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"The Bachelor" on ABC (2 Viewers)

Which is more likely to happen first with the TV show The Bachelor?

  • Show gets canceled

    Votes: 69 63.9%
  • producers cast a black man as The Bachelor

    Votes: 39 36.1%

  • Total voters
    108
Pretty funny how aaron Murray's brother is listed as "former professional baseball player". Dude washed out of High a ball with a .213 career average 7 freaking years ago. Has he really done nothing since then?

 
Pretty funny how aaron Murray's brother is listed as "former professional baseball player". Dude washed out of High a ball with a .213 career average 7 freaking years ago. Has he really done nothing since then?
Splooge mopper at the porno theater doesn't have quite the same level of prestige.

 
Andi seems cute and likeable (I skipped the Juan Paaaaaaablo trainwreck). Not exactly pretty, but very cute, if that makes sense. I like her personality. For reference, loved Emily and couldn't stand Desiree.

Love the guy who was encouraged to apply by a friend dropping f-bombs and "it is what it is" on the way out. Classy!

 
Andi seems cute and likeable (I skipped the Juan Paaaaaaablo trainwreck). Not exactly pretty, but very cute, if that makes sense. I like her personality. For reference, loved Emily and couldn't stand Desiree.

Love the guy who was encouraged to apply by a friend dropping f-bombs and "it is what it is" on the way out. Classy!
I find Andi more attractive than Emily or Desiree. And she seems to have a better personality than both of them combined.

 
Why are all the men's suits too small? Jackets with short sleeves that can barely button are the thing now?
Amen. I said the same thing. I hate the emo tight suit look. It's spreading a bit around our office as all the hot-shot consultants walk around here with jackets so tight they look like spandex. It's almost to the point where if you're in your 20's, you can stand out just wearing a nice, well-fitting suit with a white shirt and a tie. Oh, and you'd better be super skinny to try that look. We have one guy who's a little portly yet still tries to pull off the slim pants and suit look...not flattering. Just looks like a Johnsonville Brat that's been on the grill too long.

 
Andi seems cute and likeable (I skipped the Juan Paaaaaaablo trainwreck). Not exactly pretty, but very cute, if that makes sense. I like her personality. For reference, loved Emily and couldn't stand Desiree.

Love the guy who was encouraged to apply by a friend dropping f-bombs and "it is what it is" on the way out. Classy!
I find Andi more attractive than Emily or Desiree. And she seems to have a better personality than both of them combined.
See, I'm not that into her. I don't find her that attractive. I think her personality is OK, but truthfully, I can never tell what is scripted and what's not with the lead bachelor/ette anymore. I didn't know DA's wore bullet proof vests and were out in the field that much...Admittedly, I didn't particularly care for Emily either. Des was OK.

I am looking forward to seeing how her Dad handles the finalists. His pitch to Juan Pablo was that he would be OK with giving his blessing once JP had decided on Andi. I wonder if he'll say the same thing to these two guys now that Andi is the one making the decisions...

 
Why are all the men's suits too small? Jackets with short sleeves that can barely button are the thing now?
Amen. I said the same thing. I hate the emo tight suit look. It's spreading a bit around our office as all the hot-shot consultants walk around here with jackets so tight they look like spandex. It's almost to the point where if you're in your 20's, you can stand out just wearing a nice, well-fitting suit with a white shirt and a tie. Oh, and you'd better be super skinny to try that look. We have one guy who's a little portly yet still tries to pull off the slim pants and suit look...not flattering. Just looks like a Johnsonville Brat that's been on the grill too long.
My son is getting married in October and he's going with this type of suit instead of a tux.. apparently at the request of the bride. I wonder what she'll think of the wedding photos when she looks at them in 10 years and thinks, huh, that suit looks ridiculous. My daughter is 26 and she thinks the suit is way too small.

 
Gonna be a boring season and result according to Reality Steve.
Good, we're skipping it, watching I Wanna Marry Harry instead. There is only so much of this crap I can tolerate, and Harry looks like it's gonna be a :tfp: of epic proportions. Plus, one guy and a bunch of dumb slutty girls vs. one kind of boring chick and a parade of annoying idiot d-bags.

 
Why are all the men's suits too small? Jackets with short sleeves that can barely button are the thing now?
Amen. I said the same thing. I hate the emo tight suit look. It's spreading a bit around our office as all the hot-shot consultants walk around here with jackets so tight they look like spandex. It's almost to the point where if you're in your 20's, you can stand out just wearing a nice, well-fitting suit with a white shirt and a tie. Oh, and you'd better be super skinny to try that look. We have one guy who's a little portly yet still tries to pull off the slim pants and suit look...not flattering. Just looks like a Johnsonville Brat that's been on the grill too long.
My son is getting married in October and he's going with this type of suit instead of a tux.. apparently at the request of the bride. I wonder what she'll think of the wedding photos when she looks at them in 10 years and thinks, huh, that suit looks ridiculous. My daughter is 26 and she thinks the suit is way too small.
...the ruffled tux shirt of this generation...

 
Andi smoking hot all show
Overall I'd say I agree with you. She is hot. But there are some camera angles mixed with facial expressions that make me think not so much. When she's dolled up with makeup she is smoking. When she's sitting listening to the guy talk she tends to turn her mouth into a duck bill at times. But I love her brown eyes and I think her personality is very cool.

 
Nice overreaction by Andi when one guy got too drunk. Looks like she flips out next week too and it's probably over something trivial again. Major red flags if you're talking marriage material. But I would like to roger the bejeebers out of her.

 
What's up with the 29 year old tax lush? Yo.. dude, I'm so wasted.. OOLLOOOL

Eric, the explorer that died after filming, had a great date and she seemed to like him a lot. I can't imagine how tough it would be for his family to watch last night. I'm guessing they didn't, but it would be tough not to watch knowing your son is on tv and is happy. Crazy.

 
Nice overreaction by Andi when one guy got too drunk. Looks like she flips out next week too and it's probably over something trivial again. Major red flags if you're talking marriage material. But I would like to roger the bejeebers out of her.
No one really stepped up to be his wing man either, but I guess when you're trying to remove the competition you would let them go down in flames like that. So no surprise there. She could only give roses to so many so I guess him getting drunk made her decision much easier.

 
Eric, the explorer that died after filming, had a great date and she seemed to like him a lot. I can't imagine how tough it would be for his family to watch last night. I'm guessing they didn't, but it would be tough not to watch knowing your son is on tv and is happy. Crazy.
No kidding. Seems like a pretty cool and interesting guy. I couldn't even watch if I was his family. That'd be too much.

FWIW, I'm just not getting into it this season. I think I'm overly sensitized to the amount of scripting. I mean, Andi's overreaction to the drunk guy was probably mostly script. I just feel like so much of the drama is staged, or overexaggerated, and it's starting to bore me. (i.e. drunk guy randomly shoves one guy, and they edit the lead-in to make it look like a brawl is about to go on) I think I'll be getting a lot of house work done while the wife watches this season.

(and yes...you all can come make fun of me when I'm still commenting on episodes with 3 guys left...) :bag:

 
Eric, the explorer that died after filming, had a great date and she seemed to like him a lot. I can't imagine how tough it would be for his family to watch last night. I'm guessing they didn't, but it would be tough not to watch knowing your son is on tv and is happy. Crazy.
No kidding. Seems like a pretty cool and interesting guy. I couldn't even watch if I was his family. That'd be too much.

FWIW, I'm just not getting into it this season. I think I'm overly sensitized to the amount of scripting. I mean, Andi's overreaction to the drunk guy was probably mostly script. I just feel like so much of the drama is staged, or overexaggerated, and it's starting to bore me. (i.e. drunk guy randomly shoves one guy, and they edit the lead-in to make it look like a brawl is about to go on) I think I'll be getting a lot of house work done while the wife watches this season.

(and yes...you all can come make fun of me when I'm still commenting on episodes with 3 guys left...) :bag:
I hear ya. To be clear, I watch the show with my wife because she enjoys it. I prefer the bachelor since at least there are lots of hot women instead of only one girl and a bunch of guys. But I admit I like to watch the train wreck if/when it occurs. I like Masterchef, Blacklist, and Grimm. She likes Bachelor/ette and Dancing with Stars. So we watch them all together.. give and take sort of thing.

I thought Eric was cool on the helicopter date when he said "this is the greatest thing ever".. when in reality he's been on plenty of helicopters and in exotic locations. That date was probably an off season for him. But he didn't come across as an arrogant tool. The drunk guy would have fallen out of the chopper.

 
Eric, the explorer that died after filming, had a great date and she seemed to like him a lot. I can't imagine how tough it would be for his family to watch last night. I'm guessing they didn't, but it would be tough not to watch knowing your son is on tv and is happy. Crazy.
No kidding. Seems like a pretty cool and interesting guy. I couldn't even watch if I was his family. That'd be too much.

FWIW, I'm just not getting into it this season. I think I'm overly sensitized to the amount of scripting. I mean, Andi's overreaction to the drunk guy was probably mostly script. I just feel like so much of the drama is staged, or overexaggerated, and it's starting to bore me. (i.e. drunk guy randomly shoves one guy, and they edit the lead-in to make it look like a brawl is about to go on) I think I'll be getting a lot of house work done while the wife watches this season.

(and yes...you all can come make fun of me when I'm still commenting on episodes with 3 guys left...) :bag:
I hear ya. To be clear, I watch the show with my wife because she enjoys it. I prefer the bachelor since at least there are lots of hot women instead of only one girl and a bunch of guys. But I admit I like to watch the train wreck if/when it occurs. I like Masterchef, Blacklist, and Grimm. She likes Bachelor/ette and Dancing with Stars. So we watch them all together.. give and take sort of thing.

I thought Eric was cool on the helicopter date when he said "this is the greatest thing ever".. when in reality he's been on plenty of helicopters and in exotic locations. That date was probably an off season for him. But he didn't come across as an arrogant tool. The drunk guy would have fallen out of the chopper.
Now that would've been must-see TV.

I hear you re. give and take...My wife and I are the same way. We jointly watch Bachelor/ette, So You Think You Can Dance, and Total Divas (WWE reality TV) for her, and she'll watch my Deadliest Catch, Mythbusters, and Naked and Afraid. We have a ton of shows we both like, but I refuse to watch anything Kardashian, Real Housewives of X, or any of the fashion shows, and she likewise refuses to watch any shows about monsters (Finding Bigfoot, River Monsters, etc.), Tosh.0, or Law and Order SVU (gives her nightmares). I just picked up Game of Thrones, so I just watch those on the iPad if she really wants to watch something I don't.

 
Andi seems cute and likeable (I skipped the Juan Paaaaaaablo trainwreck). Not exactly pretty, but very cute, if that makes sense. I like her personality. For reference, loved Emily and couldn't stand Desiree.

Love the guy who was encouraged to apply by a friend dropping f-bombs and "it is what it is" on the way out. Classy!
I find Andi more attractive than Emily or Desiree. And she seems to have a better personality than both of them combined.
Really?

I think Emily is a smoke show, Dez has a hot girl next door thing going on... and Andi, I dunno. Something about her looks off. She's like a weak 7 imo.

ETA: Don't get me wrong, Andi can eat crackers in my bed if she wants and I wouldn't kick her out. But Dez could ambush me with a Dutch Oven and Emily could wet the bed and I'd tolerate that, but not from Andi.

 
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Andi has been better than expected.

I hated her last season, but now she is doing a little something.

 
these guys are such chodes, all of them. getting on that guy's case because a waitress handed him her number? go wash the sand out of your ######s guys.

 
I don't understand how they could get that many guys on this show who can't sing at all.
Look at the one horrible opera guy. Can you imagine if they had a season where ALL the guys were like that? If that's the trade-off for being able to sing, I'll pass.

I was so happy when his annoying ### left. All I could think of as he was sitting there crying was "Opera Man...Bye Bye!!!!!"

 
I don't understand how they could get that many guys on this show who can't sing at all.
Look at the one horrible opera guy. Can you imagine if they had a season where ALL the guys were like that? If that's the trade-off for being able to sing, I'll pass.

I was so happy when his annoying ### left. All I could think of as he was sitting there crying was "Opera Man...Bye Bye!!!!!"
Even he was awful. I'm sure he's a fine opera singer for nowheresville, Michigan, but he would have been booted off of American Idol with that audition.

 
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I don't understand how they could get that many guys on this show who can't sing at all.
Look at the one horrible opera guy. Can you imagine if they had a season where ALL the guys were like that? If that's the trade-off for being able to sing, I'll pass.

I was so happy when his annoying ### left. All I could think of as he was sitting there crying was "Opera Man...Bye Bye!!!!!"
Even he was awful. I'm sure he's a fine opera singer for nowheresville, Michigan, but he would have been booted off of American Idol with that audition.
Agreed...I feel like even his orgasm sounds would have too much vibrato.

 
Andi seems cute and likeable (I skipped the Juan Paaaaaaablo trainwreck). Not exactly pretty, but very cute, if that makes sense. I like her personality. For reference, loved Emily and couldn't stand Desiree.

Love the guy who was encouraged to apply by a friend dropping f-bombs and "it is what it is" on the way out. Classy!
I find Andi more attractive than Emily or Desiree. And she seems to have a better personality than both of them combined.
Really?

I think Emily is a smoke show, Dez has a hot girl next door thing going on... and Andi, I dunno. Something about her looks off. She's like a weak 7 imo.

ETA: Don't get me wrong, Andi can eat crackers in my bed if she wants and I wouldn't kick her out. But Dez could ambush me with a Dutch Oven and Emily could wet the bed and I'd tolerate that, but not from Andi.
Different strokes, GB. I think Emily is very attractive but I thought her personality took away from her beauty, but that's just my opinion. Sometimes Andi has moments where she doesn't look as hot. I believe I mentioned that somewhere up in the thread too. But I like her better than those other girls. But like you said, I wouldn't kick any of them out for eating crackers.

 
these guys are such chodes, all of them. getting on that guy's case because a waitress handed him her number? go wash the sand out of your ######s guys.
Yeah.. they probably don't care that much that he got a number, but they are trying to win a competition and if it will get him booted, I can see them ganging up on him like that. In real life I doubt anyone would say anything to him.

 
Well, at least we now know why they chose to air Eric's episodes. He created some drama in an otherwise tame season. Seems a little odd that all the guys get along so well. "Hey do you mind if I interrupt here?" "Rick, what's up killa? Hey, no problem, she's absolutely all yours." **hugs it out and exits stage right**

 
Andi seems high drama. This whole, "you have no idea how exhausting this is!" (sob, sob, sob)

Yeah, life as the Bachelorette is pretty brutal.

 
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Well, at least we now know why they chose to air Eric's episodes. He created some drama in an otherwise tame season. Seems a little odd that all the guys get along so well. "Hey do you mind if I interrupt here?" "Rick, what's up killa? Hey, no problem, she's absolutely all yours." **hugs it out and exits stage right**
My wife said a few of them are clearly gay. I guess I'm not really a good judge because almost all of them seem gay to me. :shrug:

 
Well, at least we now know why they chose to air Eric's episodes. He created some drama in an otherwise tame season. Seems a little odd that all the guys get along so well. "Hey do you mind if I interrupt here?" "Rick, what's up killa? Hey, no problem, she's absolutely all yours." **hugs it out and exits stage right**
My wife said a few of them are clearly gay. I guess I'm not really a good judge because almost all of them seem gay to me. :shrug:
Yeah it appears that many of them are. It was a cool half court shot by the BB coach, though. But I wonder how many takes they took for him to make it.

 
Andi seems high drama. This whole, "you have no idea how exhausting this is!" (sob, sob, sob)

Yeah, life as the Bachelorette is pretty brutal.
:lol: Yeah, traveling to exotic locations and riding in helicopters and limos to dates must be very stressful. "This is so real to me... every day it is so real to me."

 
It was really uncool and a major red flag of Andi to go scream at the other guys because of that one guy's dooshiness.

Not only that, but that guy was most likely completely right. It's been said many times that the show is much more scripted than it seems. He was probably spot on with the whole "I want to get to know you not a TV actress" thing. He was just kind of dumb to bring it up though if he had any interest of sticking around.

 
It was really uncool and a major red flag of Andi to go scream at the other guys because of that one guy's dooshiness.

Not only that, but that guy was most likely completely right. It's been said many times that the show is much more scripted than it seems. He was probably spot on with the whole "I want to get to know you not a TV actress" thing. He was just kind of dumb to bring it up though if he had any interest of sticking around.
Yeah if I was ever stupid enough to be on this show, by this point I'd just be getting drunk and jumping in the pool with my clothes on. She's nothing but drama.

 
Well, at least we now know why they chose to air Eric's episodes. He created some drama in an otherwise tame season. Seems a little odd that all the guys get along so well. "Hey do you mind if I interrupt here?" "Rick, what's up killa? Hey, no problem, she's absolutely all yours." **hugs it out and exits stage right**
My wife said a few of them are clearly gay. I guess I'm not really a good judge because almost all of them seem gay to me. :shrug:
The drunk accountant that jumped in the pool with his clothes on was super gay.

 
All it took was some back to back episodes for you guys to sour on her then, huh?

Of the past handful of Bachelorettes, Dez is the only one I'd actually consider going on a second date with. Emily and Andi are both awful people imo with distracting boobies.

 
the whole basis of the bachelorette goes against the alpha male "don't put the ##### on a pedestal" mentality. The show is built around a couple dozen guys doing just that.

 
Well, at least we now know why they chose to air Eric's episodes. He created some drama in an otherwise tame season. Seems a little odd that all the guys get along so well. "Hey do you mind if I interrupt here?" "Rick, what's up killa? Hey, no problem, she's absolutely all yours." **hugs it out and exits stage right**
My wife said a few of them are clearly gay. I guess I'm not really a good judge because almost all of them seem gay to me. :shrug:
The drunk accountant that jumped in the pool with his clothes on was super gay.
And the guy who stripped to his boxers to jump in with him.

 
the whole basis of the bachelorette goes against the alpha male "don't put the ##### on a pedestal" mentality. The show is built around a couple dozen guys doing just that.
I think you could be a contestant without doing that. If anything, it would probably make you stand out from the crowd of dudes drooling on her.

 
the whole basis of the bachelorette goes against the alpha male "don't put the ##### on a pedestal" mentality. The show is built around a couple dozen guys doing just that.
Love it when they all say with a straight face things like "Oh man, she's like completely perfect you guys! The perfect woman! She has literally zero flaws!" and they all nod in agreement.

Really there are at least 20 characteristics of your basic Bachelorette male contestant that bear no resemblance to any dude I would be friends with, or in some cases have even witnessed in real life. Crying after being dumped by a woman you've known for a couple weeks with whom you've never even had a serious date?? Where do they find these guys?

 
the whole basis of the bachelorette goes against the alpha male "don't put the ##### on a pedestal" mentality. The show is built around a couple dozen guys doing just that.
I think you could be a contestant without doing that. If anything, it would probably make you stand out from the crowd of dudes drooling on her.
No way. I think the guys who don't put her on a pedestal are the ones who don't even make it past the first night. The whole basis of not putting the ##### on a pedestal is that there are tons of other women out there which is not the case on the show.

 
Cynical side> Eric was a plant to bring out the (easily brought out) drama queen side of Andi. He was in the midst of making and promoting a documentary so this was free publicity for him. Andi just needed a teeny push and the producers got their "drama". She's quite the nitz.

 

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