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Not sure if this was already mentioned in here, but for reality TV and/or comedy fans, there's a reboot of The Joe Schmo Show that's starting on TBS tonight. The original show was :moneybag:
WHAT. IS. GOING. ON???!!!
I genuinely wonder how they'd be able to replicate it (and I know there were a handful of reboots) given the insanely self-aware gameplay every contestant on these shows has now.

What made that so great was that Joe was genuinely naive and genuinely a lovely guy. I remember how badly all the other "contestants" seemed to feel about deceiving him as the hijinx got increasingly more ridiculous and their friendships seemed to realistically develop.

ETA... Yes, the word of the day was "genuinely".
 
I genuinely wonder how they'd be able to replicate it (and I know there were a handful of reboots) given the insanely self-aware gameplay every contestant on these shows has now.

What made that so great was that Joe was genuinely naive and genuinely a lovely guy. I remember how badly all the other "contestants" seemed to feel about deceiving him as the hijinx got increasingly more ridiculous and their friendships seemed to realistically develop.

Agree with all of this (genuinely). It was great but also so cringe-y because he really was lovely, as you said. Remember when he gave someone the trip he won because they had gotten hurt in the challenge? Seems like all reality TV participants now are trying to be "influencers," so it will be more difficult to cast this one well.
 
I genuinely wonder how they'd be able to replicate it (and I know there were a handful of reboots) given the insanely self-aware gameplay every contestant on these shows has now.

What made that so great was that Joe was genuinely naive and genuinely a lovely guy. I remember how badly all the other "contestants" seemed to feel about deceiving him as the hijinx got increasingly more ridiculous and their friendships seemed to realistically develop.

Agree with all of this (genuinely). It was great but also so cringe-y because he really was lovely, as you said. Remember when he gave someone the trip he won because they had gotten hurt in the challenge? Seems like all reality TV participants now are trying to be "influencers," so it will be more difficult to cast this one well.
Wild that the “someone” was Kristen Wiig.
 
For those that like shows like Criminal Minds or hunting down serial killers, a new show has it's first episode out.
The Hunting Party

A high-concept crime procedural about a small team of investigators who are assembled to track down and capture the most dangerous killers our country has ever seen, all of whom have just escaped from a top-secret prison that’s not supposed to exist.
Enjoyed the first episode. :thumbup:
 
If anyone is interested in participating, we're doing a FBG Consensus Greatest TV Shows of all time thread. You submit a ranked list, and the overall list will be counted down. Could end up being a good "What should I watch next?" resource for this thread.

 
Almost finished S2 of Special Ops: Lioness and imo it is a downgrade from S1.
Agree but still enjoying
Both seasons are great
See I liked season 2 over 1. It filled time for me but never really got me to buy in. The SOF dude scarfing pizza every time they weren't on a mission probably had something to do with it.

As an oil hand on Landman...believable. As an uber elite SOF warrior...I got issues.
 
If anyone is interested in participating, we're doing a FBG Consensus Greatest TV Shows of all time thread. You submit a ranked list, and the overall list will be counted down. Could end up being a good "What should I watch next?" resource for this thread.

We did this already. We did a draft.
 
Almost finished S2 of Special Ops: Lioness and imo it is a downgrade from S1.
Agree but still enjoying
Both seasons are great
See I liked season 2 over 1. It filled time for me but never really got me to buy in. The SOF dude scarfing pizza every time they weren't on a mission probably had something to do with it.

As an oil hand on Landman...believable. As an uber elite SOF warrior...I got issues.
I still can't believe it took me 1.5 season to realize the female SOF was Jill Wagner
 
Almost finished S2 of Special Ops: Lioness and imo it is a downgrade from S1.
Agree but still enjoying
Both seasons are great
See I liked season 2 over 1. It filled time for me but never really got me to buy in. The SOF dude scarfing pizza every time they weren't on a mission probably had something to do with it.

As an oil hand on Landman...believable. As an uber elite SOF warrior...I got issues.
I still can't believe it took me 1.5 season to realize the female SOF was Jill Wagner
Holy **** they did that poor girl wrong in Lioness
 
For those that like shows like Criminal Minds or hunting down serial killers, a new show has it's first episode out.
The Hunting Party

A high-concept crime procedural about a small team of investigators who are assembled to track down and capture the most dangerous killers our country has ever seen, all of whom have just escaped from a top-secret prison that’s not supposed to exist.
Enjoyed the first episode. :thumbup:
Promising so far. I liked the first episode as well

To me it had similarities to Blacklist as an overall premise and feel. Each episode will be after one bad guy with some mysteries surrounding the top secret prison and what was going in in there. Nothing will compare to Spader but the secret stuff and finding out about each bad guy has that same feel to me.
 
Binged through A Man on the Inside (Netflix) today. Pretty solid. Michael Schur and Ted Danson reuniting for some Good Place vibes. I see some comparisons in this thread to Only Murders in the Building, which I can see too. May see it as a bit of a cross between the two.
Thought this was really fun. Looking forward to S2 (if it happens).
 
Goliath on Amazon prime looks decent. Watched a few trailers and it looks promising. Huge Billy Bob fan. Thinking about starting it with wife. Anyone watch it?
Each season got progressively worse. We thought S1 was excellent, S2 was good enough, S3 was a bit of a slog to get through and didn't' even start S4. I'd suggest watch season 1 and give season 2 a try. Wouldn't recommend S3.
This. First season was good and then it just got weirder and weirder and not in a good way.
 
Almost finished S2 of Special Ops: Lioness and imo it is a downgrade from S1.
Agree but still enjoying
Both seasons are great
See I liked season 2 over 1. It filled time for me but never really got me to buy in. The SOF dude scarfing pizza every time they weren't on a mission probably had something to do with it.

As an oil hand on Landman...believable. As an uber elite SOF warrior...I got issues.
I still can't believe it took me 1.5 season to realize the female SOF was Jill Wagner
Holy **** they did that poor girl wrong in Lioness
She's an EP
 
For those that like shows like Criminal Minds or hunting down serial killers, a new show has it's first episode out.
The Hunting Party

A high-concept crime procedural about a small team of investigators who are assembled to track down and capture the most dangerous killers our country has ever seen, all of whom have just escaped from a top-secret prison that’s not supposed to exist.
Enjoyed the first episode. :thumbup:
Promising so far. I liked the first episode as well

To me it had similarities to Blacklist as an overall premise and feel. Each episode will be after one bad guy with some mysteries surrounding the top secret prison and what was going in in there. Nothing will compare to Spader but the secret stuff and finding out about each bad guy has that same feel to me.
Good call on the Blacklist comparison.

Hope they don't kill off the main character just to bring her back a little later. Was the shark jump point for me on Blacklist.
 
The Traitors UK S3

Ep 6
Ep 7
I liked the new 'murder in plain sight' for 4 Faithfuls to play against each other. Nice twist. Wonder what would have happened if a Traitor was in the set of 4 - how would production play it out? Retail Sales will get some targeting as the last survivor. Train Manager is no more.

Even better twist was the Traitors hand delivered the murder letter to the loser. Wonder how many times an 'in-person' murder has been done across the worldwide series.

Mission - Made everyone search for the 3 missing - that apparently didn't go 'home' that night. Wonder how long the Train Resolutionist was in the coffin on the boat in the middle of the lake. The water was very still so they didn't rush him out there with moments to spare. Paddled himself? Maybe he closed the lid just prior to them driving up. But still pretty cold out on a lake with little movement.

Train Manager proven to be Faithful leaving Train Resolutionist as a possible Traitor if one of them came back into the game as one.

Players trying to recall how they might have been identified as a mark for the murder in plain sight, took a drink, shake hands, whatever.

Fair amount of focus on the Opera Traitor as they go on offense to plant seeds against Soldier Barbie. Soldier Barbie getting some murmurs their way.

Nobody saw the painting yet of the 4 murder targets playing cards and their names on the tombstones. Not a single person remembers the paintings on the wall and triggered a 'hey?!?' moment?

Roundtable - half way through the game and only 1 Traitor found thus far. Opera Traitor playing defense whilst initiating conversation. Blue-eyed Teacher recalls that Call Center Traitor handed her a drink the previous night - was it a poisoned challis? All 3 murder targets get their edit time on figuring out how they were targeted or if they are a traitor amongst the sheep. Whoa - Pink Hair finally got air time while questioning Train Resolutionist. Soldier Barbie grilled about her claim she missed murder when she had a shield. Could have (and was) a missed recruitment. 3-way nominations. Traitor on Traitor vote. Opera Traitor found. And the crowd goes wild!

1 Traitor remains - has to use an ultimatum. Join or be murdered. Will it be Soldier Barbie as surmised previously? Has more suspicion on her now.

Conclave: Ultimatum will be face-to-face - nice. She will select a female. WIll it be Director, Interior Designer, or Priest? Guess I was wrong on Soldier Barbie.

Call Center Traitor waits for Director to show up - to be murdered in person or to discuss the night's murder together?

Ep 8
'Welsh' speaking Director accepts. Get her a cloak. First act - murder someone. No one has a shield. Nominees: Priest, Blue-eyed Teacher, or Project Manager who had Opera Traitor pegged from day 1 and finally got her banished. Blue-eyed Teacher taken out as a long lasting target (refused recruitment, game of death, etc) - and calls out Call Center Traitor in the final confessional.

Soldier Barbie feels game-hubby Retail Sales is turning a cold shoulder all of a sudden. Brown-eyed Teacher agrees in seeing changes.
Pink Hair gets in some more air time, lots this episode - says he's opinionated, but none of the opinions made the edits so far (8th episode in !). LOL Priest implying that he's next to go 'even though her vote won't matter'. I'm still wondering why he got a couple votes a few episodes ago.

Random talks center around Train Resolutionist (someone on the train HAS to be a traitor), Retail Sales (sudden changes in behavior), and Pink Hair (no idea why). All males - which could make sense though they haven't mentioned it yet - both traitors found were female, so odds are 1 is male (wrong).

Mission - Split into 2 teams - woods team can get a shield (found by Project Manager and they agree to not say who has it so all 5 are safe). 4 Twisted dolls sing nursery rhymes backwards for the woods team that have a creepy cabin full of dolls. Listen and mimic the sounds back to the castle team. Castle team plays reverse on gramophone to hear the rhyme forwards and identify the song, relay back to woods team to lock the answer in.

Pink Hair's episode. He may have slipped up his game when saying that Opera Traitor hasn't voted for any other traitor when that would have only been 1 person. Only a traitor knows who the others are and if they voted against each other. Threat level rising. Pink Hairs says he's done it a few times - saying the wrong thing in the wrong context. Didn't vote for Opera Traitor the night before.

Roundtable - Pink Hair in the crosshairs. Oooh, Priest in lining them up - points towards both Call Center Traitor and Director Traitor. Noice! But also lines up Retail Sales - d'oh. Soldier Barbie queries her game-hubby Retail Sales and he defends. Tongue-twisted Faithful Pink Hair cost himself his game.

Interior Designer is eyed as the instigator against Pink Hair. Showering Student is on to Call Center Traitor while talking at Director Traitor. Not going to warn her partner in crime.

Conclave: 5 safe by shield, limited players when the traitors are part of the unsafe group - 4 options. Or take the chance at missing the shield? Priest, Project Manager, or Brown-Eyed Teacher?
Call Center Traitor really likes her decision to bring on Director Traitor. Director Traitor has traitor blood on her mind.

Ep 9
Killed off the Priest, the most faith-ful.
Interior Designer is being eyed for possible fake acting. Call Center Traitor still buzzing positively about Director Traitor, whilst Director Traitor mentions her to others outside as a possible traitor.

Mission - 4-5ft tall and heavy Stone heads with their names on them litter the ground. Body torsos as well. Build 5 statues in a field at the top of the nearby hill. A plinth on the hill has a shield - who will be put on it to get protection? The next malady story, Project Manager has cerebral palsy and has a hard time carrying heavy things due to the lack of motor skills. Soldier Barbie undecided if she should show she's fit or fake not being able to do an exercise she's done many times in the military. 'Struggles' a little with the body with Retail Sales, then single handedly goes up the hill with her head that's her height balanced on 1 shoulder. LOL Short man Train Resolutionist helped carry 3 torsos. Showering Student makes multiple pleas for the shield (got on the raft and never had a shield) and gets the group vote.

Conversations in the car and in the castle about Soldier Barbie carrying her 'own' statue head - looking selfish. Retail Sales is taking his gloves off to fight and plans on shaking up the roundtable. Project Manager names the 2 traitors in his 3 most faithful people. Oops. Brown-eyed Teacher confused why he didn't get more votes for the shield - particularly Retail Sales.

Roundtable - Retail Sales lets loose causing some retaliation. Interior Designer fires back at multiple concerns. Train Resolutionist is back in the line of sight for multiple. Call Center Traitor getting some heat from the embers Traitor Director stoked earlier (who is nervous she gets mentioned during the grilling). Don't think it's her time to win votes yet. Close one vs Interior Designer, 5-4, Faithful Retail Sales drew too many eyes his way.

Showering Student still thinks it's Call Center Traitor.
Host gives them a dinner party that no one is in the mood for. Stories about how they would use the winnings and their personal life bring them together. No gameplay at dinner.

From 25 at the start to 6 Faithful, 2 Traitors and a murder yet to come.

Conclave: Showering Student is shielded. Project Manager, Brown-Eyed Teacher, or Soldier Barbie?
No more recruitment time left before finale.

Call Center Traitor "I think we should share the money 2 ways."
Non-verbally Director Traitor gives a little side-eye and adjusts her bottom jaw in disagreement and they edit out her response comment.

Traitor on Traitor bloodshed is going down...
 
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Not a lot of Silo buzz in here... But it's one show I'm eager to see each week. Some of the story telling is frustrating to me in terms of focusing on one story line vs another and stretching things to the point where I want them to move it along. But over all I'm engaged and wanting see what happens next. Great world building too
Big fan but you're correct, there isn't a lot of buzz for the show in here. I read the series a few years ago so seeing it brought to the screen has been fun. I'm not usually one that remembers the nuances between book and TV/Movie so as long as it follows along with the plot pretty closely, I'm good. Enjoying it and sad that we have to hope for a season 3 now, it's just getting to the good stuff.
I'm pretty sure Apple committed to 4 seasons.
That's awesome! Current pace I don't think they tell the full story but you'll get through to the meat of it by then. Hopefully it gains a little more traction so they can finish it out from there.
I think likely the bulk of "Shift" will not get told in the show, but I could be wrong. I think we'll get just the broad strokes.
And.... after watching the finale, I'm probably wrong. Good season I thought, pretty faithful to the book. My biggest gripe continues to be the silo itself and how easily everyone moves around it.
 
Silo season 2 was pretty good. It's been so long since I've read the books I'm not sure how much they are deviating.
I just finished the book series and there is a decent amount of deviation, but I think they are being smart about it by tweaking things that may not play well on screen. The overall story arc hasn't really changed much though. Given the pace of the show I don't see how they finish in just two more seasons without trimming a lot of material.

The book series was fantastic.
 
We had been watching The Agency, and I couldn't remember why we didn't finish or continue. Because ****ing Paramount won't let us. Freezes up in that show only every time we try.
 
We had been watching The Agency, and I couldn't remember why we didn't finish or continue. Because ****ing Paramount won't let us. Freezes up in that show only every time we try.
Paramount is the only streaming service I have problems with almost every time I watch. Freezing,glitching,buffering, logging me out etc.
 
We had been watching The Agency, and I couldn't remember why we didn't finish or continue. Because ****ing Paramount won't let us. Freezes up in that show only every time we try.
Paramount is the only streaming service I have problems with almost every time I watch. Freezing,glitching,buffering, logging me out etc.
Paramount by far, was my worst streaming service when it comes to freezing on my tv. Tried all the tricks and nothing worked. I made one change a year ago and i can honestly say it hasnt frozen since. Bought a Cat5e Ethernet cable for 7 bucks. All other devices are obviously Wi-Fi, but I hard cabled my TV to my router/modem combo. I have 7 streaming services and it's been a long time since I had anything freeze on my TV.
 
If anyone is interested in participating, we're doing a FBG Consensus Greatest TV Shows of all time thread. You submit a ranked list, and the overall list will be counted down. Could end up being a good "What should I watch next?" resource for this thread.

We did this already. We did a draft.
Sounds lame
 
For those that like shows like Criminal Minds or hunting down serial killers, a new show has it's first episode out.
The Hunting Party

A high-concept crime procedural about a small team of investigators who are assembled to track down and capture the most dangerous killers our country has ever seen, all of whom have just escaped from a top-secret prison that’s not supposed to exist.
Sounds interesting, but im going with the assumption that if it’s on network TV and the main characters name is Rebecca "Bex" Henderson its going to suck badly
 
We had been watching The Agency, and I couldn't remember why we didn't finish or continue. Because ****ing Paramount won't let us. Freezes up in that show only every time we try.
Paramount is the only streaming service I have problems with almost every time I watch. Freezing,glitching,buffering, logging me out etc.
Paramount by far, was my worst streaming service when it comes to freezing on my tv. Tried all the tricks and nothing worked. I made one change a year ago and i can honestly say it hasnt frozen since. Bought a Cat5e Ethernet cable for 7 bucks. All other devices are obviously Wi-Fi, but I hard cabled my TV to my router/modem combo. I have 7 streaming services and it's been a long time since I had anything freeze on my TV.

I was going to quote all of this and then add one of my own posts from the past complaining about Paramount Plus in solidarity, but when I searched my posts I found about a dozen or so going back three ****ing years complaining about how garbage that service is and I couldn’t decide which one to pick. I’m not sure I’ve complained about anything more often than Paramount Plus and I was a regular in the Politics forum. :lmao:
 
Not a lot of Silo buzz in here... But it's one show I'm eager to see each week. Some of the story telling is frustrating to me in terms of focusing on one story line vs another and stretching things to the point where I want them to move it along. But over all I'm engaged and wanting see what happens next. Great world building too
Big fan but you're correct, there isn't a lot of buzz for the show in here. I read the series a few years ago so seeing it brought to the screen has been fun. I'm not usually one that remembers the nuances between book and TV/Movie so as long as it follows along with the plot pretty closely, I'm good. Enjoying it and sad that we have to hope for a season 3 now, it's just getting to the good stuff.
I'm pretty sure Apple committed to 4 seasons.
That's awesome! Current pace I don't think they tell the full story but you'll get through to the meat of it by then. Hopefully it gains a little more traction so they can finish it out from there.
I think likely the bulk of "Shift" will not get told in the show, but I could be wrong. I think we'll get just the broad strokes.
And.... after watching the finale, I'm probably wrong. Good season I thought, pretty faithful to the book. My biggest gripe continues to be the silo itself and how easily everyone moves around it.
Interesting. As a non reader, my takeaway is that they show there's a hierarchy based on up/down... But yeah, being limited in moving from to other isn't highlighted. They make mention over the 2 seasons about not doing it often, but it fel more like people were just busy... Like me not going to times square or the upper West side much.
 
We had been watching The Agency, and I couldn't remember why we didn't finish or continue. Because ****ing Paramount won't let us. Freezes up in that show only every time we try.
Paramount is the only streaming service I have problems with almost every time I watch. Freezing,glitching,buffering, logging me out etc.
Paramount by far, was my worst streaming service when it comes to freezing on my tv. Tried all the tricks and nothing worked. I made one change a year ago and i can honestly say it hasnt frozen since. Bought a Cat5e Ethernet cable for 7 bucks. All other devices are obviously Wi-Fi, but I hard cabled my TV to my router/modem combo. I have 7 streaming services and it's been a long time since I had anything freeze on my TV.
Had an episode of Only Murders freeze up the other day and no matter what I did I couldn't get it to continue on the firestick. Exited and tried again, force stopped the app, powered off/rebooted the firestick. Nothing worked. Got out the laptop and connected it by HDMI and finished. Pretty weird...
 
We had been watching The Agency, and I couldn't remember why we didn't finish or continue. Because ****ing Paramount won't let us. Freezes up in that show only every time we try.
Paramount is the only streaming service I have problems with almost every time I watch. Freezing,glitching,buffering, logging me out etc.
Paramount by far, was my worst streaming service when it comes to freezing on my tv. Tried all the tricks and nothing worked. I made one change a year ago and i can honestly say it hasnt frozen since. Bought a Cat5e Ethernet cable for 7 bucks. All other devices are obviously Wi-Fi, but I hard cabled my TV to my router/modem combo. I have 7 streaming services and it's been a long time since I had anything freeze on my TV.
Had an episode of Only Murders freeze up the other day and no matter what I did I couldn't get it to continue on the firestick. Exited and tried again, force stopped the app, powered off/rebooted the firestick. Nothing worked. Got out the laptop and connected it by HDMI and finished. Pretty weird...
Ours is tv isolated too.
 
We had been watching The Agency, and I couldn't remember why we didn't finish or continue. Because ****ing Paramount won't let us. Freezes up in that show only every time we try.
Paramount is the only streaming service I have problems with almost every time I watch. Freezing,glitching,buffering, logging me out etc.
Paramount by far, was my worst streaming service when it comes to freezing on my tv. Tried all the tricks and nothing worked. I made one change a year ago and i can honestly say it hasnt frozen since. Bought a Cat5e Ethernet cable for 7 bucks. All other devices are obviously Wi-Fi, but I hard cabled my TV to my router/modem combo. I have 7 streaming services and it's been a long time since I had anything freeze on my TV.
Had an episode of Only Murders freeze up the other day and no matter what I did I couldn't get it to continue on the firestick. Exited and tried again, force stopped the app, powered off/rebooted the firestick. Nothing worked. Got out the laptop and connected it by HDMI and finished. Pretty weird...
Ours is tv isolated too.
Odd thing of course was any/everything else, including the next episode of OM, played fine. Just that episode at that point was stuck. It was stuck on trying to play an ad; laptop has ad blockers so it plays ad free no matter how hard Hulu tries.
 
Not a lot of Silo buzz in here... But it's one show I'm eager to see each week. Some of the story telling is frustrating to me in terms of focusing on one story line vs another and stretching things to the point where I want them to move it along. But over all I'm engaged and wanting see what happens next. Great world building too
Big fan but you're correct, there isn't a lot of buzz for the show in here. I read the series a few years ago so seeing it brought to the screen has been fun. I'm not usually one that remembers the nuances between book and TV/Movie so as long as it follows along with the plot pretty closely, I'm good. Enjoying it and sad that we have to hope for a season 3 now, it's just getting to the good stuff.
I'm pretty sure Apple committed to 4 seasons.
That's awesome! Current pace I don't think they tell the full story but you'll get through to the meat of it by then. Hopefully it gains a little more traction so they can finish it out from there.
I think likely the bulk of "Shift" will not get told in the show, but I could be wrong. I think we'll get just the broad strokes.
And.... after watching the finale, I'm probably wrong. Good season I thought, pretty faithful to the book. My biggest gripe continues to be the silo itself and how easily everyone moves around it.
Interesting. As a non reader, my takeaway is that they show there's a hierarchy based on up/down... But yeah, being limited in moving from to other isn't highlighted. They make mention over the 2 seasons about not doing it often, but it fel more like people were just busy... Like me not going to times square or the upper West side much.
At the risk of trying not to spoil things, as @Nick Vermeil pointed out, the silo is around 140 floors. It takes a long time to go from top to bottom and they seemingly do it at will but it's just time suspension for the sake of telling the story. I don't think you hold the audience if you just show people endlessly walking up and down steps. It takes a long time to get from Point A to Point B so there aren't a lot of upward or downward movement. You're kinda born into your life in the silo. Occasionally they move but yes, it is rare.

Everyone in the silo has a purpose and the delicate equilibrium is managed (lottery to be able to have a kid) very closely for the good of the silo. Everyone has a daily focus but there is an under riding theme that the silo must survive above all. You see what happens when the needs of the few outweigh the needs of the many in the silo next door.
 
Not a lot of Silo buzz in here... But it's one show I'm eager to see each week. Some of the story telling is frustrating to me in terms of focusing on one story line vs another and stretching things to the point where I want them to move it along. But over all I'm engaged and wanting see what happens next. Great world building too
Big fan but you're correct, there isn't a lot of buzz for the show in here. I read the series a few years ago so seeing it brought to the screen has been fun. I'm not usually one that remembers the nuances between book and TV/Movie so as long as it follows along with the plot pretty closely, I'm good. Enjoying it and sad that we have to hope for a season 3 now, it's just getting to the good stuff.
I'm pretty sure Apple committed to 4 seasons.
That's awesome! Current pace I don't think they tell the full story but you'll get through to the meat of it by then. Hopefully it gains a little more traction so they can finish it out from there.
I think likely the bulk of "Shift" will not get told in the show, but I could be wrong. I think we'll get just the broad strokes.
And.... after watching the finale, I'm probably wrong. Good season I thought, pretty faithful to the book. My biggest gripe continues to be the silo itself and how easily everyone moves around it.
Interesting. As a non reader, my takeaway is that they show there's a hierarchy based on up/down... But yeah, being limited in moving from to other isn't highlighted. They make mention over the 2 seasons about not doing it often, but it fel more like people were just busy... Like me not going to times square or the upper West side much.
At the risk of trying not to spoil things, as @Nick Vermeil pointed out, the silo is around 140 floors. It takes a long time to go from top to bottom and they seemingly do it at will but it's just time suspension for the sake of telling the story. I don't think you hold the audience if you just show people endlessly walking up and down steps. It takes a long time to get from Point A to Point B so there aren't a lot of upward or downward movement. You're kinda born into your life in the silo. Occasionally they move but yes, it is rare.

Everyone in the silo has a purpose and the delicate equilibrium is managed (lottery to be able to have a kid) very closely for the good of the silo. Everyone has a daily focus but there is an under riding theme that the silo must survive above all. You see what happens when the needs of the few outweigh the needs of the many in the silo next door.
Correct. Obviously they can't show someone walking 140 floors, but I wish they did a better job of depicting the scale. The couriers can move quickly from floor to floor but others don't move great distances too often. It the first book when the mayor travels down to meet Juliet, they have a couple of nights where they have to camp in order to get to the bottom. The world building was better. When the lower or mids come up top or the uptoppers arrive in mechanical, it matters more.

I have a similar complaint about House of the Dragon where characters just pop up at a different castle whenever they need to. A small nitpick in both cases but one that could be solved differently by the show runners IMHO.
 
Not a lot of Silo buzz in here... But it's one show I'm eager to see each week. Some of the story telling is frustrating to me in terms of focusing on one story line vs another and stretching things to the point where I want them to move it along. But over all I'm engaged and wanting see what happens next. Great world building too
Big fan but you're correct, there isn't a lot of buzz for the show in here. I read the series a few years ago so seeing it brought to the screen has been fun. I'm not usually one that remembers the nuances between book and TV/Movie so as long as it follows along with the plot pretty closely, I'm good. Enjoying it and sad that we have to hope for a season 3 now, it's just getting to the good stuff.
I'm pretty sure Apple committed to 4 seasons.
That's awesome! Current pace I don't think they tell the full story but you'll get through to the meat of it by then. Hopefully it gains a little more traction so they can finish it out from there.
I think likely the bulk of "Shift" will not get told in the show, but I could be wrong. I think we'll get just the broad strokes.
And.... after watching the finale, I'm probably wrong. Good season I thought, pretty faithful to the book. My biggest gripe continues to be the silo itself and how easily everyone moves around it.
Interesting. As a non reader, my takeaway is that they show there's a hierarchy based on up/down... But yeah, being limited in moving from to other isn't highlighted. They make mention over the 2 seasons about not doing it often, but it fel more like people were just busy... Like me not going to times square or the upper West side much.
At the risk of trying not to spoil things, as @Nick Vermeil pointed out, the silo is around 140 floors. It takes a long time to go from top to bottom and they seemingly do it at will but it's just time suspension for the sake of telling the story. I don't think you hold the audience if you just show people endlessly walking up and down steps. It takes a long time to get from Point A to Point B so there aren't a lot of upward or downward movement. You're kinda born into your life in the silo. Occasionally they move but yes, it is rare.

Everyone in the silo has a purpose and the delicate equilibrium is managed (lottery to be able to have a kid) very closely for the good of the silo. Everyone has a daily focus but there is an under riding theme that the silo must survive above all. You see what happens when the needs of the few outweigh the needs of the many in the silo next door.

Thanks!
Tbh, I feel like the show conveys all of that to a non reader. They make a point of certain characters from below or up top looking around curiously when they invert.. and some of them needing rests along the way. Iirc, one of the trips (maybe the sheriff heading down) in S1 had discussion around what to pack for it? I can see how the book reality of walking from essentially the lobby to the top of the Burj Khalifa is extreme and that the show needs to truncate that for time reasons.
 
Beast Games Ep 6

Resumes showing the 2 battling for the island. 1 wins and continues on for the $5mil to go with their $1.8mil island. The other is eliminated.

52 remain - at least half will be going home

The 52 get to decide which of 3 groups they want to compete in:
1. Physical (17)
2. Mental (19)
3. Chance (16)
Pretty even on the groups.

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2. Mental
- Everyone sits at school desks - to take a 15 minute test (20 questions) to find out who's the smartest and the least. Odd number of players means least smartest is eliminated. (was wondering if any went straight to the last page to see if there was a twist or key). Seemed like a third to half finished it. Someone got 19 of 20. Second place had 17. Last place... eliminated.

- Head to head trivia - #1 picks their opponent and the category and so on down the line. #1 lost to the lowest scorer. LOL There was a nice battle about ethical play that makes good TV.
9 remain

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3. Chance
- Spin a wheel to determine how many get eliminated. Could be 0 and all move on. Could be all 16. Unlucky - 12 will be eliminated (it hovered towards 14 and swung back a notch). Prior to participants picking a platform (same as Ep 1) to stand on, show runners ran bingo balls to pick the drop order of the platforms. Every 5 trapdoors, they can move if they want. Hope you picked the last 4 bingo balls!
4 remain (includes the island winner)

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1. Physical
- Push-ups to decide 2 captains
- School yard pick their teams - 1 extra means they get eliminated. Two teams (Orange and Pink) will compete in 3 categories:

- Strength - pull a monster truck down a course with a large speed bump in it. Orange had a big lead but neither made it over the speed bump on the first try. Tied up. Orange team gets it over the speed bump... but there are 4 tires and not enough momentum. 2nd set of tires stuck. Pink team figures out how to create force with their midsections and legs instead of arms and takes the lead. Come from behind win. 1-0 Pink

- Speed - 1vs1 sprint to grab flags. Each flag is further than the previous. First team to 5 wins. Orange dominates 5-1. Tied 1-1

- Stamina - 1 representative for each team hangs from a bar 40 feet in the air. Loser's team is eliminated. Grammy Award Winner that won push-ups (no other nominee) vs guy practicing hang time for Survivor (got himself chosen over a Rock Climber). 1 steady and 1 squirmer... end of episode. 8 will remain


Yellow Lambo next episode.
21 will remain in the battle for $5mil
Beast Games Ep 7
As expected - Squirmer falls and eliminated his team. 21 remain.

Remaining people nominate a leader - guy that intentionally went in to the Mental game to take out 1 of 2 brothers that played a psychological game against a 3rd person earlier in the game. Ripped the opponent with his speech and then wins. People feel he's highly ethical.

They are all observed to see who they eat with, sit with, and talk to.

- The 'Trolley Problem' dilemma
Ethical guy has to choose 3 of his least favorite participants. Chose the island winner and 2 he hasn't spoken to. All females so there's that rumbling.
One 1 track are 3 boxing pads with their # on them and on the other track is the yellow lambo - that is now his as leader.
Let a real train hit the 3 dummies or have train on lambo violence? Kinda agree with him that people are going to get eliminated either way, may as well take the car. 3 eliminated. Island winner has been vocal about anyone other than her being a leader - refusing to vote for others. Rips into him of course.

Rinse and repeat until 10 are left. People 'volunteer' to be the next leader - 3 volunteers and voted 15-3 for the Lambo winner to do it again. Gets to pick his next 3 least liked people. Next car was a Tesla with $100k in the trunk (participants were not told).
Twist - move those 3 to the car tracks and add his closest ally to the other track. Now choose if you want the car +3 over 1 friend. Friend wins, 3 eliminated, no $, and train on Tesla violence - smash!
Volunteers = 2 this time and Lambo winner loses 8-5. You know what's coming - Lambo guy and his buddy get on the tracks. They add a mystery jersey to that group (could be any remaining - 2nd closest friend or her own jersey?). Other track is her bestie. Bestie wins. She eliminated her own jersey.
Volunteers = 1, before they are told the Leader will automatically advance - now 3. Unanimous vote. One was the early episode leader to turn down $1mil to save his entire group. He's asking everyone individually if they are ready to step up. Guess what buddy, no votes this time around, you're in the 2 people to go up for elimination - one on each track. Other person is the 3rd to step up for votes in a surprise nomination - feels that 1 track is going to be safe. Already told this is the final Trolley Problem and 2 have to go. Hmmm. Twist - each on a track picks someone else to stand with them. Better choose her bestie! (and have everyone pissed at you).

Love the use of the Trolley Problem / Dilemma
10 will remain
 
Not a lot of Silo buzz in here... But it's one show I'm eager to see each week. Some of the story telling is frustrating to me in terms of focusing on one story line vs another and stretching things to the point where I want them to move it along. But over all I'm engaged and wanting see what happens next. Great world building too
Big fan but you're correct, there isn't a lot of buzz for the show in here. I read the series a few years ago so seeing it brought to the screen has been fun. I'm not usually one that remembers the nuances between book and TV/Movie so as long as it follows along with the plot pretty closely, I'm good. Enjoying it and sad that we have to hope for a season 3 now, it's just getting to the good stuff.
I'm pretty sure Apple committed to 4 seasons.
That's awesome! Current pace I don't think they tell the full story but you'll get through to the meat of it by then. Hopefully it gains a little more traction so they can finish it out from there.
I think likely the bulk of "Shift" will not get told in the show, but I could be wrong. I think we'll get just the broad strokes.
And.... after watching the finale, I'm probably wrong. Good season I thought, pretty faithful to the book. My biggest gripe continues to be the silo itself and how easily everyone moves around it.
Interesting. As a non reader, my takeaway is that they show there's a hierarchy based on up/down... But yeah, being limited in moving from to other isn't highlighted. They make mention over the 2 seasons about not doing it often, but it fel more like people were just busy... Like me not going to times square or the upper West side much.
At the risk of trying not to spoil things, as @Nick Vermeil pointed out, the silo is around 140 floors. It takes a long time to go from top to bottom and they seemingly do it at will but it's just time suspension for the sake of telling the story. I don't think you hold the audience if you just show people endlessly walking up and down steps. It takes a long time to get from Point A to Point B so there aren't a lot of upward or downward movement. You're kinda born into your life in the silo. Occasionally they move but yes, it is rare.

Everyone in the silo has a purpose and the delicate equilibrium is managed (lottery to be able to have a kid) very closely for the good of the silo. Everyone has a daily focus but there is an under riding theme that the silo must survive above all. You see what happens when the needs of the few outweigh the needs of the many in the silo next door.

Thanks!
Tbh, I feel like the show conveys all of that to a non reader. They make a point of certain characters from below or up top looking around curiously when they invert.. and some of them needing rests along the way. Iirc, one of the trips (maybe the sheriff heading down) in S1 had discussion around what to pack for it? I can see how the book reality of walking from essentially the lobby to the top of the Burj Khalifa is extreme and that the show needs to truncate that for time reasons.
This may be an unpopular opinion amongst the book readers, but I think the show does a better job portraying the scale of the silo than the books even though they fast forward through a lot of the travel time that happens. This is one of those small deviations from the books that I think is smart as it wouldn't play well on screen.
 
We finished up American Primeval last night. It was a good show, particularly the way it depicted life in the American west in the 1850s. That said, the violence was a bit much, which is really saying something. I can't recall the last time I watched a show or movie and thought "they really need to dial the violence back a bit." This may have been a first for me. I feel like the target audience for this show was people who spend way too much time watching Ukranian war footage, and I'm honestly not kidding about that.
 
We finished up American Primeval last night. It was a good show, particularly the way it depicted life in the American west in the 1850s. That said, the violence was a bit much, which is really saying something. I can't recall the last time I watched a show or movie and thought "they really need to dial the violence back a bit." This may have been a first for me. I feel like the target audience for this show was people who spend way too much time watching Ukranian war footage, and I'm honestly not kidding about that.
My review above was in line with this. I have to imagine the violence deters like 95% of potential viewers.
 
We finished up American Primeval last night. It was a good show, particularly the way it depicted life in the American west in the 1850s. That said, the violence was a bit much, which is really saying something. I can't recall the last time I watched a show or movie and thought "they really need to dial the violence back a bit." This may have been a first for me. I feel like the target audience for this show was people who spend way too much time watching Ukranian war footage, and I'm honestly not kidding about that.
Well if you've spent any time watching Ukrainian war footage, Hollywood doesn't do it justice meaning it's a lot worse up close and personal in reality. That said, they didn't pull any punches with this one. Similar to 1883's portrayal of how tough life actually was during that time period, I suspect it's closer to reality than we'd like to admit. Not for the feint of heart but the folks who pushed West were pretty hardcore. Think about what was being asked of the folks who decided to undertake the journey, pack up everything you own and travel a couple thousand miles over unexplored terrain while dealing with hostile Indian tribes trying desperately to hang on to their way of life, marauders who had no law to fear and mother nature just being a ***** every step of the way. Then, just when you're almost there you run into a zealot that is trying to set up his kingdom. The massacre that has everyone upset actually happened.

Hollywood has done a good job making death a lot easier to deal with than it is in reality. These shows that make it a little more realistic are shocking to our subdued sensibilities but if you've ever rolled up on a car wreck with a casualty you know death isn't pretty or easy. Not saying I look for this stuff but when I see it, it doesn't put me off too much. I appreciate the realism.
 

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