titusbramble
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Brazil quite possibly the worst film I have ever seen. Definitely when compared to popular consensus.
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The 101 Best Science Fiction/Fantasy Movies of All Time: 1. Interstellar (2 Viewers)
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IvanKaramazov
Footballguy
This issue came up once or twice in the Horror thread.
Dr. Octopus
Footballguy
I think Big is more of a comedy but it’s hard to say a movie where a kid becomes an adult overnight after making a wish doesn’t have any element of “fantasy”.
Scoresman
Footballguy
Scoresman
Footballguy
That’s understandable. Definitely a unique movie.
I have one movie that is considered a classic of the genre that people will definitely notice is missing from my list. Sorry, but this particular film is the movie equivalent of nails on a chalkboard for me.
KarmaPolice
Footballguy
BLOCKED_PUNT
Footballguy
As Scoresman points out, IMDB does have a fantasy tag on Big but it's all the way in 6th place. While there will be considerable overlap between genre in most movies I still think calling this a fantasy is a bit of a stretch but as one user pointed out, this is his list so if he think it's the 96th best fantasy/sci-fi movie let the guy have it.
Andy Dufresne
Footballguy
The whole conceit is that a kid becomes an adult through magic and has to live a life he's unprepared for. In my mind, of course that's fantasy.
KarmaPolice
Footballguy
My questioning to him or people that agree more with him than me on the genres: does this mean Big is going to be on a few other lists too - comedy? Family? Certainly if its on someone's top 100 scifi movies I'd expect a high grade with those too. Maybe not though.
Eh, to me it's akin to considering Young Frankenstein as sci-fi because it offers reanimation of a corpse through scientific theories. Both, imo, stretch the bounds of the definitions of the genres.
Scoresman
Footballguy
88. District 9
2009 - 1h 52 - RDirector: Neill Blomkamp
Metascore: 81
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In a future Earth in which aliens are isolated in a remote ghetto, a government agent finds himself banished there.
Superb CGI, well implemented social commentary and brilliantly realized aliens, its no wonder this was nominated for Best Picture. In 2009. I might have this too low in hindsight.
Trivia: The language used by the aliens (clicking sounds) was created by rubbing a pumpkin.
Scoresman
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87. Dark City
1998 - 1h 40 - RDirector: Alex Proyas
Metascore: 66
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A man struggles with memories of his past, which include a wife he cannot remember and a nightmarish world no one else ever seems to wake up from.
Gorgeous movie. If you've never seen this, make sure to watch the director's cut. The original spoils the mystery with a monologue at the beginning, and this is much better with the mystery left intact.
Trivia: New Line Cinema forced Alex Proyas to include the opening narration by Kiefer Sutherland, which gives away several plot reveals. Alex Proyas objected to it, saying it was unnecessary, and he subsequently removed the narration from his director's cut.
Scoresman
Footballguy
My answer is yes, and I would follow up with asking why would this be a problem? I don't understand the reasoning why a movie should be restricted to only one genre for the purposes of these lists?
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Is it Bladerunner?
Scoresman
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I'm not revealing it now. Already taking flak for Big. Don't need to add on to that.
Psychopav
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Big is fantasy. Andy Dufresne nailed it upthread. You're good.
I'm not revealing it now. Already taking flak for Big. Don't need to add on to that.
KarmaPolice
Footballguy
As i said before to me these lists and discussions are best when we talk about and are introduced to new movies. That is less likely to have when there is a loose categorization and we have movies multiple movies in all the lists. Imo it gets a tad redundant if we know Big, T2, and Young Frankenstein type movies are going to be in all the lists.
But I also come from arguing about this too much as well through the years at my store, and I am aware my way would probably anger even more people.
I hope you take my posting as intended - morbid curiosity how people think of these things. I've done enough of these countdowns myself and understand the work involved. That and the discussion is appreciated.
Scoresman
Footballguy
Definitely. The differences of opinion are what make these threads great!
BLOCKED_PUNT
Footballguy
I mean, there has to be a limit. A movie like Army of Darkness I think you could arguably fit in comedy, horror and fantasy genres. Or if we went with the Big movies it's listed as Comedy, Drama and fantasy. I feel like 3 is alot and 2 is that happy medium. Genre and subgenre.
Dr. Octopus
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This was a very different movie and a very good one.87. Dark City
1998 - 1h 40 - R
Director: Alex Proyas
Metascore: 66
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A man struggles with memories of his past, which include a wife he cannot remember and a nightmarish world no one else ever seems to wake up from.
Gorgeous movie. If you've never seen this, make sure to watch the director's cut. The original spoils the mystery with a monologue at the beginning, and this is much better with the mystery left intact.
Trivia: New Line Cinema forced Alex Proyas to include the opening narration by Kiefer Sutherland, which gives away several plot reveals. Alex Proyas objected to it, saying it was unnecessary, and he subsequently removed the narration from his director's cut.
Andy Dufresne
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I've watched Dark City two, maybe three times. Each time I wondered what I was missing - it made no lasting impact on me. Interestingly, the sets were reused in another movie that will be cited much later on.
District 9 is a very good movie.
District 9 is a very good movie.
Scoresman
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86. Primer
2004 - 1 h 17 - PG-13Director: Shane Caruth
Metascore: 68
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Four friends/fledgling entrepreneurs, knowing that there's something bigger and more innovative than the different error-checking devices they've built, wrestle over their new invention.
One of the best and most accurate portrayals of time travel in movies, despite it's $7,000 budget. This is one you might need to watch a couple times.
Trivia: Shane Carruth played the lead character Aaron, and did the writing, directing, cinematography, editing, post production, and even the soundtrack for the movie himself.
KarmaPolice
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Have you listened to the Ebert commentary track?
El Floppo
Footballguy
WRONG
The Gator
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You follow the top 200 horror thread?
The Gator
Footballguy
Love this. Just did a rewatch for the first time in a looong time. Definitely will need to watch it more than once for n00bs86. Primer
2004 - 1 h 17 - PG-13
Director: Shane Caruth
Metascore: 68
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Four friends/fledgling entrepreneurs, knowing that there's something bigger and more innovative than the different error-checking devices they've built, wrestle over their new invention.
One of the best and most accurate portrayals of time travel in movies, despite it's $7,000 budget. This is one you might need to watch a couple times.
Trivia: Shane Carruth played the lead character Aaron, and did the writing, directing, cinematography, editing, post production, and even the soundtrack for the movie himself.
What a great movie! Love this so much, always pimping it. It's smart, clever, very intriguing and feels "real" in a sense. Agree on your comment about the accurate portrayal of time travel. A movie you need to watch without distraction and even then it may break your brain.86. Primer
2004 - 1 h 17 - PG-13
Director: Shane Caruth
Metascore: 68
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Four friends/fledgling entrepreneurs, knowing that there's something bigger and more innovative than the different error-checking devices they've built, wrestle over their new invention.
One of the best and most accurate portrayals of time travel in movies, despite it's $7,000 budget. This is one you might need to watch a couple times.
Trivia: Shane Carruth played the lead character Aaron, and did the writing, directing, cinematography, editing, post production, and even the soundtrack for the movie himself.
Andy Dufresne
Footballguy
I'll have to check it out
Scoresman
Footballguy
I think it entirely depends on the film. I feel like Army of Darkness equally represents the three genres you mention and I would be fine with it on any and all of those lists. Big, I feel is definitely comedy first, but has enough fantastic elements for it to fit as a subgenre. There is definitely a line, but it's hard to define. Luckily, as I mentioned, I think Big is the closest I get to that line.
CletiusMaximus
Footballguy
Also, its not a stretch to say the Tom Hanks character is a bit of a fairy.
CletiusMaximus
Footballguy
Why does there have to be a limit? Its one man's list.
Scoresman
Footballguy
I get the general idea. Someone can look for any sign of a fantasy/scifi element in a movie and count it if they really wanted to, then fill their list with borderline genre movies, and have it be kind of lame. Movies like The Truman Show, The Bourne Identity, Amelie, Pulp Fiction all have fantastic of "futuristic" elements you technically could argue. I've seen these arguments.
You just have to trust I'm not going to go that far.
Andy Dufresne
Footballguy
Primer is great because you get lost in the story - just like the main characters do. It is figure out-able but the confusion adds to the experience of the movie.
IvanKaramazov
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There we go. One for the hard-core nerds among us. Excellent choice.86. Primer
2004 - 1 h 17 - PG-13
Director: Shane Caruth
Metascore: 68
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Four friends/fledgling entrepreneurs, knowing that there's something bigger and more innovative than the different error-checking devices they've built, wrestle over their new invention.
One of the best and most accurate portrayals of time travel in movies, despite it's $7,000 budget. This is one you might need to watch a couple times.
Trivia: Shane Carruth played the lead character Aaron, and did the writing, directing, cinematography, editing, post production, and even the soundtrack for the movie himself.
IvanKaramazov
Footballguy
Also, the characters behave more or less exactly as you would expect engineers to behave in this situation. There's no going back to kill baby Hitler or checking out the dinosaurs. It's exploiting the stock market and trying for immortality. Just perfect writing.
Chaz McNulty
Footballguy
Because then we would just have Anarchy!!!
Chaz McNulty
Footballguy
You have nothing to worry about. As long as it's not Bladerunner.
I'm not revealing it now. Already taking flak for Big. Don't need to add on to that.
BLOCKED_PUNT
Footballguy
It's his list so he can put whatever he wants. I'm just saying that it would be iffy (IMHO) if he had the same movie listed in several genes but that likely depends on how far you went down the rabbit hole and argued that belonged in a bunch of other genres. I am NOT saying that has to be limited to 1 but let's not go crazy here and list an obvious horror movie that happens to have a love subplot as a romance. Hi I have opinions.
and I don't think he's disagreeing with me that much.
Scoresman
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85. Return to Oz
1985 - 1h 53 - PGDirector: Walter Murch
Metascore: 42
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Dorothy, saved from a psychiatric experiment by a mysterious girl, is somehow called back to Oz when a vain witch and the Nome King destroy everything that makes the magical land beautiful.
A vastly underrated fantasy film, this is a personal favorite from the 80s. This movie is labeled as a children's movie, but is absolutely terrifying. The movie starts with Dorothy going to the mental hospital for shock therapy. Great start for all the kiddos out there! Then there's the Wheelers, the hall of severed heads, this is not the Oz from 1931. It is, however, much more true to the source material. Oz is meant to be a dark place, and it's reflected here in this incredibly imaginative movie.
Trivia: The first film to use the Walt Disney Pictures logo with the rainbow going over the blue castle.
BLOCKED_PUNT
Footballguy
i trust you.
Andy Dufresne
Footballguy
I've never heard of this movie. Sounds made up.
IvanKaramazov
Footballguy
I don't think I want to see the spinoff where Dorothy gets an icepick to the orbital socket. Seems a little dark.
Dan Lambskin
Footballguy
It’s such a great portrayal of bureaucracy , every time I run into some issue at work or in the real world where I get blocked by some stupid system or procedure it makes me think of that movie
Dan Lambskin
Footballguy
Also Big doesn’t belong IMO. Calling it fantasy is like calling a hot dog a sandwich. You can stretch your imagination, but if I said name me a fantasy movie or a sandwich no rational person would ever mention either
Scoresman
Footballguy
A sinister part of me loves thinking how many kids in the 80s were terrified and had nightmares from Return to Oz. I was certainly one of them.
As in, how many parents saw a sequel to the charming and wonderful Wizard of Oz thinking it was perfectly appropriate for 6 year old, Sally and didn't think twice putting it on for them. It's like a huge cinematic troll to conservative parenting.
As in, how many parents saw a sequel to the charming and wonderful Wizard of Oz thinking it was perfectly appropriate for 6 year old, Sally and didn't think twice putting it on for them. It's like a huge cinematic troll to conservative parenting.
El Floppo
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Murch was local... One of my best friends grew up with and was tight with him and his kids.85. Return to Oz
1985 - 1h 53 - PG
Director: Walter Murch
Metascore: 42
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Dorothy, saved from a psychiatric experiment by a mysterious girl, is somehow called back to Oz when a vain witch and the Nome King destroy everything that makes the magical land beautiful.
A vastly underrated fantasy film, this is a personal favorite from the 80s. This movie is labeled as a children's movie, but is absolutely terrifying. The movie starts with Dorothy going to the mental hospital for shock therapy. Great start for all the kiddos out there! Then there's the Wheelers, the hall of severed heads, this is not the Oz from 1931. It is, however, much more true to the source material. Oz is meant to be a dark place, and it's reflected here in this incredibly imaginative movie.
Trivia: The first film to use the Walt Disney Pictures logo with the rainbow going over the blue castle.
I think he's an award winning editor- had no idea he'd directed.
El Floppo
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That was my mom taking me to the original Willy Wonka... I'm freaking scarred from that thing.A sinister part of me loves thinking how many kids in the 80s were terrified and had nightmares from Return to Oz. I was certainly one of them.
As in, how many parents saw a sequel to the charming and wonderful Wizard of Oz thinking it was perfectly appropriate for 6 year old, Sally and didn't think twice putting it on for them. It's like a huge cinematic troll to conservative parenting.
Scoresman
Footballguy
Murch was local... One of my best friends grew up with and was tight with him and his kids.85. Return to Oz
1985 - 1h 53 - PG
Director: Walter Murch
Metascore: 42
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Dorothy, saved from a psychiatric experiment by a mysterious girl, is somehow called back to Oz when a vain witch and the Nome King destroy everything that makes the magical land beautiful.
A vastly underrated fantasy film, this is a personal favorite from the 80s. This movie is labeled as a children's movie, but is absolutely terrifying. The movie starts with Dorothy going to the mental hospital for shock therapy. Great start for all the kiddos out there! Then there's the Wheelers, the hall of severed heads, this is not the Oz from 1931. It is, however, much more true to the source material. Oz is meant to be a dark place, and it's reflected here in this incredibly imaginative movie.
Trivia: The first film to use the Walt Disney Pictures logo with the rainbow going over the blue castle.
I think he's an award winning editor- had no idea he'd directed.
This was his first... and only movie he ever directed. I do wonder if there's a story behind that.
-OZ-
Footballguy
85. Return to Oz
1985 - 1h 53 - PG
Director: Walter Murch
Metascore: 42
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Dorothy, saved from a psychiatric experiment by a mysterious girl, is somehow called back to Oz when a vain witch and the Nome King destroy everything that makes the magical land beautiful.
A vastly underrated fantasy film, this is a personal favorite from the 80s. This movie is labeled as a children's movie, but is absolutely terrifying. The movie starts with Dorothy going to the mental hospital for shock therapy. Great start for all the kiddos out there! Then there's the Wheelers, the hall of severed heads, this is not the Oz from 1931. It is, however, much more true to the source material. Oz is meant to be a dark place, and it's reflected here in this incredibly imaginative movie.
Trivia: The first film to use the Walt Disney Pictures logo with the rainbow going over the blue castle.
Leroy Hoard
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What an interesting talent, one that until now I was not really aware of. His Wikipedia page implies that less than favorable box office/reviews may have soured him on future directing jobs.Murch was local... One of my best friends grew up with and was tight with him and his kids.85. Return to Oz
1985 - 1h 53 - PG
Director: Walter Murch
Metascore: 42
- YouTube
Enjoy the videos and music you love, upload original content, and share it all with friends, family, and the world on YouTube.
Dorothy, saved from a psychiatric experiment by a mysterious girl, is somehow called back to Oz when a vain witch and the Nome King destroy everything that makes the magical land beautiful.
A vastly underrated fantasy film, this is a personal favorite from the 80s. This movie is labeled as a children's movie, but is absolutely terrifying. The movie starts with Dorothy going to the mental hospital for shock therapy. Great start for all the kiddos out there! Then there's the Wheelers, the hall of severed heads, this is not the Oz from 1931. It is, however, much more true to the source material. Oz is meant to be a dark place, and it's reflected here in this incredibly imaginative movie.
Trivia: The first film to use the Walt Disney Pictures logo with the rainbow going over the blue castle.
I think he's an award winning editor- had no idea he'd directed.
This was his first... and only movie he ever directed. I do wonder if there's a story behind that.
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