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Definitely hope the main characters don't get whacked.  Except Paige of course.  They still have a son?  

 
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When Kerri Said she was tired of treating Paige like a Kid and then went to her room to teach her how to control her emotions I was REALLY hoping she'd smack that look off her face and say "CONTROL IT!!!"  

:kicksrock:

 
tough crowd

what makes the show great is that it's a slow burn to develop the story instead of "the head of a massive terrorist organization" gets caught every episode complete with 250 bystander deaths and 13 car chases. 

which is what this would be if it were on CBS

 
mr. furley said:
tough crowd

what makes the show great is that it's a slow burn to develop the story instead of "the head of a massive terrorist organization" gets caught every episode complete with 250 bystander deaths and 13 car chases. 

which is what this would be if it were on CBS
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Yes.  And wigs.  

 
mr. furley said:
tough crowd

what makes the show great is that it's a slow burn to develop the story instead of "the head of a massive terrorist organization" gets caught every episode complete with 250 bystander deaths and 13 car chases. 

which is what this would be if it were on CBS
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you keep throwing out this false choice. there's a massive space between these 2 extremes. The Americans has, for the most part, hit the right balance, nicely on the slow end of the spectrum. But they've had 2 episodes - S5E1's hole-digging & one last season (i think) with a car stakeout - that crossed over the line from cool-slow to boring-slow.

ymmv

 
oso diablo said:
you keep throwing out this false choice. there's a massive space between these 2 extremes. The Americans has, for the most part, hit the right balance, nicely on the slow end of the spectrum. But they've had 2 episodes - S5E1's hole-digging & one last season (i think) with a car stakeout - that crossed over the line from cool-slow to boring-slow.

ymmv
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i'm only doing it because it's an old joke between friends. 

but, it does confuse me that people are jumping ship after 2 episodes of season 5 after 4 excellent seasons preceding this one. too "hey, look, squirrel!" for me.

eta: there's always Better Call Saul for youse plebes. IT MOVES LIKE A FREIGHT TRAIN!

@The Gator

 
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mr. furley said:
i'm only doing it because it's an old joke between friends. 

but, it does confuse me that people are jumping ship after 2 episodes of season 5 after 4 excellent seasons preceding this one. too "hey, look, squirrel!" for me.

eta: there's always Better Call Saul for youse plebes. IT MOVES LIKE A FREIGHT TRAIN!

@The Gator
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There's more than two seasons of this drivel? :deadbanana:

 
PlasmaDogPlasma said:
It feels like they have too many story lines and are barely advancing any of them.
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I dunno. There wasn't a lot of physical action in the last episode, but I think some things happened. I think both Stan & Oleg had their stories change quite a bit (or became aware that they had already changed). "The Talk" with Paige struck me as more than half-creepy, but I don't know if it was meant that way. And the smaller-arc espionage plot became clearer.

I don't really care all that much about the spy stuff in this show, which is probably for the best because those plots probably wouldn't stand up to too much scrutiny. I like most all of the characters, though, and think they're well-written/acted. Plus, I think knowing how the (first?) Cold War ended makes me more interested in the individual outcomes.

 
Wife and I are a little over half-way through season 2.  I like it ...she loves it.  I get aggravated with the number of all dark scenes where you can't see what the hell is going on.  

Can someone tell me why the young russian girl agent poisoned/killed the goofy, southern, coke-snorting congressman?  

 
Solid Episode.  Really starting to see Phillip have thoughts slowly contemplating what it's really like back in Russia.  I'm finding myself having to put on closed caption when the Russian Agriculture guy speaks in English.

 
Still one of my favorite shows but there is too much with Paige. You would think they would be raising tougher kids from an early age. I actually started fast forwarding through the digging scene, couldn't believe how long that went on. I thought the multiple car driving scene from last week was going to go on too long as well.

They seem to usually take a couple of episodes to set up the season and I have no worry that it'll be a good one again. I hope they don't do a cliffhanger at the end with Stan finally catching on.

 
jamny said:
Still one of my favorite shows but there is too much with Paige. You would think they would be raising tougher kids from an early age. I actually started fast forwarding through the digging scene, couldn't believe how long that went on. I thought the multiple car driving scene from last week was going to go on too long as well.

They seem to usually take a couple of episodes to set up the season and I have no worry that it'll be a good one again. I hope they don't do a cliffhanger at the end with Stan finally catching on.
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cliffhangers are the worst

 
jamny said:
Still one of my favorite shows but there is too much with Paige. You would think they would be raising tougher kids from an early age. I actually started fast forwarding through the digging scene, couldn't believe how long that went on. I thought the multiple car driving scene from last week was going to go on too long as well.

They seem to usually take a couple of episodes to set up the season and I have no worry that it'll be a good one again. I hope they don't do a cliffhanger at the end with Stan finally catching on.
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IMO, Page is crucial to the show b/w she will be the driving force around the potential outcomes of the series.  

There's got to be some point where Stan finds out who they are....way too much invested in the plot to do otherwise.  Page is front and center b/c she's dating Matthew...maybe she says/does something that makes Stan find out?  Maybe Stan finds out on his own and uses Page as bait?   This puts both Stan, Phil and Elizabeth at a crossroads for different reasons.  Does Stan try to convince Phil to turn?  Does Phil agree but Elizabeth doesn't?  Does Elizabeth kill Stan...etc.  Tons of possibilities, with Page impacting of the decisions of all of them.  

 
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mr. furley said:
yeah, but, less of her and Matthew making out
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Agree. Obviously Paige is the key to Stan finding out but they've been working that story since last year and I think most people see it coming. It goes back to even her preacher friend. I just want less of her and more Russians/spy stuff. Minor gripe as I still like the show a lot.

I guess they've abandoned any attempt of having the son involved. He was useless from the beginning. They did a poor job of writing him into the story. 

 
jamny said:
Agree. Obviously Paige is the key to Stan finding out but they've been working that story since last year and I think most people see it coming. It goes back to even her preacher friend. I just want less of her and more Russians/spy stuff. Minor gripe as I still like the show a lot.

I guess they've abandoned any attempt of having the son involved. He was useless from the beginning. They did a poor job of writing him into the story. 
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It seems like the other son is going to be major factor though. Either he gets nabbed and Phillip has to try to free him from the system or he gets to the States and tells Phillip things that drive him further down the road of questioning the system.

 
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PlasmaDogPlasma said:
It seems like the other son is going to be major factor though. Either he gets nabbed and Phillip has to try to free him from the system or he gets to the States and tells Phillip things that drive him further down the road of questioning the system.
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Yeah, forgot about him (didn't see last nights ep) That's a really interesting development.

 
Tiger Fan said:
IMO, Page is crucial to the show b/w she will be the driving force around the potential outcomes of the series.  

There's got to be some point where Stan finds out who they are....way too much invested in the plot to do otherwise.  Page is front and center b/c she's dating Matthew...maybe she says/does something that makes Stan find out?  Maybe Stan finds out on his own and uses Page as bait?   This puts both Stan, Phil and Elizabeth at a crossroads for different reasons.  Does Stan try to convince Phil to turn?  Does Phil agree but Elizabeth doesn't?  Does Elizabeth kill Stan...etc.  Tons of possibilities, with Page impacting of the decisions of all of them.  
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At some point, Stan and Aderholt, who seem to be searching for Russians to turn, will happen upon the bitter Russian guy who Phil and Elizabeth are working, right? That seems to be where this is headed. If the Russian defector is helping the CIA to use insects to poison the Soviets' grain supply, and Stan finds him, he can use the guy to force the CIA to back off of Oleg. In the process, it would put Stan in the Jennings' crosshairs, since Stan would be meddling in their operation.

 
phandango said:
At some point, Stan and Aderholt, who seem to be searching for Russians to turn, will happen upon the bitter Russian guy who Phil and Elizabeth are working, right? That seems to be where this is headed. If the Russian defector is helping the CIA to use insects to poison the Soviets' grain supply, and Stan finds him, he can use the guy to force the CIA to back off of Oleg. In the process, it would put Stan in the Jennings' crosshairs, since Stan would be meddling in their operation.
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:thumbup:   Or maybe Stan invites the agriculturist & Phil over for beers at the same time!

 
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I think Phillip is mad about how his Topeka contact is lame and Elizabeth is getting action from her guy there. 
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I think Phillip just doesn't want to do that stuff anymore and it shows - he's half-assing it. I thought Elizabeth might be trending the same way, until that last conversation between the two of them.

Stan's just about all-the-way screwed now, and Oleg's close.

 
now we know why Henry hasn't been on until now. he grows 2" between each show taping. christ.  was that even the same actor? they can't possibly have him standing next to anyone else in the family this season anymore. he dwarfs them all now.

 
Wow, that might have been my favorite episode so far.  Seems like they're really turning a corner here, and the likability of Philip is going to pay off big time as he becomes more and more aware of what's going on.

 
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Do you think it's real? Hippie dude is legit but other people in his company are bad? Everyone in the company is good guys and there's no issue? 

I agree that last night's ep was really good.
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I was also leaning towards "hippie dude" is doing what he believes will help many.. Meanwhile his company is selling the bugs.. Find it interesting that now they know he isn't a "bad guy" she still is going back to spend time with him in next weeks episode. :mellow:  

 
Yeah I'm no plant/bug expert, but wouldn't the same logic apply to making the bugs stronger as well.  I would assume that the main customer for the company is the US gov't...which could easily hide the funding under the rouse that they're doing exactly as hippie guy said.  Or a combo of selling/giving the stronger grain to the countries the US had humanitarian efforts going on at that time AND shipping the stronger pests to Russia to destroy their crops.

 
jfranco77 said:
Do you think it's real? Hippie dude is legit but other people in his company are bad? Everyone in the company is good guys and there's no issue? 

I agree that last night's ep was really good.
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I don't know if it's real. It could be both, as you guys have said. I just didn't expect it.

You know who DOES think it's real, though? Phillip & Elizabeth. And it's got Phillip really close to going on tilt.

I got a chuckle out of the Henry scenes. I think there was some meta stuff in there, too, about not having Henry appear more on the show.

 
Great episode last night IMO.  Did a great job balancing really digging into the insights of each of the main characters while setting up the rest of the series as well.

 
Hasn't been a good season, imo. Still watching but it's tough to stay too interested. Needs more spy stuff and intrigue.

 
Elizabeth seeing Grain Boy with another woman seemed to throw her, as did Phillip trying to "Martha" Deirdre and finding out she just wanted him sometimes around for sex. Neither seems to be able to set up honeypots as well as they thought (or used to).

I'm curious about Gabriel's parting words about Paige to each parent, because it was way different in each case.

 
I realized I was never going to be able to find time to watch the whole series again so I read the recaps for season 3 and 4. Miss out on the shock value that way but at least I'm caught up to where we are.

 
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