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The Great 2020 All Time Television Draft: The Simpsons is judged the greatest show of all time (4 Viewers)

rickroll said:
17.13 Tolstoy selects Rowan and Martin’s Laugh-In, Variety or Live Show
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If Donald Draper and Roger Sterling weren't in advertising, they would have been Rowan and Martin.

I tried watching it on Amazon Prime a couple months ago but couldn't get through season 1, despite having Barbara Feldon in body paint and not much else.

 
17.15: Phil Donahue, Talk Show Host

A trailblazer in the late 1960s and early 1970s. Donahue was the first nationally-syndicated talk show to address political issues to Everyman USA, not just celebrities. Donahue pioneered the audience-participation talk show format that dominated non-scripted morning television during the 1980s and 1990s.

@KarmaPolice (?)

 
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@KarmaPolice timed out, so I’ll pick. 
 

This is a weak category for me that’s fairly untapped, so I’ll take one of the classics. Yo Mama selects:

17.16 - Dr. Richard Kimble - 50-70 Leading Man Drama

The legendary David Janssen brought the main character from The Fugitive to life in a big way that captured the nation. Janssen was nominated for 3 emmys and 2 golden globes (won once) for this epic role. 
 

 
Going for another heavy hitter that should rank high in a fairly deep field. Yo Mama selects:

18.01 - L.A. Law - 71-90 Drama

This show crossed eras a bit, but fits nicely in this period because 5 of its 8 seasons (including its most awarded) were by 1990. 
 

A typical Bochco classic, with a powerful ensemble cast [redacted to keep from spotlighting]. This series won 15 emmys (4 for best drama series) during its run. 
 

 
KarmaPolice said:
I will be awhile, we can just keep the draft moving...
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I'll drop a quick pick, then.

18.03: Barbara Walters, News Personality

In 1974, Walters became the first female host of an American news program, The Today Show. She had been with Today since 1961 as a researcher, writer, weathercaster, and reporter.

Cribbing her Wikipedia article to save a little time -- reading through a selection of her personal interviews makes for a great account of an extraordinary career:

Walters is known for "personality journalism" and her "scoop" interviews.[28] In November 1977, she achieved a joint interview with Egypt's president, Anwar Al Sadat, and Israel's Prime Minister, Menachem Begin. According to The New York Times, when she went mano a mano with Walter Cronkite to interview both world leaders, at the end of Cronkite's interview, he is clearly heard saying: "Did Barbara get anything I didn't get?"[40] Her interviews with world leaders from all walks of life are a chronicle of the latter part of the 20th century.[28] They include the Shah of Iran, Mohammad Reza Pahlavi, and his wife, the Empress Farah Pahlavi; Russia's Boris Yeltsin and Vladimir Putin; China's Jiang Zemin; the UK's Margaret Thatcher; Cuba's Fidel Castro, as well as India's Indira Gandhi, Czechoslovakia's Václav Havel, Libya's Muammar al-Gaddafi, King Hussein of Jordan, King Abdullah of Saudi Arabia, and Venezuelan President Hugo Chavez, among many others. Other interviews with influential people include pop icon Michael Jackson, actress Katharine Hepburn, Vogue editor Anna Wintour, and in 1980 Sir Laurence Olivier. Walters considered Robert Smithdas, a deaf-blind man who spent his life improving the lives of other individuals who are deaf-blind, as her most inspirational interview.


Walters was widely lampooned for asking actress Katharine Hepburn, "If you were a tree, what kind would you be?" On her last 20/20 television episode, Walters showed video of the Hepburn interview, showing the actress saying that she would like to be a tree. Walters merely followed up with the question, "What kind of a tree?",[28][41] and Hepburn responded "an oak" because they are strong and pretty. According to Walters, for years Hepburn refused her requests for an interview. And when she finally agreed to one, she said she wanted to meet her first. Walters walked in all smiles and ready to please, while Hepburn was at the top of the stairs and barked, "You're late. Have you brought me chocolates?" Walters hadn't but said she never showed up without them from then on. They had several other meetings since that first time, mostly in Hepburn's living room where she would give Walters her opinions. Careers and marriage did not mix. Children and careers were out of the question. Walters said Hepburn's opinions stuck with her so much, she could repeat them almost verbatim to this day.[29]

Her television special about Cuban leader Fidel Castro aired on ABC-TV on June 9, 1977. Although the footage of her two days of interviewing Castro in Cuba showed his personality, in part, as freewheeling, charming, and humorous,[42] she pointedly said to him, "You allow no dissent. Your newspapers, radio, television, motions picture are under state control." To this, he replied, "Barbara, our concept of freedom of the press is not yours. If you asked us if a newspaper could appear here against socialism, I can say honestly no, it cannot appear. It would not be allowed by the party, the government, or the people. In that sense we do not have the freedom of the press that you possess in the U.S. And we are very satisfied about that."[43] She concluded the broadcast of the interview by remarking, "What we disagreed on most profoundly is the meaning of freedom—and that is what truly separates us."[44] At the time, Walters kept quiet about seeing New York Yankees owner George Steinbrenner, pitcher Whitey Ford, and several coaches in Cuba, there to assist Cuban ballplayers.

On March 3, 1999, her interview of Monica Lewinsky was seen by a record 74 million viewers, the highest rating ever for a news program.[45] Walters asked Lewinsky, "What will you tell your children when you have them?" Lewinsky replied, "Mommy made a big mistake," at which point Walters brought the program to a dramatic conclusion, turning to the viewers and saying, "And that is the understatement of the year."[46]
 
Doug B said:
I'll drop a quick pick, then.

18.03: Barbara Walters, News Personality

In 1974, Walters became the first female host of an American news program, The Today Show. She had been with Today since 1961 as a researcher, writer, weathercaster, and reporter.

Cribbing her Wikipedia article to save a little time -- reading through a selection of her personal interviews makes for a great account of an extraordinary career:

Walters is known for "personality journalism" and her "scoop" interviews.[28] In November 1977, she achieved a joint interview with Egypt's president, Anwar Al Sadat, and Israel's Prime Minister, Menachem Begin. According to The New York Times, when she went mano a mano with Walter Cronkite to interview both world leaders, at the end of Cronkite's interview, he is clearly heard saying: "Did Barbara get anything I didn't get?"[40] Her interviews with world leaders from all walks of life are a chronicle of the latter part of the 20th century.[28] They include the Shah of Iran, Mohammad Reza Pahlavi, and his wife, the Empress Farah Pahlavi; Russia's Boris Yeltsin and Vladimir Putin; China's Jiang Zemin; the UK's Margaret Thatcher; Cuba's Fidel Castro, as well as India's Indira Gandhi, Czechoslovakia's Václav Havel, Libya's Muammar al-Gaddafi, King Hussein of Jordan, King Abdullah of Saudi Arabia, and Venezuelan President Hugo Chavez, among many others. Other interviews with influential people include pop icon Michael Jackson, actress Katharine Hepburn, Vogue editor Anna Wintour, and in 1980 Sir Laurence Olivier. Walters considered Robert Smithdas, a deaf-blind man who spent his life improving the lives of other individuals who are deaf-blind, as her most inspirational interview.

Walters was widely lampooned for asking actress Katharine Hepburn, "If you were a tree, what kind would you be?" On her last 20/20 television episode, Walters showed video of the Hepburn interview, showing the actress saying that she would like to be a tree. Walters merely followed up with the question, "What kind of a tree?",[28][41] and Hepburn responded "an oak" because they are strong and pretty. According to Walters, for years Hepburn refused her requests for an interview. And when she finally agreed to one, she said she wanted to meet her first. Walters walked in all smiles and ready to please, while Hepburn was at the top of the stairs and barked, "You're late. Have you brought me chocolates?" Walters hadn't but said she never showed up without them from then on. They had several other meetings since that first time, mostly in Hepburn's living room where she would give Walters her opinions. Careers and marriage did not mix. Children and careers were out of the question. Walters said Hepburn's opinions stuck with her so much, she could repeat them almost verbatim to this day.[29]

Her television special about Cuban leader Fidel Castro aired on ABC-TV on June 9, 1977. Although the footage of her two days of interviewing Castro in Cuba showed his personality, in part, as freewheeling, charming, and humorous,[42] she pointedly said to him, "You allow no dissent. Your newspapers, radio, television, motions picture are under state control." To this, he replied, "Barbara, our concept of freedom of the press is not yours. If you asked us if a newspaper could appear here against socialism, I can say honestly no, it cannot appear. It would not be allowed by the party, the government, or the people. In that sense we do not have the freedom of the press that you possess in the U.S. And we are very satisfied about that."[43] She concluded the broadcast of the interview by remarking, "What we disagreed on most profoundly is the meaning of freedom—and that is what truly separates us."[44] At the time, Walters kept quiet about seeing New York Yankees owner George Steinbrenner, pitcher Whitey Ford, and several coaches in Cuba, there to assist Cuban ballplayers.

On March 3, 1999, her interview of Monica Lewinsky was seen by a record 74 million viewers, the highest rating ever for a news program.[45] Walters asked Lewinsky, "What will you tell your children when you have them?" Lewinsky replied, "Mommy made a big mistake," at which point Walters brought the program to a dramatic conclusion, turning to the viewers and saying, "And that is the understatement of the year."[46]
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Great pick. I waited too long. 

 
Doug B said:
I'll drop a quick pick, then.

18.03: Barbara Walters, News Personality

In 1974, Walters became the first female host of an American news program, The Today Show. She had been with Today since 1961 as a researcher, writer, weathercaster, and reporter.

Cribbing her Wikipedia article to save a little time -- reading through a selection of her personal interviews makes for a great account of an extraordinary career:

Walters is known for "personality journalism" and her "scoop" interviews.[28] In November 1977, she achieved a joint interview with Egypt's president, Anwar Al Sadat, and Israel's Prime Minister, Menachem Begin. According to The New York Times, when she went mano a mano with Walter Cronkite to interview both world leaders, at the end of Cronkite's interview, he is clearly heard saying: "Did Barbara get anything I didn't get?"[40] Her interviews with world leaders from all walks of life are a chronicle of the latter part of the 20th century.[28] They include the Shah of Iran, Mohammad Reza Pahlavi, and his wife, the Empress Farah Pahlavi; Russia's Boris Yeltsin and Vladimir Putin; China's Jiang Zemin; the UK's Margaret Thatcher; Cuba's Fidel Castro, as well as India's Indira Gandhi, Czechoslovakia's Václav Havel, Libya's Muammar al-Gaddafi, King Hussein of Jordan, King Abdullah of Saudi Arabia, and Venezuelan President Hugo Chavez, among many others. Other interviews with influential people include pop icon Michael Jackson, actress Katharine Hepburn, Vogue editor Anna Wintour, and in 1980 Sir Laurence Olivier. Walters considered Robert Smithdas, a deaf-blind man who spent his life improving the lives of other individuals who are deaf-blind, as her most inspirational interview.

Walters was widely lampooned for asking actress Katharine Hepburn, "If you were a tree, what kind would you be?" On her last 20/20 television episode, Walters showed video of the Hepburn interview, showing the actress saying that she would like to be a tree. Walters merely followed up with the question, "What kind of a tree?",[28][41] and Hepburn responded "an oak" because they are strong and pretty. According to Walters, for years Hepburn refused her requests for an interview. And when she finally agreed to one, she said she wanted to meet her first. Walters walked in all smiles and ready to please, while Hepburn was at the top of the stairs and barked, "You're late. Have you brought me chocolates?" Walters hadn't but said she never showed up without them from then on. They had several other meetings since that first time, mostly in Hepburn's living room where she would give Walters her opinions. Careers and marriage did not mix. Children and careers were out of the question. Walters said Hepburn's opinions stuck with her so much, she could repeat them almost verbatim to this day.[29]

Her television special about Cuban leader Fidel Castro aired on ABC-TV on June 9, 1977. Although the footage of her two days of interviewing Castro in Cuba showed his personality, in part, as freewheeling, charming, and humorous,[42] she pointedly said to him, "You allow no dissent. Your newspapers, radio, television, motions picture are under state control." To this, he replied, "Barbara, our concept of freedom of the press is not yours. If you asked us if a newspaper could appear here against socialism, I can say honestly no, it cannot appear. It would not be allowed by the party, the government, or the people. In that sense we do not have the freedom of the press that you possess in the U.S. And we are very satisfied about that."[43] She concluded the broadcast of the interview by remarking, "What we disagreed on most profoundly is the meaning of freedom—and that is what truly separates us."[44] At the time, Walters kept quiet about seeing New York Yankees owner George Steinbrenner, pitcher Whitey Ford, and several coaches in Cuba, there to assist Cuban ballplayers.

On March 3, 1999, her interview of Monica Lewinsky was seen by a record 74 million viewers, the highest rating ever for a news program.[45] Walters asked Lewinsky, "What will you tell your children when you have them?" Lewinsky replied, "Mommy made a big mistake," at which point Walters brought the program to a dramatic conclusion, turning to the viewers and saying, "And that is the understatement of the year."[46]
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18.5 Best supporting actress 1950-1970 - Kitty Russell (Gunsmoke)

Her Emmys came in 1970 and 1971 but she was stellar through the 50s and 60s. Seems like good value in a weaker category with only one prior selection. To quote her, "that was a hell of a long time to be stuck behind a bar."

 
Doug B said:
I'll drop a quick pick, then.

18.03: Barbara Walters, News Personality

In 1974, Walters became the first female host of an American news program, The Today Show. She had been with Today since 1961 as a researcher, writer, weathercaster, and reporter.

Cribbing her Wikipedia article to save a little time -- reading through a selection of her personal interviews makes for a great account of an extraordinary career:

Walters is known for "personality journalism" and her "scoop" interviews.[28] In November 1977, she achieved a joint interview with Egypt's president, Anwar Al Sadat, and Israel's Prime Minister, Menachem Begin. According to The New York Times, when she went mano a mano with Walter Cronkite to interview both world leaders, at the end of Cronkite's interview, he is clearly heard saying: "Did Barbara get anything I didn't get?"[40] Her interviews with world leaders from all walks of life are a chronicle of the latter part of the 20th century.[28] They include the Shah of Iran, Mohammad Reza Pahlavi, and his wife, the Empress Farah Pahlavi; Russia's Boris Yeltsin and Vladimir Putin; China's Jiang Zemin; the UK's Margaret Thatcher; Cuba's Fidel Castro, as well as India's Indira Gandhi, Czechoslovakia's Václav Havel, Libya's Muammar al-Gaddafi, King Hussein of Jordan, King Abdullah of Saudi Arabia, and Venezuelan President Hugo Chavez, among many others. Other interviews with influential people include pop icon Michael Jackson, actress Katharine Hepburn, Vogue editor Anna Wintour, and in 1980 Sir Laurence Olivier. Walters considered Robert Smithdas, a deaf-blind man who spent his life improving the lives of other individuals who are deaf-blind, as her most inspirational interview.

Walters was widely lampooned for asking actress Katharine Hepburn, "If you were a tree, what kind would you be?" On her last 20/20 television episode, Walters showed video of the Hepburn interview, showing the actress saying that she would like to be a tree. Walters merely followed up with the question, "What kind of a tree?",[28][41] and Hepburn responded "an oak" because they are strong and pretty. According to Walters, for years Hepburn refused her requests for an interview. And when she finally agreed to one, she said she wanted to meet her first. Walters walked in all smiles and ready to please, while Hepburn was at the top of the stairs and barked, "You're late. Have you brought me chocolates?" Walters hadn't but said she never showed up without them from then on. They had several other meetings since that first time, mostly in Hepburn's living room where she would give Walters her opinions. Careers and marriage did not mix. Children and careers were out of the question. Walters said Hepburn's opinions stuck with her so much, she could repeat them almost verbatim to this day.[29]

Her television special about Cuban leader Fidel Castro aired on ABC-TV on June 9, 1977. Although the footage of her two days of interviewing Castro in Cuba showed his personality, in part, as freewheeling, charming, and humorous,[42] she pointedly said to him, "You allow no dissent. Your newspapers, radio, television, motions picture are under state control." To this, he replied, "Barbara, our concept of freedom of the press is not yours. If you asked us if a newspaper could appear here against socialism, I can say honestly no, it cannot appear. It would not be allowed by the party, the government, or the people. In that sense we do not have the freedom of the press that you possess in the U.S. And we are very satisfied about that."[43] She concluded the broadcast of the interview by remarking, "What we disagreed on most profoundly is the meaning of freedom—and that is what truly separates us."[44] At the time, Walters kept quiet about seeing New York Yankees owner George Steinbrenner, pitcher Whitey Ford, and several coaches in Cuba, there to assist Cuban ballplayers.

On March 3, 1999, her interview of Monica Lewinsky was seen by a record 74 million viewers, the highest rating ever for a news program.[45] Walters asked Lewinsky, "What will you tell your children when you have them?" Lewinsky replied, "Mommy made a big mistake," at which point Walters brought the program to a dramatic conclusion, turning to the viewers and saying, "And that is the understatement of the year."[46]
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Barbra Wawa >>>> Barbara Walters

 
Finales are tough to say much about because of the obvious spoiler ramifications but if I'm being honest, a lot of finales even for my favourite shows leave me cold. This one is perfectly suited to the entirety of the series.

15.09 - The Americans - START - Season Finale

 
“So you think I'm a loser? Just because I have a stinking job that I hate, a family that doesn't respect me, a whole city that curses the day I was born? Well, that may mean loser to you, but let me tell you something. Every morning when I wake up, I know it's not going to get any better until I go back to sleep again. So I get up, have my watered-down Tang and still-frozen Pop Tart, get in my car with no upholstery, no gas, and six more payments to fight traffic just for the privilege of putting cheap shoes on the cloven hooves of people like you. I'll never play football like I thought I would. I'll never know the touch of a beautiful woman. And I'll never again know the joy of driving without a bag on my head. But I'm not a loser. 'Cause, despite it all, me and every other guy who'll never be what he wanted to be are still out there being what we don't want to be forty hours a week for life. And the fact that I haven't put a gun in my mouth, you pudding of a woman, makes me a winner.”

16.08 - Al Bundy - Leading Man (Comedy) 1971-90  

 
Pitchfork said:
“So you think I'm a loser? Just because I have a stinking job that I hate, a family that doesn't respect me, a whole city that curses the day I was born? Well, that may mean loser to you, but let me tell you something. Every morning when I wake up, I know it's not going to get any better until I go back to sleep again. So I get up, have my watered-down Tang and still-frozen Pop Tart, get in my car with no upholstery, no gas, and six more payments to fight traffic just for the privilege of putting cheap shoes on the cloven hooves of people like you. I'll never play football like I thought I would. I'll never know the touch of a beautiful woman. And I'll never again know the joy of driving without a bag on my head. But I'm not a loser. 'Cause, despite it all, me and every other guy who'll never be what he wanted to be are still out there being what we don't want to be forty hours a week for life. And the fact that I haven't put a gun in my mouth, you pudding of a woman, makes me a winner.”

16.08 - Al Bundy - Leading Man (Comedy) 1971-90  
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Ah man, was hoping to make him my Dad pick. 

 
KarmaPolice said:
I am guessing that judging by this and a couple of the picks people are leaning more towards Best Dad, and not Best Dad?
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I see Al as a great/funny representation of a real world dad. Great tv character would be more important than parenting skills if I were the judge. 

 
Yo Mama said:
I see Al as a great/funny representation of a real world dad. Great tv character would be more important than parenting skills if I were the judge. 
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It will be interesting how the judges see it for sure.  My take was similar - more like most memorable TV parents, not best parenting skills.  Some have both, and some don't.  

 
KarmaPolice said:
It will be interesting how the judges see it for sure.  My take was similar - more like most memorable TV parents, not best parenting skills.  Some have both, and some don't.  
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I was thinking it would have been fun to pair Al Bundy on the turn with a traditional mom pick. 

 
I'd be lying if I said my depth of knowledge in the 50-70 categories was strong, so in the interest of taking one that I've actually seen most episodes of and enjoyed (thanks to the earlier mentioned Nick at Nite evenings with my dad)

17.09 - Bewitched - 1950-70 Comedy

 
I know I've asked before and tim suggested looking at the Emmys, but with these ensemble shows, is it safe for our draft purposes to assume most characters in an ensemble show that were in every episode could be drafted for lead male/female? 

 
KarmaPolice said:
I know I've asked before and tim suggested looking at the Emmys, but with these ensemble shows, is it safe for our draft purposes to assume most characters in an ensemble show that were in every episode could be drafted for lead male/female? 
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I guess you could, but I don't know that I'd make that assumption and expect a good ranking. I'd give examples, but I know the aversion to spotlighting.

 
This was the first Dad that came to mind, and is one of my favorites as well.. a deep category for sure... but I am going with one that probably had the most sizable impact on me with raising my own three daughters.

Pick 18.10 - Mike Brady - TV Dad

 
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