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****The 2019 Carolina Panthers Thread**** We Rhule At Losing (2 Viewers)

NCCommish said:
IIRC he has 11 TDs to 1 int since the Chicago game. And he has had several games with  a QBR over 100.
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People see what they want to see.  

I also understand there is an in depth story coming out about jerry that is going to look hiroshima bad.   Dude thought he was the king.  

 
pantherclub said:
People see what they want to see.  

I also understand there is an in depth story coming out about jerry that is going to look hiroshima bad.   Dude thought he was the king.  
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Yeah you had to figure there was a lot more.

I think Rivera will probably regret the Mr Richardson deal to break down the team in the locker room. That was pretty dumb really especially knowing it would go viral once put on the Panthers site like it was and did. Although the team.is trying to extend him. If I were him I would sign before the sale.

 
NCCommish said:
IIRC he has 11 TDs to 1 int since the Chicago game. And he has had several games with  a QBR over 100.
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 He also has 8 games this season with a passer rating (which I assume you meant) under 72, and his QBR for the season is 52.2, which is 20th best this season among QBs who are eligible. 

Like I said earlier, he is awesome at running the ball considering he is a QB, but he is a crappy passer.  His inconsistency is more than obvious.  With his arm and size, he should be a great passer, but he's not.  He misses tons of easy throws on a regular basis. 

 
Ghost Rider said:
 He also has 8 games this season with a passer rating (which I assume you meant) under 72, and his QBR for the season is 52.2, which is 20th best this season among QBs who are eligible. 

Like I said earlier, he is awesome at running the ball considering he is a QB, but he is a crappy passer.  His inconsistency is more than obvious.  With his arm and size, he should be a great passer, but he's not.  He misses tons of easy throws on a regular basis. 
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I hope you realize his shoulder was gimpy at the beginning of the year but again people just see what they want to with Cam.

 
pantherclub said:
Pretty obvious you didnt watch the game
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I didn't need to; I have seen enough of Newton's games over the years to know that he is an inconsistent thrower of the football.  Inconsistent is probably the word I should have used rather than crappy (since he does make throws that are great, which is why the many he misses are mystifying). 

Serious question: do you really think he is a consistent passer? 

 
Ghost Rider said:
I didn't need to; I have seen enough of Newton's games over the years to know that he is an inconsistent thrower of the football.  Inconsistent is probably the word I should have used rather than crappy (since he does make throws that are great, which is why the many he misses are mystifying). 

Serious question: do you really think he is a consistent passer? 
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I don't think anyone in this thread will deny he's inconsistent.

 
Ghost Rider said:
I didn't need to; I have seen enough of Newton's games over the years to know that he is an inconsistent thrower of the football.  Inconsistent is probably the word I should have used rather than crappy (since he does make throws that are great, which is why the many he misses are mystifying). 

Serious question: do you really think he is a consistent passer? 
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No.  But that doesn't make him a bad passer.  

 
pantherclub said:
No.  But that doesn't make him a bad passer.  
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His 11 TDs to 2 Ints over the last 6 games is the best in the NFL in that span. And he has averaged nearly a 95 passer rating in that span.

 
NCCommish said:
His 11 TDs to 2 Ints over the last 6 games is the best in the NFL in that span. And he has averaged nearly a 95 passer rating in that span.
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His passer rating was under 66 in 3 of those 6 games, hence the inconsistency I was referring to. And he threw for under 200 yards in 4 of those 6 games.  And his QBR stunk in 4 of the 6 games (even the one where he had 2 TDs and 0 INTs). 

 
Ghost Rider said:
His passer rating was under 66 in 3 of those 6 games, hence the inconsistency I was referring to. And he threw for under 200 yards in 4 of those 6 games.  And his QBR stunk in 4 of the 6 games (even the one where he had 2 TDs and 0 INTs). 
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And yet overall in those 6 games the team.is 5-1 and his TD to interception ratio is the best in the league. This isn't a pass happy offense. It is a power running offense there are going to be days when the passing yardage is going to be low. As I said Newton is inconsistent and streaky no argument but he is playing within the system so low yardage games should be expected even when he is on. Hard to fault him for that. Rivera and company would run the ball every play if they thought they could and win.

 
NCCommish said:
And yet overall in those 6 games the team.is 5-1 and his TD to interception ratio is the best in the league. This isn't a pass happy offense. It is a power running offense there are going to be days when the passing yardage is going to be low. As I said Newton is inconsistent and streaky no argument but he is playing within the system so low yardage games should be expected even when he is on. Hard to fault him for that. Rivera and company would run the ball every play if they thought they could and win.
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You can't run a pass happy when you have an inconsistent (and often times, crappy) passer.  Rivera is a run first/defense type of coach anyway, so it's a good fit.   With that defense, the less Cam throws the ball, the better shape the team is in. 

 
Wow that was ugly.  Saints are going to crush us by 20.  Wish we could have gotten LA or Atlanta at home.

 
Chaz McNulty said:
I don't think you wanted the Rams.  At home to Atlanta would have been best.
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I could be wrong, but would prefer their inexperience over Brees.  Also the Saints have crushed us twice this year.  I also think we could handle Gurley better than Kamara.  Lastly, Saints have a far superior home field crowd.

 
BassNBrew said:
I could be wrong, but would prefer their inexperience over Brees.  Also the Saints have crushed us twice this year.  I also think we could handle Gurley better than Kamara.  Lastly, Saints have a far superior home field crowd.
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I take solace in the historical fact that it is very hard to beat a team 3 times in one season, that perhaps everyone was a little too comfy knowing they were in regardless and that the loss took that out of them. We'll see I guess. But there is no doubt it won't be easy.

 
So the Atlanta defense didn't have to worry much about Panthers receivers as there was no one capable of taking the top off the defense. You cover the underneath and don't worry about someone getting behind you. This situation issue to injuries of course. Maybe it's time to bring in a familiar face that excelled in our last playoff run at receiver, Philly Brown. He has the speed, he knows the offense and he has proven himself in big games. Seems like a no brainier to me.

 
NCCommish said:
So the Atlanta defense didn't have to worry much about Panthers receivers as there was no one capable of taking the top off the defense. You cover the underneath and don't worry about someone getting behind you. This situation issue to injuries of course. Maybe it's time to bring in a familiar face that excelled in our last playoff run at receiver, Philly Brown. He has the speed, he knows the offense and he has proven himself in big games. Seems like a no brainier to me.
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:goodposting:

Things are bleak when you have virtually no weapons.  

 
We in for a beating on Sunday.

Then it looks like we are going to get the pick of the litter at WR.  Sucks to have that as a need position....again along with Oline

 
So what would we think of bringing Jimmy Graham in? He's a pretty likely free agent and he would add a playmaker to an offense that loves throwing to the tight end.

 
We have any chance at all today panther fans?  Cannot imagine a scenario outside of Brees getting hurt in warmups and even then its iffy with their run game.  I will watch but expect a 14 point loss

 
pantherclub said:
We have any chance at all today panther fans?  Cannot imagine a scenario outside of Brees getting hurt in warmups and even then its iffy with their run game.  I will watch but expect a 14 point loss
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There is always a chance. The teams know each other well. If the offense and defense are on their game, the cats can win.  I don't expect a win, but there is a chance. 

 
simey said:
There is always a chance. The teams know each other well. If the offense and defense are on their game, the cats can win.  I don't expect a win, but there is a chance. 
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Sure there is a chance but this is probably the worst team we match up with in the nfl.  We have a weak passing game and the have some good corners. We have struggled at stopping the run and they excel at it.  And then there is their passing game and we cannot seem to get pressure on him due to his quick release so that eliminates our X factor pass rush.  Pulling hard for the cats but man it's an uphill battle.  

 
pantherclub said:
Expand how you think we can win?  If its. Shoot out i do not like our chances
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I know it's an uphill battle and we don't match up against them very well.  But I believe if Cam is on and determined, he is very hard to stop.  I'm hoping he has fixed his, whatever it was that caused him to sail the ball last week, issue and they can establish some type of run game.  Don't want a shootout either as that is gauranteed lights out.  I feel like the defense will play better against Ingram and their run game.  If we can keep it close (sub 24 pts allowed) and have a chance late in the 4th, we'll win by a FG.  If they can't slow down Ingram/Kamara, then we're toast.  I'm hoping for a pick 6 or sack fumble TD from the defense and/or a big play on special teams.  Hey, gotta have hope!  

 
Ugh Funchess should have made that catch. They gave it a good game. Could have won it. I was watching that game thread, and the Cam hate in it is just weird. What a bunch of assholes constantly demeaning Cam. 

 
Well.  I tried.  A good game there, but if we had just one of those TDs instead of FG in the first half... And/or if Gano doesn't miss the first FG, we'd be setting up for the game winning FG at the end. 

The ball was gift wrapped for funchess to win it. What Happened there? Go up and fight for the ball! 

 
simey said:
Ugh Funchess should have made that catch. They gave it a good game. Could have won it. I was watching that game thread, and the Cam hate in it is just weird. What a bunch of assholes constantly demeaning Cam. 
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There are lots of clowns in the this forum that have hated Cam since he was drafted.  I ignore them.

 
I don't get why the INT wasn't reviewed. Had it been the WR catching it it would have gone through a 10 minute review. Wtf?  BTW, why not knock the ball down, genius?  Holy crap, you're an NFL player.  Again, WTF? 

 
Jayrok said:
I don't get why the INT wasn't reviewed. Had it been the WR catching it it would have gone through a 10 minute review. Wtf?  BTW, why not knock the ball down, genius?  Holy crap, you're an NFL player.  Again, WTF? 
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In the heat of the moment, the natural reaction of a defensive player is to intercept it. I am actually surprised the Panthers did as well as they did this year, and most of it was without Olsen. It was a disappointing ending since Funchess should have caught that, but we had a surprisingly good season. 

 
elbowrm said:
Benjamin sure would have been helpful at the end.
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Maybe. Benjamin dropped a critical pass in the Bills game, and Funchess runs a better route tree, and knows all the WR positions unlike Benjamin. I don't think the Panthers were good enough to go all the way, but it is just disappointing when we had a real chance to win this game. The off-season will be interesting in seeing who will be the owners, etc.

 
simey said:
In the heat of the moment, the natural reaction of a defensive player is to intercept it. I am actually surprised the Panthers did as well as they did this year, and most of it was without Olsen. It was a disappointing ending since Funchess should have caught that, but we had a surprisingly good season. 
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Well I disagree there. I played DB (at a much lower level, of course) and I can tell you that those guys know the situation. They even had a timeout before the play to go over the situation. No reason to make that mistake. 

But I agree with you that we had a good year. We need more weapons and protection for Cam. Great to make the playoffs, though. 

 
elbowrm said:
Benjamin sure would have been helpful at the end.
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LOL. I was just getting ready to post that. Benjamin already home down one big game winning catch. Nother bang up job by KearnyLOL. I was just getting ready to post that. Benjamin already home down one big game winning catch. Nother bang up job by Kearny

 
That we got as close as we did is impressive. We made more than a few mistakes. Really missing a chip shot FG? But hey the D made more than one mistake as did the O. It was a team loss. Still statistically we outperformed the Saints in many areas. We just needed one more score than we had.

I don't know if we had a deep run in us but regardless this team didn't quit and fought until the end not sure what else to ask for 

 
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