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Survivor Season 42: Starts Wednesday March 9, 2022 (1 Viewer)
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PinkydaPimp
Footballguy
offdee
Footballguy
I'd probably vote myself off. Honestly would probably be more ok with starving then be contained on an island with someone like that and no other option than to be around it.
And I'd totally be that the girl at the Tribal that just couldn't contain my faces of disgust and annoyance as she goes on her loud rants and maniacal laughter.
Pip's Invitation
Footballguy
Daniel’s comments from the sit-out bench were GOLD!
Mike continually forgetting where he hid the idol was also hilarious. He’s probably going to regret looping Daniel in, though.
Mike continually forgetting where he hid the idol was also hilarious. He’s probably going to regret looping Daniel in, though.
simey
Footballguy
I think she is probably a very upbeat person by nature, but I think her hyperness is elevated even more by nervous energy on the island.
El Floppo
Footballguy
Instinctive
Footballguy
1. I just can't see telling people about an advantage early on.
2. JFC Maryanne might be the most annoying player since the blue haired i love the chickens girl - no idea how you keep her over literally anyone.
2. JFC Maryanne might be the most annoying player since the blue haired i love the chickens girl - no idea how you keep her over literally anyone.
Mr. Mojo
Footballguy
1. Totally agree and it keeps happening.
2. She went from sincere and fairly likable to just annoying in about 1 week.
El Floppo
Footballguy
1- I suppose it's about trying to build trust for an early alliance... but better done once you're already confident in your alliance/partnership than as a bargaining chip to build it.
2- she seems genuine and nice... but nfw do I want to be around that naive, manic energy 24/7- however positive it is.
Corporation
Angry Bovine
Marya at least made the right move and took the shot in the dark, there was no downside for her. Either her tribemates are telling her the truth and they are voting for Maryanne (so her vote wouldn't matter) or she was in trouble and may as well take the 1 in 6 chance.
Maryanne makes me smile when she is on TV but I agree it would probably wear thin after awhile.
I'll never understand sharing information about an idol or an advantage. I can't remember many situations other than maybe Yul where it worked out. I think Yul essentially let everyone know he had it and was directing votes, but that was a long time ago and in early game play. I don't think that would work now.
Maryanne makes me smile when she is on TV but I agree it would probably wear thin after awhile.
I'll never understand sharing information about an idol or an advantage. I can't remember many situations other than maybe Yul where it worked out. I think Yul essentially let everyone know he had it and was directing votes, but that was a long time ago and in early game play. I don't think that would work now.
Pip's Invitation
Footballguy
Yul also had a super idol, which could be played after the votes were read and is much more powerful than a regular idol, so he had a lot more going in his favor than your average idol holder. The only way to defeat the super idol is for someone from the majority alliance to fall on their sword, and no one in his season was willing to do that.Corporation said:
I expect we will see just as much blabbing about idols and advantages on 42 as we did on 41. Part of that is because you lose your vote until the Beware idol is activated, so you may need to let your alliance know that you don't have a vote they can work with. And part of that is because these people had been cooped up for a year (filming was in spring 2021) without much human contact aside from the other members of their household. Combine that with almost everyone who gets cast being an extrovert in the first place, and you have a group of people who are itching for human contact and prone to oversharing.
PinkydaPimp
Footballguy
Never never never mention you have an idol. Always makes you a target. That info must be protected at all costs.once people do know you play it.Corporation said:
krista4
Footballguy
My view of the math is that dumb lawyer dude went from a 75% chance of survival by drawing rocks to a 0% chance of survival in the future by not doing it. And he must be the most stupid lawyer I've ever seen with his "negotiation," which seemed to consist of "trying to throw blame inexplicably to someone else and then cave with only the tiniest of pushes," instead of using the fact that he could put the three others in danger to gain some sort of advantage or, better, to convince the stupid guy with 4 on 2 numbers to realize he was better off to switch.
DropKick
Footballguy
Was not a good luck for him. Amazing to see the "true person" come to the front with just the slightest pressure.
offdee
Footballguy
Pipes
Footballguy
Jonathan is a fricken beast. Admittingly I haven't watched every season but I haven't seen someone physically dominate a challenge like that ever. That tide was absolutely ridiculous. People drown in conditions like that let alone drag a bunch of people and a heavy ladder to shore.
Pipes
Footballguy
And yeah for a lawyer (yes we know) Daniel he's not very smart. Also when did they start letting people sit out back to back challenges? I always thought it had to be someone new every time. Probably a good thing though with his shoulder he had no chance to do anything in that water other than drown.
El Floppo
Footballguy
the namaste peace pose in response when Jeff said the same thing... so awesomely perfectly bad.
imo....I thought it was kind of bs that they allowed the other two tribes to "skip" a portion of the challenge....I get the water was unexpectedly brutal, the other teams didn't have the Hulk, and there may have been some safety issues and those teams probably weren't going to complete the challenge....but it really wasn't fair to Hulks team....I realize he basically completed the challenge on his own and his team wouldn't have completed it either without him....but....isn't that kind of the point of the show and the nature of this game...."survival" of the fittest in some aspects....just getting to basically come up on the beach and start over and just have to toss some bags seems kind of lame...
with that said....I'm ok with them making the decision for safety purposes as it was obvious they weren't going to complete it......however I think there should have been a resolution like both of those tribes go to tribal or some other penalty for the team that finished second....
with that said....I'm ok with them making the decision for safety purposes as it was obvious they weren't going to complete it......however I think there should have been a resolution like both of those tribes go to tribal or some other penalty for the team that finished second....
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also I told my wife last night....I will once again pound the table that I miss the old days of survivor when it was based on your physical abilities and your worth with what you can bring to the tribe by fishing, building shelter, providing etc....in combination with your social skills...
now we have all these twists and advantages, not being able to vote, etc... to where we have to go 7 layers deep into some freaking tie breaker and Jeff having to announce like the ref Ed Hoculi in football.... "by rule".... blah blah blah....with some quirky explanation....because they created their own mess....the core of the game is being lost in all these changes....it really is....now its just a matter of which nerdy person turns out to be the sneakiest weasel that can maneuver all the twists and idols that aren't "activated" yet or some crap.......it's just not as fun as when there used to just be hidden immunity idols and that's it.....all these changes have really changed the core of the game play....
now we have all these twists and advantages, not being able to vote, etc... to where we have to go 7 layers deep into some freaking tie breaker and Jeff having to announce like the ref Ed Hoculi in football.... "by rule".... blah blah blah....with some quirky explanation....because they created their own mess....the core of the game is being lost in all these changes....it really is....now its just a matter of which nerdy person turns out to be the sneakiest weasel that can maneuver all the twists and idols that aren't "activated" yet or some crap.......it's just not as fun as when there used to just be hidden immunity idols and that's it.....all these changes have really changed the core of the game play....
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offdee
Footballguy
I was waiting for Jonathan to run out into the water to help both teams hold their ladder to survive. Albeit he’d have to choose one tribe to help first.
Got me thinking..would that have been a smart game move on his part or actually painted an even bigger target on his back? I think prob smart…it’s not like it’s any secret he’s far and away the biggest (only?) physical threat on the island so might as well flaunt it and get on other tribes good graces.
Jayrok
Footballguy
Crossed my mind too. That would have been a great gesture, imo. But I'm afraid that, either way, he's going to be blindsided.
offdee
Footballguy
Oh for sure, they’d be absolutely silly not to at first chance. He’s never gonna lose anything physically to anybody there and usually the last 3 challenges are pretty much guaranteed to be physical/endurance.
this won't be a popular take.....but the overloaded focus on "diversity" has had a dramatic affect on the physical makeup of the cast....and IMO has taken away some of the core parts of the game...physicality used to at least have some advantages at least for a little while and could maybe even carry you deep into the game....now the non physical players just team up and boot you....
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El Floppo
Footballguy
I think that's been happening regardless of diversity.
not sure if you've been watching Australia- but if not you'd like it. the ones we've watched, the early challenges are almost all physical, and then it gets more balance/puzzles as it progresses. Players include serious athletes, often times former pros. Even still- the people who dominate the challenges are always taken out, usually right away at the merge, and the final two or three are typically non-physical players. that feels like how the US version has been finishing up for a while now... IIRC.
DA RAIDERS
Footballguy
What was up with the girl on the side trip risking her vote? So dumb. She even said, I can’t risk my vote tonight. Unreal.
daniel no smart. Gonna be him next and then tai.
daniel no smart. Gonna be him next and then tai.
offdee
Footballguy
Don’t you remember that she can control all votes just with her social game?!? No worries.
Pip's Invitation
Footballguy
That rule only applies to two challenges in the same voting cycle. If there is one reward and one immunity challenge between tribals, then different people have to sit out. If there is only one challenge between tribals, then the same person can sit out that sat out the last challenge.
This was only explained by Jeff a few years ago, and it might have been in an interview outside the show.
Pip's Invitation
Footballguy
That’s almost always how it goes. Modern Survivor is a game of “who can be the most medium,” and Jonathan is definitely not that.
Pip's Invitation
Footballguy
This episode’s strategy was TERRIBLE but it was ENTERTAINING and I was THERE FOR IT.
As @DA RAIDERSsaid, Chanelle’s decision to risk her vote was monumentally dumb. In what universe do you tell Omar that “I need my vote for tribal tonight” and assume he won’t infer that he can risk his vote?
And then Daniel alienated EVERYBODY with his attempts at playing both sides. He thought he was manipulating people like Cirie, but it’s hard to pull that off when you give off Ted Cruz vibes. At any minute during tribal, I was expecting everyone else to say “screw it, let’s take out the swing vote who overplayed their hand.”
krista4
Footballguy
Yeah, I forgot to talk about Chanelle's horrible decision, which I shouted at the TV about while watching, because then Daniel became just as stupid. I still can't get over the fact that he held some power and masterfully negotiated that away in return for the burning of any alliance with those on the wrong side of the numbers last night plus a "vow" from the other two that they "won't hold my initial vote against me, right, guys? Right, guys? Oh sure, we won't hold it against you, dumdum."
But yeah, she was a complete dummy too.
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Pip's Invitation
Footballguy
Daniel accomplished the near-impossible feat of alienating every single other person on his tribe.
His only hope is that Hai and Lydia decide to use him as a number until the merge.
Runkle
Footballguy
What, you've never seen a lawyer start off by saying "I want to begin this negotiation by declaring that I absolutely positively will accept any and all compromises in order to get this deal done!"?
Pip's Invitation
Footballguy
Definitely a chance for it to be the most chaotic season since Gabon.Anyway
this season is just pure chaos.
BigJim®
Footballguy
Delayed/conditional idols are lame-O in place of old school idols. Speaking of idols and advantages, when is the last time anyone kept a secret? I don’t get it. Doesn’t anyone who watched this show know that it puts a target on your back as a threat when known? Recent casts have gone full stupid. Who they trust with secrets is mid boggling.
I enjoyed Chanelle’s inability to compute that she’d forced her own hand to go Keep my Vote, when she truly did *need* to keep her vote. In general though, the whole intrigue/point of that challenge is lost when the first trio reports about it back at camp. Unless you are Chanelle that is. It really makes no sense to do the same thing. Would be better to put a twist on what people expect and plan for.
I enjoyed Chanelle’s inability to compute that she’d forced her own hand to go Keep my Vote, when she truly did *need* to keep her vote. In general though, the whole intrigue/point of that challenge is lost when the first trio reports about it back at camp. Unless you are Chanelle that is. It really makes no sense to do the same thing. Would be better to put a twist on what people expect and plan for.
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Corporation
Angry Bovine
Just got to watch, what a snake in the grass Daniel is. This is not only going to have obvious repercussions on the island, but this is the type of thing that will follow you into real life. If you want to be D list social celebrity, then by all means go for it Coach DragonSlayer style. But if you want to be a respected lawyer? This is going to be hard to live down. At first I thought it would be just his sheer clumsiness and incompetence that might haunt him in the real world. Now it's missing the "fine print" in an idol and showing the world your true colors. Bad life decision.
Jonathan seems like a decent person in addition to being the physical beast. He will be quickly executed.
Jonathan seems like a decent person in addition to being the physical beast. He will be quickly executed.
Runkle
Footballguy
Seriously what was with the opening scene? They get back from tribal and Maryanne tells the whole tribe about her extra vote advantage and then, the next morning, organizes a whole tribe idol hunt where everyone sees her find it?
The General
Footballguy
They all know by now that they have that choice when they get selected to take the boat ride, How are the people not agreeing to what they do when given the choice?
What am I missing?
What am I missing?
BigJim®
Footballguy
You aren't. Chanelle and the guy did know of the challenge, and Chanelle said she could not risk her vote while talking to him. Then somehow she convinced herself that he was not going to risk his, so she could risk hers. Unfortunately, he drew the same conclusion based on what she'd told him.
The General
Footballguy
But haven’t they done this same thing last season and already this season where you walk the hill and take this same choice at the bottom?
Honestly, I thought the idol hunt together was a good move. People rub each other the wrong way, but I had been waiting for a tribe to basically say we gotta stick together so let’s do whatever we can to maximize our idols/advantages and go into the merge strong and figure out who they can get to join them. Seems like a tribe could really make a strong alliance and protect their advantages, especially this one.
A couple other thoughts:
1) Daniel may have pissed Chanelle and Mike off but I think he’s fine because Lydia and Hy aren’t getting rid of him yet. I think he only really pissed off Mike and Chanelle since Jenny didn’t matter.
2) Loved Hy staying strong. Him voting for Lydia puts him next and he had a 75% chance of being fine with rocks and he and Lydia were Lilly to have a 2-2 with another chance to get Daniel. I was just glad that Hy saw Daniel caving easily and knew he could easily stay strong and win even if it went to rocks.
3) Chanelle was crazy to risk her vote. I don’t know what she was thinking but it really highlighted her lack of game. You told him you could never risk your vote. You knew you had a tiny 3-2 advantage (Mike’s vote was gone) that included Daniel. She screwed herself.
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Da Guru
Fair & Balanced
Still would love to see an "all women" or "all men" Survivor where the weak players are voted out not the strong players.
An all women Survivor would be very entertaining.
BigJim®
Footballguy
Yeah, I complained about it above as being dumb to repeat within season but I think I understand your question better now. The prior Survivor and this one were amped up/shortened versions, and Jeff led this one by saying the cast of this one did not see the last one.
simey
Footballguy
Summer Wheat
Footballguy
When he was carrying on I thought of that would be Tim at a Tribal.
Or was it? Tim was gone for a month or two.
Nick Vermeil
Footballguy
I guess I'm the odd one out that likes this cast of dipshirts.
"I almost stroked out right there."
"I almost stroked out right there."
Corporation
Angry Bovine
Every season some will say "this is the worst cast ever". For whatever reason, I always enjoy them. Even bad play can create entertaining TV.I guess I'm the odd one out that likes this cast of dipshirts.
"I almost stroked out right there."
offdee
Footballguy
lol the dude not only dropped the actual idol in the middle of the jungle, but then also forgot he had the parchment with all the details stuck between his taint. Just gave back the wrap with nothing in it.I guess I'm the odd one out that likes this cast of dipshirts.
"I almost stroked out right there."
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