Could be a big deal, is definitely an interesting development from my perspective, but if I were setting up meetings with the FBI director and the SIC, I'd want it to be in a SCIF as often as possible.Is it a big deal or not that Sentate Intelligence committee meeting with Comey in SCIF?
Yeah...I think the more important point is that it was a 3 hour meeting. That seems longish if there wasn't anything to discuss.Could be a big deal, is definitely an interesting development from my perspective, but if I were setting up meetings with the FBI director and the SIC, I'd want it to be in a SCIF as often as possible.
Not entirely business as usual, no.Guess the question is whether it's abnormal or not. I have no idea. SEEMS significant, and even the fact the attendees wouldn't confirm they met with Comey seems unusually guarded.
http://thehill.com/policy/national-security/320161-comey-meets-with-intel-senators-amidst-russia-uproar
Rubio's tweet certainly makes whatever was said in the meeting extremely serious.Not entirely business as usual, no.
Precisely. They weren't in a SCIF and the politicians were talking about them. And they were with Comey about the same topic.Rubio's tweet certainly makes whatever was said in the meeting extremely serious.
edit: just to note those articles are JAN 17...not Feb 17.
Treasongate imoTo be fair though, I thought that was already planned for the main passage through The Yuge Wall of Trump...
...I could be wrong though.
Sorry for the spam SID & serious folk, in an effort to apologize, I offer this...although this may be more appropriate, unless this mess gets cleaned up in the proper way soon.
Finally, great work guys/gals, I really appreciate the hard work that has gone into this thread. I don't post much here, but I learn much.
No arguments from me here.Treasongate imoTo be fair though, I thought that was already planned for the main passage through The Yuge Wall of Trump...
...I could be wrong though.
Sorry for the spam SID & serious folk, in an effort to apologize, I offer this...although this may be more appropriate, unless this mess gets cleaned up in the proper way soon.
Finally, great work guys/gals, I really appreciate the hard work that has gone into this thread. I don't post much here, but I learn much.
I believe cacophony is the word you were looking forThere is so much in that press conference transcript that it could take days.
Not kidding, just throw the papers out the window, what an absolutesymphony of insanity that was.
Let's get on with it.Amish and Jones (Republican House members) just released a letter asking for a briefing from Comey.
Agree.Could be a big deal, is definitely an interesting development from my perspective, but if I were setting up meetings with the FBI director and the SIC, I'd want it to be in a SCIF as often as possible.
AgreeYeah...I think the more important point is that it was a 3 hour meeting. That seems longish if there wasn't anything to discuss.
AgreeGuess the question is whether it's abnormal or not. I have no idea. SEEMS significant, and even the fact the attendees wouldn't confirm they met with Comey seems unusually guarded.
http://thehill.com/policy/national-security/320161-comey-meets-with-intel-senators-amidst-russia-uproar
Oh.Nothing to see here:
http://mobile.reuters.com/article/idUSKBN15X0OE
the fact they are even looking at financial transactions is deeply troubling. Panama papers anyone?
Good.Beyond the two FBI field offices, FBI counterintelligence agents based in Washington are pursuing leads from informants and foreign communications intercepts, two of the people said.
This counterintelligence inquiry includes but is not limited to examination of financial transactions by Russian individuals and companies who are believed to have links to Trump associates. The transactions under scrutiny involve investments by Russians in overseas entities that appear to have been undertaken through middlemen and front companies, two people briefed on the probe said.
The fact they are even probing the finances means they have something. It could be as minor as the Flynn payment for the RT dinner, but my guess is there's a paper trail a mile long of the oligarchs buying Trump apartments in his various developments. Once the have those they can work backward slowly, but pretty easily.Oh.
There are three FBI probes.
- Guccifer2.
- DNC hacks.
- And:
Good.
The Senate intelligence committee has sent formal requests to more than a dozen organizations, agencies and individuals, asking them to preserve all materials related to a probe the panel is conducting on Russian interference in the 2016 election and related issues, a congressional aide said Saturday.
The committee chairman, Sen. Richard Burr, R-N.C., and its vice chairman, Sen. Mark Warner, D-Va., sent letters out on Friday — the same day committee members received a classified briefing from FBI Director James Comey. Committee members declined to comment on what was discussed after the more than hourlong briefing.
The aide was not authorized to discuss the issue and spoke only on condition of anonymity
https://www.yahoo.com/news/russia-calls-post-west-world-order-lavrov-005049841.htmlRussia calls for 'post-West' world order: Lavrov
Russian Foreign Minister Sergei Lavrov called Saturday for an end to a world order dominated by the West and said Moscow wanted to establish a "pragmatic" relationship with the United States.
Lavrov was speaking at the Munich Security Conference shortly after US Vice President Mike Pence told the audience Washington remained "unwavering" in its commitment to the US-led NATO military alliance as it faced a more assertive Russia.
Lavrov said that the time when the West called the shots was over and, dismissing NATO as a relic of the Cold War, added: "I hope that (the world) will choose a democratic world order -- a post-West one -- in which each country is defined by its sovereignty." ...
Here's a list of materials you absolutely should not destroy because we may subpoena it sometime in the future. Do not destroy your hard drives or anything, because we plan on asking for this down the line sometime.
Michael Flynn finds himeself unexpectedly available....Any news on possible ambassadors to Moscow?
My guess is bank statements, LLC docs, wire transfers, etc as well. If this is the path they are pursuing (and there is a lot of layering involved), there is going to a bunch of Delaware LLC documents that will need to be retained (and for those that don't know Delaware LLCs are notoriously opaque so this could take some time).Here's a list of materials you absolutely should not destroy because we may subpoena it sometime in the future. Do not destroy your hard drives or anything, because we plan on asking for this down the line sometime.
It's been brought up.I can't be the first one to come in here and ask why the word "potential" is still in the thread title?
An "off the record" get together.....wow. Essentially what everyone is freaking out about what may have happened w the Russkis did happen w China and DNCThis is interesting....
Clnton campaign staff discussing getting together with the Chinese amabassador to discuss US- China affairs
https://wikileaks.org/podesta-emails/emailid/35743
You should start a thread about Clinton's emails. I bet it would get a lot of responses.This is interesting....
Clnton campaign staff discussing getting together with the Chinese amabassador to discuss US- China affairs
https://wikileaks.org/podesta-emails/emailid/35743
I'm getting tired of this whataboutism bull####. Team Trump colluding with Russia and Clinton colluding with, in this case, China are not mutually exclusive propositions. Try to be logically consistent.An "off the record" get together.....wow. Essentially what everyone is freaking out about what may have happened w the Russkis did happen w China and DNC
Even if you could prove your Russia theory the same thing clearly went on with the other candidate. Very relevant but understand why you would want to avoid it.I'm getting tired of this whataboutism bull####. Team Trump colluding with Russia and Clinton colluding with, in this case, China are not mutually exclusive propositions. Try to be logically consistent.
No it didn't clearly go on.the same thing clearly went on with the other candidate.
Someone had a conversation about lifting sanctions against China?Even if you could prove your Russia theory the same thing clearly went on with the other candidate. Very relevant but understand why you would want to avoid it.
That would be quite a trick.Someone had a conversation about lifting sanctions against China?
Can't put anything past her, right?That would be quite a trick.
Frankly, both Kurt and the ambassador are lucky to be alive.Can't put anything past her, right?
Just a demonstration of very wide double standard that gets appliedI'm getting tired of this whataboutism bull####. Team Trump colluding with Russia and Clinton colluding with, in this case, China are not mutually exclusive propositions. Try to be logically consistent.
I think this is where you bow and say "The Aristocrats!"Just a demonstration of very wide double standard that gets applied
You mean like publicly encouraging Russians to hack the DNC and working with Wikileaks to release emails, but then freaking out about leaks involving actual treason?Just a demonstration of very wide double standard that gets applied
What double standard are you talking about?Just a demonstration of very wide double standard that gets applied
A double standard (which I believe both sides can perceive) isn't relevant to the truth, which is why the "What about her!" red herring doesn't work, especially on those who don't give a #### about Clinton. It's even more ineffective when the person whose alleged crimes you're trying deflect from is the president of the ####### country. Whether Clinton is guilty of something has zero bearing on whether Trump is guilty of something, it really is that simple.Just a demonstration of very wide double standard that gets applied
It really is.Whether Clinton is guilty of something has zero bearing on whether Trump is guilty of something, it really is that simple.
The only people who consider it to be a double-standard are people who don't understand the law.Just a demonstration of very wide double standard that gets appliedI'm getting tired of this whataboutism bull####. Team Trump colluding with Russia and Clinton colluding with, in this case, China are not mutually exclusive propositions. Try to be logically consistent.
Note Campbell, former Asst. SOS, emailed Podesta about it immediately.This is interesting....
Clnton campaign staff discussing getting together with the Chinese amabassador to discuss US- China affairs
https://wikileaks.org/podesta-emails/emailid/35743
I don't see why we should bring a real understanding of what's going on with the law into a criminal investigation.The only people who consider it to be a double-standard are people who don't understand the law.
It's LEGAL to talk about the current state of affairs.
It's NOT LEGAL to negotiate sanctions.
Clinton's team was doing the former (actually they were just talking about possibly doing the former), Trump's team was allegedly doing the latter.
A key with Flynn is that he lied about not only the number of times he talked with Russia MFA but when. Flynn made a point that he did not speak with the Russians after sanctions were imposed. He lied. Why do you think he would have lied about that?An "off the record" get together.....wow. Essentially what everyone is freaking out about what may have happened w the Russkis did happen w China and DNC
I think a lot of GOPers are trying to figure out how to thread the needle where they don't piss off his followers by jumping too early, but they don't wait so long that they get dragged down with him.Comey. Senate intelligence committee. SCIF. Three hours.
And no leaks.
I agree. And, I think there's concern that Trump is a menace and dangerous to our national security. So, sooner the better to get him out. But, need bullet-proof case going back to your point. They will lose votes from some down the road, but a definitive case of criminal misconduct would go a long way in minimizing that damage.I think a lot of GOPers are trying to figure out how to thread the needle where they don't piss off his followers by jumping too early, but they don't wait so long that they get dragged down with him.
Maybe this is obvious to you or others, but do you think this meeting is related to the FISA warrants the FBI was trying to obtain? Remember MT's post here a while ago linking a blog to a theory that all of the moves Snowden and Trump have made is really one elaborate mission by Putin being investigated by Comey? How long until that theory gets supported and debunked?Comey. Senate intelligence committee. SCIF. Three hours.
And no leaks.