**The Official Randall 'touchdown robber' Cobber Bandwagon** (2 Viewers)

[joffer]

Clavicle fracture imo

someone get me a chisel and a stone tablet

 

[trader jake]

Jason Wilde ‏@jasonjwilde 5m5 minutes ago

Randall Cobb is on the sideline, standing next to Aaron Rodgers wearing a green #Packers hoodie. Hands in front pouch of sweatshirt.

Not sure what this means in terms of his injury

Not much. Aaron Rodgers did the same thing a few seasons ago when he broke his collar bone during a nationally televised game against the Bears when Shea McClellin slammed him to the turf.

 

[ghostguy123]

he better not be hurt

 

[ghostguy123]

Jason Wilde ‏@jasonjwilde 5m5 minutes ago

Randall Cobb is on the sideline, standing next to Aaron Rodgers wearing a green #Packers hoodie. Hands in front pouch of sweatshirt.

Not sure what this means in terms of his injury

Not much. Aaron Rodgers did the same thing a few seasons ago when he broke his collar bone during a nationally televised game against the Bears when Shea McClellin slammed him to the turf.

Exactly. It means absolutely nothing either way. Hope he is ok

 

[cr8f]

Cobb's my 11th round keeper I have to have in by 8AM tomorrow. I could switch to Delanie Walker with a 10th round, but was hoping for Cobb.

 

[ghostguy123]

Cobb's my 11th round keeper I have to have in by 8AM tomorrow. I could switch to Delanie Walker with a 10th round, but was hoping for Cobb.

 

[cr8f]

Jason Wilde ‏@jasonjwilde 5m5 minutes ago

Randall Cobb is on the sideline, standing next to Aaron Rodgers wearing a green #Packers hoodie. Hands in front pouch of sweatshirt.

Not sure what this means in terms of his injury

Means it isn't bad

Means it isn't that painful if he's moving his arms.

 

[ghostguy123]

Jason Wilde ‏@jasonjwilde 5m5 minutes ago

Randall Cobb is on the sideline, standing next to Aaron Rodgers wearing a green #Packers hoodie. Hands in front pouch of sweatshirt.

Not sure what this means in terms of his injury

Means it isn't bad

Means it isn't that painful if he's moving his arms.

Right, which still means nothing.

I wonder how many of you thought Jordy was ok watching him jog off the field the other day

 

[spider321]

Cobb's my 11th round keeper I have to have in by 8AM tomorrow. I could switch to Delanie Walker with a 10th round, but was hoping for Cobb.

A one-armed Randall Cobb is better than Delanie Walker.

 

[flapgreen]

Clavicle fracture imo

someone get me a chisel and a stone tablet

Hey! He's the scientist.

 

[flapgreen]

Jason Wilde ‏@jasonjwilde 5m5 minutes ago

Randall Cobb is on the sideline, standing next to Aaron Rodgers wearing a green #Packers hoodie. Hands in front pouch of sweatshirt.

Not sure what this means in terms of his injury

Means it isn't bad

Means it isn't that painful if he's moving his arms.

Right, which still means nothing.

I wonder how many of you thought Jordy was ok watching him jog off the field the other day

ACL injuries completely different

 

[flapgreen]

Cobb's my 11th round keeper I have to have in by 8AM tomorrow. I could switch to Delanie Walker with a 10th round, but was hoping for Cobb.

A one-armed Randall Cobb is better than Delanie Walker.

yuuup

 

[flapgreen]

Jason Wilde ‏@jasonjwilde 5m5 minutes ago

Randall Cobb is on the sideline, standing next to Aaron Rodgers wearing a green #Packers hoodie. Hands in front pouch of sweatshirt.

Not sure what this means in terms of his injury

Means it isn't bad

Means it isn't that painful if he's moving his arms.

A bad injury hurts

 

[The Man With No Name]

Would suck big time for Rodgers and the Packers if he is out an extended period of time

 

[cr8f]

Jason Wilde ‏@jasonjwilde 5m5 minutes ago

Randall Cobb is on the sideline, standing next to Aaron Rodgers wearing a green #Packers hoodie. Hands in front pouch of sweatshirt.

Not sure what this means in terms of his injury

Means it isn't bad

Means it isn't that painful if he's moving his arms.

A bad injury hurts

From Dr Jene

@JeneBramel

What we know: Cobb has shoulder injury, x-ray presumably negative for collarbone fx, Cobb well enough to be back on sideline without sling.

 

[flapgreen]

I read that as well.

 

[tangfoot]

Cobb's my 11th round keeper I have to have in by 8AM tomorrow. I could switch to Delanie Walker with a 10th round, but was hoping for Cobb.

 

[SaintsInDome2006]

Ok deep breaths.

 

[cr8f]

Ok deep breaths.

The sideline posture didn't give details, that won't be known for awhile, but (like you said) time to take a breath.

 

[ghostguy123]

ACL injuries completely different

Your point??

Either an ACL tear or clavicle break can appear minor and not be all that painful.

 

[cr8f]

Cobb's my 11th round keeper I have to have in by 8AM tomorrow. I could switch to Delanie Walker with a 10th round, but was hoping for Cobb.

Not looking for advice.

 

[ghostguy123]

Cobb's my 11th round keeper I have to have in by 8AM tomorrow. I could switch to Delanie Walker with a 10th round, but was hoping for Cobb.

Not looking for advice.

What were you looking for?

 

[flapgreen]

ACL injuries completely different

Your point??

Either an ACL tear or clavicle break can appear minor and not be all that painful.

Speculating on a messageboard like everyone else. Letting the arm hang down with a fracture of the clavicle would be a lot more painful than your average ACL tear, though. A clavicle fracture rarely seems minor.

 

[ghostguy123]

ACL injuries completely different

Your point??

Either an ACL tear or clavicle break can appear minor and not be all that painful.

Speculating on a messageboard like everyone else. Letting the arm hang down with a fracture of the clavicle would be a lot more painful than your average ACL tear, though.

Not a minor fracture, no. It wouldnt.

Speculating is fine as long as you at least have SOME knowledge about human anatomy

 

[flapgreen]

ACL injuries completely different

Your point??

Either an ACL tear or clavicle break can appear minor and not be all that painful.

Speculating on a messageboard like everyone else. Letting the arm hang down with a fracture of the clavicle would be a lot more painful than your average ACL tear, though.

Not a minor fracture, no. It wouldnt.

Speculating is fine as long as you at least have SOME knowledge about human anatomy

Then I do

 

[ghostguy123]

Well sure, that is obvious

 

[flapgreen]

Not really sure why it would matter how much knowledge I have, though. It's the Internet. People talk #### about stuff they don't know anything about all the time. No one really cares what random messageboard dude says he knows.

 

[flapgreen]

Well sure, that is obvious

That really hurts my feelings bro

 

[ghostguy123]

Not really sure why it would matter how much knowledge I have, though. It's the Internet. People talk #### about stuff they don't know anything about all the time. No one really cares what random messageboard dude says he knows.

I look for factual stuff to make my own assessments. It generally works, especially with injuries.

It also helps to be a healthcare professional

 

[flapgreen]

Not really sure why it would matter how much knowledge I have, though. It's the Internet. People talk #### about stuff they don't know anything about all the time. No one really cares what random messageboard dude says he knows.

I look for factual stuff to make my own assessments. It generally works, especially with injuries.

It also helps to be a healthcare professional

I'll make sure I'm a Healthcare professional before I talk about injuries on here again.

 

[Mario Kart]

Bump Finley

 

[ghostguy123]

Not really sure why it would matter how much knowledge I have, though. It's the Internet. People talk #### about stuff they don't know anything about all the time. No one really cares what random messageboard dude says he knows.

I look for factual stuff to make my own assessments. It generally works, especially with injuries.

It also helps to be a healthcare professional

I'll make sure I'm a Healthcare professional before I talk about injuries on here again.

It's ok, all your comments were ignored anyway except for entertainment purposes.

 

[ghostguy123]

Bump Finley

 

[flapgreen]

Not really sure why it would matter how much knowledge I have, though. It's the Internet. People talk #### about stuff they don't know anything about all the time. No one really cares what random messageboard dude says he knows.

I look for factual stuff to make my own assessments. It generally works, especially with injuries.

It also helps to be a healthcare professional

I'll make sure I'm a Healthcare professional before I talk about injuries on here again.

It's ok, all your comments were ignored anyway except for entertainment purposes.

Probably for the best.

 

[The Kerminator]

Not really sure why it would matter how much knowledge I have, though. It's the Internet. People talk #### about stuff they don't know anything about all the time. No one really cares what random messageboard dude says he knows.

I look for factual stuff to make my own assessments. It generally works, especially with injuries.

It also helps to be a healthcare professional

So what factual stuff are you basing your assessment on? Curious what you might know that we don't

 

[massraider]

I would never play Thread Police, but if the mods wanted to come in here, and remove the ridiculous nickname from the title, I would not be unhappy,

Seriously, reading this thread title makes me a little angry.

 

[ourmanflint]

Saw speculation that it was a separated shoulder...nothing confirmed

Speaking as a sports PT, it's one of two things. Should separation, of which there are 3 degrees of severity, or fractured clavicle.

Often make diagnosis by a bad angled replay (if you even saw it) and not examining someone at all?

Always laugh at these diagnosis by people on here...no matter what your background is.

Typical mechanism of injury. Fall onto shoulder with the force of another player on top. I'm surprised at people who dismiss expert opinion with absolutely no background in medicine.

I'm surprised by people who offer medical opinions based only on short clip of a guy going to the ground.I get what it looks like... Its just funny to me.

Mechanism of injury is one of the key pieces of an evaluation. How dare this expert speculate based on replays!r. Mark Adickes ‏@jocktodoc 28m28 minutes ago

.@packers WR Randall Cobb taken to locker room with injury. Best Case: mild A/C sprain. Worst Case: Shoulder dislocation/clavicle fracture.

Either of these are 8-12 week timelines to heal full. Put him on IR/return, get to the playoffs, and the Packers are in business.

A grade 1 AC sprain would have him back in 2-4 weeks.

Not according to these docs:

David Chao

David J. Chao, MD ‏@ProFootballDoc 2h2 hours ago
RANDALL COBB @packers return depends on grade of AC injury. 1: good to go Week 1 2: possible Week 1 3: unlikely Week 1, but still not IR/dfr

Jene Bramel

players are at low risk of missing snaps the following week

 

[flapgreen]

Not really sure why it would matter how much knowledge I have, though. It's the Internet. People talk #### about stuff they don't know anything about all the time. No one really cares what random messageboard dude says he knows.

I look for factual stuff to make my own assessments. It generally works, especially with injuries.

It also helps to be a healthcare professional

So what factual stuff are you basing your assessment on? Curious what you might know that we don't

As I said a few times, I'm just speculating on the few seconds I observed. No facts. Only the people who have looked him over have facts. Sounds like they have done an x-ray to rule out a fracture but not confirmed I don't think. Doctors won't even know for sure until they do an MRI. High degree of separation in the shoulder would usually hurt like hell if you let it hang down or swing it like he was, same for a dislocation or fracture. The comparison to the knee is just a little different. An ACL tear with the other knee ligaments intact would be possible to walk on. Kind of like when they say a guy sprained his knee only to find out the next day that he tore his ACL. Now when you completely trash your knee like Navarro Bowman did, there's no walking on it. I'm going by typical injuries. There are always atypical injuries that could present differently. That's why I said I was speculating like a lot of people are. Even Dr Jene is speculating, like he stated. The difference is I'm random dude on Internet while he's a guy a lot of people follow. Even when you are pretty sure you know what it is, you can't really say what it is until a test confirms it. I think he's an MD. Wouldn't be very professional to make a statement on what it us until you know for suresure. Like you said, most people don't care what I have to say anyway so I'll speculate away.

 

[flapgreen]

Saw speculation that it was a separated shoulder...nothing confirmed

Speaking as a sports PT, it's one of two things. Should separation, of which there are 3 degrees of severity, or fractured clavicle.

Often make diagnosis by a bad angled replay (if you even saw it) and not examining someone at all?

Always laugh at these diagnosis by people on here...no matter what your background is.

Typical mechanism of injury. Fall onto shoulder with the force of another player on top. I'm surprised at people who dismiss expert opinion with absolutely no background in medicine.

I'm surprised by people who offer medical opinions based only on short clip of a guy going to the ground.I get what it looks like... Its just funny to me.

Mechanism of injury is one of the key pieces of an evaluation. How dare this expert speculate based on replays!r. Mark Adickes ‏@jocktodoc 28m28 minutes ago

.@packers WR Randall Cobb taken to locker room with injury. Best Case: mild A/C sprain. Worst Case: Shoulder dislocation/clavicle fracture.

Either of these are 8-12 week timelines to heal full. Put him on IR/return, get to the playoffs, and the Packers are in business.

A grade 1 AC sprain would have him back in 2-4 weeks.

Not according to these docs:

David Chao

David J. Chao, MD ‏@ProFootballDoc 2h2 hours ago

RANDALL COBB @packers return depends on grade of AC injury. 1: good to go Week 1 2: possible Week 1 3: unlikely Week 1, but still not IR/dfr

Jene Bramel

players are at low risk of missing snaps the following week

Agreed low grade sprain pretty easy to come back quickly from, especially if you have the best care in the world to come back. These guys have access to everything possible.

 

[One]

I would never play Thread Police, but if the mods wanted to come in here, and remove the ridiculous nickname from the title, I would not be unhappy,

Seriously, reading this thread title makes me a little angry.

No doubt.

 

[ROYALWITCHEESE]

http://www.brighamandwomens.org/patients_visitors/pcs/rehabilitationservices/physical%20therapy%20standards%20of%20care%20and%20protocols/shoulder-acromioclavicular%20separation.pdf

Typical timeframes and rehab of AC separation. Obviously each case is different.

 

[ghostguy123]

Not really sure why it would matter how much knowledge I have, though. It's the Internet. People talk #### about stuff they don't know anything about all the time. No one really cares what random messageboard dude says he knows.

I look for factual stuff to make my own assessments. It generally works, especially with injuries.

It also helps to be a healthcare professional

So what factual stuff are you basing your assessment on? Curious what you might know that we don't

Nothing, that is the point.

The only facts are that he hurt his shoulder, left the game, came out in street clothes and stood on the sidelines.

From those facts he could have anything from no injury at all to a broken clavicle.

That is the point. There is no tangible info to use for speculation

 

[flapgreen]

Sure, it could be absolutely anything until you have tests to confirm it. Until then, it's all speculation.

 

[ghostguy123]

Sure, it could be absolutely anything until you have tests to confirm it. Until then, it's all speculation.

This is the only accurate thing stated about Cobb so far.

 

[ourmanflint]

http://www.brighamandwomens.org/patients_visitors/pcs/rehabilitationservices/physical%20therapy%20standards%20of%20care%20and%20protocols/shoulder-acromioclavicular%20separation.pdf

Typical timeframes and rehab of AC separation. Obviously each case is different.

This is the Brigham and Women's Hospital and states 1-3 weeks recovery time. Given that Cobb is an elite athlete at peak physical condition and not an old lady, he would be at the low end of this scale or better. Every sports injury expert I've read including Dr Jene and Stephonia Bell say he wouldn't miss any time at Grade 1.

 

[The Kerminator]

MM press conference going on now.

Cobb has a shoulder

When asked if any concern similar to the severity of Nelson he said "Naw, I don't think were in that realm at all."

From his demeanor he doesn't seem concerned at all

 

[mquinnjr]

I would never play Thread Police, but if the mods wanted to come in here, and remove the ridiculous nickname from the title, I would not be unhappy,

Seriously, reading this thread title makes me a little angry.

No doubt.

 

[ROYALWITCHEESE]

http://www.brighamandwomens.org/patients_visitors/pcs/rehabilitationservices/physical%20therapy%20standards%20of%20care%20and%20protocols/shoulder-acromioclavicular%20separation.pdf

Typical timeframes and rehab of AC separation. Obviously each case is different.

This is the Brigham and Women's Hospital and states 1-3 weeks recovery time. Given that Cobb is an elite athlete at peak physical condition and not an old lady, he would be at the low end of this scale or better. Every sports injury expert I've read including Dr Jene and Stephonia Bell say he wouldn't miss any time at Grade 1.

Week 1 is 2 weeks away. That was the quickest one I could find. Healing is healing. Just because you can run fast doesn't mean you heal like Wolverine. Obviously age factors in, but other than that it's outlined nicely here. Some people just know everything, no matter what you present to them. Y'all have a good night.

 

[The Kerminator]

Ian Rapoport ‏@RealRapSheet 52m52 minutes ago
#Packers WR Randall Cobb expected to miss 6-8 weeks. Look for them to sign a Veteran WR this week.

Please delete this. From a fake twitter account.

 

[eNdblu]

Ian Rapoport ‏@RealRapSheet 52m52 minutes ago

#Packers WR Randall Cobb expected to miss 6-8 weeks. Look for them to sign a Veteran WR this week.

Tweetdeck FTW. Mute the fake accounts and they don't get your duped