***Super Bowl LVIII - San Francisco 49'ers 14-5 vs Kansas City Chiefs 14-6*** (+2, 47.5) Chiefs are World Champions 25-22 in Overtime (1 Viewer)

[ShamrockPride]

Kelce sounds like he has CTE.. I fear for Taylor

Sounded more like a wrestling promo.

 

[karl.Racki]

Kelce will announce retirement

NFL won't allow it as long as he's still dating Taylor anyway.

I bet they break up by the draft..

 

[Anarchy99]

SF has come up just short now a couple times vs Mahomes and the Chiefs
3 seconds left in Overtime up 22-19, that's going to be a very hard pill to swallow for that team

the game would have continued into another quarter

That's not what @Anarchy99 says
I'd like clarity on this because if that's true as you say Mitchie, there's no real reason for the game clock to be on

They completely changed the OT rules and it is now set up like the first quarter and second quarter. Had the time run out, they would have switched sides and kept playing and 2OT would
have been played like the second quarter with a two minute warning if it got that far.

LINK

I thought they only changed the rules for the first possession.

 

[BroncoFreak_2K3]

Kelce will announce retirement

NFL won't allow it as long as he's still dating Taylor anyway.

I bet they break up by the draft..

Breakup album in 3.2.1…

 

[Joe Bryant]

What a game

 

[The Gator]

I feel bad for @Wingnut @Hot Sauce Guy
There's other big SF fans on here but those guys are there every week throughout
I'm sure you all will be in the mix again next year

There’s always next year.

Lost to Mahomes happens to a lot of teams.

Can’t blame it on Moody. Can’t blame it on Shanny. Can’t blame it on defense.

Hell of a game. One for the ages.

Outside of Gabe Davis thread, i love your posts gb . Congrats on a great year.

 

[fred_1_15301]

Should’ve kicked to start OT

I almost wonder if the player didn't know the rules. Such an egregious mistake to take the ball.

What is the rule, couldn’t KC have gone done and scored a TD and ended it without SF getting a touch?

No both teams were getting a possession. I’d rather know what I need and if I’m in 4 down

Especially with Mahomes as the QB. Egregious mistake by the Niners. That's on their coaches for not preparing the players for that coin toss.

As they mentioned on the broadcast, I think the defense was gassed.

That's fine but you still have to play the best odds right? Give the Chiefs the ball first and if they go down and score a TD at least you know you are always in 4 down territory. There is absolutely no reason to take the ball first with the current rules. It probably cost them the game.

Of course there’s a reason to. If the Niners scored a TD and Chiefs matched then SF gets the ball back with a chance to win with a FG.

By taking the ball first, they guaranteed the Chiefs get an extra down on their final drive. They had to go for it on 4th. I would rather be in the position of knowing that I have to go for it on 4th.

 

[Joe Bryant]

I love Brady but Mahomes is the greatest player of all time.

Hes winning rings with Mecole Freaking Hardman and Marquez Valdes-Scantling

 

[DJackson10]

The 49ers are going to spend the next 6 months lobbying to change OT rules back to when opening drive field goals could win the game.

 

[Uncle Leo]

Congratulations Chief fans! Mahomes has made me root for you all. He’s my new MJ.

 

[AAABatteries]

Should’ve kicked to start OT

I almost wonder if the player didn't know the rules. Such an egregious mistake to take the ball.

What is the rule, couldn’t KC have gone done and scored a TD and ended it without SF getting a touch?

No both teams were getting a possession. I’d rather know what I need and if I’m in 4 down

Especially with Mahomes as the QB. Egregious mistake by the Niners. That's on their coaches for not preparing the players for that coin toss.

As they mentioned on the broadcast, I think the defense was gassed.

That's fine but you still have to play the best odds right? Give the Chiefs the ball first and if they go down and score a TD at least you know you are always in 4 down territory. There is absolutely no reason to take the ball first with the current rules. It probably cost them the game.

Of course there’s a reason to. If the Niners scored a TD and Chiefs matched then SF gets the ball back with a chance to win with a FG.

By taking the ball first, they guaranteed the Chiefs get an extra down on their final drive. They had to go for it on 4th. I would rather be in the position of knowing that I have to go for it on 4th.

I feel like you are ignoring the 3rd possession - I have no clue what the math will say but my gut tells me receiving is the right call.

 

[Joe Bryant]

Also, hope this puts to bed any talk remotely suggesting Purdy isn’t the surefire franchise QB they need to move forward with.

He was excellent.

 

[The Duff Man]

I love Brady but Mahomes is the greatest player of all time.

Hes winning rings with Mecole Freaking Hardman and Marquez Valdes-Scantling

Have to put him equal to Brady in the fact that they both got a ring due to their defence. Although Brady was more than one.

 

[Jayrod]

Should’ve kicked to start OT

I almost wonder if the player didn't know the rules. Such an egregious mistake to take the ball.

What is the rule, couldn’t KC have gone done and scored a TD and ended it without SF getting a touch?

No both teams were getting a possession. I’d rather know what I need and if I’m in 4 down

Especially with Mahomes as the QB. Egregious mistake by the Niners. That's on their coaches for not preparing the players for that coin toss.

As they mentioned on the broadcast, I think the defense was gassed.

That's fine but you still have to play the best odds right? Give the Chiefs the ball first and if they go down and score a TD at least you know you are always in 4 down territory. There is absolutely no reason to take the ball first with the current rules. It probably cost them the game.

Of course there’s a reason to. If the Niners scored a TD and Chiefs matched then SF gets the ball back with a chance to win with a FG.

By taking the ball first, they guaranteed the Chiefs get an extra down on their final drive. They had to go for it on 4th. I would rather be in the position of knowing that I have to go for it on 4th.

I feel like you are ignoring the 3rd possession - I have no clue what the math will say but my gut tells me receiving is the right call.

I feel like knowing what you need on your 1st possession is a huge advantage, just like college.

 

[karl.Racki]

Also, hope this puts to bed any talk remotely suggesting Purdy isn’t the surefire franchise QB they need to move forward with.

He was excellent.

Yeppers, second best QB today

 

[belljr]

I'm just glad I can end the night on a new Curb

 

[Mitchie]

I love Brady but Mahomes is the greatest player of all time.

Hes winning rings with Mecole Freaking Hardman and Marquez Valdes-Scantling

Those are like his 5th and 6th options, Brady's weapons a lot of years were no different.

 

[AAABatteries]

Should’ve kicked to start OT

I almost wonder if the player didn't know the rules. Such an egregious mistake to take the ball.

What is the rule, couldn’t KC have gone done and scored a TD and ended it without SF getting a touch?

No both teams were getting a possession. I’d rather know what I need and if I’m in 4 down

Especially with Mahomes as the QB. Egregious mistake by the Niners. That's on their coaches for not preparing the players for that coin toss.

As they mentioned on the broadcast, I think the defense was gassed.

That's fine but you still have to play the best odds right? Give the Chiefs the ball first and if they go down and score a TD at least you know you are always in 4 down territory. There is absolutely no reason to take the ball first with the current rules. It probably cost them the game.

Of course there’s a reason to. If the Niners scored a TD and Chiefs matched then SF gets the ball back with a chance to win with a FG.

By taking the ball first, they guaranteed the Chiefs get an extra down on their final drive. They had to go for it on 4th. I would rather be in the position of knowing that I have to go for it on 4th.

I feel like you are ignoring the 3rd possession - I have no clue what the math will say but my gut tells me receiving is the right call.

I feel like knowing what you need on your 1st possession is a huge advantage, just like collefe.

What if SF scored a TD?

 

[FreeBaGeL]

I love Brady but Mahomes is the greatest player of all time.

Hes winning rings with Mecole Freaking Hardman and Marquez Valdes-Scantling

Well, and the greatest TE in NFL history and one of the best offensive playcallers ever.

I'm a big Mahomes fan and agree he will probably end up the greatest, but it's not like Kelce/Rice/Hardman/MVS is worse than Daniel Graham/Troy Brown/Deion Branch/David Patten.

 

[fred_1_15301]

Should’ve kicked to start OT

I almost wonder if the player didn't know the rules. Such an egregious mistake to take the ball.

What is the rule, couldn’t KC have gone done and scored a TD and ended it without SF getting a touch?

No both teams were getting a possession. I’d rather know what I need and if I’m in 4 down

Especially with Mahomes as the QB. Egregious mistake by the Niners. That's on their coaches for not preparing the players for that coin toss.

As they mentioned on the broadcast, I think the defense was gassed.

That's fine but you still have to play the best odds right? Give the Chiefs the ball first and if they go down and score a TD at least you know you are always in 4 down territory. There is absolutely no reason to take the ball first with the current rules. It probably cost them the game.

Of course there’s a reason to. If the Niners scored a TD and Chiefs matched then SF gets the ball back with a chance to win with a FG.

By taking the ball first, they guaranteed the Chiefs get an extra down on their final drive. They had to go for it on 4th. I would rather be in the position of knowing that I have to go for it on 4th.

I feel like you are ignoring the 3rd possession - I have no clue what the math will say but my gut tells me receiving is the right call.

You might be right but I'm not ignoring the 3rd possession. That's irrelevant IMO. San Fran elects to receive in OT which means 4 options:

1. They go down and score a TD
2. They go down and kick a FG
3. They punt it back to the Chiefs
4. They turn the ball over

In scenarios 1 and 2, the Chiefs have an automatic extra 4th down play. That seems like a massive advantage to me. I'm not thinking ahead to a 3rd possession.

 

[Joe Bryant]

Nick Bolton sounds like the defensive coordinator on ESPN

 

[fred_1_15301]

Should’ve kicked to start OT

I almost wonder if the player didn't know the rules. Such an egregious mistake to take the ball.

What is the rule, couldn’t KC have gone done and scored a TD and ended it without SF getting a touch?

No both teams were getting a possession. I’d rather know what I need and if I’m in 4 down

Especially with Mahomes as the QB. Egregious mistake by the Niners. That's on their coaches for not preparing the players for that coin toss.

As they mentioned on the broadcast, I think the defense was gassed.

That's fine but you still have to play the best odds right? Give the Chiefs the ball first and if they go down and score a TD at least you know you are always in 4 down territory. There is absolutely no reason to take the ball first with the current rules. It probably cost them the game.

Of course there’s a reason to. If the Niners scored a TD and Chiefs matched then SF gets the ball back with a chance to win with a FG.

By taking the ball first, they guaranteed the Chiefs get an extra down on their final drive. They had to go for it on 4th. I would rather be in the position of knowing that I have to go for it on 4th.

I feel like you are ignoring the 3rd possession - I have no clue what the math will say but my gut tells me receiving is the right call.

I feel like knowing what you need on your 1st possession is a huge advantage, just like collefe.

What if SF scored a TD?

And so what? Then the Chiefs still have an extra automatic down.

 

[ignatiusjreilly]

Should’ve kicked to start OT

I almost wonder if the player didn't know the rules. Such an egregious mistake to take the ball.

What is the rule, couldn’t KC have gone done and scored a TD and ended it without SF getting a touch?

No both teams were getting a possession. I’d rather know what I need and if I’m in 4 down

Especially with Mahomes as the QB. Egregious mistake by the Niners. That's on their coaches for not preparing the players for that coin toss.

As they mentioned on the broadcast, I think the defense was gassed.

That's fine but you still have to play the best odds right? Give the Chiefs the ball first and if they go down and score a TD at least you know you are always in 4 down territory. There is absolutely no reason to take the ball first with the current rules. It probably cost them the game.

Of course there’s a reason to. If the Niners scored a TD and Chiefs matched then SF gets the ball back with a chance to win with a FG.

By taking the ball first, they guaranteed the Chiefs get an extra down on their final drive. They had to go for it on 4th. I would rather be in the position of knowing that I have to go for it on 4th.

I feel like you are ignoring the 3rd possession - I have no clue what the math will say but my gut tells me receiving is the right call.

I feel like knowing what you need on your 1st possession is a huge advantage, just like collefe.

What if SF scored a TD?

Then KC would have known they needed to score one to match.

I don’t know what the math says — maybe having the third possession with sudden death outweighs the value of knowing what you need on the second — but imagine the Niners kicked and both drives played out the same way. You don’t think Kyle would have liked to know that he should have gone for it on 4th and goal?

 

[Joe Bryant]

I love Brady but Mahomes is the greatest player of all time.

Hes winning rings with Mecole Freaking Hardman and Marquez Valdes-Scantling

Well, and the greatest TE in NFL history and one of the best offensive playcallers ever.

I'm a big Mahomes fan and agree he will probably end up the greatest, but it's not like Kelce/Rice/Hardman/MVS is worse than Daniel Graham/Troy Brown/Deion Branch/David Patten.

No worries. We'll disagree there. I think he's the greatest now. But I'm sure plenty will disagree.

 

[AAABatteries]

Should’ve kicked to start OT

I almost wonder if the player didn't know the rules. Such an egregious mistake to take the ball.

What is the rule, couldn’t KC have gone done and scored a TD and ended it without SF getting a touch?

No both teams were getting a possession. I’d rather know what I need and if I’m in 4 down

Especially with Mahomes as the QB. Egregious mistake by the Niners. That's on their coaches for not preparing the players for that coin toss.

As they mentioned on the broadcast, I think the defense was gassed.

That's fine but you still have to play the best odds right? Give the Chiefs the ball first and if they go down and score a TD at least you know you are always in 4 down territory. There is absolutely no reason to take the ball first with the current rules. It probably cost them the game.

Of course there’s a reason to. If the Niners scored a TD and Chiefs matched then SF gets the ball back with a chance to win with a FG.

By taking the ball first, they guaranteed the Chiefs get an extra down on their final drive. They had to go for it on 4th. I would rather be in the position of knowing that I have to go for it on 4th.

I feel like you are ignoring the 3rd possession - I have no clue what the math will say but my gut tells me receiving is the right call.

You might be right but I'm not ignoring the 3rd possession. That's irrelevant IMO. San Fran elects to receive in OT which means 4 options:

1. They go down and score a TD
2. They go down and kick a FG
3. They punt it back to the Chiefs
4. They turn the ball over

In scenarios 1 and 2, the Chiefs have an automatic extra 4th down play. That seems like a massive advantage to me. I'm not thinking ahead to a 3rd possession.

How often do you think the teams would match scores on their first drives? 25%? 50%?

I’m willing to be proven wrong (and I’m guessing anyway) but I’d want that possible 3rd possession to be mine.

 

[need2know]

Did no one pay attention when they explained the OT rules?

You mean when they said kc would win no matter what? Saw those rules before the game began

 

[FreeBaGeL]

I love Brady but Mahomes is the greatest player of all time.

Hes winning rings with Mecole Freaking Hardman and Marquez Valdes-Scantling

Well, and the greatest TE in NFL history and one of the best offensive playcallers ever.

I'm a big Mahomes fan and agree he will probably end up the greatest, but it's not like Kelce/Rice/Hardman/MVS is worse than Daniel Graham/Troy Brown/Deion Branch/David Patten.

No worries. We'll disagree there. I think he's the greatest now. But I'm sure plenty will disagree.

Totally a fair opinion and I think plenty would agree with your broader point. But the Hardman/MVS thing was a weird thing to focus on given that they also have one pretty good receiving option, another great receiving option, a great playcaller, AND that the guy you're making the direct comparison to won multiple Super Bowls with far worse receiving options.

 

[AAABatteries]

Should’ve kicked to start OT

I almost wonder if the player didn't know the rules. Such an egregious mistake to take the ball.

What is the rule, couldn’t KC have gone done and scored a TD and ended it without SF getting a touch?

No both teams were getting a possession. I’d rather know what I need and if I’m in 4 down

Especially with Mahomes as the QB. Egregious mistake by the Niners. That's on their coaches for not preparing the players for that coin toss.

As they mentioned on the broadcast, I think the defense was gassed.

That's fine but you still have to play the best odds right? Give the Chiefs the ball first and if they go down and score a TD at least you know you are always in 4 down territory. There is absolutely no reason to take the ball first with the current rules. It probably cost them the game.

Of course there’s a reason to. If the Niners scored a TD and Chiefs matched then SF gets the ball back with a chance to win with a FG.

By taking the ball first, they guaranteed the Chiefs get an extra down on their final drive. They had to go for it on 4th. I would rather be in the position of knowing that I have to go for it on 4th.

I feel like you are ignoring the 3rd possession - I have no clue what the math will say but my gut tells me receiving is the right call.

I feel like knowing what you need on your 1st possession is a huge advantage, just like collefe.

What if SF scored a TD?

Then KC would have known they needed to score one to match.

I don’t know what the math says — maybe having the third possession outweighs the value of knowing what you need on the second — but imagine the Niners kicked and both drives played out the same way. You don’t think Kyle would have liked to know that he should have gone for it on 4th and goal?

Yeah, I started this with saying it’s probably close but I think receiving is probably like 55/45 or something. In a simulation I’d assume you get to a 3rd possession probably 25-50% of the time. Whatever that percentage is I am the favorite.

 

[Dez]

Mahomes said if they won the toss they would have kicked it. I guess that makes sense because if the other team scores a TD you are going to go for 2 anyway.

The only drawback is the FG/FG thing though.

 

[AAABatteries]

Should’ve kicked to start OT

I almost wonder if the player didn't know the rules. Such an egregious mistake to take the ball.

What is the rule, couldn’t KC have gone done and scored a TD and ended it without SF getting a touch?

No both teams were getting a possession. I’d rather know what I need and if I’m in 4 down

Especially with Mahomes as the QB. Egregious mistake by the Niners. That's on their coaches for not preparing the players for that coin toss.

As they mentioned on the broadcast, I think the defense was gassed.

That's fine but you still have to play the best odds right? Give the Chiefs the ball first and if they go down and score a TD at least you know you are always in 4 down territory. There is absolutely no reason to take the ball first with the current rules. It probably cost them the game.

Of course there’s a reason to. If the Niners scored a TD and Chiefs matched then SF gets the ball back with a chance to win with a FG.

By taking the ball first, they guaranteed the Chiefs get an extra down on their final drive. They had to go for it on 4th. I would rather be in the position of knowing that I have to go for it on 4th.

I feel like you are ignoring the 3rd possession - I have no clue what the math will say but my gut tells me receiving is the right call.

I feel like knowing what you need on your 1st possession is a huge advantage, just like collefe.

What if SF scored a TD?

And so what? Then the Chiefs still have an extra automatic down.

Then unless KC goes for 2 I’m going to get the ball with a chance to kick a FG to win.

 

[AAABatteries]

Mahomes said if they won the toss they would have kicked it. I guess that makes sense because if the other team scores a TD you are going to go for 2 anyway.

The only drawback is the FG/FG thing though.

Would you go for 2? Defenses are gassed so maybe but I don’t think it’s automatic. Will be interesting to see if someone has run the numbers on this already.

 

[ignatiusjreilly]

Should’ve kicked to start OT

I almost wonder if the player didn't know the rules. Such an egregious mistake to take the ball.

What is the rule, couldn’t KC have gone done and scored a TD and ended it without SF getting a touch?

No both teams were getting a possession. I’d rather know what I need and if I’m in 4 down

Especially with Mahomes as the QB. Egregious mistake by the Niners. That's on their coaches for not preparing the players for that coin toss.

As they mentioned on the broadcast, I think the defense was gassed.

That's fine but you still have to play the best odds right? Give the Chiefs the ball first and if they go down and score a TD at least you know you are always in 4 down territory. There is absolutely no reason to take the ball first with the current rules. It probably cost them the game.

Of course there’s a reason to. If the Niners scored a TD and Chiefs matched then SF gets the ball back with a chance to win with a FG.

By taking the ball first, they guaranteed the Chiefs get an extra down on their final drive. They had to go for it on 4th. I would rather be in the position of knowing that I have to go for it on 4th.

I feel like you are ignoring the 3rd possession - I have no clue what the math will say but my gut tells me receiving is the right call.

I feel like knowing what you need on your 1st possession is a huge advantage, just like collefe.

What if SF scored a TD?

And so what? Then the Chiefs still have an extra automatic down.

Then unless KC goes for 2 I’m going to get the ball with a chance to kick a FG to win.

Yeah that’s the thing. KC is almost certainly going for two because you’d rather put the game in the hands of Mahomes rather than your gassed D. So you have to figure that into your calculations

 

[Joe Bryant]

with far worse receiving options.

No worries. We'll disagree there too. The fact they're winning with Rice as a #1 is amazing. But no worries. Different opinions are what makes the game fun.

Fun to be watching greatness like this.

 

[ignatiusjreilly]

Mahomes said if they won the toss they would have kicked it. I guess that makes sense because if the other team scores a TD you are going to go for 2 anyway.

The only drawback is the FG/FG thing though.

Would you go for 2? Defenses are gassed so maybe but I don’t think it’s automatic. Will be interesting to see if someone has run the numbers on this already.

WWMCDCD?

(Motor City Dan Campbell)

 

[fred_1_15301]

Should’ve kicked to start OT

I almost wonder if the player didn't know the rules. Such an egregious mistake to take the ball.

What is the rule, couldn’t KC have gone done and scored a TD and ended it without SF getting a touch?

No both teams were getting a possession. I’d rather know what I need and if I’m in 4 down

Especially with Mahomes as the QB. Egregious mistake by the Niners. That's on their coaches for not preparing the players for that coin toss.

As they mentioned on the broadcast, I think the defense was gassed.

That's fine but you still have to play the best odds right? Give the Chiefs the ball first and if they go down and score a TD at least you know you are always in 4 down territory. There is absolutely no reason to take the ball first with the current rules. It probably cost them the game.

Of course there’s a reason to. If the Niners scored a TD and Chiefs matched then SF gets the ball back with a chance to win with a FG.

By taking the ball first, they guaranteed the Chiefs get an extra down on their final drive. They had to go for it on 4th. I would rather be in the position of knowing that I have to go for it on 4th.

I feel like you are ignoring the 3rd possession - I have no clue what the math will say but my gut tells me receiving is the right call.

I feel like knowing what you need on your 1st possession is a huge advantage, just like collefe.

What if SF scored a TD?

And so what? Then the Chiefs still have an extra automatic down.

Then unless KC goes for 2 I’m going to get the ball with a chance to kick a FG to win.

100% I think KC goes for 2 there.

 

[Chaz McNulty]

I legit didn't even realize it was over. Great job talking heads.

They explained it like 45 times.

I had the volume off. Seriously though, they didn't declare a winner for like fifteen seconds.

Wait so you turned the volume off and then criticized the talking heads for not finding a way to communicate it to you while you had them muted?

EDIT: It was also written on the screen at the beginning of overtime, btw.

He had the picture off too.

 

[AAABatteries]

Should’ve kicked to start OT

I almost wonder if the player didn't know the rules. Such an egregious mistake to take the ball.

What is the rule, couldn’t KC have gone done and scored a TD and ended it without SF getting a touch?

No both teams were getting a possession. I’d rather know what I need and if I’m in 4 down

Especially with Mahomes as the QB. Egregious mistake by the Niners. That's on their coaches for not preparing the players for that coin toss.

As they mentioned on the broadcast, I think the defense was gassed.

That's fine but you still have to play the best odds right? Give the Chiefs the ball first and if they go down and score a TD at least you know you are always in 4 down territory. There is absolutely no reason to take the ball first with the current rules. It probably cost them the game.

Of course there’s a reason to. If the Niners scored a TD and Chiefs matched then SF gets the ball back with a chance to win with a FG.

By taking the ball first, they guaranteed the Chiefs get an extra down on their final drive. They had to go for it on 4th. I would rather be in the position of knowing that I have to go for it on 4th.

I feel like you are ignoring the 3rd possession - I have no clue what the math will say but my gut tells me receiving is the right call.

I feel like knowing what you need on your 1st possession is a huge advantage, just like collefe.

What if SF scored a TD?

And so what? Then the Chiefs still have an extra automatic down.

Then unless KC goes for 2 I’m going to get the ball with a chance to kick a FG to win.

Yeah that’s the thing. KC is almost certainly going for two because you’d rather put the game in the hands of Mahomes rather than your gassed D. So you have to figure that into your calculations

Ok, 51-49 receiving.

I‘ll say this - they’ve made it where it seems about as fair as it could be and much better than it’s been.

 

[Zow]

Mahomes said if they won the toss they would have kicked it. I guess that makes sense because if the other team scores a TD you are going to go for 2 anyway.

The only drawback is the FG/FG thing though.

Would you go for 2? Defenses are gassed so maybe but I don’t think it’s automatic. Will be interesting to see if someone has run the numbers on this already.

I would go for two. I also would elect to receive though for the fg fg scenario. Or, alternatively, a punt punt scenario I suppose. Either way there is a real possibility of a third possession even if the other team is going to go for two if you score a td first.

 

[loser]

Mahomes said if they won the toss they would have kicked it. I guess that makes sense because if the other team scores a TD you are going to go for 2 anyway.

The only drawback is the FG/FG thing though.

Would you go for 2? Defenses are gassed so maybe but I don’t think it’s automatic. Will be interesting to see if someone has run the numbers on this already.

WWMCDCD?

(Motor City Dan Campbell)

Start a new thread imo

 

[ignatiusjreilly]

Should’ve kicked to start OT

I almost wonder if the player didn't know the rules. Such an egregious mistake to take the ball.

What is the rule, couldn’t KC have gone done and scored a TD and ended it without SF getting a touch?

No both teams were getting a possession. I’d rather know what I need and if I’m in 4 down

Especially with Mahomes as the QB. Egregious mistake by the Niners. That's on their coaches for not preparing the players for that coin toss.

As they mentioned on the broadcast, I think the defense was gassed.

That's fine but you still have to play the best odds right? Give the Chiefs the ball first and if they go down and score a TD at least you know you are always in 4 down territory. There is absolutely no reason to take the ball first with the current rules. It probably cost them the game.

Of course there’s a reason to. If the Niners scored a TD and Chiefs matched then SF gets the ball back with a chance to win with a FG.

By taking the ball first, they guaranteed the Chiefs get an extra down on their final drive. They had to go for it on 4th. I would rather be in the position of knowing that I have to go for it on 4th.

I feel like you are ignoring the 3rd possession - I have no clue what the math will say but my gut tells me receiving is the right call.

I feel like knowing what you need on your 1st possession is a huge advantage, just like collefe.

What if SF scored a TD?

And so what? Then the Chiefs still have an extra automatic down.

Then unless KC goes for 2 I’m going to get the ball with a chance to kick a FG to win.

Yeah that’s the thing. KC is almost certainly going for two because you’d rather put the game in the hands of Mahomes rather than your gassed D. So you have to figure that into your calculations

Ok, 51-49 receiving.

I‘ll say this - they’ve made it where it seems about as fair as it could be and much better than it’s been.

I just like that it scrambles everyone’s brain and we don’t readily have all the WP% calculations at our fingertips because this is a totally new situation

 

[AAABatteries]

Ended up being a great game despite all the sloppiness in the first half.

Does Toney get invited to the parade?

 

[pecorino]

Also, hope this puts to bed any talk remotely suggesting Purdy isn’t the surefire franchise QB they need to move forward with.

He was excellent.

I thought Purdy played well overall but not excellent. In the third quarter when the Niners had a chance to pad their lead, he was terrible. I don’t have stats in front of me but it seemed like he couldn’t complete a pass in the 3rd quarter. I was impressed, though, that he fought through it and ended to game pretty well.

 

[fred_1_15301]

Also, hope this puts to bed any talk remotely suggesting Purdy isn’t the surefire franchise QB they need to move forward with.

He was excellent.

I thought Purdy played well overall but not excellent. In the third quarter when the Niners had a chance to pad their lead, he was terrible. I don’t have stats in front of me but it seemed like he couldn’t complete a pass in the 3rd quarter. I was impressed, though, that he fought through it and ended to game pretty well.

I thought he played well in the first quarter. After that, I thought he struggled. The Niners were controlling that game early and could not put it away.

 

[culdeus]

Greenlaw doesn't hop and pop his Achilles and San fran wins this. What an insane moment.

 

[Dinkle Heimer]

Also, hope this puts to bed any talk remotely suggesting Purdy isn’t the surefire franchise QB they need to move forward with.

He was excellent.

Meh. He's more than a game manager and surely better than Jimmy G. He reads coverages well which certainly allows him to play above his skill set. When pass protection doesn't breakdown he's ultra efficient. Was he really any better than any QB he played against in the playoffs?

A surefire franchise QB with multiple elite weapons on offense and an elite defense. I'll give him that. San Francisco isn't keeping all those guys too much longer.

 

[ignatiusjreilly]

My galaxy brain take on that game is that KC won because they have Mahomes and SF lost because they don’t

 

[IHEARTFF]

Any HOF legacies on the line? Chris Jones and George Kittle come to mind. Kyle Shanahan. Harrison Butker.

Reid/Mahomes/Kelce/Spags/CMC/Trent are all locks.

Have to think Chris Jones and Harrison Butker secured their gold jackets no?

 

[Dinkle Heimer]

Also, hope this puts to bed any talk remotely suggesting Purdy isn’t the surefire franchise QB they need to move forward with.

He was excellent.

Meh. He's more than a game manager and surely better than Jimmy G. He reads coverages well which certainly allows him to play above his skill set. When pass protection doesn't breakdown he's ultra efficient. Was he really any better than any QB he played against in the playoffs?

A surefire franchise QB with multiple elite weapons on offense and an elite defense. I'll give him that. San Francisco isn't keeping all those guys too much longer

 

[Dinkle Heimer]

Such a sloppy game in ways. Especially 1st half. Still a good grind and finish.

It needs to be said the refs were spectacular and it came down to 2 teams on their own merits

 

[Sunday Gravy]

Also, hope this puts to bed any talk remotely suggesting Purdy isn’t the surefire franchise QB they need to move forward with.

He was excellent.

Couldn't disagree more. Shanahan constantly putting too much on his plate when he's just not good enough to handle it is why they lost imo. Can count 3-4 times where he got away from his best player McCaffrey and it never went well. Especially the first two possessions coming out of the half. Major momentum killer for SF.