**The Official Randall 'touchdown robber' Cobber Bandwagon** (1 Viewer)

[timbrah_ho]

Couldn't catch game again but another pedestrian Fantaay stat line. Could anyone who watched please comment on his is usage? Is he in full out decoy mode lately?

Feels eerily similar to Jimmy Graham's shoulder sprain situation last year--they keep sending him out but he's just drawing coverage right now. Rodgers threw a few picks which suggests offense was out of synch. Was that because of other issues or is that because of no Nelsen plus limited Cobb?

 

[Sabertooth]

Rodgers 1st pick was tipped (and the first one wasn't even a pick as the ball moved when it hit the ground).

As for Cobb it sure seems like his usage is more like a decoy at this point.

 

[Ilov80s]

Is this an ultimate buy high or is it a trap?

 

[timbrah_ho]

Is this an ultimate buy high or is it a trap?

Very hard to say. I traded Cooks and Randle for the guy a couple of weeks ago and I don't regret the trade (yet) given what I gave up for him, but the last two weeks have been underwhelming to say the least. Seems similar to Graham last year -- shoulder sprain lingering which is forcing him to play more of a decoy role than the WR1 he's supposed to be. It's hard to find out any concrete information so proceed with caution but the hope is that he gets better after the bye.

 

[Loipz]

There's gonna be some down weeks but Cobb will be fine.

 

[ROYALWITCHEESE]

Passing offense is in a funk. Rodgers with 3 total TD in the last 2 weeks. They'll get it worked out.

 

[sho nuff]

Couldn't catch game again but another pedestrian Fantaay stat line. Could anyone who watched please comment on his is usage? Is he in full out decoy mode lately?

Feels eerily similar to Jimmy Graham's shoulder sprain situation last year--they keep sending him out but he's just drawing coverage right now. Rodgers threw a few picks which suggests offense was out of synch. Was that because of other issues or is that because of no Nelsen plus limited Cobb?

Offense was just off a bit.

And listening to Packers radio shows today...seems McCarthy and Rodgers both indicated that it seemed like the Rams defensive focus was to take Cobb away.

 

[Faust]

Randall Cobb on double-teams: 'We need everybody making plays'

http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/eye-on-football/25341831/randall-cobb-on-facing-double-teams-thats-why-we-need-everybody-making-plays

 

[mquinnjr]

 

[Stompin' Tom Connors]

Cobb simply hasn't been dependable this year like he was in the past -- a lot likely has to do with the absence of Jordy Nelson. James Jones seems to have benefited more from filling in Nelson's role, but doesn't draw the coverage away like Nelson that helps Cobb.

Week 2 and 3 we saw the Cobb we expected when we drafted -- all other weeks, and now three weeks in a row, he hasn't cracked more than 5 catches and/or 45 yards per game, or sniffed the end zone.

Wonder if Michael Irving was right and the shoulder injury is something that is both lingering and hampering his play.

 

[SCT]

He was just wide open for a touchdown. Been a little snake bit last three weeks between drops and several times Rodgers has missed him. Also over threw him on a go route that would have been six in first half.

 

[rickyg]

He's simply not good enough to beat the defensive attention he's been getting with jordy out. He needs jordy back.

 

[bill bates hits hard]

Look at his schedule coming up. Its gross.bye than Carolina and Denver.

 

[Loipz]

Look at his schedule coming up. Its gross.bye than Carolina and Denver.

Debating benching him during that stretch..

 

[timbrah_ho]

He has a bad lingering shoulder injury. Same thing as Jimmy Graham last year when he was being thrown out there as a decoy. Bye week coming at the right time, shoulder issue will probably linger the rest of the year but hopefully after the bye he'll be better

 

[GroveDiesel]

There were at least 3 plays during today's game where Cobb was either held or interfered with and flags were thrown. That doesn't help fantasy players, but it does show that he's getting open. His opponent just chose to foul him rather than let him catch the ball.

 

[Loipz]

That and drops for decent gains.

 

[SaintsInDome2006]

No one in that offense did well today except Starks. I have no idea how GB won that game really.

 

[timbrah_ho]

No one in that offense did well today except Starks. I have no idea how GB won that game really.

Agreed. If you look at the box score there's 7 different people with 2 receptions each, and nobody had 3. Ball is getting spread around but you gotta think that the bye week is coming at the just the right time for Cobb. He was killing it before re-aggravating the injury a few games ago.

 

[ROYALWITCHEESE]

The offense looks like crap despite the 6-0 record. They need some new wrinkles. And Adams. And Montgomery.

 

[Football Menace]

What we gonna do with this guy? He's burned me the last 3 weeks, where if he would've put up even decent numbers, I would've won my matchup. It's hard to keep this guy in the lineup with John Brown and Willie Snead putting up more points on my bench. I know he has a banged up shoulder, but that's part of the problem. He keeps rolling himself out there when he probably should take a couple weeks off to heal up. Maybe the up coming bye helps, but if he comes out after the bye and puts up another clunker, it may be time to bench him in favor of John Brown/Willie Snead types.

 

[ROYALWITCHEESE]

Nobody scores 15 every week. In the end, he will get his numbers. Bench at your own risk. He's always been a points in bunches guy.

 

[packer_junkie]

Bye coming at right time... Expect better production following the bye in my opinion.

 

[JohnnyU]

It's the instant gratification society we live in. At the end of the season Cobb's numbers will be right what we expect for them.

 

[LittlePhatty]

Really, what else are you going to do but start him every week and take what you get? He's WR1 for the Packers, but the ball gets spread around a lot, as it always has in that offense.

 

[msudaisy26]

It doesn't have much to do with his shoulder if you watch him play. He is drawing penalties and Rodgers actually missed him wide open for a touchdown in the late 3rd or early 4th. It is a lot like John Brown earlier this year. He is getting open or about to be open and drawing flags.

49ers game he still had 8 targets

Rams game he had 6 targets despite the game never really being close.

This week he had 5 targets had a couple of flags and was missed wide open at like the 2.

 

[shady inc]

i could have sworn there was already a randall cobb topic

 

[bill bates hits hard]

Even after the bye Cobb has Carolina with Josh Norman who has been the best cornerback in football covering him.then Denver.

No thanks I'm not waiting it out. While he has name value I'm upgrading elsewhere.

 

[Football Menace]

Really, what else are you going to do but start him every week and take what you get? He's WR1 for the Packers, but the ball gets spread around a lot, as it always has in that offense.

Just because we drafted him as a WR1, does mean he's a WR1. Right now he's playing as a WR3/4 weather we want to admit it on not. I've been starting him the last 3 weeks agreeing with your theory, but that didn't change his ACTUAL production. What about teams that drafted CJ Anderson or Jeremy Hill as thier RB1. Are they supposed continue to stick with those RBs just because of where they were drafted? I think not, if you have other options on the bench.

 

[msudaisy26]

Really, what else are you going to do but start him every week and take what you get? He's WR1 for the Packers, but the ball gets spread around a lot, as it always has in that offense.

Just because we drafted him as a WR1, does mean he's a WR1. Right now he's playing as a WR3/4 weather we want to admit it on not. I've been starting him the last 3 weeks agreeing with your theory, but that didn't change his ACTUAL production. What about teams that drafted CJ Anderson or Jeremy Hill as thier RB1. Are they supposed continue to stick with those RBs just because of where they were drafted? I think not, if you have other options on the bench.

You are reaching a little here.

 

[Football Menace]

It's the instant gratification society we live in. At the end of the season Cobb's numbers will be right what we expect for them.

I don't think I'm looking for instant gratification. I'm looking for ways to outscore my opponent. And right now Cobb isn't helping me do that. I watched The Packers game yesterday and on most of the passing attempts, Cobb the 3rd read. Now does that have more to with his shoulder or just the scheme? I don't know, but I think ignoring the trends isn't a smart strategy.

 

[Football Menace]

Really, what else are you going to do but start him every week and take what you get? He's WR1 for the Packers, but the ball gets spread around a lot, as it always has in that offense.

Just because we drafted him as a WR1, does mean he's a WR1. Right now he's playing as a WR3/4 weather we want to admit it on not. I've been starting him the last 3 weeks agreeing with your theory, but that didn't change his ACTUAL production. What about teams that drafted CJ Anderson or Jeremy Hill as thier RB1. Are they supposed continue to stick with those RBs just because of where they were drafted? I think not, if you have other options on the bench.

You are reaching a little here.

Explain?

 

[ROYALWITCHEESE]

Really, what else are you going to do but start him every week and take what you get? He's WR1 for the Packers, but the ball gets spread around a lot, as it always has in that offense.

Just because we drafted him as a WR1, does mean he's a WR1. Right now he's playing as a WR3/4 weather we want to admit it on not. I've been starting him the last 3 weeks agreeing with your theory, but that didn't change his ACTUAL production. What about teams that drafted CJ Anderson or Jeremy Hill as thier RB1. Are they supposed continue to stick with those RBs just because of where they were drafted? I think not, if you have other options on the bench.

You are reaching a little here.

Explain?

Because he is still a WR2 despite a few "down" weeks?

 

[solorca]

Even after the bye Cobb has Carolina with Josh Norman who has been the best cornerback in football covering him.then Denver.

No thanks I'm not waiting it out. While he has name value I'm upgrading elsewhere.

Norman doesn't usually cover the slot. He'll likely cover him some, but I don't expect a shadow situation.

 

[Bronco Billy]

It's the instant gratification society we live in. At the end of the season Cobb's numbers will be right what we expect for them.

I don't think I'm looking for instant gratification. I'm looking for ways to outscore my opponent. And right now Cobb isn't helping me do that.

I think you just answered your own question

 

[LittlePhatty]

Hey man, bench him if you want, I don't care. Then after he has a repeat of his week 3 stats, you'll start him again to chase those points?

 

[Football Menace]

Hey man, bench him if you want, I don't care. Then after he has a repeat of his week 3 stats, you'll start him again to chase those points?

But aren't we chasing those week 3 points right now? And some of us are not just chasing those points, but also are losing out on better production HOPING that this is the week that Cobb regains his form. To me, winning in this hobby is the result of predicting production, which requires a player to have some level of consistency. Yeah Cobb could win you your week when he produces, but the consistency is just not there. Think Torrey Smith. There has to be a point where you would consider benching Cobb. I guess my point has come before yours.

 

[Jack White]

I could never bench him for Willie Snead.

But I will say my preseason assumption that Cobb would be featured after Jordy's injury was dead wrong.

Turns out Jordy was the key to the whole offense (ask Aaron Rodgers' fantasy owners).

At one point, I was looking at the box score. Nine different receivers had a catch: Seven guys had two catches, and two guys had one catch.

After these three weeks, no one is going to trade for him, so we just have to ride it out.

 

[fightingillini]

But I will say my preseason assumption that Cobb would be featured after Jordy's injury was dead wrong.

Turns out Jordy was the key to the whole offense (ask Aaron Rodgers' fantasy owners).

This in spades.

Cobb works better in a 1A/1B situation. Without Nelson around (in many ways taking away the deep ball), it is easier to defend Cobb and make Rodgers throw to others.

We're finding out that Cobb is a very good WR, but not an elite one.

 

[SaintsInDome2006]

I don't mean this because of physical appearance but Janis really does seem to fit the bill for Nelson's role. Am I wrong in that? I say get him in there.

 

[cr8f]

I don't mean this because of physical appearance but Janis really does seem to fit the bill for Nelson's role. Am I wrong in that? I say get him in there.

No, he has the closest body type and speed, but they didn't consider him ready til recently. He dropped too many balls in training camp though. He could fit the bill now.

Abrederris could be too.

 

[dirtyjay]

Really, what else are you going to do but start him every week and take what you get? He's WR1 for the Packers, but the ball gets spread around a lot, as it always has in that offense.

Just because we drafted him as a WR1, does mean he's a WR1. Right now he's playing as a WR3/4 weather we want to admit it on not. I've been starting him the last 3 weeks agreeing with your theory, but that didn't change his ACTUAL production. What about teams that drafted CJ Anderson or Jeremy Hill as thier RB1. Are they supposed continue to stick with those RBs just because of where they were drafted? I think not, if you have other options on the bench.

You are reaching a little here.

Explain?

But I will say my preseason assumption that Cobb would be featured after Jordy's injury was dead wrong.

Turns out Jordy was the key to the whole offense (ask Aaron Rodgers' fantasy owners).

This in spades.

Cobb works better in a 1A/1B situation. Without Nelson around (in many ways taking away the deep ball), it is easier to defend Cobb and make Rodgers throw to others.

We're finding out that Cobb is a very good WR, but not an elite one.

First 6 weeks of this year and last for Rodgers and Cobb.

Rodgers.

2015 - 1492/15/2 with 160 yards rushing and 1 fumble lost.

2014 - 1419/15/1 with 70 yards rushing and 1 fumble lost.

Cobb.

2015 - 30/350/4

2014 - 29/331/7

 

[Bronco Billy]

I don't mean this because of physical appearance but Janis really does seem to fit the bill for Nelson's role. Am I wrong in that? I say get him in there.

Janis can't carry Jordy's jock. In no way, shape, or form in the same neighborhood regarding talent. There's a lot more to playing a position than measureables.

 

[Wrigley]

You've convinced me, I'm going to sit him next week

 

[timbrah_ho]

Every player is benchable, he and Antonio Brown might cost me a W this week (never thought I'd say that). However Cobb isn't getting benched coming out of the bye unless there are reports that his shoulder hasn't gotten better. I don't buy the "it's because of Jordy" reasoning. Sure that might have an impact but Cobb was looking solid before retweaking shoulder vs SF. There's a "before and after" moment after he came out for a bit in that game. I think he comes out of bye week closer to his usual self

 

[Dizzy]

Nobody scores 15 every week. In the end, he will get his numbers. Bench at your own risk. He's always been a points in bunches guy.

Agreed, but the consistency (lack of) is killing him right now. He may average out to a WR10-WR20 after the dust settles on the season (or even now based on his hot start), but over the past the 3 weeks he's ranked somewhere around WR75.

I just did a quick look and he hasn't had back-to-back single digit games in the past three seasons... that is until these last three weeks.

When a guy that consistent and productive lays three eggs in a row there's going to be some frustration.

 

[TheDirtyWord]

If he's not a WR1, then he's a WR2.

WR1's aren't WR1's every week...same with WR2's. Right now, John Brown is still technically a WR2, but he's had some stinkers sprinkled into his season. Cobb will likely settle into a WR12-15 end of season ranking which while disappointing, still has worth and also means that he's due. Don't get off the train just yet.

 

[Stompin' Tom Connors]

It doesn't have much to do with his shoulder if you watch him play. He is drawing penalties and Rodgers actually missed him wide open for a touchdown in the late 3rd or early 4th. It is a lot like John Brown earlier this year. He is getting open or about to be open and drawing flags.

49ers game he still had 8 targets

Rams game he had 6 targets despite the game never really being close.

This week he had 5 targets had a couple of flags and was missed wide open at like the 2.

If that's true (haven't had the opportunity to watch Cobb in action a lot this year) than I'm good. He will have elite days and so-so days depending on how Rodgers spreads it around. As long as he's not hampered by injury, likely that he will have better games than not over the course of the season based on his talent and the high scoring offense he's on.

 

[Loipz]

He also dropped a couple balls that would have gave him a little better statline. I can't recall the exact gain though it was past a first down.

 

[Faust]

Rotoworld:

Randall Cobb - WR - Packers

Packers OC Tom Clements said Monday that Randall Cobb's shoulder injury has inhibited his ability to get open.

Clements also noted Cobb has a target on his back as the Packers' No. 1 receiver in the absence of Jordy Nelson (ACL). Clements is optimistic Green Bay's Week 7 bye will allow Cobb to overcome the shoulder injury, which has affected his play since August. Cobb's seasonal pace starts are currently 80-934-11.

Source: Packer Report on Twitter

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