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The Great 2020 All Time Television Draft: The Simpsons is judged the greatest show of all time (1 Viewer)

Zow said:
He was. Was the Fonz the lead character of Happy Days?

... I've never actually seen an episode. :bag:  
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He wasn't early on but he took over because he was by far the most popular character. If you asked 100 people to name the main character on Happy Days, I think most would say "The Fonz", but Richie Cunningham was supposed to be the main character for sure.

 
A trickier question is supporting characters in one series that become leads in spinoff series - and there are a number of those.

I’d assume if you took that character in a supporting role you’d mainly get “credit” for the Initial series prior to when they became leads in their own series. At least that’s how I would judge them. 

 
Yo Mama said:
A trickier question is supporting characters in one series that become leads in spinoff series - and there are a number of those.

I’d assume if you took that character in a supporting role you’d mainly get “credit” for the Initial series prior to when they became leads in their own series. At least that’s how I would judge them. 
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Assuming I’m not ruining anyone’s pick here, but since we’re on happy days - if I took Chachi as a supporting character, would I be able to lay claim to his later stellar work as lead in the groundbreaking spinoff Joanie Loves Chachi?

 
Yo Mama said:
A trickier question is supporting characters in one series that become leads in spinoff series - and there are a number of those.

I’d assume if you took that character in a supporting role you’d mainly get “credit” for the Initial series prior to when they became leads in their own series. At least that’s how I would judge them. 
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I'd be good with this. I think it would then stand to reason that his subsequent vaulting to main character demonstrates how great of a supporting character he was. 

 
Yo Mama said:
Assuming I’m not ruining anyone’s pick here, but since we’re on happy days - if I took Chachi as a supporting character, would I be able to lay claim to his later stellar work as lead in the groundbreaking spinoff Joanie Loves Chachi?
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I'd say no to the work but the fact that his character spurred a spin-off demonstrates how good of a supporting character he may have been. 

 
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Yo Mama said:
Assuming I’m not ruining anyone’s pick here, but since we’re on happy days - if I took Chachi as a supporting character, would I be able to lay claim to his later stellar work as lead in the groundbreaking spinoff Joanie Loves Chachi?
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I'm not cool with that.  There are a couple of major (spotlighting) problems with that idea.

 
Zow said:
Let me get a consensus here please. If the majority thinks a character like the Fonz should be a lead I'm totally cool with it, will switch him there, and will be happy to use my choice as the example/baseline going forward. 

I, frankly, don't see a huge difference here between the Fonz and Barney Fife and Jesse Pinkman but am a fan of precedence. 
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You lawyers just stick with your precedence don't you...... :D

 
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Mrs. Rannous said:
I'm not cool with that.  There are a couple of major (spotlighting) problems with that idea.
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Yeah there are some bigger examples that will for sure be drafted. Wondering if it would be a loophole to take a character that got huge notoriety as a lead character in a spinoff as a supporting actor because of their secondary original role. 

 
Yo Mama said:
Yeah there are some bigger examples that will for sure be drafted. Wondering if it would be a loophole to take a character that got huge notoriety as a lead character in a spinoff as a supporting actor because of their secondary original role. 
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That was my thought.

 
IMO you take the character, and you have the choice to switch categories later, and the judges just consider the category they are drafted for.  

 
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Zow said:
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I took Don Draper.   Let's say there was a Mad Men spin off where he was a kickass supporting character.   I don't get both shows, and the judges shouldn't really take into consideration his 2nd show, IMO, because I didn't take him for supporting male.  

ETA:  but in this scenario I should be able to switch him to the supporting character later in the draft and take another lead character.   Again, not getting judged for both shows though.  

 
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Zow said:
I think it would then stand to reason that his subsequent vaulting to main character demonstrates how great of a supporting character he was. 
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Agree a lot with this.

Fonz is the quintessential supporting character that transcended the role. Even when he got popular and was plastered all over lunch boxes and T-shirts, it was a while after that before Fonz was written as a narrative lead. Fonz DID become a lead character, yes, but it was later on than people think.

 
Pitchfork said:
I fear this pick is another that's not easily classifiable but I'll put him where I think he belongs and am okay moving him, I think it's an A+ pick no matter what. 

8.08 - Spock - Supporting Male (1950-1970)
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I don't want to pimp someone else's pick, but I had this one in mind as well. One of the most remembered characters of that era. Congratulations.

 
Pitchfork said:
I fear this pick is another that's not easily classifiable but I'll put him where I think he belongs and am okay moving him, I think it's an A+ pick no matter what. 

8.08 - Spock - Supporting Male (1950-1970)
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Nice, he was in my top tier with Barney Fife for this category (with Fife higher of course)

 
8.09 The Shield- Action

One of the grittiest, most hard-hitting series ever written. The Shield made Emmy history by earning the most nominations ever for a basic cable drama series. I remember this exceptional cop thriller as a must watch week to week and is one of my favorite shows of all time. I would highly recommend if you missed it the first time around.

 
KarmaPolice said:
I took Don Draper.   Let's say there was a Mad Men spin off where he was a kickass supporting character.   I don't get both shows, and the judges shouldn't really take into consideration his 2nd show, IMO, because I didn't take him for supporting male.  

ETA:  but in this scenario I should be able to switch him to the supporting character later in the draft and take another lead character.   Again, not getting judged for both shows though.  
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Gotcha. Makes sense. 

 
jwb said:
8.07 - Thomas Sullivan Magnum III - TV Detective

Emmy win? Check. Golden Globe win? Check. Bunch of nominations? Yep. Tons of fun? You bet! Best 80's moustache? No contest. 
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Good choice here. He's definitely at least third in the category I think. I had Columbo then Sherlock and Magnum tied. 

 
Im kind of in a spot where Im not sure what caregory I want to take. Every time I think of something I say there are other great picks in that category left. 

 
Zow said:
1971 - 1990 greatest supporting male character - Arthur Herbert Fonzarelli

He was such a great supporting/secondary character that by season three he was added to main cast and received second billing. 
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👍

 
jwb said:
8.07 - Thomas Sullivan Magnum III - TV Detective

Emmy win? Check. Golden Globe win? Check. Bunch of nominations? Yep. Tons of fun? You bet! Best 80's moustache? No contest. 
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G'damnit.  Thought this would last a bit more...  Really wanted Magnum!!!

 
Zow said:
Let's do this - for now I'll slot him as supporting but reserve the right to move him to lead for that same time period. 
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I had him on my list as supporting. fwiw.

 
Pitchfork said:
I fear this pick is another that's not easily classifiable but I'll put him where I think he belongs and am okay moving him, I think it's an A+ pick no matter what. 

8.08 - Spock - Supporting Male (1950-1970)
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I would have put him as a lead in the show.  He's listed as starring in the opening credits.  (Kelly was added there later.)

 
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