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The Great 2020 All Time Television Draft: The Simpsons is judged the greatest show of all time (4 Viewers)
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Dr. Octopus
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Is this streaming anywhere? Unfortunately this is one that I haven't watched - I have watched the original but from what I understand this one is far superior.
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jwb
Footballguy
7.10 - Andy Sipowicz - Leading Man Drama, 1990-2020
One of the greatest police characters of all time. I was kind of wondering "is he a lead?", but Dennis Franz won 4 emmys for Outstanding Lead Actor in a Drama Series, so I guess that answers that. At worst, he's co-lead, but let's be honest, after season one, it was his show.
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One of the greatest police characters of all time. I was kind of wondering "is he a lead?", but Dennis Franz won 4 emmys for Outstanding Lead Actor in a Drama Series, so I guess that answers that. At worst, he's co-lead, but let's be honest, after season one, it was his show.
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Pitchfork
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I'm not the right one to ask, beyond Netflix and Amazon Prime our streaming services are different up here, it was on CraveTV, which obviously doesn't exist in the US.
Dr. Octopus
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Mr. Mojo
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I watched it a couple times and just couldn't get into it. The language alone seemed ridiculous.
wikkidpissah
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fitting having Sipowicz & Deadwood go almost back2back as they came from the same mind
krista4
Footballguy
tuffnutt killing it up in here. I remember thinking he was killing the movie draft, too. You, sir, have excellent taste (in that it seems to be similar to mine
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Footballguy
Thank you Krista!tuffnutt killing it up in here. I remember thinking he was killing the movie draft, too. You, sir, have excellent taste (in that it seems to be similar to mine
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7.12 Series Finale - Felina (Breaking Bad)
First selection I'm making where my personal preference matches what I think is objective value. It's the second highest rated BB episode ever (next to the absolutely spectacular Ozymandias episode). So, the second best episode of one of the best shows ever taken sixth in the category with a real chance to be the top choice?? Value!
Some cools tidbits from the episode from some guy on the internet:
This episode has the outstanding score of 9.9/10 on IMDb. This is the second highest rated episode of the series, just after "Ozymandias" with 10/10.
The title "Felina" is a reference to the 1959 song "El Paso" by Western music artist Marty Robbins. The song concerns an unnamed cowboy who falls in love with a woman named Faleena, gets shot by his enemies, and dies in her arms. The song plays in Walt's stolen car in New Hampshire, and is later hummed by Walt as he assembles the M60.
"Felina" is an anagram for "finale", and is also the feminine version of the word "feline" in Italian, Portuguese and Spanish.
That "Felina" is a portmanteau of "Fe", "Li" and "Na", the symbols for iron, lithium and sodium, or shorthand for "blood, meth and tears" is a common misconception. Methamphetamines do not contain lithium.
This is the second longest episode of the series (55 minutes), only surpassed by the "Pilot" (58 minutes).
This is the fourth episode to be written and directed by Vince Gilligan, after "Pilot", "Full Measure" and "Face Off".
Walt's reflection on the lab equipment is distorted in such a way that he appears to have a goatee and a shaved head.
Carol compares Walt's appearance to the Unabomber, real name Ted Kaczynski, a terrorist who evaded capture for 17 years despite a federal investigation but who was eventually caught after his sister-in-law and his brother became suspicious of him; this parallels with Hank and Marie's role in catching Heisenberg. Similar to Heisenberg, Kaczynski was also a highly-educated and intelligent mathematician who spent a significant portion of his life living in a remote cabin. Carol's comparison also contrasts with Saul Goodman's comparison of Walt's appearance to that of D. B. Cooper in "Better Call Saul"; D. B. Cooper, who stole $200,000 from airline passengers in 1971, was never caught.
The device Walt used to control the M60 is a Chinese made UN-4001 Central Car Lock System, a remote-controlled central car lock. The letters UN on the box is covered by a bar code sticker, but largely uncensored. It is the only Chinese product in the show to be shown as Chinese. Statistically, it is the most commonly used remote car lock in China.
The outfit Walt wears when he arrives at the compound is identical to what he wore in "Pilot" (pastel jacket, green button-up shirt, white undershirt, beige slacks). He begins and ends the series in the same clothes.
While assembling the M60, Walt hums "El Paso" to himself, after hearing it playing in his car at the beginning of the episode. This could be a callback to when he hummed "Horse With No Name" to himself after hearing it playing in his car in "Caballo Sin Nombre".
Todd Alquist, Walter White and Lydia Rodarte-Quayle are, in sequence, the fourth, fifth and sixth main characters to die.
Jack's death mirrors Hank's; as Hank was shot by Jack as Walt offered Jack all his money to spare him, Jack is shot by Walt attempting to offer him his money back to spare him. They were also both shot in the head mid sentence. Both were also killed with the same gun.
Despite it being a recurring element throughout the show, Lydia is the only person to have been successfully killed with ricin.
Lydia's fate is confirmed in "El Camino" where Jesse hears a news report about an unnamed Houston woman poisoned by Walt who is hospitalized and not expected to survive.
Several takes were shot of Walt's blood stained hand sliding down the stainless steel tank. Vince Gilligan selected the one where a "W" (for Walter White) is created by the smear.
The lyrics "A deep burning pain in my side" in the song "El Paso" parallels what happens to Walt towards the end of this episode.
His death also reflects "El Paso" by how the cowboy died in the arms of his lover, Walter died amidst the empire he loved.
The lyrics "The special love I had for you, my baby blue" in the song "Baby Blue" by Badfinger, reflects Walt's actual love and respect for his own exclusive signature product Blue Sky.
Vince Gilligan explained that The Searchers heavily influenced the final standoff between Walt and Jesse. Gilligan believes that Walt was intending to kill Jesse, but when he saw the state his former partner was in, Walt couldn’t do it.
There was one scene cut from the finale script for budget and time reasons. It took place at the gas station after Walt makes the call in which he pretends he's the Times reporter. In it, a former student of Walt recognizes him. Walt pays him off and threatens him to make sure he doesn't rat him out. But before leaving the former student, he asks, "What kind of teacher was I?" The former student replies, "You were good." and then says he remembered the time Walt sprayed different chemicals at a flame and it made different colors.
Walt's last word is 'Lydia'.
Some fans still joke about whether or not Huell is still sitting in the safe house, for Hank never told him it was safe for him to leave. Funny or Die even made a video parodying this. However, Gilligan revealed that Huell was let out once Agent Van Oster found out that Hank and Gomez had died, and that "right now, he’s doing what Huell does best, whatever that is. He’s out and about as a free man."
The license plate of the Cadillac reads "JG8-516", whereas "516" is a hint for this episode, which is the sixteenth episode of the fifth season.
The entire series began and ended with sirens heading towards Walter.
Judging by the way Walt talks to Skyler about his confrontation with the neo-Nazis and the fact that Walt wanted Jesse to shoot him, it can be concluded that Walt had planned to get himself killed with the M60 along with Jack's gang before finding out Jesse's condition. Although unknown, it can be assumed. Coincidentally, in the first episode of the series, Walter tries to shoot himself (unsuccessfully).
As the camera pans out from Walt's body, the lighting fixture forms a crosshair and settles over his left lung. This throws back to his initial CT Scan, and future references where Walt stated he had a tumor in his left lung.
Co-executive producer Melissa Bernstein can be seen in the bus when Walt Jr. comes home from school. It is a voluntary wink to the "Pilot", in which for lack of budget, she had played the sole occupant of the school bus seen during the scene where Walter accompanies Hank on a drug bust.
This episode was watched by 10.28 million people on its premiere night, up from the previous high, "Granite State", which had 6.58 million. This makes "Felina" the most watched episode in the series' history.[1]
The finale also set new records on Twitter, with 1.24 million tweets from 601,370 unique users during the live broadcast of both the EST and PST telecasts. The Breaking Bad finale hit a peak of 22,373 "tweets"-per-minute as the final episode began on the East Coast. Popular Breaking Bad-related Twitter tags included: "#BreakingBad", "#BreakingBadFinale", and "#GoodbyeBreakingBad"; all of which were trending on Twitter that night.
Bob Odenkirk (Saul Goodman) does not appear in this episode.
RJ Mitte (Walter White Jr.) does not have any speaking lines in this episode.
Vince Gilligan had Walt leave his watch at the gas station for continuity reasons, as he wasn't wearing it during the flashforwards in earlier episodes.[2] ("Live Free or Die") ("Blood Money")
Leaving the Tag Heuer watch may also be symbolic that "time has run out" for Walt, or it may be symbolic of Walt leaving behind his prideful, selfish, "Heisenberg" self, who was overly focused on greed and power, symbolized by the watch. Many of Heisenberg's worst actions were taken after he received the watch as a gift.
Gilligan almost didn't get to use Baby Blue, but the music supervisor said it was the best choice in the end.
The song Baby Blue by Badfinger saw a 9,000% increase in streams, and more than 5,000 iTunes sales the night Felina aired, putting it in the top 20 iTunes songs 40 years after it was initially released.
In the final scene between Skyler and Walt:
Anna Gunn wore oversized clothing (like Cranston often does) to make her look like a "shrunken person" and a "shadow of her former self."
The shot of Skyler reflected in the microwave was completely accidental. Gilligan admits not knowing he got it until the editor complimented it.
The camera operator cried shooting the final Skyler and Walt scene, and had to take his eye off the eyepiece.
Walt's machine gun robot was recreated on an episode of Mythbusters.
Walter's death, despite general acceptance from fans, is widely disputed. Logically, Walter could survive and Cranston has since teased this theory by stating "You didn't see a body bag" in an interview.
Walt's fate is confirmed in "El Camino" where Jesse hears on a news report how the police found Walter White's dead body in the aftermath of the gang massacre. It is the same news report that confirms Lydia's fate.
First selection I'm making where my personal preference matches what I think is objective value. It's the second highest rated BB episode ever (next to the absolutely spectacular Ozymandias episode). So, the second best episode of one of the best shows ever taken sixth in the category with a real chance to be the top choice?? Value!
Some cools tidbits from the episode from some guy on the internet:
This episode has the outstanding score of 9.9/10 on IMDb. This is the second highest rated episode of the series, just after "Ozymandias" with 10/10.
The title "Felina" is a reference to the 1959 song "El Paso" by Western music artist Marty Robbins. The song concerns an unnamed cowboy who falls in love with a woman named Faleena, gets shot by his enemies, and dies in her arms. The song plays in Walt's stolen car in New Hampshire, and is later hummed by Walt as he assembles the M60.
"Felina" is an anagram for "finale", and is also the feminine version of the word "feline" in Italian, Portuguese and Spanish.
That "Felina" is a portmanteau of "Fe", "Li" and "Na", the symbols for iron, lithium and sodium, or shorthand for "blood, meth and tears" is a common misconception. Methamphetamines do not contain lithium.
This is the second longest episode of the series (55 minutes), only surpassed by the "Pilot" (58 minutes).
This is the fourth episode to be written and directed by Vince Gilligan, after "Pilot", "Full Measure" and "Face Off".
Walt's reflection on the lab equipment is distorted in such a way that he appears to have a goatee and a shaved head.
Carol compares Walt's appearance to the Unabomber, real name Ted Kaczynski, a terrorist who evaded capture for 17 years despite a federal investigation but who was eventually caught after his sister-in-law and his brother became suspicious of him; this parallels with Hank and Marie's role in catching Heisenberg. Similar to Heisenberg, Kaczynski was also a highly-educated and intelligent mathematician who spent a significant portion of his life living in a remote cabin. Carol's comparison also contrasts with Saul Goodman's comparison of Walt's appearance to that of D. B. Cooper in "Better Call Saul"; D. B. Cooper, who stole $200,000 from airline passengers in 1971, was never caught.
The device Walt used to control the M60 is a Chinese made UN-4001 Central Car Lock System, a remote-controlled central car lock. The letters UN on the box is covered by a bar code sticker, but largely uncensored. It is the only Chinese product in the show to be shown as Chinese. Statistically, it is the most commonly used remote car lock in China.
The outfit Walt wears when he arrives at the compound is identical to what he wore in "Pilot" (pastel jacket, green button-up shirt, white undershirt, beige slacks). He begins and ends the series in the same clothes.
While assembling the M60, Walt hums "El Paso" to himself, after hearing it playing in his car at the beginning of the episode. This could be a callback to when he hummed "Horse With No Name" to himself after hearing it playing in his car in "Caballo Sin Nombre".
Todd Alquist, Walter White and Lydia Rodarte-Quayle are, in sequence, the fourth, fifth and sixth main characters to die.
Jack's death mirrors Hank's; as Hank was shot by Jack as Walt offered Jack all his money to spare him, Jack is shot by Walt attempting to offer him his money back to spare him. They were also both shot in the head mid sentence. Both were also killed with the same gun.
Despite it being a recurring element throughout the show, Lydia is the only person to have been successfully killed with ricin.
Lydia's fate is confirmed in "El Camino" where Jesse hears a news report about an unnamed Houston woman poisoned by Walt who is hospitalized and not expected to survive.
Several takes were shot of Walt's blood stained hand sliding down the stainless steel tank. Vince Gilligan selected the one where a "W" (for Walter White) is created by the smear.
The lyrics "A deep burning pain in my side" in the song "El Paso" parallels what happens to Walt towards the end of this episode.
His death also reflects "El Paso" by how the cowboy died in the arms of his lover, Walter died amidst the empire he loved.
The lyrics "The special love I had for you, my baby blue" in the song "Baby Blue" by Badfinger, reflects Walt's actual love and respect for his own exclusive signature product Blue Sky.
Vince Gilligan explained that The Searchers heavily influenced the final standoff between Walt and Jesse. Gilligan believes that Walt was intending to kill Jesse, but when he saw the state his former partner was in, Walt couldn’t do it.
There was one scene cut from the finale script for budget and time reasons. It took place at the gas station after Walt makes the call in which he pretends he's the Times reporter. In it, a former student of Walt recognizes him. Walt pays him off and threatens him to make sure he doesn't rat him out. But before leaving the former student, he asks, "What kind of teacher was I?" The former student replies, "You were good." and then says he remembered the time Walt sprayed different chemicals at a flame and it made different colors.
Walt's last word is 'Lydia'.
Some fans still joke about whether or not Huell is still sitting in the safe house, for Hank never told him it was safe for him to leave. Funny or Die even made a video parodying this. However, Gilligan revealed that Huell was let out once Agent Van Oster found out that Hank and Gomez had died, and that "right now, he’s doing what Huell does best, whatever that is. He’s out and about as a free man."
The license plate of the Cadillac reads "JG8-516", whereas "516" is a hint for this episode, which is the sixteenth episode of the fifth season.
The entire series began and ended with sirens heading towards Walter.
Judging by the way Walt talks to Skyler about his confrontation with the neo-Nazis and the fact that Walt wanted Jesse to shoot him, it can be concluded that Walt had planned to get himself killed with the M60 along with Jack's gang before finding out Jesse's condition. Although unknown, it can be assumed. Coincidentally, in the first episode of the series, Walter tries to shoot himself (unsuccessfully).
As the camera pans out from Walt's body, the lighting fixture forms a crosshair and settles over his left lung. This throws back to his initial CT Scan, and future references where Walt stated he had a tumor in his left lung.
Co-executive producer Melissa Bernstein can be seen in the bus when Walt Jr. comes home from school. It is a voluntary wink to the "Pilot", in which for lack of budget, she had played the sole occupant of the school bus seen during the scene where Walter accompanies Hank on a drug bust.
This episode was watched by 10.28 million people on its premiere night, up from the previous high, "Granite State", which had 6.58 million. This makes "Felina" the most watched episode in the series' history.[1]
The finale also set new records on Twitter, with 1.24 million tweets from 601,370 unique users during the live broadcast of both the EST and PST telecasts. The Breaking Bad finale hit a peak of 22,373 "tweets"-per-minute as the final episode began on the East Coast. Popular Breaking Bad-related Twitter tags included: "#BreakingBad", "#BreakingBadFinale", and "#GoodbyeBreakingBad"; all of which were trending on Twitter that night.
Bob Odenkirk (Saul Goodman) does not appear in this episode.
RJ Mitte (Walter White Jr.) does not have any speaking lines in this episode.
Vince Gilligan had Walt leave his watch at the gas station for continuity reasons, as he wasn't wearing it during the flashforwards in earlier episodes.[2] ("Live Free or Die") ("Blood Money")
Leaving the Tag Heuer watch may also be symbolic that "time has run out" for Walt, or it may be symbolic of Walt leaving behind his prideful, selfish, "Heisenberg" self, who was overly focused on greed and power, symbolized by the watch. Many of Heisenberg's worst actions were taken after he received the watch as a gift.
Gilligan almost didn't get to use Baby Blue, but the music supervisor said it was the best choice in the end.
The song Baby Blue by Badfinger saw a 9,000% increase in streams, and more than 5,000 iTunes sales the night Felina aired, putting it in the top 20 iTunes songs 40 years after it was initially released.
In the final scene between Skyler and Walt:
Anna Gunn wore oversized clothing (like Cranston often does) to make her look like a "shrunken person" and a "shadow of her former self."
The shot of Skyler reflected in the microwave was completely accidental. Gilligan admits not knowing he got it until the editor complimented it.
The camera operator cried shooting the final Skyler and Walt scene, and had to take his eye off the eyepiece.
Walt's machine gun robot was recreated on an episode of Mythbusters.
Walter's death, despite general acceptance from fans, is widely disputed. Logically, Walter could survive and Cranston has since teased this theory by stating "You didn't see a body bag" in an interview.
Walt's fate is confirmed in "El Camino" where Jesse hears on a news report how the police found Walter White's dead body in the aftermath of the gang massacre. It is the same news report that confirms Lydia's fate.
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AAABatteries
Footballguy
I’m not reading all that.
Felina - it’s badass, go watch it.
Felina - it’s badass, go watch it.
AAABatteries
Footballguy
I will say that the use of Baby Blue by Badfinger jumped to the head of the list for song usage in a TV show. Just perfect.
Mrs. Rannous
Footballguy
Dr. Octopus
Footballguy
Mrs. Rannous
Footballguy
Mrs. Rannous
Footballguy
Zow
Footballguy
KarmaPolice
Footballguy
I THINK I have a good start, but am fully aware that a couple might be iffy depending on judges:
Breaking Bad
Band of Brothers
Tyrion
Six Feet Under finale
Don Draper
The Real World
I think at least 4 should be in the running for a top spot.
Breaking Bad
Band of Brothers
Tyrion
Six Feet Under finale
Don Draper
The Real World
I think at least 4 should be in the running for a top spot.
KarmaPolice
Footballguy
If you guys get to me, I can be skipped. busy at work, and after that I have to run around town for school and such.
Yo Mama
Footballguy
Mrs. Rannous
Footballguy
Mrs. Rannous
Footballguy
mphtrilogy
Footballguy
Don Quixote
Footballguy
As I was looking over categories, I thought "show runner" or some equivalent category would have been a good one -- looking at the collective bodies of work of Milch, Gilligan, Sorkin, Schur, etc.
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mphtrilogy
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Hov34
Eephus's Great Great Great Love Child
Yeah this was the one I had ranked second and believed to be an actual western
If Woz had kept crying I was going to move Firefly to sci/fi and draft this next for Western. Love that show.
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Hov34
Eephus's Great Great Great Love Child
Just bought this on Vudu for $20 I have the blu-rays but wanted it digital. Great series that sort of went bat#### crazy towards the end. But still a great ride.
Dr. Octopus
Footballguy
He was pretty old by the time that show ended - and was typecast as a cop his entire career.
Dr. Octopus
Footballguy
mphtrilogy
Footballguy
mphtrilogy
Footballguy
Yo Mama
Footballguy
Nick Vermeil
Footballguy
I've said this before on the board, but if you have never watched Battlestar, I highly recommend listening to the commentary podcasts for each episode with creator Ronald Moore. He gets drunk and smokes while talking about the writing and shooting process. Great stuff.
Doug B
Footballguy
"When I was a kid my father used to say 'Our greatest hopes and our worst fears are seldom realized'" Our worst fears have been realized tonight. They have now said there were 11 hostages; two were killed in their rooms this morn- ... yesterday morning, nine were killed at the airport tonight. They're all gone."
9/6/1972, Munich, West Germany. ABC's Summer Olympics host had been on the air for 14 straight hours when he relayed the crushing news to the world.
7.14: Jim McKay, Sports Personality
In happier times, McKay's voice lives on forever wherever the strains of Charles Fox's brass intro are sounded ...
"Spanning the globe to bring you the constant variety of sport... the thrill of victory... and the agony of defeat... the human drama of athletic competition... This is ABC's Wide World of Sports"
9/6/1972, Munich, West Germany. ABC's Summer Olympics host had been on the air for 14 straight hours when he relayed the crushing news to the world.
7.14: Jim McKay, Sports Personality
In happier times, McKay's voice lives on forever wherever the strains of Charles Fox's brass intro are sounded ...
"Spanning the globe to bring you the constant variety of sport... the thrill of victory... and the agony of defeat... the human drama of athletic competition... This is ABC's Wide World of Sports"
Doug B
Footballguy
Mrs. Rannous
Footballguy
KarmaPolice
Footballguy
Yo Mama
Footballguy
No offense to any of the previous sports guys drafted, but there is only one sports personality that has a chance to dethrone Cosell and I have them 1a and 1b in this category. Yo Mama selects:
7.16 - John Madden, Sports Personality
He did it all at a hall of fame level - player, coach, and broadcaster. He elevated football coverage for decades in an accessible way, bringing complex schemes to a colorful level that connected to the average guy or gal on their couch at home. No matter how good or bad the game, his broadcast games were appointment viewing. From bringing people into the trenches with a well-timed Bam, Pow, or Thwap, to masterful use of the telestrater to highlight the sweat on an offensive lineman’s behind or the steam coming off the head of a player on a frigid day, Madden was often copied but never equaled. He brought us the Madden bus, the all-Madden team, The Madden Curse, and the eight legged turkey.
Some highlights:
- 16 time Emmy winner
- Appeared in movies, commercials (no spotlighting), and music videos by U2 and Paul Simon
- Hosted SNL and was a character on the Simpsons
- Was the face and voice of the Madden NFL video game juggernaught, which spawned leagues and tournaments now featured regularly on TV
- Broadcast games on all 4 major networks
Madden truly brought personality to sports and is one of the (if not THE) greatest.
7.16 - John Madden, Sports Personality
He did it all at a hall of fame level - player, coach, and broadcaster. He elevated football coverage for decades in an accessible way, bringing complex schemes to a colorful level that connected to the average guy or gal on their couch at home. No matter how good or bad the game, his broadcast games were appointment viewing. From bringing people into the trenches with a well-timed Bam, Pow, or Thwap, to masterful use of the telestrater to highlight the sweat on an offensive lineman’s behind or the steam coming off the head of a player on a frigid day, Madden was often copied but never equaled. He brought us the Madden bus, the all-Madden team, The Madden Curse, and the eight legged turkey.
Some highlights:
- 16 time Emmy winner
- Appeared in movies, commercials (no spotlighting), and music videos by U2 and Paul Simon
- Hosted SNL and was a character on the Simpsons
- Was the face and voice of the Madden NFL video game juggernaught, which spawned leagues and tournaments now featured regularly on TV
- Broadcast games on all 4 major networks
Madden truly brought personality to sports and is one of the (if not THE) greatest.
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