the way the movie played out. I just didn't like the way JG portrayed Rusty but much of that could be because I liked the movie so much. Without the movie I am not sure how I would have received JG's portrayal.

the parts were written very differently.

And it was important for the show to keep you wondering if Rusty did or didn't do it, if he was or wasn't capable of doing such a thing. Otherwise it's 8 episodes of looking at everybody else and knowing he's either innocent or not. And I thought the show did a great job keeping me guessing until the end.

The description of Fords movie portrayal sounds like all of his portrayals, tbh.