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**The Official Randall 'touchdown robber' Cobber Bandwagon** (3 Viewers)
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SaintsInDome2006
Footballguy
johnnyboy8102
Footballguy
Dizzy
Footballguy
Sitting him for next two weeks (fantasy football gods willing) in favor of John Brown. Not enough time left in the season to repair my trust in Cobb and the Pack.
Might put him back in for our week 17 golf tourny (lowest score wins).
SaintsInDome2006
Footballguy
This has been my worst year on the waiver wire that I can recall. I never did fix my Cobb problem via add or trade. So yeah I'm rolling with Cobb. The Raiders sack machine led by Mack concerns me, but as always Rodgers is throwing. I will put my chips on him, and yes the extra targets last week were nice to see.
Sup_Yo
Footballguy
so..... 
I take some solace in the fact that ARod has not amassed yardage in the first two games so it's not like cobb is being phased out of the gameplan. But i'm also a little surprised adams is getting as many targets as he is. this feels like a good buy low opportunity in redraft.
I take some solace in the fact that ARod has not amassed yardage in the first two games so it's not like cobb is being phased out of the gameplan. But i'm also a little surprised adams is getting as many targets as he is. this feels like a good buy low opportunity in redraft.
Dismattle
Footballguy
Lets not turn this awesome post to terrible criticism..
Ive owned Cobb since the rookie draft.. (We play return points too) Ive seen some awesome games
Now I know that some of us read/believed Cobb played last Season with a shoulder issue.. I also know some of us have seen Cobb almost disappear too
Last week on my bn, the man had one catch.. I seriously want to cut him. But I know draft stock etc
Can you guys trading/acquiring Cobb explain whats your fascination? Do you think the rest of the Season is Cobb day?
Ive owned Cobb since the rookie draft.. (We play return points too) Ive seen some awesome games
Now I know that some of us read/believed Cobb played last Season with a shoulder issue.. I also know some of us have seen Cobb almost disappear too
Last week on my bn, the man had one catch.. I seriously want to cut him. But I know draft stock etc
Can you guys trading/acquiring Cobb explain whats your fascination? Do you think the rest of the Season is Cobb day?
packer_junkie
Footballguy
I think with Lacy rounding back into form and Jordy being Jordy of old-- it will open up the middle of the field for RC to do his thing. He's going to have to make the most of his targets though cause its going to be closer to 6-8 than 12-14 most weeks I imagine.
Cobb is what he is. A wr3/4. Doesn't have the consistency to be a wr1/2 but will put up enough points over a season to be in the top 30.
If he is your bye/injury fill in, you can't do much better. If he is a starter, you just have to hope he has a good game when your supporting cast has an off week. And hope your supporting cast does well on cobb's bad weeks.
I will say he has a pretty safe floor of about 10ppg. I like to mix my lineup with a couple safe guys then some high upside guys. He does the trick for me.
If he is your bye/injury fill in, you can't do much better. If he is a starter, you just have to hope he has a good game when your supporting cast has an off week. And hope your supporting cast does well on cobb's bad weeks.
I will say he has a pretty safe floor of about 10ppg. I like to mix my lineup with a couple safe guys then some high upside guys. He does the trick for me.
TheBottomLine
Footballguy
He has scored in single digits in PPR in 5 of his last 6 games dating back to last year, the one outlier week being when he scored 12.8 points. I'd say his floor is about 6 points with a ceiling of 18 or so. Can he possibly break loose for 6/60/TD? We can hope so, right?
I guess I'm just overly patient. Or in denial. I think that offense can get back to its 2014 form. They'll need to if their defense keeps getting lit up.
They just paid Cobb good money. I hope it wasn't to catch one pass a game. I am still banking on him being more involved. Especially if cook misses a decent amount of time. Things are cyclical in the NFL. Good teams have bad streaks but they don't last forever. I don't blame anyone for cutting bait but I think the reasoning behind the last year and a quarter slump are legit and will turn around soon.
DocHolliday
Footballguy
I am not so sure about Cobb. I think Adams is going to continue to eat in to what used to be Cobb targets.
Truebluey
Footballguy
Obviously the lack of a running game atm helps Montgomery and Cobb the most, but it was Adams who looked superior at finding holes tonight. Might have been the DBs he was matched with.
But they still like Cobb as their swiss army knife. In addition to the 3 RZ chances described above, they called his number on a rushing play from the 5, and he was going to score until tripped by a shoelace lunge at the last second.
My main fear for him would be holding up with this wear and tear, he's really not built to be a RB, unlike Ty.
But they still like Cobb as their swiss army knife. In addition to the 3 RZ chances described above, they called his number on a rushing play from the 5, and he was going to score until tripped by a shoelace lunge at the last second.
My main fear for him would be holding up with this wear and tear, he's really not built to be a RB, unlike Ty.
SameSongNDance
Footballguy
The first set of columns is snap percentage, the second is utilization, the third is the average utilization over the past 3 weeks and the forth is RZ work.
Week 1
Week 2
Week 3
Week 4
Week 5
Week 6
Week 7
Week 1
Week 2
Week 3
Week 4
Week 5
Week 6
Week 7
Avg.
RZ Trgt
RZ Rush
RZ Total
Nelson
84%
96%
91%
Bye
90%
91%
95%
9
11
7
Bye
13
7
4
8
13
0
13
Cobb
97%
99%
78%
Bye
69%
76%
90%
11
8
3
Bye
12
11
20
14
11
2
13
Adams
92%
76%
46%
Bye
75%
44%
80%
7
7
2
Bye
8
3
16
9
7
0
7
Montgomery
0%
0%
0%
Bye
2%
50%
69%
0
0
0
Bye
1
12
22
12
10
4
14
Since coming out of the bye Cobb has been utilized an insane 43 times and has turned that into a 27/256/2 receiving and a 6/21/0 rushing stat line.
Cobb probably isn't getting enough love given what the situation in GB looks to be moving forward. Rodgers acknowledged after the game last night that although he may not be attempting 56 passes a game, what we saw will indeed be the game plan moving forward. GB will continue to lean on the underneath passing game in an attempt to mitigate the fact that they don't really have a RB at the moment. Cobb is also finally seeing a lot of what he saw in 2014, RZ looks. Regardless of format, at least in the short-mid term, he's going to be unsittable.
Week 1
Week 2
Week 3
Week 4
Week 5
Week 6
Week 7
Week 1
Week 2
Week 3
Week 4
Week 5
Week 6
Week 7
Avg.
RZ Trgt
RZ Rush
RZ Total
Nelson
84%
96%
91%
Bye
90%
91%
95%
9
11
7
Bye
13
7
4
8
13
0
13
Cobb
97%
99%
78%
Bye
69%
76%
90%
11
8
3
Bye
12
11
20
14
11
2
13
Adams
92%
76%
46%
Bye
75%
44%
80%
7
7
2
Bye
8
3
16
9
7
0
7
Montgomery
0%
0%
0%
Bye
2%
50%
69%
0
0
0
Bye
1
12
22
12
10
4
14
Since coming out of the bye Cobb has been utilized an insane 43 times and has turned that into a 27/256/2 receiving and a 6/21/0 rushing stat line.
Cobb probably isn't getting enough love given what the situation in GB looks to be moving forward. Rodgers acknowledged after the game last night that although he may not be attempting 56 passes a game, what we saw will indeed be the game plan moving forward. GB will continue to lean on the underneath passing game in an attempt to mitigate the fact that they don't really have a RB at the moment. Cobb is also finally seeing a lot of what he saw in 2014, RZ looks. Regardless of format, at least in the short-mid term, he's going to be unsittable.
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thanks for the data!! this confirms what I was suspecting/expecting with the RB situation. plus, it's nice to see that Cobb is also getting RZ looks as a RB eventhough he failed to convert vs. the bears. his per game floor is such where he's a no-brain start every week with the added benefit of a high ceiling given the RZ opportunities.
So is he droppable at this point? There's almost no chance I would use him in my 14-team, 0.5 PPR league (WRs are Hilton, Tyrell, Sanders, Watkins) and I could use a second defense, but I still have that fear that he could get picked up and played against me. Or would that be a good thing?
Interseptopus
Footballguy
Is there anyone worth picking up? I mean anyone else you would start or hold from a defensive stand point?
No harm in holding onto him, unless there's a player that will better serve you (offensively or defensively)
Exactly. He's not an obvious hold/drop, depends on other factors.
In my case, it would be to pick up GB D. But I just looked at the rosters of the remaining teams and at least one of them would definitely pick Cobb up, and probably start him against me. For example, my opponent for next week has Julio and was forced to start JJ Nelson yesterday (which worked out, but still).
The fact is, Cobb has been inconsistent over the past few weeks, but he hasn't been all that bad. Rodgers still looks for him in the RZ, and he's got a good match-up against Chicago. I won't be starting him, but I think it is worth playing keep-away from the other owners.
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Interseptopus
Footballguy
If you can wait until Saturday to drop him, that'd be fine. Although GB D might be a hot WW claim for streamers. Tough choice. Although I don't see Cobb turning his season around this week. It was interesting my opponent started Cobb and had Adams on the bench. Why on earth you'd make that move is beyond me. It didn't matter as I had Bell. But still. There's a reason I guess that he limped into the playoffs.
It'd be hard for me to see a scenario where I'd think picking up and starting Cobb was your best option in round 2 of the playoffs.
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SameSongNDance
Footballguy
Insane right. During that stretch where he averaged 20ppg he did help me get to where I am, which was two first round byes but I dropped him in both leagues leading up to last weeks slate of games for DSTs. I was just staring at his targets/production and comparing them to Jermaine Gresham's, noticed they were indistinguishable and quickly realized Cobb was the most expendable player on my teams. He was also grabbed in both leagues, name value is a hell of a thing.
Rookie_Whisperer
Footballguy
Big game yesterday and virtually unusable during the regular season, outside of weeks 5-7. He's a very difficult player to rely on to win fantasy games, especially considering the price tag paid to acquire him (draft position / auction price tag). Kind of looking like that 2014 output was a contract year mirage and not his true value as a fantasy asset. I will be moving him at the first opportunity in the only league I own him.
jeaton6
Footballguy
Will be interesting to see if this is the case or if he is finally healthy again
In the mid to late rounds, I often draft guys that I think could propel my team into the postseason. I'm not looking for safe picks (that's my goal for earlier rounds) but the guy with the highest ceiling. This year Cobb is a fine example. Here is a scenario: Cobb stays healthy enough to capitalize on an opportunity in the running game (if you notice, he accumulated some carries his first few years) because Ty is not the bell cow answer and/or Jordy gets banged up and Cobb gets more opportunity there. He's a later round pick who could re-emerge as a catalyst to the title. The steady-Eddie you could have drafted in the 9th probably doesn't have the potential upside of Cobb. I'm targeting him this year.
Alex P Keaton
Footballguy
He was targeted a lot. Looked healthy and quick.
need2know
Footballguy
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SameSongNDance
Footballguy
WHY RANDALL WHY NOW
Alex P Keaton
Footballguy
Well, they have a lot of mouths to feed. So it certainly was partially due to the game plan. Davante Adams didn't look great today -- that helps Cobb get more targets IMO.
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