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****The 2019 Carolina Panthers Thread**** We Rhule At Losing (1 Viewer)

Agree with the above sentiments. AJ Klein looked very sharp. Melvin White stood out to me making plays all over. Norman needs to get his temper under control, Ron was not happy. Our kick team is ridiculous. Brad Nortman is the 2nd coming of Ray Guy....seriously a 73 yard punt? Gano booted a 70 yard field goal in practice as well.

 
Agree with the above sentiments. AJ Klein looked very sharp. Melvin White stood out to me making plays all over. Norman needs to get his temper under control, Ron was not happy. Our kick team is ridiculous. Brad Nortman is the 2nd coming of Ray Guy....seriously a 73 yard punt? Gano booted a 70 yard field goal in practice as well.
Forgot about Klein. He is looking good. Nice job on the interception. He is making the case to take Blackburn's job.

 
Agree with the above sentiments. AJ Klein looked very sharp. Melvin White stood out to me making plays all over. Norman needs to get his temper under control, Ron was not happy. Our kick team is ridiculous. Brad Nortman is the 2nd coming of Ray Guy....seriously a 73 yard punt? Gano booted a 70 yard field goal in practice as well.
Nortman's punt had the distance for a 85-90 yard punt as it rolled through the end zone. That is ridiculous. On the other hand, the other punter was awful in the second half. He'll get a bus ticket next week.

 
Agree with the above sentiments. AJ Klein looked very sharp. Melvin White stood out to me making plays all over. Norman needs to get his temper under control, Ron was not happy. Our kick team is ridiculous. Brad Nortman is the 2nd coming of Ray Guy....seriously a 73 yard punt? Gano booted a 70 yard field goal in practice as well.
Nortman's punt had the distance for a 85-90 yard punt as it rolled through the end zone. That is ridiculous. On the other hand, the other punter was awful in the second half. He'll get a bus ticket next week.
He was really just a camp leg anyway.

 
Kelvin has great hands. I am glad they signed Avant and Cotchery. I wouldn't want to start the season with King and McNutt out there.
If the kid lives up to his potential (and he's certainly looking the part in the early going), your GM should be lauded as a genius for signing Avant and Cotchery. By themselves, no one would rightly consider either to be world beaters, but both being savvy vets, and with different skill sets that are complementary to KB's on the field, you don't need them to be, and they're looking to provide an experienced, and cheap, support network for developing their young prospect...if King has anything more than a 3rd gear, and can actually be a credible deep threat that D's have to at least put a guy on, I am going to completely revamp my expectations of this passing offense, which heretofore I have to admit, I've largely ignored.

ETA: I don't mean I'm drafting either Cotchery or Avant, or King, but I've already bumped up Olsen a bit, Newton a bit more (where I was passing on both, but now would consider), and I'll put myself in position to draft Benjamin in redraft, and for sure look to acquire him in dynasty.

 
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Got to have lunch with Joe DeLamielleure today. For those of you who don't know who him he is a former Bill's lineman who is in the Hall of Fame. Well known for stymieing Joe Greene. Anyway got a chance to ask him about Bell. He said Bell doesn't have the footwork to be a top tackle. He does think the Panthers are making a lot of good moves. He thinks they are setting themselves up well for a long stay at the top and that while they may not win as many games this year they will actually play better as a team. Turns out he wasn't a Steve Smith fan either. Didn't like his attitude and blamed him for a lot of Cams interceptions saying his demand for the ball caused Cam to force it and it hurt the team.

It always interesting to meet with Joe he has so much going on. And he does have CTE not sure which stage but supposedly fairly advanced. Doctors ask him why he isn't showing more symptoms. He says it's because he never took the prescription pain killers they used to hand out like candy after a game. He didn't use steroids or illegal drugs and he was never a drinker. Also he goes to mass everyday.

 
Curious - Can anyone find anything to bash Gettleman about? I'd pretty much hand him the keys to my liquor cabinet and gun vault, give him my atm pin, and feel good about it.

 
I liked what I saw from the 1's. I thought our 1s beat their 1s.

Cam was obviously rusty and frustrated early on. But he got his groove going there a bit. I like that he had to run around a bit, as long as there no setbacks, that should help his confidence in the ankle. The O line looked better than last week. They got some push in run blocking and for the most part protected Cam. They got shown a lot of blitzes and held up pretty well mostly. Against a pretty good defense. Benjamin had a chance for another highlight catch but Cam was still shaking off the rust. For a slow guy he sure gets behind Ds on a fairly regular basis. Man JStew is looking good. Can he hold up? I thought Fozzy looked really good last night. Barner better turn into a PR return whiz or he isn't going to make the roster. Williams had another good game. If he keeps improving we will have Olsen's replacement on the roster.

On the defensive side again working guys back in took them a few to really turn it on but when they did it looked real good. Sacks by Luke and Star bode well for the regular season, You want to be blowing up the middle so the QB has no where to step up. White played well. Cason stepped up and looked like a starter. All in all pretty confident the D is going to keep us in most games.

Philly Brown looked good returning kicks and punts. Further hurting Barner and Pilares chances of sticking. Gano looked good as well.

So as I said I think our 1s handled their 1s pretty well. I think we showed some nice depth and it seems no one got hurt. Win, win ,win.
Barner is history

http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap3000000380950/article/eagles-acquire-kenjon-barner-from-panthers

 
Conditional draft pick next year.. better than just cutting him next week.

I'm also happy with the job Gettleman is doing. I do, however, wish he was able to pull a couple of good offensive linemen out of a hat somewhere.

 
Curious - Can anyone find anything to bash Gettleman about? I'd pretty much hand him the keys to my liquor cabinet and gun vault, give him my atm pin, and feel good about it.
Tough to fault him with how well he's pulling this team together. Easy to nitpick at the late RB draft picks, IMO, but that doesn't guarantee they get a contributor elsewhere if they take someone else with that pick. The OL is the only place I can think to potentially fault him, and that's due to Kugbila's selection, not getting an OT this year, and spending the picks (late ones) on guys that IMO didn't have much of a chance of sticking (Gaffney, Barner).

Even with all that said, I'm pretty happy to have the guy. I'm not sure if it's BLETSO or GMan or the combination, but they've unearthed some gems IMO in the UDFAs they've brought in. Reaves now has a solid chance to stick with Barner gone... that makes me happy.

 
Curious - Can anyone find anything to bash Gettleman about? I'd pretty much hand him the keys to my liquor cabinet and gun vault, give him my atm pin, and feel good about it.
Not really. No one hits on every pick and everyone takes some flyers. But in general he has made the right call many times. I do think a lot of the blame Hurney shouldered really should have fallen on Richardson. It's my understanding from several people that it was Richardson who wanted the huge contract for Jake, for one example, not Hurney. I think Gman gets a lot more room to do his thing than Hurney did.

 
I liked what I saw from the 1's. I thought our 1s beat their 1s.

Cam was obviously rusty and frustrated early on. But he got his groove going there a bit. I like that he had to run around a bit, as long as there no setbacks, that should help his confidence in the ankle. The O line looked better than last week. They got some push in run blocking and for the most part protected Cam. They got shown a lot of blitzes and held up pretty well mostly. Against a pretty good defense. Benjamin had a chance for another highlight catch but Cam was still shaking off the rust. For a slow guy he sure gets behind Ds on a fairly regular basis. Man JStew is looking good. Can he hold up? I thought Fozzy looked really good last night. Barner better turn into a PR return whiz or he isn't going to make the roster. Williams had another good game. If he keeps improving we will have Olsen's replacement on the roster.

On the defensive side again working guys back in took them a few to really turn it on but when they did it looked real good. Sacks by Luke and Star bode well for the regular season, You want to be blowing up the middle so the QB has no where to step up. White played well. Cason stepped up and looked like a starter. All in all pretty confident the D is going to keep us in most games.

Philly Brown looked good returning kicks and punts. Further hurting Barner and Pilares chances of sticking. Gano looked good as well.

So as I said I think our 1s handled their 1s pretty well. I think we showed some nice depth and it seems no one got hurt. Win, win ,win.
Barner is history

http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap3000000380950/article/eagles-acquire-kenjon-barner-from-panthers
He was getting cut so at least we got something. And I wouldn't be surprised if he does OK in Philly. It's a much more gadgety offense. We are not really trying to fool anyone when you get down to it. We play power run football and that really isn't Barner's thing.

 
Current roster after cutting to 53:

Quarterbacks (3) -- Cam Newton, Derek Anderson, Joe Webb - this group is set no changes expected with other teams cuts

Running backs (4) -- DeAngelo Williams, Jonathan Stewart, Mike Tolbert, Fozzy Whittaker - same as QB

Wide Receivers (5) --Kelvin Benjamin, Jerricho Cotchery, Jason Avant, Brenton Bersin, Philly Jones - wouldn't be surprised if they grabbed someone for this group

Tight ends (4) -- Greg Olsen, Ed Dickson, Brandon Williams, Richie Brockel - pretty much set

Offensive linemen (10) -- Ryan Kalil, Byron Bell, Nate Chandler, Amini Silatolu, Trai Turner, Garry Williams, Fernando Velasco, Brian Folkerts, Andrew Norwell, David Foucault - kind of surprised by the Scott cut but maybe he will stop showing up out of shape if he gets another chance.

Ends (5) -- Greg Hardy, Charles Johnson, Mario Addison, Kony Ealy, Wes Horton - Alexander was Rivera's camp MVP expect them to find him a spot.

Tackles (4) -- Star Lotulelei, Colin Cole, Kawann Short, Dwan Edwards - set

Linebackers (6) -- Luke Kuechly, Thomas Davis, Chase Blackburn, A.J. Klein, Jason Williams, Ben Jacobs - set

Cornerbacks (5) -- Antoine Cason, Melvin White, Charles Godfrey, Josh Norman, Bene' Benwik - maybe a vet comes in if he is cheap? But really I think they stand pat.

Safeties (4) -- Roman Harper, Thomas DeCoud, Colin Jones, Tre Boston - Little surprised to see Boston over Lester. But Lester regressed some this year it seemed and he is now on the practice squad.

Specialists (3) -- Place-kicker Graham Gano, punter Brad Nortman, deep snapper J.J. Jansen - Nortman is really coming on and Gano is set.

 
I liked what I saw from the 1's. I thought our 1s beat their 1s.

Cam was obviously rusty and frustrated early on. But he got his groove going there a bit. I like that he had to run around a bit, as long as there no setbacks, that should help his confidence in the ankle. The O line looked better than last week. They got some push in run blocking and for the most part protected Cam. They got shown a lot of blitzes and held up pretty well mostly. Against a pretty good defense. Benjamin had a chance for another highlight catch but Cam was still shaking off the rust. For a slow guy he sure gets behind Ds on a fairly regular basis. Man JStew is looking good. Can he hold up? I thought Fozzy looked really good last night. Barner better turn into a PR return whiz or he isn't going to make the roster. Williams had another good game. If he keeps improving we will have Olsen's replacement on the roster.

On the defensive side again working guys back in took them a few to really turn it on but when they did it looked real good. Sacks by Luke and Star bode well for the regular season, You want to be blowing up the middle so the QB has no where to step up. White played well. Cason stepped up and looked like a starter. All in all pretty confident the D is going to keep us in most games.

Philly Brown looked good returning kicks and punts. Further hurting Barner and Pilares chances of sticking. Gano looked good as well.

So as I said I think our 1s handled their 1s pretty well. I think we showed some nice depth and it seems no one got hurt. Win, win ,win.
Barner is history

http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap3000000380950/article/eagles-acquire-kenjon-barner-from-panthers
He was getting cut so at least we got something. And I wouldn't be surprised if he does OK in Philly. It's a much more gadgety offense. We are not really trying to fool anyone when you get down to it. We play power run football and that really isn't Barner's thing.
And Philly cut him so we get nothing.

 
Being reported we are working out Stephen Hill. Would be a serious project. Lots of speed but not great route running and allegedly iffy hands. Fly route guy. His agent has been lobbying for him to land here as he thinks Proehl can whip him into shape and turn him into a real receiver. Blames the Jets for his lack of progress.

 
Homers: what are your predictions about season stats for DeAngelo Williams for 2014?

Contracts & Cuts are due in my favorite Dynasty League by midnight Tuesday, and I have DAW on a 1-year deal, but my Team is loaded with prospects I'm trying to keep under the cap, and I could use the roster spot more than the 1 year. I have a bunch of other RB that fall into the same general range as DAW, which by fbg's rankings have him as a borderline RB2/RB3 (ppr) for a 16-teamer.

I've always been enamored with DAW, and I've owned him for a few years hoping for more, but he never seems to be more than an RB2 at best, and a mid-to-low-end one at that. I know from experience that projecting him has a lot to do with Jon Stewart, who (for now) appears to be healthy and capable of making an impact. But who knows how long that might last. Benjamin looks like the real deal, and if that holds true, it makes Cam and Olsen better (I personally like Cotchery and Avant teamed with a productive Benjamin, making the entire Panthers passing game more likeable to me), which should, in theory, make the entire offense more balanced and productive.

If I felt I could get high-end RB2 (ppr) production out of Williams, like, say, RB20, I'd be inclined to keep him, otherwise I'd rather release or trade him to make room for some of my young prospects.

What say ye, Panthers faithful?

 
should I be starting Benjamin with confidence? my understanding is the talent is there... does he figure to get enough targets right off the bat?

 
I own DWill and Stewart and I'd love for one to emerge as The Guy. I just don't see it happening. Even if Stewart continues to look great on his carries, I don't see him getting more carries than Williams. A split at best, with several carries each game going to Tolbert. I think Panthers coaches would love to have two RBs providing 4+ ypc. To see either get most of the carries, the other would have to be seriously under performing (or be injured). No one is 'running away' with the job, IMO.

 
Fever in the Funkhouse said:
I own DWill and Stewart and I'd love for one to emerge as The Guy. I just don't see it happening. Even if Stewart continues to look great on his carries, I don't see him getting more carries than Williams. A split at best, with several carries each game going to Tolbert. I think Panthers coaches would love to have two RBs providing 4+ ypc. To see either get most of the carries, the other would have to be seriously under performing (or be injured). No one is 'running away' with the job, IMO.
Not sure this is true. Williams was sat down for Stewart already once. If Stewart stays healthy then I could see him getting the majority of the touches. DW is on the wrong side of 30 and no longer seems to have quite the burst he did. Plus this team wants to run between the tackles and that isn't Williams thing.

 
Peyton Marino said:
should I be starting Benjamin with confidence? my understanding is the talent is there... does he figure to get enough targets right off the bat?
He is being played like a true number one. I think he is going to get a ton of targets.

 
nittanylion said:
Homers: what are your predictions about season stats for DeAngelo Williams for 2014?

Contracts & Cuts are due in my favorite Dynasty League by midnight Tuesday, and I have DAW on a 1-year deal, but my Team is loaded with prospects I'm trying to keep under the cap, and I could use the roster spot more than the 1 year. I have a bunch of other RB that fall into the same general range as DAW, which by fbg's rankings have him as a borderline RB2/RB3 (ppr) for a 16-teamer.

I've always been enamored with DAW, and I've owned him for a few years hoping for more, but he never seems to be more than an RB2 at best, and a mid-to-low-end one at that. I know from experience that projecting him has a lot to do with Jon Stewart, who (for now) appears to be healthy and capable of making an impact. But who knows how long that might last. Benjamin looks like the real deal, and if that holds true, it makes Cam and Olsen better (I personally like Cotchery and Avant teamed with a productive Benjamin, making the entire Panthers passing game more likeable to me), which should, in theory, make the entire offense more balanced and productive.

If I felt I could get high-end RB2 (ppr) production out of Williams, like, say, RB20, I'd be inclined to keep him, otherwise I'd rather release or trade him to make room for some of my young prospects.

What say ye, Panthers faithful?
If Stew stays healthy Williams is the change of pace guy. This team wants to power run. One cut then downhill. That's Stewart not Williams.

 
NCCommish said:
Current roster after cutting to 53:

Quarterbacks (3) -- Cam Newton, Derek Anderson, Joe Webb - this group is set no changes expected with other teams cuts

Running backs (4) -- DeAngelo Williams, Jonathan Stewart, Mike Tolbert, Fozzy Whittaker - same as QB

Wide Receivers (5) --Kelvin Benjamin, Jerricho Cotchery, Jason Avant, Brenton Bersin, Philly Jones - wouldn't be surprised if they grabbed someone for this group

Tight ends (4) -- Greg Olsen, Ed Dickson, Brandon Williams, Richie Brockel - pretty much set

Offensive linemen (10) -- Ryan Kalil, Byron Bell, Nate Chandler, Amini Silatolu, Trai Turner, Garry Williams, Fernando Velasco, Brian Folkerts, Andrew Norwell, David Foucault - kind of surprised by the Scott cut but maybe he will stop showing up out of shape if he gets another chance.

Ends (5) -- Greg Hardy, Charles Johnson, Mario Addison, Kony Ealy, Wes Horton - Alexander was Rivera's camp MVP expect them to find him a spot.

Tackles (4) -- Star Lotulelei, Colin Cole, Kawann Short, Dwan Edwards - set

Linebackers (6) -- Luke Kuechly, Thomas Davis, Chase Blackburn, A.J. Klein, Jason Williams, Ben Jacobs - set

Cornerbacks (5) -- Antoine Cason, Melvin White, Charles Godfrey, Josh Norman, Bene' Benwik - maybe a vet comes in if he is cheap? But really I think they stand pat.

Safeties (4) -- Roman Harper, Thomas DeCoud, Colin Jones, Tre Boston - Little surprised to see Boston over Lester. But Lester regressed some this year it seemed and he is now on the practice squad.

Specialists (3) -- Place-kicker Graham Gano, punter Brad Nortman, deep snapper J.J. Jansen - Nortman is really coming on and Gano is set.
DIdn't Lester get hurt in one of the preseason games?

 
NCCommish said:
Current roster after cutting to 53:

Quarterbacks (3) -- Cam Newton, Derek Anderson, Joe Webb - this group is set no changes expected with other teams cuts

Running backs (4) -- DeAngelo Williams, Jonathan Stewart, Mike Tolbert, Fozzy Whittaker - same as QB

Wide Receivers (5) --Kelvin Benjamin, Jerricho Cotchery, Jason Avant, Brenton Bersin, Philly Jones - wouldn't be surprised if they grabbed someone for this group

Tight ends (4) -- Greg Olsen, Ed Dickson, Brandon Williams, Richie Brockel - pretty much set

Offensive linemen (10) -- Ryan Kalil, Byron Bell, Nate Chandler, Amini Silatolu, Trai Turner, Garry Williams, Fernando Velasco, Brian Folkerts, Andrew Norwell, David Foucault - kind of surprised by the Scott cut but maybe he will stop showing up out of shape if he gets another chance.

Ends (5) -- Greg Hardy, Charles Johnson, Mario Addison, Kony Ealy, Wes Horton - Alexander was Rivera's camp MVP expect them to find him a spot.

Tackles (4) -- Star Lotulelei, Colin Cole, Kawann Short, Dwan Edwards - set

Linebackers (6) -- Luke Kuechly, Thomas Davis, Chase Blackburn, A.J. Klein, Jason Williams, Ben Jacobs - set

Cornerbacks (5) -- Antoine Cason, Melvin White, Charles Godfrey, Josh Norman, Bene' Benwik - maybe a vet comes in if he is cheap? But really I think they stand pat.

Safeties (4) -- Roman Harper, Thomas DeCoud, Colin Jones, Tre Boston - Little surprised to see Boston over Lester. But Lester regressed some this year it seemed and he is now on the practice squad.

Specialists (3) -- Place-kicker Graham Gano, punter Brad Nortman, deep snapper J.J. Jansen - Nortman is really coming on and Gano is set.
DIdn't Lester get hurt in one of the preseason games?
He sprained his ankle in the third pre-season game. He also had a minor shoulder injury. But even before that he hadn't shown much in the way of progress.

 
Admittedly late to the party on Brenton Bersin here, but he's a big kid with strong work ethic and one sweet, sweet mane. Cotchery's great for the slot and mentoring these guys, but Bersin 4th on the depth chart has some appeal if the talent is there to climb. Avant isn't exactly Everest when it comes to the hurdle to covercome to pass him on the depth chart, I wouldn't think.

What does everyone think about Bersin? I know they've worked on developing him, and I trust in Ricky Proehl. Bersin cut as an UDFA as a rook, then kept on the practice squad last year, then cracks the 53 this year... now what's next?

 
Admittedly late to the party on Brenton Bersin here, but he's a big kid with strong work ethic and one sweet, sweet mane. Cotchery's great for the slot and mentoring these guys, but Bersin 4th on the depth chart has some appeal if the talent is there to climb. Avant isn't exactly Everest when it comes to the hurdle to covercome to pass him on the depth chart, I wouldn't think.

What does everyone think about Bersin? I know they've worked on developing him, and I trust in Ricky Proehl. Bersin cut as an UDFA as a rook, then kept on the practice squad last year, then cracks the 53 this year... now what's next?
He could become a very good slot/possession type receiver. He is tall at 6'3". He has good hands and has really developed his route running. Just not elite speed. 4.6 40 time.

 
Admittedly late to the party on Brenton Bersin here, but he's a big kid with strong work ethic and one sweet, sweet mane. Cotchery's great for the slot and mentoring these guys, but Bersin 4th on the depth chart has some appeal if the talent is there to climb. Avant isn't exactly Everest when it comes to the hurdle to covercome to pass him on the depth chart, I wouldn't think.

What does everyone think about Bersin? I know they've worked on developing him, and I trust in Ricky Proehl. Bersin cut as an UDFA as a rook, then kept on the practice squad last year, then cracks the 53 this year... now what's next?
Way more valuable in real life than fantasy

Gentleman's shtick even when talking about WRs has been "answer is on the roster" ...

Now Bersin is the only one left from when he was preaching that.

Just coachspeak or is the staff really confident in Bersin? we'll see

 
So we signed Hill to the practice squad. I guess he was serious about learning from Proehl. Man if Ricky can work his magic we could be set at WR for a long time. Hill is actually younger than KB I think. And he ran a 4.36 40 at the combine. Did I mention he is also 6'4"? Imagine if you will KB and Hill on the field at the same time. Imagine Hill is actually playing to his potential and KB is continuing to do so. It's kind of exciting. Hill is an odd case though. He highpointed balls in college but seemed to lose that ability with the Jets. He ran through defenders, even good ones, in college and seem to lose that ability with the Jets. He played well in the intermediate game in college but again seemed to lose that ability with the Jets. So I am wondering could it possibly be a case of crap coaching in NY really leading us here? Or is he simply not NFL material? I sure am hoping it's the coaching thing. But it sure will be cheap to find out I guess.

 
Oh and if you haven't watched the Huddle Up series with Cam you really should. It's very good and he addresses some things that I don't think I have ever heard him talk about in interviews. It was a very good series.

 
So we signed Hill to the practice squad. I guess he was serious about learning from Proehl. Man if Ricky can work his magic we could be set at WR for a long time. Hill is actually younger than KB I think. And he ran a 4.36 40 at the combine. Did I mention he is also 6'4"? Imagine if you will KB and Hill on the field at the same time. Imagine Hill is actually playing to his potential and KB is continuing to do so. It's kind of exciting. Hill is an odd case though. He highpointed balls in college but seemed to lose that ability with the Jets. He ran through defenders, even good ones, in college and seem to lose that ability with the Jets. He played well in the intermediate game in college but again seemed to lose that ability with the Jets. So I am wondering could it possibly be a case of crap coaching in NY really leading us here? Or is he simply not NFL material? I sure am hoping it's the coaching thing. But it sure will be cheap to find out I guess.
Hill is one of the more baffling flops I've seen. Dominant in college (when GT threw the ball), and the measurables are there too.

No idea what'll happen, but certainly worth a shot to see if he can turn it around in a new situation.

 
Hill flopping Is somewhat baffling considering DHB was never cut.

40 ish career college catches. Sanchez/Tebow debacle at QB one year and then Geno's rookie year the next. I can't be too surprised about the lack of production.

Considering his youth/injury history I like the low risk gamble but I have zero expectations.


 
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It's nice to finally win the first game of the season. The last time that happened was in 2008. :thumbup: to Anderson for doing a good job in Cam's place.

 
92 yards and a TD. Pretty nice for the bust of the draft. Got to like going on the road with your backup QB and getting the win.Cam wanting to run on the field made me chuckle. You could tell how badly he wanted to be part of it. DA was very efficient today which really wasn't his thing back in the day. That overthrow to Olsen hurt though. Sure touchdown. D looked good until late. That roughing call was crap and without I don't think we see the momentum swing. But in the end Luke saved the day and was a force all day. The much maligned O-line played very well against someone many tout as the best DT in football and a D line expected to be elite, Bell didn't give up one sack or get one penalty as far as I can tell. Chandler held up well. Turner got beat for the one sack but he is a rook it is going to happen. All in all though he looked good.

So a road win against a division rival setting up the possibility of a sweep and putting us one game up on the Saints. I'll take it,

 
DA was very efficient today which really wasn't his thing back in the day. That overthrow to Olsen hurt though. Sure touchdown.
I was pleasantly surprised with how Anderson played today. I won't hold that overthrow against him. Cam usually has at least one bad overthrow per game. Nice road win!!

 
DA was very efficient today which really wasn't his thing back in the day. That overthrow to Olsen hurt though. Sure touchdown.
I was pleasantly surprised with how Anderson played today. I won't hold that overthrow against him. Cam usually has at least one bad overthrow per game. Nice road win!!
DA probably wanted the guys to feel at home. I stated a couple of days ago that if i was the coach, DA was starting regardless. He's our best QB until Cam can run again.

 
Nice opening day for KB. Great hands and awareness. O-line was the biggest surprise for me. They played great against a stout defensive line. DA played really well, though the missed INT was very lucky.

I thought the play calling was excellent for the most part and they did a good job of keeping the RBs rotating in and out. Controlled the clock for most of the game. Defense played great and they came up with the big play when needed.

 
Wonderful, wonderful game.

All that was missing was a signature Tolbert moment.

I don't ask for much, but this season, I want a number of things every game..

1. The defense to be awesome

2. A couple big Tolbert moments

3. A 4th down conversion with cameras showing at least half a dozen Riverboat Ron posters

4. 2 Kelvin highlights

 
Nice opening day for KB. Great hands and awareness. O-line was the biggest surprise for me. They played great against a stout defensive line. DA played really well, though the missed INT was very lucky.

I thought the play calling was excellent for the most part and they did a good job of keeping the RBs rotating in and out. Controlled the clock for most of the game. Defense played great and they came up with the big play when needed.
This for me. I think it was well called from the Shula's perspective as well. Lots of short/intermediate routes that actually help the o-line. If there's one thing I hope Cam noticed/observed yesterday it's getting the ball out of his hands quickly. They'll be very successful if he does this.

 
Greg Hardy won’t be cut by Panthers

Posted by Mike Florio on September 12, 2014, 3:07 PM EDT
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As the NFL tries to strike the delicate balance between respecting a player’s due-process rights in domestic violence cases and imposing discipline on a player based on an investigation conducted by the team or the league, the Panthers have opted not to take action against defensive end Greg Hardy.

Contrary to a report from Charlotte that the Panthers may cut Hardy by 4:00 p.m. ET on Friday, the Panthers tell PFT that Hardy won’t be cut.

It would be ludicrous to cut him at this point. As a franchise player receiving a fully-guaranteed salary of $13.1 million per year, the Panthers would still pay him the 16 remaining game checks, at a total payout of $12.3 million for nothing in return.

The Panthers could have tried to suspend Hardy up to four weeks without pay for conduct detrimental to the team, and the league could have opted to swoop in and apply the personal-conduct policy before Hardy has a trial by jury. But that’s not how the personal-conduct policy works for most first-time offenders.

Still, as the NFL struggles to display sufficient sensitivity to domestic violence victims, the league needs to consider adopting a more aggressive in-house protocol for investigating whether the player did or didn’t do what he is accused of doing. Otherwise, the time-honored double standard will apply, with teams hiding behind vague notions of the Constitution to justify keeping great players in the lineup and making examples out of the scrubs
 
Coach has come out and said that Hardy will be playing this weekend. I agree it makes ZERO sense to cut him now, both from a football standpoint and a moral standpoint. Football standpoint is outlined above and morally, that ship sailed waiting this long IMO. I am confident Richardson will say that he wants to see "the process" unfold before taking action.

 
Coach has come out and said that Hardy will be playing this weekend. I agree it makes ZERO sense to cut him now, both from a football standpoint and a moral standpoint. Football standpoint is outlined above and morally, that ship sailed waiting this long IMO. I am confident Richardson will say that he wants to see "the process" unfold before taking action.
Unfortunately I just dont see Hardy as a Panther next year.

Keep in mind this is the same team that stood by Steve Smith not once but twice after he sucker punched a teammate ending ones career. This pack mentality is revolting.

 
Coach has come out and said that Hardy will be playing this weekend. I agree it makes ZERO sense to cut him now, both from a football standpoint and a moral standpoint. Football standpoint is outlined above and morally, that ship sailed waiting this long IMO. I am confident Richardson will say that he wants to see "the process" unfold before taking action.
Unfortunately I just dont see Hardy as a Panther next year.

Keep in mind this is the same team that stood by Steve Smith not once but twice after he sucker punched a teammate ending ones career. This pack mentality is revolting.
What it comes down to is getting sued. What everyone seems to forget is Ray Rice confessed. He was found guilty and given a sentence. He didn't appeal or ever claim to be innocent. Hardy is appealing his sentence his guilt or innocence is still up to a jury. If the Panthers cut him now the Players Union would start paying lawyers. The NFL has asked the teams to let the legal process work through and then to let the league take the lead on punishment to avoid as much court time as possible.

 

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