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If they use this method, I wonder if they'll also go with the idea of sedating the kids while they're in the tube.
Many observers are treating the tight squeezes like they just have to be taken as they are. However, the British divers that found the team on Monday … those guys reported scooping away mud and rocks here and there to get through some narrow spots.
I agree with all you said, there's no doubt he made a terrible and reckless decision.
Yeah, there seems to be an assumption that this cave excursion was known ahead of time to be fairly chancy. I'm not sure that's the case at all, however. Keep in mind that the caves were still open to the public when the team went in (closed starting July 1) and that it was an Act of God (the flash flood) that got the team trapped.
I think there's plenty of doubt about that. From what we know so far, he didn't take the team to the cave behind the parents' back, and they didn't go anywhere in the cave known to be an especial risk.
I mostly agree, but in the article I just posted, one of the kids in the troop that often goes in the cave with the coach and his team said that while he's been in there several times, it has never been during the rainy season.
When's rainy season? Was the July 1st cut-off sufficient pretty much every year previous?
I think Doug posted above - the cave system did not close until July 1 - they went in on June 23. I don't think that was unreasonable. Unfortunate, but not unreasonable.
I checked the same info for the Thai inland city of Chiang Mai, maybe 100-150 miles south of the trapped soccer team. Some cites give the rainy season the same months as for Bangkok, other will go as early as May for the start of rainy season in Chiang Mai.
I respectfully disagree... going miles into a cave 2 weeks before rainy season is a very bad error in judgement.
I don't think so. If it was - the caves should have been closed - which they are on July 1.
Not regarding this specific scenario … but I've more than once seen folks from East Asia gently scoff at the American (or Western) notion that "everything bad could've been prevented" or "someone is to blame". Just a cultural thing … it is what it is, I guess.
And, just to add, I don't know that they went "miles" into the cave before they were forced deeper due to the rains.
It's really amazing what he seems to have done in this situation. Yes, he made a tragic mistake, but man, the fact the boys even survived long enough to be found is amazing. Maybe even more amazing that the boys aren't panicking. In addition to the obviously massive and heroic efforts of the divers and others, if these boys survive, their positive attitude and, frankly, naivety, will play a huge role. That coach seems to have been a brilliant leader so far in a horrible situation.timschochet said:
Seriously. Not to mention the tremendous guilt and grief he’s going through, even before you consider he’s stuck in a cave. People are the worst.
No wonder Island people tend to be healthier. Bitterness, blame and resentment are toxic. Good for them. Man I hope these kids make it out!
Oof that food is island like delish
Thailand is not an Island... But your premise still stands.
That was as of midday EDT ... if his team was following that plan at that time, those subs should be in the air. Not sure of what’s actually been executed, though.
CNN's catch phrase used to be "Around the World in 30 Minutes". Now they can't cover anything that doesn't happen in Washington.
It sounds like they are separating the boys and coach in to 4 groups (4-3-3-3), and that each boy will be accompanied by 2 divers. So, not 13 divers with each boy, but 8 or 6 divers with each "group".
Lots of corroboration here — Reuters and other outlets reporting the same.
At Curly’s link:
