****The 2019 Carolina Panthers Thread**** We Rhule At Losing (5 Viewers)

[stbugs]

hmmmmm......didn't see that coming. I have been wondering for some time what they were going to do with the cap issues at DE. So what does this tell us about Johnson long term with the Panthers? Or is this writing on the wall that Hardy is a one year rental?

I'm not liking our draft at all. I understand future needs, but we have gigantic holes right now and after 2 rounds we have a project WR, who is everyone's pick as the early bust (honestly I thought the same before the draft) and a backup DE, who had flashes but wasn't consistent. If we make it to the playoffs, we will lose to SF 17-0 this year.

 

[The Commish]

hmmmmm......didn't see that coming. I have been wondering for some time what they were going to do with the cap issues at DE. So what does this tell us about Johnson long term with the Panthers? Or is this writing on the wall that Hardy is a one year rental?

My guess is that he will be Hardy's replacement.

Tough to say without a contract for Hardy. If they let Johnson go, they save 11 million next year. That's a huge number given their cap issues.

 

[meanjoegreen]

hmmmmm......didn't see that coming. I have been wondering for some time what they were going to do with the cap issues at DE. So what does this tell us about Johnson long term with the Panthers? Or is this writing on the wall that Hardy is a one year rental?

I'm not liking our draft at all. I understand future needs, but we have gigantic holes right now and after 2 rounds we have a project WR, who is everyone's pick as the early bust (honestly I thought the same before the draft) and a backup DE, who had flashes but wasn't consistent. If we make it to the playoffs, we will lose to SF 17-0 this year.

I don't even know if we will make the playoffs since Cam won't even be working on timing with his WRs until training camp due to his surgery, but I think you are being somewhat dramatic. Not everyone thinks that Benjamin will be a bust. Many think he was a great pick. Hardy might be on his way out next year or even Johnson, and I like the DE pick. It is only the second round. We have more rounds to address other needs.

 

[The Commish]

hmmmmm......didn't see that coming. I have been wondering for some time what they were going to do with the cap issues at DE. So what does this tell us about Johnson long term with the Panthers? Or is this writing on the wall that Hardy is a one year rental?

I'm not liking our draft at all. I understand future needs, but we have gigantic holes right now and after 2 rounds we have a project WR, who is everyone's pick as the early bust (honestly I thought the same before the draft) and a backup DE, who had flashes but wasn't consistent. If we make it to the playoffs, we will lose to SF 17-0 this year.

I don't think there is any question they are looking long term in this draft. I have no doubt they'll regress a bit this year.

 

[stbugs]

hmmmmm......didn't see that coming. I have been wondering for some time what they were going to do with the cap issues at DE. So what does this tell us about Johnson long term with the Panthers? Or is this writing on the wall that Hardy is a one year rental?

I'm not liking our draft at all. I understand future needs, but we have gigantic holes right now and after 2 rounds we have a project WR, who is everyone's pick as the early bust (honestly I thought the same before the draft) and a backup DE, who had flashes but wasn't consistent. If we make it to the playoffs, we will lose to SF 17-0 this year.

I don't think there is any question they are looking long term in this draft. I have no doubt they'll regress a bit this year.

Shouldn't they be worried about the long term health of Cam when he gets destroyed this year? OL is a huge hole, far worse IMHO than WR was and we have nothing so far there.

And there goes Moses 6 picks later. No idea if he will work out, but I'd rather take a chance on a T than a chance on a DE, who may or may not replace guys already on the roster for 2014.

Call me a pessimist, but I just don't like our draft so far.

 

[stbugs]

hmmmmm......didn't see that coming. I have been wondering for some time what they were going to do with the cap issues at DE. So what does this tell us about Johnson long term with the Panthers? Or is this writing on the wall that Hardy is a one year rental?

I'm not liking our draft at all. I understand future needs, but we have gigantic holes right now and after 2 rounds we have a project WR, who is everyone's pick as the early bust (honestly I thought the same before the draft) and a backup DE, who had flashes but wasn't consistent. If we make it to the playoffs, we will lose to SF 17-0 this year.

I don't even know if we will make the playoffs since Cam won't even be working on timing with his WRs until training camp due to his surgery, but I think you are being somewhat dramatic. Not everyone thinks that Benjamin will be a bust. Many think he was a great pick. Hardy might be on his way out next year or even Johnson, and I like the DE pick. It is only the second round. We have more rounds to address other needs.

I'm really not being dramatic, Benjamin may work out, but a lot of people are predicting him as a bust already. At this point, I just hope Cam is going to survive the year with whatever shell of an OL we end up with this year.

 

[The Commish]

They'll get an OL with their next pick or their first tomorrow. Guys like Hearst are still out there. I wasn't a Moses fan, so I'm not so worried about him being gone. Cam's a big boy. He'll be alright and can help himself emmencly by making quick decisions.

 

[The Commish]

Like the WRs left too

 

[The Commish]

Like the WRs left too

Like them a little less with that Indy pick

 

[The Commish]

Already the longest we've had to wake for a pick...wonder if Indy screwed them up a bit

 

[jurb26]

Finally a pick I like. Turner can play right away IMO.

 

[The Commish]

Let the line development begin.

 

[Jayrok]

Like the WRs left too

I wouldn't mind them getting Martavis Bryant or Bruce Ellington sometime today.

 

[jurb26]

Like the WRs left too

I wouldn't mind them getting Martavis Bryant or Bruce Ellington sometime today.

Yeah, please draft Bryant. He is what people hope Benjamin is IMO.

 

[pollardsvision]

Gettleman drafting via Skype today as his daughter is graduating college in Mass.

It's about time colleges stop it with this graduation on NFL draft weekend business.

 

[pollardsvision]

hmmmmm......didn't see that coming. I have been wondering for some time what they were going to do with the cap issues at DE. So what does this tell us about Johnson long term with the Panthers? Or is this writing on the wall that Hardy is a one year rental?

I'm not liking our draft at all. I understand future needs, but we have gigantic holes right now and after 2 rounds we have a project WR, who is everyone's pick as the early bust (honestly I thought the same before the draft) and a backup DE, who had flashes but wasn't consistent. If we make it to the playoffs, we will lose to SF 17-0 this year.

I don't think there is any question they are looking long term in this draft. I have no doubt they'll regress a bit this year.

I agree.

Too much short term thinking from Hureny is probably what got the Panthers in this cap bind.

Plus, Ealy should be a very valuable short-term play too. A team in Charlotte should have a good Nascar package (especially in a division with Brees and Ryan).

 

[The Commish]

Like the WRs left too

I wouldn't mind them getting Martavis Bryant or Bruce Ellington sometime today.

Yeah....I've liked Bryant for a long time (see earlier in the thread). He and Benjiman are similar but Bryant is faster. Both have issues dropping balls, but those large targets should help Cam.

 

[NCCommish]

hmmmmm......didn't see that coming. I have been wondering for some time what they were going to do with the cap issues at DE. So what does this tell us about Johnson long term with the Panthers? Or is this writing on the wall that Hardy is a one year rental?

I'm not liking our draft at all. I understand future needs, but we have gigantic holes right now and after 2 rounds we have a project WR, who is everyone's pick as the early bust (honestly I thought the same before the draft) and a backup DE, who had flashes but wasn't consistent. If we make it to the playoffs, we will lose to SF 17-0 this year.

I have to disagree. First I don't think Benjamin is going to bust. I think he is going to do well here and be a red zone threat from day one. In a season or two he can grow into a true number 1. Any OL they picked at 60 would have been a reach same with CB. And this kid is going to be a starting DE on this team maybe not this year but very soon. He was also projected by many to be a first rounder that was a solid pick.

 

[NCCommish]

I like the guard pick. And anyone thinking the Panthers are desperate to draft a tackle are fooling themselves. They seem to truly think either Bell or Chandler are going to be able to hold down that spot. And there will be veteran cuts coming so they may go bargain shopping for a tackle. They aren't going to reach for it though in this draft. And remember that Getts has big faith he can pull a guy or two from the UDFA pool. Like he did with White.

 

[Faust]

Panthers GM Dave Gettleman to Skype in to draft Day 3

 

[NCCommish]

Panthers GM Dave Gettleman to Skype in to draft Day 3

I think it's great. Family should be a priority and technology really eliminates the need to be in any particular place to do anything.

 

[Faust]

Rotoworld:

Panthers selected Stanford RB Tyler Gaffney with the No. 204 overall pick in the 2014 NFL draft.
Gaffney (5-foot-11 1/2, 220) spent one season as the Cardinal's feature runner, rushing 330 times for 1,709 yards (5.18 YPC) and 21 scores as a senior. He managed 32 career catches. Although Gaffney ran 4.49 at the Combine, his underwhelming 9-foot-8 broad jump is more indicative of his explosiveness. He is a sluggish grinder in the Jackie Battle mold, lacks lateral agility, and only gets what's blocked. Gaffney projects as a No. 2 or 3 back in the pros, and may have to demonstrate special teams value to forge a long career. He enters Carolina behind DeAngelo Williams, Jonathan Stewart, and Kenjon Barner.

 

[Sammy3469]

Bigger news is Godfrey moving to CB....they kept that under wraps for some reason...sort of wonder why and if it worked.

Fwiw I like what they did this draft...of course I like Benjamin more than some and I love the flexibility EAlt gives them if he is good.

Wonder if they'll try to bring that TN OT in as an UFA and why he fell completely out of the draft as a bunch of mocks I saw had him as a 2nd round talent.

 

[The Commish]

Wow....it was clear that they were on a mission to fix the cap issues. I'll give them a B with opportunity to get to A- depending on how things go. Benjamin will be an instant red zone threat which is what they need, but it'll be a couple years before he's an actual #1 IMO. There's still a lot of undrafted talent out there. When the Panthers didn't take a WR I was hoping Gallon would go undrafted, but the Pats scooped him up in the last round.

 

[cstu]

Wow....it was clear that they were on a mission to fix the cap issues. I'll give them a B with opportunity to get to A- depending on how things go. Benjamin will be an instant red zone threat which is what they need, but it'll be a couple years before he's an actual #1 IMO. There's still a lot of undrafted talent out there. When the Panthers didn't take a WR I was hoping Gallon would go undrafted, but the Pats scooped him up in the last round.

There couldn't be a better situation than this for Olsen. Can't believe they only took a raw receiver like Benjamin.

 

[stbugs]

hmmmmm......didn't see that coming. I have been wondering for some time what they were going to do with the cap issues at DE. So what does this tell us about Johnson long term with the Panthers? Or is this writing on the wall that Hardy is a one year rental?

I'm not liking our draft at all. I understand future needs, but we have gigantic holes right now and after 2 rounds we have a project WR, who is everyone's pick as the early bust (honestly I thought the same before the draft) and a backup DE, who had flashes but wasn't consistent. If we make it to the playoffs, we will lose to SF 17-0 this year.

I have to disagree. First I don't think Benjamin is going to bust. I think he is going to do well here and be a red zone threat from day one. In a season or two he can grow into a true number 1. Any OL they picked at 60 would have been a reach same with CB. And this kid is going to be a starting DE on this team maybe not this year but very soon. He was also projected by many to be a first rounder that was a solid pick.

Well, we just have a difference of opinion. For instance, wouldn't you think a guy like Antonio Richardson would be worth a chance over the RB from Stanford? I was hoping after the draft that they would go after Richardson and Hurst just because they need to take chances on OT. Honestly, I think I would have liked their draft if they took Richardson in the 6th or even grabbed him as an UDFA. No idea why he fell undrafted, but he was generally a top 10 OT predicted to be a 2nd/3rd rounder.

 

[SaintsInDome2006]

Any info on tehse UDFA's and whether they have a shot at doing anything?

Corey Brown WR Ohio State
Marcus Lucas WR Missouri

 

[werdnoynek]

Tavarres King has a legit shot at a starting job IMO. He has the ability to beat out Cotchery and Avant.

 

[Max Power]

I didn't care for this draft. I realize the Panthers went into it with one arm tied behind their back, but the chips didn't fall right and the team didn't get better. Hopefully there is enough talent to build on from this one.....

 

[jurb26]

I didn't care for this draft. I realize the Panthers went into it with one arm tied behind their back, but the chips didn't fall right and the team didn't get better. Hopefully there is enough talent to build on from this one.....

I don't know. I thought a lot of chips fell in potentially the right places for Car. They just didn't take advantage of it. Not a fan of this draft at all. Hope I'm wrong, though.

 

[BassNBrew]

Panthers GM Dave Gettleman to Skype in to draft Day 3

I think it's great. Family should be a priority and technology really eliminates the need to be in any particular place to do anything.

You still feel that way after yesterday's effort? Did we really need another RB with Stewart, DW, Tolbert, and Barner under contract? IMO you might as well have walked up to the podium and said we're giving the rest of you a chance to compete with us and are just going to pass on this pick.

 

[pollardsvision]

It seemed like a good draft to me. It seemed like they were taking a long-term approach with the earlier picks instead of reaching for immediate needs. Then addressing some needs later in the draft picking up a couple of nice DBs.

The obvious issue is not taking an OT, but it's very possible they didn't see a true difference maker by the end of the 2nd, when they took their best value pick in Ealy, and certainly by the end of the 3rd. Maybe the evidence doesn't support it, but it seems like finding a real stud OT after the 2nd or 3rd round seems incredibly rare.

Either way, the 1st 2 picks make sense, and by that point, I could see where it wouldn't make sense to reach for an OT.

My memory might also be failing me here too, but unlike OT, it seems finding quality DBs from the 4th round on is much more likely so going there for need makes sense.

I think this is a team still building and is a lot more than one player away. I have no idea what will become of the individual players, but I like the approach.

 

[SaintsInDome2006]

It seemed like a good draft to me. It seemed like they were taking a long-term approach with the earlier picks instead of reaching for immediate needs. Then addressing some needs later in the draft picking up a couple of nice DBs.

The obvious issue is not taking an OT, but it's very possible they didn't see a true difference maker by the end of the 2nd, when they took their best value pick in Ealy, and certainly by the end of the 3rd. Maybe the evidence doesn't support it, but it seems like finding a real stud OT after the 2nd or 3rd round seems incredibly rare.

Either way, the 1st 2 picks make sense, and by that point, I could see where it wouldn't make sense to reach for an OT.

My memory might also be failing me here too, but unlike OT, it seems finding quality DBs from the 4th round on is much more likely so going there for need makes sense.

I think this is a team still building and is a lot more than one player away. I have no idea what will become of the individual players, but I like the approach.

I think Morgan Moses would have made a lot of sense at the end of round 2.

 

[pollardsvision]

It seemed like a good draft to me. It seemed like they were taking a long-term approach with the earlier picks instead of reaching for immediate needs. Then addressing some needs later in the draft picking up a couple of nice DBs.

The obvious issue is not taking an OT, but it's very possible they didn't see a true difference maker by the end of the 2nd, when they took their best value pick in Ealy, and certainly by the end of the 3rd. Maybe the evidence doesn't support it, but it seems like finding a real stud OT after the 2nd or 3rd round seems incredibly rare.

Either way, the 1st 2 picks make sense, and by that point, I could see where it wouldn't make sense to reach for an OT.

My memory might also be failing me here too, but unlike OT, it seems finding quality DBs from the 4th round on is much more likely so going there for need makes sense.

I think this is a team still building and is a lot more than one player away. I have no idea what will become of the individual players, but I like the approach.

I think Morgan Moses would have made a lot of sense at the end of round 2.

They definitely screwed up if they are wrong on him.

Clearly they don't see him as a stud, and if they don't, taking Ealy instead makes sense to me. The Seahawks know a thing or two about drafting OL, and passed on him a couple picks later to take an OT that many thought was a late-round pick. So, if they don't see a stud OT in Morgan, they aren't alone.

 

[The Commish]

Panthers GM Dave Gettleman to Skype in to draft Day 3

I think it's great. Family should be a priority and technology really eliminates the need to be in any particular place to do anything.

You still feel that way after yesterday's effort? Did we really need another RB with Stewart, DW, Tolbert, and Barner under contract? IMO you might as well have walked up to the podium and said we're giving the rest of you a chance to compete with us and are just going to pass on this pick.

What's the difference that he made the pick over Skype or in person? Is it not the pick that is at issue for you or is it really that he did it over skype....that it would have been ok if he had done it in person or something?

 

[omally]

Panthers GM Dave Gettleman to Skype in to draft Day 3

I think it's great. Family should be a priority and technology really eliminates the need to be in any particular place to do anything.

You still feel that way after yesterday's effort? Did we really need another RB with Stewart, DW, Tolbert, and Barner under contract? IMO you might as well have walked up to the podium and said we're giving the rest of you a chance to compete with us and are just going to pass on this pick.

I don't see the difference it makes whether it was Skyped or in person. As for the RB pick, Gettleman said that Williams and Stewart have a lot of wear and tear on them, and that the RB they drafted is very good at picking up the blitz. There are other things they like about him, but that was a big thing.

 

[omally]

It seemed like a good draft to me. It seemed like they were taking a long-term approach with the earlier picks instead of reaching for immediate needs. Then addressing some needs later in the draft picking up a couple of nice DBs.

The obvious issue is not taking an OT, but it's very possible they didn't see a true difference maker by the end of the 2nd, when they took their best value pick in Ealy, and certainly by the end of the 3rd. Maybe the evidence doesn't support it, but it seems like finding a real stud OT after the 2nd or 3rd round seems incredibly rare.

Either way, the 1st 2 picks make sense, and by that point, I could see where it wouldn't make sense to reach for an OT.

My memory might also be failing me here too, but unlike OT, it seems finding quality DBs from the 4th round on is much more likely so going there for need makes sense.

I think this is a team still building and is a lot more than one player away. I have no idea what will become of the individual players, but I like the approach.

I think Morgan Moses would have made a lot of sense at the end of round 2.

They definitely screwed up if they are wrong on him.

Clearly they don't see him as a stud, and if they don't, taking Ealy instead makes sense to me. The Seahawks know a thing or two about drafting OL, and passed on him a couple picks later to take an OT that many thought was a late-round pick. So, if they don't see a stud OT in Morgan, they aren't alone.

Gettleman said they didn't feel like the OTs left were better than what they already have on the roster. He also said they didn't feel the need to pull the trigger on another WR in the draft, because they have a young roster to work with.

 

[Jayrok]

I am kinda meh on this draft as a whole, but I don't dislike the first 3 picks. DG stated that they had Ealy valued in the first round and were still looking at best player available at the end of the 2nd and was excited to see him still there. Then they got the OL in the 3rd. I guess he is content with the tackles already on the team.

Here's hoping we find some unsigned talent before camp. Victor Hampton, DB, went undrafted out of USC (The real one!). I think he was better in college than Captain Munnerlyn, who has been a good DB for the Cats. Good cover guy and can return punts if needed as well.

 

[Jayrok]

Panthers GM Dave Gettleman to Skype in to draft Day 3

I think it's great. Family should be a priority and technology really eliminates the need to be in any particular place to do anything.

You still feel that way after yesterday's effort? Did we really need another RB with Stewart, DW, Tolbert, and Barner under contract? IMO you might as well have walked up to the podium and said we're giving the rest of you a chance to compete with us and are just going to pass on this pick.

Gaffney was a surprise, but he does seem to fit in with the offensive style they seem to want. He is a smash-mouth between the tackles runner and can be a load to bring down. Could see him and Tolbert in the backfield on goal line/short yardage packages.. especially since Stewart will be injured most of the season.

 

[Jayrok]

We've apparently singed these guys too:

Carrington Byndom CB Texas
Corey Brown WR Ohio State
Marcus Lucas WR Missouri
Jared Wheeler OL Miami
Shaq Rowell DL South Carolina
Andrew Norwell OL Ohio State
Darrin Reaves RB UAB

Marcus Lucas is interesting.. another big WR (6'4/218).

 

[BassNBrew]

Panthers GM Dave Gettleman to Skype in to draft Day 3

I think it's great. Family should be a priority and technology really eliminates the need to be in any particular place to do anything.

You still feel that way after yesterday's effort? Did we really need another RB with Stewart, DW, Tolbert, and Barner under contract? IMO you might as well have walked up to the podium and said we're giving the rest of you a chance to compete with us and are just going to pass on this pick.

What's the difference that he made the pick over Skype or in person? Is it not the pick that is at issue for you or is it really that he did it over skype....that it would have been ok if he had done it in person or something?

Mostly the pick.

Interesting that we traded up and dumped a later pick. Seemed like a 1/2 work day for us.

 

[Sweetness_34]

Wow....it was clear that they were on a mission to fix the cap issues. I'll give them a B with opportunity to get to A- depending on how things go. Benjamin will be an instant red zone threat which is what they need, but it'll be a couple years before he's an actual #1 IMO. There's still a lot of undrafted talent out there. When the Panthers didn't take a WR I was hoping Gallon would go undrafted, but the Pats scooped him up in the last round.

Love these red zone threat comments.....you are never going to be in the red zone with no WRs on your team and no OL to protect Cam. Expect a huge drop off this year....I ain't drafting a single Panther in any of my drafts. Let some other sucker draft towel-boy

 

[pantherclub]

It seemed like a good draft to me. It seemed like they were taking a long-term approach with the earlier picks instead of reaching for immediate needs. Then addressing some needs later in the draft picking up a couple of nice DBs.

The obvious issue is not taking an OT, but it's very possible they didn't see a true difference maker by the end of the 2nd, when they took their best value pick in Ealy, and certainly by the end of the 3rd. Maybe the evidence doesn't support it, but it seems like finding a real stud OT after the 2nd or 3rd round seems incredibly rare.

Either way, the 1st 2 picks make sense, and by that point, I could see where it wouldn't make sense to reach for an OT.

My memory might also be failing me here too, but unlike OT, it seems finding quality DBs from the 4th round on is much more likely so going there for need makes sense.

I think this is a team still building and is a lot more than one player away. I have no idea what will become of the individual players, but I like the approach.

I like this draft a lot as well. I think Benjimen is exactly what Cam needs and you cannot pass up Ealy if you truly feel he should have gone in the first. The Giants won a super bowl vs one of the best teams in nfl history with this same philosophy of acquiring a ton of pass rushers. Dwill is on the wrong side of 30 and Stewart cannot stay healthy. The guard from LSU should start right away. I think in fact that this is a solid draft that addresses a lot of holes. I will say I am not sure about the Boston pick as I dont remember him being very good at UNC. Burnt a lot in fact. Other than that I really like this draft and it gives us flexibility for the next couple of years esp if ealy hits.

 

[pantherclub]

Wow....it was clear that they were on a mission to fix the cap issues. I'll give them a B with opportunity to get to A- depending on how things go. Benjamin will be an instant red zone threat which is what they need, but it'll be a couple years before he's an actual #1 IMO. There's still a lot of undrafted talent out there. When the Panthers didn't take a WR I was hoping Gallon would go undrafted, but the Pats scooped him up in the last round.

Love these red zone threat comments.....you are never going to be in the red zone with no WRs on your team and no OL to protect Cam. Expect a huge drop off this year....I ain't drafting a single Panther in any of my drafts. Let some other sucker draft towel-boy

you should totally bump your drafting with guppies thread

 

[pantherclub]

It seemed like a good draft to me. It seemed like they were taking a long-term approach with the earlier picks instead of reaching for immediate needs. Then addressing some needs later in the draft picking up a couple of nice DBs.

The obvious issue is not taking an OT, but it's very possible they didn't see a true difference maker by the end of the 2nd, when they took their best value pick in Ealy, and certainly by the end of the 3rd. Maybe the evidence doesn't support it, but it seems like finding a real stud OT after the 2nd or 3rd round seems incredibly rare.

Either way, the 1st 2 picks make sense, and by that point, I could see where it wouldn't make sense to reach for an OT.

My memory might also be failing me here too, but unlike OT, it seems finding quality DBs from the 4th round on is much more likely so going there for need makes sense.

I think this is a team still building and is a lot more than one player away. I have no idea what will become of the individual players, but I like the approach.

I think Morgan Moses would have made a lot of sense at the end of round 2.

A lot of people think he is too slow for LT.

 

[Jayrok]

It seemed like a good draft to me. It seemed like they were taking a long-term approach with the earlier picks instead of reaching for immediate needs. Then addressing some needs later in the draft picking up a couple of nice DBs.

The obvious issue is not taking an OT, but it's very possible they didn't see a true difference maker by the end of the 2nd, when they took their best value pick in Ealy, and certainly by the end of the 3rd. Maybe the evidence doesn't support it, but it seems like finding a real stud OT after the 2nd or 3rd round seems incredibly rare.

Either way, the 1st 2 picks make sense, and by that point, I could see where it wouldn't make sense to reach for an OT.

My memory might also be failing me here too, but unlike OT, it seems finding quality DBs from the 4th round on is much more likely so going there for need makes sense.

I think this is a team still building and is a lot more than one player away. I have no idea what will become of the individual players, but I like the approach.

I like this draft a lot as well. I think Benjimen is exactly what Cam needs and you cannot pass up Ealy if you truly feel he should have gone in the first. The Giants won a super bowl vs one of the best teams in nfl history with this same philosophy of acquiring a ton of pass rushers. Dwill is on the wrong side of 30 and Stewart cannot stay healthy. The guard from LSU should start right away. I think in fact that this is a solid draft that addresses a lot of holes. I will say I am not sure about the Boston pick as I dont remember him being very good at UNC. Burnt a lot in fact. Other than that I really like this draft and it gives us flexibility for the next couple of years esp if ealy hits.

I listened to DG's presser when he talked about Ealy.. said you can never have enough pass rushers, never, ever. Especially when he is a projected first round value.

 

[Jayrok]

Wow....it was clear that they were on a mission to fix the cap issues. I'll give them a B with opportunity to get to A- depending on how things go. Benjamin will be an instant red zone threat which is what they need, but it'll be a couple years before he's an actual #1 IMO. There's still a lot of undrafted talent out there. When the Panthers didn't take a WR I was hoping Gallon would go undrafted, but the Pats scooped him up in the last round.

Love these red zone threat comments.....you are never going to be in the red zone with no WRs on your team and no OL to protect Cam. Expect a huge drop off this year....I ain't drafting a single Panther in any of my drafts. Let some other sucker draft towel-boy

Hey thanks for the head's up! I don't expect this team to repeat the exact success they had last season, but I didn't realize we would regress so much that we will never even be in the red zone this season. Good to know. Let us know how all your fantasy team drafts shape up this season.

 

[NCCommish]

Panthers GM Dave Gettleman to Skype in to draft Day 3

I think it's great. Family should be a priority and technology really eliminates the need to be in any particular place to do anything.

You still feel that way after yesterday's effort? Did we really need another RB with Stewart, DW, Tolbert, and Barner under contract? IMO you might as well have walked up to the podium and said we're giving the rest of you a chance to compete with us and are just going to pass on this pick.

Yeah. We took an RB in the 6th when we have one RB that is over 30 and another that can't stay on the field. Further we want to dump both at our first chance for cap reasons. I call that not being Marty Hurney and waiting until you have to go buy a replacement.

 

[NCCommish]

It seemed like a good draft to me. It seemed like they were taking a long-term approach with the earlier picks instead of reaching for immediate needs. Then addressing some needs later in the draft picking up a couple of nice DBs.

The obvious issue is not taking an OT, but it's very possible they didn't see a true difference maker by the end of the 2nd, when they took their best value pick in Ealy, and certainly by the end of the 3rd. Maybe the evidence doesn't support it, but it seems like finding a real stud OT after the 2nd or 3rd round seems incredibly rare.

Either way, the 1st 2 picks make sense, and by that point, I could see where it wouldn't make sense to reach for an OT.

My memory might also be failing me here too, but unlike OT, it seems finding quality DBs from the 4th round on is much more likely so going there for need makes sense.

I think this is a team still building and is a lot more than one player away. I have no idea what will become of the individual players, but I like the approach.

I like this draft a lot as well. I think Benjimen is exactly what Cam needs and you cannot pass up Ealy if you truly feel he should have gone in the first. The Giants won a super bowl vs one of the best teams in nfl history with this same philosophy of acquiring a ton of pass rushers. Dwill is on the wrong side of 30 and Stewart cannot stay healthy. The guard from LSU should start right away. I think in fact that this is a solid draft that addresses a lot of holes. I will say I am not sure about the Boston pick as I dont remember him being very good at UNC. Burnt a lot in fact. Other than that I really like this draft and it gives us flexibility for the next couple of years esp if ealy hits.

I listened to DG's presser when he talked about Ealy.. said you can never have enough pass rushers, never, ever. Especially when he is a projected first round value.

Ealy is leverage. Johnson is 11 million against the cap next year we aren't paying that. We don't know if Hardy will be resigned. Well Ealy can do everything that Hardy can including playing 3 technique. Pay for DEs just went down in Carolina.

 

[The Commish]

Wow....it was clear that they were on a mission to fix the cap issues. I'll give them a B with opportunity to get to A- depending on how things go. Benjamin will be an instant red zone threat which is what they need, but it'll be a couple years before he's an actual #1 IMO. There's still a lot of undrafted talent out there. When the Panthers didn't take a WR I was hoping Gallon would go undrafted, but the Pats scooped him up in the last round.

Love these red zone threat comments.....you are never going to be in the red zone with no WRs on your team and no OL to protect Cam. Expect a huge drop off this year....I ain't drafting a single Panther in any of my drafts. Let some other sucker draft towel-boy

Hey thanks for the head's up! I don't expect this team to repeat the exact success they had last season, but I didn't realize we would regress so much that we will never even be in the red zone this season. Good to know. Let us know how all your fantasy team drafts shape up this season.

Better draft Gano...looks like he's gonna be busy from 40+ all year!!