Birdie048
Footballguy
While I don’t have projections I don’t see the “career numbers” in 2024 for him with Saq taking targets.
Saq is an accomplished receiving RB and will get designed plays for him in open space
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TE Dallas Goedert, PHI (2 Viewers)
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Saq is an accomplished receiving RB and will get designed plays for him in open space
Harjiran
Footballguy
60 rec, 700 yds on 85 targets, 5 TDs or thereabouts, with 3 or 4 games missed due to injury. Every season I roll with Goedert with high hopes but he never quite meets expectations. I think he probably has one breakout season in him if he can avoid the injury bug. Maybe this is the year?
I agree he has potential for a career year, though my guess is will be his second best season on a per game basis as he was doing very well in per game production in 2022.
I think Barkley and the down year he had last year has overly soured people.
With regards to the down year I think that offensive coaching staff last year was sorry. Some of it had to do with his arm injury but his efficiency was drastically lower then his previous seasons, which was elite just the season before and I"m not using that word lightly. Kellen Moore knows how to use the TE's and likes to use them. His teams have been just inside the top 10 in TE targets his last 4 years as an OC and while it's fair to point out he's likely never had a #2WR as talented as Devonta, I'd argue a lot harder he's never had a TE as talented as Goedert.
As for Barkley I don't actually think he's a better receiver then Swift.
Doubt he can be some kind of league winner without an injury to Devonta or AJB but if you give him 100 targets, which I think he can do if he's actually playing 17 games. I think he gives you 70+/800(would have been 80 and over 1K on 100 targets in 2022).
Good value, underrated.
Snotbubbles
Footballguy
Kellen Moore is the great big wildcard. Hurts said 95% of the offense is new. So looking at past performance for the Eagles is hard to predict future use. One thing I know, Goedert needs to stay healthy.
VikingFrog
Footballguy
I’ve been rolling with Taysom Hill with Hockenson in IR. Picked up Goedert last night randomly as really the only thing available on the wire.
Definitely better to be lucky than good,
Never again
VikingFrog
Footballguy
Is there an expectation that he can do something like this again?
I didn’t get to watch much of the game.
In tight end wasteland 2024… I guess it’s a risk we have to be willing to take.
I didn’t get to watch much of the game.
In tight end wasteland 2024… I guess it’s a risk we have to be willing to take.
Hot Sauce Guy
Footballguy
Biggest steal of redrafts. Went in the 17th as an afterthought in my home IDP league.
Naturally I faced him & his 31 points this week.
I should win tonight, but he made it a lot closer than it shoulda been.
Naturally I faced him & his 31 points this week.
I should win tonight, but he made it a lot closer than it shoulda been.
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Hot Sauce Guy
Footballguy
Not when AJB comes back, but he’s probably a top 10 TE for ROS as long as he’s healthy.
Agreed.
He and Devonta Smith will never be all they could be in fantasy when AJB is healthy and Hurts is the QB. I've been a huge dynasty investor in both of them because of what I saw as their talent but this is an example of why talent does not always prevail and situation matters. Not of course saying either of them are not useful, WR2/3 and low end TE1 types, just not to the level they could be which to me is WR1 and top 5 TE kind of stuff. Not a hot take, they both have shown massive fantasy leaps when an injury takes out one of the top 3 pass catchers.
Saying all that historically Kellen Moore has made good use of his TE's in the past and as you are saying I think a top 8 -10 type season is firmly in his grasp.
sushinsky4tsar
Footballguy
I think you really would have had to have been hands-off at the TE position to actually capitalize on a week 3 start. I would have been extremely disappointed that the fantasy uptick didn't come in week 2, but I also didn't watch that game.
Held on to him way too long for dynasty. Hoping he can string a couple together to give me a decent exit plan. But I'm not sure anyone in my league is going to be willing to buy in without it happening when AJB and Smith are on the field.
Held on to him way too long for dynasty. Hoping he can string a couple together to give me a decent exit plan. But I'm not sure anyone in my league is going to be willing to buy in without it happening when AJB and Smith are on the field.
VikingFrog
Footballguy
Yeah. I agree. I got really lucky as I’d been rolling Taysom Hill like a stubborn mule, and I only switched to Goedert due to Hill being listed as doubtful.
No AJB was huge which was why he was pretty close to a must start even if he was a little weak without AJB the previous week. He was already having a career day before Devonta exited though.
Was very disappointed in his week 2 game but I still felt like I said above he was pretty close to a must start this week and I think that is the case any week one of the top two WR's is out.
I just can't say he's a must start because I did bench him one of the 6 leagues I have him but that was just a tough situation because I have Bowers and some really good WR's taking my flex spots. Bowers or McBride are the only two TE's I'd have started over him this past week.
sushinsky4tsar
Footballguy
I need to start following your weekly rankings. Footballers were at TE10.
I get it though. An owner that punted at the TE position and locked into him as their starter would have been well advised not to give up before AJB got back, considering there wasn't anything actually wrong with his week 2 score by 2024 TE standards. But I understand the temptation to throw in the towel after another pedestrian outing with a big opportunity.
I don't factor Goedert in as a TE or flex option at this point in a dynasty that also has Kelce and Kincaid. Based on the way that's going, I guess it's time for me to rectify that. I was starting to feel like Goedert might have entered roster clogger threshold after not getting more in week 2. Glad to see there's still big game potential. Seems like it was just yesterday that he was a TE6/7 in dynasty. Now he's more in the backup TE6/7 range. Would love to see that change, but he's going to have to do it with a healthy receiving core to ever see dyno top 12 again.
Feels like a 4-38 waiting to happen if I dare plug him in next week. But I guess I should jump on that the way my other TEs are producing.
renesauz
IBL Representative
I realize there are different sized leagues with different lineups and roster sizes.....but I've never been a part of a league where a top 15 TE isn't even rostered....nor would I ever want to be
shadrap
Footballguy
I can see it. My 12 team redraft with only 6 bench players. Week two without top receiver & he gets 8 pts or so? Guys on waiver wire getting 14 or so. I can see it. Also early in the season some rash decisions are made. I'm usually the one making them.
renesauz
IBL Representative
I can see it too in a shallow league with only 6 bench spots, as nobody is going to roster a second TE anyway....but I can't stand leagues that shallow. And to be honest, I STILL would be giggling to find him on those waivers. Even at his floor he's a top 12 or so TE so the person dropping him would be...well....a rookie, or more accurately, an irrationally impatient player I will likely send offers to every time one of his stars has a couple of down weeks!
ETA: Wasn't 8 points within the top 12 or so for week 2?????
I never saw those rankings but if I had would have said they are overreacting to his week two game or under reacting to AJB being out.
He was TE12 for me to start the season, was actually in a tier by himself for TE's. If anything I'd have have moved him up since he season started and for sure last week with Njoku out. So just putting him at TE10 with no AJB would have been a hard notion for me to buy.
Siranni has said multiple times over the last few years, including last week, that the passing game revolves around AJB, Devonta and Goedert. I believe when he said this last week it was in response to why Dotson is not involved but point is he keeps saying this, has said it over and over again for at least the last two years.
Just think it makes a huge difference when the top guy on the target todem pole is out.
We've not really seen a lot of examples for what no Devonta or AJB does for Goedert. Goedert himself is the one who usually misses and if my memory serves me correct the last time he was out it was a boon for Devonta. I don't think Devonta has missed a game. We've had one game were AJB missed and Goedert played and that was the playoffs last year. Was nothing exceptional on the targets or catches but was like a 4/50/TD game.
I just think when the coach is telling you time and time again the passing game revolves around 3 people when one is out the other two are must starts, with AJB obviously being that regardless of the health of the other two.
I'd add I benched Likely coming off his 30 point game in week two in two leagues I have him with Goedert once I heard the AJB news. Was a mid game, disappointing, was still better then Likely but just mentioning this to say I'm not just saying this based on what Goedert did this week. Just think he's pretty close to must start guy when AJB or Devonta is out, and this week with a chance both could be out or limited don't see how Goedert owers can't go back to that well.
rockaction
Footballguy
His thirty-four TE Prem points won my week going up against Sam LaPorta. I did not think I'd be typing at the beginning of the week.
eta* And meno's faith in Goedert is a huge reason why I still have faith, although when DeVonta and AJB are back I know to expect that he's the third option there.
eta* And meno's faith in Goedert is a huge reason why I still have faith, although when DeVonta and AJB are back I know to expect that he's the third option there.
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KellysHeroes
Footballguy
is he trust worthy?
renesauz
IBL Representative
is any TE?
rockaction
Footballguy
Between injuries and being third in the pecking order, I'd say not extraordinarily trustworthy, no.
But TE is pretty tough these days. The good ones seem to either be on teams with primary receivers or they block a lot.
I keep waiting for a Jonnu Smith breakout, so that's about where I come in on the issue. Bowers is worth every penny in dynasty, it would seem.
rockaction
Footballguy
One of my dynasty squads has Goedert and then a wasteland (we weren't TE Prem until this year and had no gap year to adjust), one of them has Njoku as the lead (not TE Prem at all), and one of my redrafts has Engram. That's by way of saying that I both punt the position (for what I think is a good reason) and also that there are squads out there that would look at Week Two and be disappointed but not have better options. I know we're all FBG guys and we should have Goedert as our TE3, but I generally play in leagues with FBG guys, so there isn't much wiggle room to take advantage of.
Goedert is now TE1 in TE Prem (1.5 PPR) for the year. That happened fast.
JohnnyU
Footballguy
Not sure, but my guess is bad enough to keep him out a few weeks. I look forward to hearing some news.....or not.
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JohnnyU
Footballguy
2 hours agoPhiladelphia Eagles tight end Dallas Goedert (hamstring) could be out a few weeks due to a hamstring injury. Goedert was injured in the third play of last Sunday's game against the Cleveland Browns and did not return. According to Jeff McLane of the Philadelphia Inquirer, Goedert will be "out a few weeks." The 29-year-old will likely miss Sunday's matchup against the New York Giants and could potentially miss more games. Goedert is having a solid season, catching 24 of 29 targets for 301 yards across five games in 2024. Grant Calcaterra replaced Goedert in Week 6 and would see an uptick in snaps and targets with Goedert sidelined. Fantasy managers searching for a replacement for Goedert or need tight end help in deep leagues can add Calcaterra as a streamer for Week 7. UPDATE: Goedert will not practice on Wednesday.--Brad Camara - RotoBaller
