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The Great 2020 All Time Television Draft: The Simpsons is judged the greatest show of all time (4 Viewers)

Pick 15.02 - The Last Dance (Category - Documentary)

Instant classic.  It may be recent but was extremely well done with an insight into that Bulls team and Jordan that you typically don't get.

@timschochet you are up.

 
KarmaPolice said:
I'm trying to think of a way to argue that this isn't a doc. ;)
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jwb said:
It's not a miniseries?
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hmmm honest question for both of you (and anyone else)

We took PBS/Ken Burns The Civil War as a documentary

But....could argue it really was a miniseries

I mean it was a nationwide phenomena that people got caught up watching all five parts over and over

Anyway, we were debating where to put it. Ending up taking Lonesome Dove for miniseries

Later moved that to western and took John Adams for miniseries

anyway - is the PBS classic a documentary? or miniseries?

one definition of documentary, offered by Wikipedia

A documentary film is a non-fictional motion-picture intended to "document reality, primarily for the purposes of instruction, education, or maintaining a historical record.

same source, defining miniseries:

A miniseries (or mini-series) is a television program that tells a story in a predetermined, limited number of episodes. The term "serial" is used in the United Kingdom and in other Commonwealth nations, though its meaning does not necessarily equate to "miniseries" in its usage.

 
BobbyLayne said:
KarmaPolice said:
I'm trying to think of a way to argue that this isn't a doc. ;)
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jwb said:
It's not a miniseries?
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hmmm honest question for both of you (and anyone else)

We took PBS/Ken Burns The Civil War as a documentary

But....could argue it really was a miniseries

I mean it was a nationwide phenomena that people got caught up watching all five parts over and over

Anyway, we were debating where to put it. Ending up taking Lonesome Dove for miniseries

Later moved that to western and took John Adams for miniseries

anyway - is the PBS classic a documentary? or miniseries?

one definition of documentary, offered by Wikipedia

A documentary film is a non-fictional motion-picture intended to "document reality, primarily for the purposes of instruction, education, or maintaining a historical record.

same source, defining miniseries:

A miniseries (or mini-series) is a television program that tells a story in a predetermined, limited number of episodes. The term "serial" is used in the United Kingdom and in other Commonwealth nations, though its meaning does not necessarily equate to "miniseries" in its usage.
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It's a tricky question, and yes, there's a lot of overlap. 

For me, miniseries = fiction or based on history. It tells a story with characters and actors. That's the difference.

btw, you should do well in those three categories with your picks.

 
Add me to the list of people who have never heard of Mrs Maisel and I have Amazon Prine. When someone said it won awards, I decided to look at a list of award winners even though I said i wouldn't. This show stuck out to me as good value winning best comedy FIVE years in a row (94, 95, 96, 97 & 98)

Tossed salad and scrambled eggs 

15.4 Frazier, comedy 1991-2020

 
BobbyLayne said:
hmmm honest question for both of you (and anyone else)

We took PBS/Ken Burns The Civil War as a documentary

But....could argue it really was a miniseries

I mean it was a nationwide phenomena that people got caught up watching all five parts over and over

Anyway, we were debating where to put it. Ending up taking Lonesome Dove for miniseries

Later moved that to western and took John Adams for miniseries

anyway - is the PBS classic a documentary? or miniseries?

one definition of documentary, offered by Wikipedia

A documentary film is a non-fictional motion-picture intended to "document reality, primarily for the purposes of instruction, education, or maintaining a historical record.

same source, defining miniseries:

A miniseries (or mini-series) is a television program that tells a story in a predetermined, limited number of episodes. The term "serial" is used in the United Kingdom and in other Commonwealth nations, though its meaning does not necessarily equate to "miniseries" in its usage.
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It's both and you should be free to put it into which every category you want. Just like My Cousin Vinny is a court room movie and a comedy or T2 is  an action movie and a sci-fi movie.

 
AcerFC said:
Add me to the list of people who have never heard of Mrs Maisel and I have Amazon Prine. When someone said it won awards, I decided to look at a list of award winners even though I said i wouldn't. This show stuck out to me as good value winning best comedy FIVE years in a row (94, 95, 96, 97 & 98)

Tossed salad and scrambled eggs 

15.4 Frazier, comedy 1991-2020
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Snipers. Snipers everywhere!

 
AcerFC said:
AAABatteries said:
I think we don’t start the clock until 10am EST for West Coast folks - not sure where higgins is - unless it’s Hawaii
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Higgins was skipped yesterday which means he is still a skip

Pick away
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I think we should suspend drafting to encourage folks to get to their precinct to vote today 

 
AcerFC said:
I went at 6. The line was so long I couldn't wait 

In my opinion, the draft will give people something to do while they wait on line. Win/Win
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I was planning on that

but had nightmares last night about a #badorangeman

couldn't sleep 

we'll pick by 10 11ish

 
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15.08- O.J.-Made in America- Documentary

Winner of 45 awards including the Academy Award for Best Documentary Feature at the 89th Academy Awards, this is perhaps the best sports documentary of all time. Lasting 8 hours it is also the longest documentary to ever win an Oscar. With a 100% on Rotten Tomatoes and 96 on Metacritics, this ESPN film has universal praise. If you are of a certain age and remember the trial this one hits home. I remember rushing home from class in college and turning on trial nearly every day. So in depth. so enthralling. I didn't want it to end.

@Pitchfork

 
anybody want to shoot me their cell number in a PM?

TripleLayne © needs a backup plan just in case I post something ban-worthy in the PSF today.

(did I mention I got a warning for liking a post? I did. OK.)

AAA is heading off to the wilderness soon and I'm trying really, really hard to not post something stupid, but....it ain't easy.

if anyone is in NYC today for business or tourism, feel free to come by my place to forcibly remove all my devices from the premises.

 
BobbyLayne said:
anybody want to shoot me their cell number in a PM?

TripleLayne © needs a backup plan just in case I post something ban-worthy in the PSF today.

(did I mention I got a warning for liking a post? I did. OK.)

AAA is heading off to the wilderness soon and I'm trying really, really hard to not post something stupid, but....it ain't easy.

if anyone is in NYC today for business or tourism, feel free to come by my place to forcibly remove all my devices from the premises.
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PM sent.  Nothing else, it will give me a reason not to go in there either.  

 
KarmaPolice said:
:wub:
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Literally found it on our list at 10:57 (3 minutes before we timed out) - I'm a little groggy today. Pretty pumped we have Joey Potter on team TripleLayne.

The other main female character on that show was played by an actress who did some major roles in film; don't know enough details about her tv career but don't want to spotlight. Anyway, she and her bf bought a house around the corner from me like 15-17 years ago. The previous owner was Little Nell from Rocky Horror (also Australian - the whole neighborhood is like an Aussie enclave.) Used to always see them around - skateboarding down the street, standing in the crowd protesting the proposed arena that became the Barclays Center, in the same restaurant as us having brunch. Sometime when Matilda was a baby/befoe she was a toddler, they split up and he moved to a loft in SoHo. Of course, a few months later he tragically ODed, right after completing what most consider his best role. I used to see the woman occasionally with her baby in the early mornings (I walked past their house everyday on my way to the subway), I'm sure she had just woke up or was on no sleep, def sans makeup, and I swear she was the most naturally beautiful female I have ever seen.

No point to this story except to say that both of them were super chill and just normal people who wanted to blend in with the neighborhood, which is my favorite kind of NYC celebrity. We absolutely leave those folks alone and let them live in relative anonymity. 
 
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15.10 - Candid Camera - Reality Show

Pretty wide open category with tons (and I mean TONS) of recent entries, but I think there's good value with this all-time classic reality show.

@Mrs. Rannous

 
tuffnutt said:
15.08- O.J.-Made in America- Documentary

Winner of 45 awards including the Academy Award for Best Documentary Feature at the 89th Academy Awards, this is perhaps the best sports documentary of all time. Lasting 8 hours it is also the longest documentary to ever win an Oscar. With a 100% on Rotten Tomatoes and 96 on Metacritics, this ESPN film has universal praise. If you are of a certain age and remember the trial this one hits home. I remember rushing home from class in college and turning on trial nearly every day. So in depth. so enthralling. I didn't want it to end.

@Pitchfork
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you may want to check out the judge's criteria here. She stated nothing intended for theatrical release, and this was first in theaters. 

 
tuffnutt said:
Ok so do I need to repick?
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Dunno. Here's what she said:

No documentaries intended for Cinematic release are allowed.  No news programmes, series, or compilations.  The Apollo 11 broadcasts = no.  A show on how the broadcasts were done = sure.  All of WIld Kingdom = nope.  One episode = if you really want to.  I kind of get off on Marlin drinking tea in the studio while Jim wrestles a 20 foot boa constrictor.  A doc with serveral episodes is cool.  It should be limited in nature.  It would be better if it had a narrative drive, but it's not mandatory.  Burns' Civil War is fine.  (Not rendering judgment here.)  You don't get all of Rick Steeve's Europe or Andrew Zimmern's Bizarre Foods.  

To go back to how all this started, one episode of 30 For 30 might do well.  I'm not watching 52 seasons of 60 Minutes.

I'm guessing the Academy Award doesn't help it - it kind of defines that it's a theatrical film, even though it was a 30 for 30 as well. 

 
jwb said:
Dunno. Here's what she said:

No documentaries intended for Cinematic release are allowed.  No news programmes, series, or compilations.  The Apollo 11 broadcasts = no.  A show on how the broadcasts were done = sure.  All of WIld Kingdom = nope.  One episode = if you really want to.  I kind of get off on Marlin drinking tea in the studio while Jim wrestles a 20 foot boa constrictor.  A doc with serveral episodes is cool.  It should be limited in nature.  It would be better if it had a narrative drive, but it's not mandatory.  Burns' Civil War is fine.  (Not rendering judgment here.)  You don't get all of Rick Steeve's Europe or Andrew Zimmern's Bizarre Foods.  

To go back to how all this started, one episode of 30 For 30 might do well.  I'm not watching 52 seasons of 60 Minutes.

I'm guessing the Academy Award doesn't help it - it kind of defines that it's a theatrical film, even though it was a 30 for 30 as well. 
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ok I didn't know it was released in theaters. I watched on ESPN.  I will pick again. my apologies

 
tuffnutt said:
ok I didn't know it was released in theaters. I watched on ESPN.  I will pick again. my apologies
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oh, no apology necessary. I just didn't want to see anyone take a possible 1 on a 15th round pick due to a technicality (not saying it would be a 1 either, just that she laid out the criteria that could disqualify this.)

You may want to ask her first. 

 
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