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So you guys are serious about the baseball card thing?
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Koya
Footballguy
It's a pretty easy fix from a continuity standpoint. Now, I am assuming that is said 1987... if it happened to be a 1987 card but didn't say that and the player was playing a few years earlier, then it's a near total pass in my book.
Considering it's a first year tight budget basic cable show, I give a bit more leway to having a newer model truck because if something like that sneaks in during filming, it's going to be a ##### to work it out. A baseball card is something on a totally controlled on set, inside environment.
I should also add, when people are nitpicking about this stuff and saying its just not up to the level of the Wire, that's evidence enough that we have a really good show here, imo.
Thunderlips
Footballguy
No. I enjoy the show a lot. I don't think it's revolutionary or has the real potential to shock; but I think it's well done and interesting. I just notice baseball cards. If I only had a couple of gripes...they would be that:
A) the show should have a little bit more period music in it. When they utilized it (Tusk in the Premiere, Games Without Frontiers in the finale)....it really added to the scene.
B) I like the idea of the deep cover "family"; but it does kind of limit REAL moments of action or legit intrigue. History's history. They can give us the occasional undocumented wetwork (like Granny Kill).....but it's not like any person of historical stature is going to be in danger of anything. The deep cover family facade limits the main characters from going to the U.S.S.R....or East Germany or some place in which there would be a little more gray area to fudge history.
Good Posting Judge
Footballguy
The first wireless TV remote hit the market in 1956.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2007/02/16/AR2007021602102.html
Uruk-Hai
Footballguy
I read an interview with the showrunners where they acknowledged the errors they made as rookies (continuity errors as well as others). Don't recall specifically whether they mentioned the baseball cards, though.
That being said, I think this one of the best seasons any TV show has had - ever. I never really though about it, but one recapper summed up why I like this show so much - the characters drive the plot instead of the reverse. The few mistakes the show has made have been when they've tried to use plot to move the characters around.
I also get pissed by the "well, we no how things panned out so where's the suspense?" crowd. 10s, 100s, 1000s of people had their lives affected in the "real world" by the Cold War and we know very little of that.
In any case, kudos to the showrunners, writers, directors, and actors. Phillip, Stan, Nina, Granny, Gregory, and freaking John Boy are all doing awesome work. To hear Richard Thomas say "GDammit!" on national TV flips my childhood upside down and I love it.
That being said, I think this one of the best seasons any TV show has had - ever. I never really though about it, but one recapper summed up why I like this show so much - the characters drive the plot instead of the reverse. The few mistakes the show has made have been when they've tried to use plot to move the characters around.
I also get pissed by the "well, we no how things panned out so where's the suspense?" crowd. 10s, 100s, 1000s of people had their lives affected in the "real world" by the Cold War and we know very little of that.
In any case, kudos to the showrunners, writers, directors, and actors. Phillip, Stan, Nina, Granny, Gregory, and freaking John Boy are all doing awesome work. To hear Richard Thomas say "GDammit!" on national TV flips my childhood upside down and I love it.
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Koya
Footballguy
I don't get this at all. Who cares that we know the US wins. Do they get caught? Kids end up secretly shuffled back to the USSR? How do their lives and missions change as #### hits the fan. So much room for suspense cold war outcome be damned.
Uruk-Hai
Footballguy
I hear you, my brother. Just reporting.
By NOT having the show contrive Michael Bay kind of #### is its great triumph - it;s the "little", personal tradgedies that drive home the hellishness of it all.
Insein
Footballguy
Gold
Homer J Simpson
I don't push
Maybe they put the baseball cards in there on purpose to see how long it would take interweb dorks to notice.
The Kuhn
Footballguy
I'll admit that the interactions between Phil and Elizabeth (this episode they're off, next they're on) have been more convenient than logical, but the thing that works for me about this show is that it can still pull some surprises (Elizabeth's beatdown of Granny, Stan shooting Vlad, Nina's turn). I half-expected Stan to shoot Nina in the safehouse after the botched capture attempt (or at least take it out on her somehow)...make her second guess her decision.
Hopefully this gets some Emmy love- I think Rhys and Martindale have been solid season-long, and even Russell has had some solid moments (even if she's considered the "weak link").
Hopefully this gets some Emmy love- I think Rhys and Martindale have been solid season-long, and even Russell has had some solid moments (even if she's considered the "weak link").
meanjoegreen
Footballguy
biggamer3
Footballguy
I just started watching this show, want to say that this post nailed my thoughts. I will watch the whole season as there is nothing better to watch and I have some free days now finally. Excellent acting but that scene with the jumper cables was probably the worst writing I have ever seen in a show that was supposed to be real. I understand it was in there to raise some red flags for the FBI dude, but there were other ways he could have "seen" the vehicle without it being completely insane to risk a 20 year KGB mission for nothing. What would have happened in Mr Ball Gag would have moved like a bear when the trunk opened? And why wouldnt he make a scene he was going to die if he wasnt saved? So not only did it make no sense to go to garage it made no sense for baddy to remain silent.
Watching episode 2 and 3 now....
biggamer3
Footballguy
Ok, five episodes in now, forget my last post about nitpicking the first episode, this show is amazing! Every show can be nitpicked to death such as Breaking Bad (train heist=Fast and Furious) and Homeland obviously. This show has been extremely entertaining and suspenseful so far.
Koya
Footballguy
Koya
Footballguy
Yes. NIna and the new fiancé upped to full timers
Homer J Simpson
I don't push
God, I love Nina. The treason I would do for that one...
Aerial Assault
Footballguy
Yeah, she's incredibly sexy. Very good actress, too, and she actually sounds Russian since IIRC one of her parents (her dad?) is Russian. Fantastic casting. Her story with Stan is utterly and totally believable and she and Emmerich have real chemistry.
biggamer3
Footballguy
Ok episode 6 might go down as an all time great episode for me from any show. I think I can watch that scene where fat piglett walks in and says enough and then the subsequent beatdown by Natasha with the "Tell whoever approved this that your FACE is a present from me to them, show them your face, SHOW IT TO THEM!!!"
Damn I loved that scene, watched it about 5 times. If it was up to me Natasha gets the award right now, screw Carrie from Homeland and her craziness.
While stating that this was an all timer for me, I did have some little nitpicks from the episode. I have been reading the thread up until each episode I watch (PS best way to watch a show is follow the old FBG posts about it, nothing else compares to this on the web) and see everyone hated the hitch hiker story. When he picked up the kids i was thinking to myself please dont let this dude be a creep, just have him deliver the kids home for crissakes, but of course they went the silly route to waste some time on the kids.
Also I didnt understand why the recorder was that easy to sneak into the KGB place and hard to sneak out, shouldnt there be the same security on incoming and outgoing personnel? Also wouldnt Nina's name be brought up by the framed dude instantly? He cant be that dumb, she has to be mentioned as the possible framer and thus extra security put on her asap.
PS I love whoever keeps calling the main couple Boris and Natasha in this thread
Damn I loved that scene, watched it about 5 times. If it was up to me Natasha gets the award right now, screw Carrie from Homeland and her craziness.
While stating that this was an all timer for me, I did have some little nitpicks from the episode. I have been reading the thread up until each episode I watch (PS best way to watch a show is follow the old FBG posts about it, nothing else compares to this on the web) and see everyone hated the hitch hiker story. When he picked up the kids i was thinking to myself please dont let this dude be a creep, just have him deliver the kids home for crissakes, but of course they went the silly route to waste some time on the kids.
Also I didnt understand why the recorder was that easy to sneak into the KGB place and hard to sneak out, shouldnt there be the same security on incoming and outgoing personnel? Also wouldnt Nina's name be brought up by the framed dude instantly? He cant be that dumb, she has to be mentioned as the possible framer and thus extra security put on her asap.
PS I love whoever keeps calling the main couple Boris and Natasha in this thread
Raider Nation
Devil's Advocate
Loving the biggamer shtick. From "worst writing ever" to "greatest show ever" in about 10 minutes.
biggamer3
Footballguy
No shtick from me. If it was shtick I would keep to my shtick.
Never did I say greatest show ever, I said that episode was an all timer for me. Show is very solid and getting better with each episode, nothing can be an all time show until 3-4 seasons IMO.
Just being honest that garage scene in the first episode was absolutely disgusting for such a great show, if not for the amazing reviews and my friends telling me to watch the show, i might have given up after that one episode. I guarantee the showrunner would not have that scene in anymore if he had the chance. Just was so dumb on so many levels, but glad there was nothing close to that stupid in the following episodes. That scene was supposed to raise the red flags for Stan about his neighbors but in the following 5 episodes he has shown nothing to indicate he suspects them of being spies now, so that scene was totally uncalled for even though they wanted to add extra drama to the Stan- Boris relationship.
BTW My all timer list of best episodes is mostly the Shield and Breaking Bad episodes...be back later to discuss the remaining eps, binge watching now!
biggamer3
Footballguy
yep, just finished the season, every episode besides for the 11th one were excellent. The 11th was the episode where Elizabeth kidnapped the cia guy and released him. That rang so false since they were risking an actual cia guy to reveal there disguises and know about the warehouse. The feds could have shut down the entire city to search for such a warehouse or whatever. Also thought the finale was amazing though having Stan watch the kids was silly since he could have hired a sitter. Also the sick aunt excuse probably wouldn't hold up since the kids would be like "what aunt, we have no family"
Officer Pete Malloy
Footballguy
I'll tell you that I thought the pilot was terrible. The second episode was no prize either. I was very surprised to watch this show improve throught the season.
It's nowhere near "great" but it did move into "pretty good" territory.
Raider Nation
Devil's Advocate
The wigs never improved.
Insein
Footballguy
You certainly didn't like the first 2 as evidenced by my sig.
3C's
Footballguy
Raider Nation
Devil's Advocate
I was merely being humorous. It was in reply to this:
collective
Footballguy
Don't forget the marriage when the guy said "state of Virginia" instead of "Commonwealth of Virginia".
Psychopav
Help us, Joebi-Wan Brynobi, you're our only ho
So do people think we threw out our Star Wars sheets when Empire came out? Because I can assure you, we did not.
Insein
Footballguy
Some info. Nothing major and it's been out there since June.
http://www.idigitaltimes.com/articles/18400/20130620/americans-season-2-premiere-date-spoilers-plot.htm
http://www.idigitaltimes.com/articles/18400/20130620/americans-season-2-premiere-date-spoilers-plot.htm
Raider Nation
Devil's Advocate
Brady Marino
Footballguy
Effing network TV.
Koya
Footballguy
collective
Footballguy
wadegarrett
FFA Legend™
shader
Footballguy
Doctor Detroit
Please remove your headgear
I think a big part of it was them just trying to get a second season and for the show to catch on. I think they'll open up the storytelling some in the second season, and maybe we'll get to know some of the secondary characters better.
Officer Pete Malloy
Footballguy
Uruk-Hai
Footballguy
The first couple of episodes were bad, but I think it hit its stride pretty early and ran smoothly to the end - the Gregory episodes were two of the best TV eps I saw all year. I think it's pretty damned good (much better than trash I enjoy like Walking Dead & AHS).
Officer Pete Malloy
Footballguy
Oh it definitely got better. Much better. But it's still not really award-worthy IMO.
biggamer3
Footballguy
Yeah, Homeland season 2 was winning awards left and right. The Wire was never nominated for anything, the awards shows are just popularity contests without actually judging the content of the shows.
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