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The Top 300 Greatest TV Shows of All Time: FBG Consensus: 50 Lists received. 2: Seinfeld 1: Breaking Bad (20 Viewers)
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Leroy Hoard
Footballguy
Lots of great ones, I liked Danica Patrick stealing Dan Patrick's parking space.
Anarchy99
Footballguy
First we have French fries. And French dressing. And French bread. And to drink . . . ta da . . . Peru.Wait'll you find out about french fries and General Tso's chicken!So you are saying it is NOT the San Francisco treat?
I feel duped.
Yo Mama
Footballguy
“Fronch”First we have French fries. And French dressing. And French bread. And to drink . . . ta da . . . Peru.Wait'll you find out about french fries and General Tso's chicken!So you are saying it is NOT the San Francisco treat?
I feel duped.
zamboni
Footballguy
SportsCenter has always been on speed dial for me, but didn’t think of it here either due to so many different hosts over the years.
If I were to pick one of the highlight shows though, I might have gone with CNN Sports Tonight with Nick Charles and Fred Hickman (RIP to both).
If I were to pick one of the highlight shows though, I might have gone with CNN Sports Tonight with Nick Charles and Fred Hickman (RIP to both).
steelerfan1
Footballguy
Always remember Charley Steiner
zamboni
Footballguy
Never heard of him - especially in the music threads
Gr00vus
Footballguy
Bender : That's right baby, I ain't your loverboy Flexo, the guy you love so much. You even love anyone pretending to be him.
Anglelyne : Well maybe I love you so much that I love you no matter who you're pretending to be.
Bender : Oh, how I wish I could believe or understand that!
Anglelyne : Well maybe I love you so much that I love you no matter who you're pretending to be.
Bender : Oh, how I wish I could believe or understand that!
Hastur
Footballguy
Jennie Meyer, you really do go to the outer limits to make an impression!“Fronch”First we have French fries. And French dressing. And French bread. And to drink . . . ta da . . . Peru.Wait'll you find out about french fries and General Tso's chicken!So you are saying it is NOT the San Francisco treat?
I feel duped.
FarFromHome
Footballguy
Quick hits:
Sportscenter. I remember a time when sports news was only on 3 channels at the same time every day. You relied on those handful of channels and newspapers. Pre Internet. Sportscenter was absolutely HUGE for me. HUGE. It came when I was a massive fan of nearly all sports. I watched it for years. I also haven't watched for years.
Last Kingdom. Marvelous. Loved it. Utred. Alfred. Just a solid show for me. It checks most of the boxes for shows I like.
The Crown. Great show. Great cast. Its Fiction. I watched it as fiction and my Wife and i loved the journey. Well made.
Sportscenter. I remember a time when sports news was only on 3 channels at the same time every day. You relied on those handful of channels and newspapers. Pre Internet. Sportscenter was absolutely HUGE for me. HUGE. It came when I was a massive fan of nearly all sports. I watched it for years. I also haven't watched for years.
Last Kingdom. Marvelous. Loved it. Utred. Alfred. Just a solid show for me. It checks most of the boxes for shows I like.
The Crown. Great show. Great cast. Its Fiction. I watched it as fiction and my Wife and i loved the journey. Well made.
BlackCrowes
Footballguy
Sportscenter…..interesting. Action News up next?
shuke
Black Ice Skeptic
Agreed, and probably should have included it for that reason. Why did we feel this way? I don't recall being excited to watch it every morning during summer vacation.
shuke
Black Ice Skeptic
134 - Northern Exposure
Drama
Score: 243
Average Rank: 22.4
A newly graduated doctor is required to set up his practice in an eccentric Alaskan town.
List Breakdown
Nick Vermeil 8
Barry2 14
whoknew 27
UncleZen 53
Totally forgot about this until I saw a post by @northern exposure shortly after I submitted my list. Didn't want to bother changing it.
shuke
Black Ice Skeptic
Why is it legendary?***OFFICIAL *** petition to change the thread title from “Greatest “ to “favorite”
Severance behind a game show
Well, it's a legendary game show and Severance had only had one season in when the lists were made.
Because we were 13 years old, laying in bed watching TV, home alone while parents were at work and siblings were at school and it was the only time you ever had the house to yourself, and this came on.
shuke
Black Ice Skeptic
They are equivalent to me.
The Gator
Footballguy
Why is it legendary?***OFFICIAL *** petition to change the thread title from “Greatest “ to “favorite”
Severance behind a game show
Well, it's a legendary game show and Severance had only had one season in when the lists were made.
Because we were 13 years old, laying in bed watching TV, home alone while parents were at work and siblings were at school and it was the only time you ever had the house to yourself, and this came on.
Mrs. Rannous
Footballguy
HFS. That's above and beyond The Pale.Why is it legendary?***OFFICIAL *** petition to change the thread title from “Greatest “ to “favorite”
Severance behind a game show
Well, it's a legendary game show and Severance had only had one season in when the lists were made.
Because we were 13 years old, laying in bed watching TV, home alone while parents were at work and siblings were at school and it was the only time you ever had the house to yourself, and this came on.
Mrs. Rannous
Footballguy
We watch it during football season with Scott van Pelt.
northern exposure
Footballguy
It's the thought that counts.134 - Northern Exposure
Drama
Score: 243
Average Rank: 22.4
A newly graduated doctor is required to set up his practice in an eccentric Alaskan town.
List Breakdown
Barry2 14
whoknew 27
UncleZen 53
Totally forgot about this until I saw a post by @northern exposure shortly after I submitted my list. Didn't want to bother changing it.
DA RAIDERS
Footballguy
It’s freaking amazing.HFS. That's above and beyond The Pale.Why is it legendary?***OFFICIAL *** petition to change the thread title from “Greatest “ to “favorite”
Severance behind a game show
Well, it's a legendary game show and Severance had only had one season in when the lists were made.
Because we were 13 years old, laying in bed watching TV, home alone while parents were at work and siblings were at school and it was the only time you ever had the house to yourself, and this came on.
This show was/is outstanding. We are going to watch all of it again for sure. We also loved Vahalla which takes place 100 years later. Just 3 seasons but a lot of fun.Well, at least 5 of you have good taste. Glad I had it that high or it might have not even made the list.141 - Vikings
Drama
Score: 230
Average Rank: 32.7
The adventures of Ragnar Lothbrok: the greatest hero of his age. The series tells the saga of Ragnar's...
List Breakdown
John Madden's Lunchbox 26
Atomic Punk 29
Chaos34 40
The Gator 44
Todem 52
Travis Fimmel killed it as Ragnar and yeah, think I agree with you guys that it takes a dip but those were some large shoes to fill. I also liked Alex Hogh Anderson as Ivar.
The Last Kingdom was a totally different feel. And we loved that too. But Vikings was far more gritty.
Psychopav
Help us, Joebi-Wan Brynobi, you're our only ho
The stars of Halt and Catch Fire have been in tons of excellent productions since then.
Scoot McNairy and Mackenzie Davis just starred with James McAvoy in Speak No Evil. The acting was superb.
Scoot McNairy and Mackenzie Davis just starred with James McAvoy in Speak No Evil. The acting was superb.
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Scoresman
Footballguy
127 - Lonesome Dove
DramaScore: 258
Average Rank: 38.8
Two former Texas Rangers renew their spirit of adventure as they and several other residents of a small Texas town join a cattle drive to the Montana Territory.
List Breakdown
kupcho1 20
Chaos34 21
Tau37 21
simey 33
ilov80s 42
BlackCrowes 50
Nick Vermeil 53
AAABatteries 70
Scoresman
Footballguy
Hastur
Footballguy
Don't forget booger(of Revenge of the Nerds fame)!
Dr. Octopus
Footballguy
This is on my watchlist to rewatch. I liked it as a kid but can’t remember enough to rank it. If I had gotten around to rewatching I wouldn’t be surprised if it made my Top 70.
Uruk-Hai
Footballguy
If I had submitted a list, this would have earned me a
because it would have been my #1. Y'all can parse out formats and genres until the end of time, but it's the best TV show I've ever seen.
Runkle
Footballguy
Same. I should give it a chance with adult eyes.
Scoresman
Footballguy
125 - The Office (UK)
ComedyScore: 261
Average Rank: 33.7
The story of an office that faces closure when the company decides to downsize its branches. A documentary film crew follow staff and the manager Brent as they continue their daily lives.
List Breakdown
Barry2 9Pip's Invitation 24
gr00vus 25
kupcho1 35
Binky 36
Scoresman 50
The Gator 57
Scoresman
Footballguy
For a while I was on the fence of which Office I preferred. I tend to like the subtleties of British humor a bit more than American which is more in your face. But they really nailed the US version too.
Who I prefer more Keith vs. Kevin will continually be a debate in my head.
Who I prefer more Keith vs. Kevin will continually be a debate in my head.
titusbramble
Footballguy
This is the quiz
kupcho1
Footballguy
Can you please enlighten me on pickle distribution?
Thanks, I'll hang up and listen.
zamboni
Footballguy
I think a top 10 selection warrants a pickle by Scoresman.
kupcho1
Footballguy
Ah, I thought it was top score for the program if you had it in the top 20.
Pip's Invitation
Footballguy
This is one of the very, very few cases where I have read the book but not seen the TV show or movie based on it.
Pip's Invitation
Footballguy
This is another thing I checked out soon after I got a Netflix subscription in the ‘00s because I had seen so many people rave about it online.125 - The Office (UK)
Comedy
Score: 261
Average Rank: 33.7
The story of an office that faces closure when the company decides to downsize its branches. A documentary film crew follow staff and the manager Brent as they continue their daily lives.
List Breakdown
Pip's Invitation 24
gr00vus 25
kupcho1 35
Binky 36
Scoresman 50
The Gator 57
And I’m glad I did because the humor is right up my alley.
I’ve never watched the US version because I’d read its first season was basically a joke-for-joke rehash of the first UK season, and then I met my wife and we got into our own TV-viewing routine that didn’t include it.
If I haven’t gotten around to the Sopranos despite having MAX, then I’m probably not getting around to US Office despite having Peacock.
sports_fan
Footballguy
I haven't seen the British version, but the first season of the US Office is pretty much just a mini season with only 6 episodes. It doesn't really get going until the 2nd season. The first season is one of the weaker ones. If you want to watch it, you plan to give it 2 or 3 seasons to get a good feel for the show.This is another thing I checked out soon after I got a Netflix subscription in the ‘00s because I had seen so many people rave about it online.125 - The Office (UK)
Comedy
Score: 261
Average Rank: 33.7
The story of an office that faces closure when the company decides to downsize its branches. A documentary film crew follow staff and the manager Brent as they continue their daily lives.
List Breakdown
Pip's Invitation 24
gr00vus 25
kupcho1 35
Binky 36
Scoresman 50
The Gator 57
And I’m glad I did because the humor is right up my alley.
I’ve never watched the US version because I’d read its first season was basically a joke-for-joke rehash of the first UK season, and then I met my wife and we got into our own TV-viewing routine that didn’t include it.
If I haven’t gotten around to the Sopranos despite having MAX, then I’m probably not getting around to US Office despite having Peacock.
BrutalPenguin
Footballguy
The only show I remember "watch partying" in college. Bruce and Cybill had the chemistry goin'!
northern exposure
Footballguy
I do prefer Gareth over Dwight.
whoknew
Footballguy
This book will definitely be on my list in the other thread.
Bottomfeeder Sports
Footballguy
Same. Though I remember the "luke skywalker" season as being pretty terrible.
timschochet
Footballguy
It’s interesting to me how many shows come from before the year 2000. I will be 60 this year so I watched almost all of those shows, but didn’t select almost any of them. I have realized that I began my list with an unspoken but firm assumption:
The quality of television in the 21st century is such that even mediocre shows are superior to the best television of the 20th century.
There are, of course, many exceptions to this rule, but they are exceptions and for me the rule is generally true. But maybe a lot of you disagree?
The quality of television in the 21st century is such that even mediocre shows are superior to the best television of the 20th century.
There are, of course, many exceptions to this rule, but they are exceptions and for me the rule is generally true. But maybe a lot of you disagree?
Atomic Punk
Footballguy
I think the main reason for so many older shows being on is that many of us put together our lists based on them being our favorites, not necessarily a best of list. Memories, nostalgia, time spent with family all seem to have played into these older shows being put on many lists.
zamboni
Footballguy
Agree 100%. We probably discussed this way upthread, but decades ago, TV shaped a lot of people’s lives more so than it probably does now. TV, radio and the like were the basis of our entertainment, social (or lack thereof) and knowledge existence more than just an expansive entertainment outlet.
I think that’s why many of us went that route even if the production value wasn’t the best back then for many shows.
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sports_fan
Footballguy
I expect nostalgia is a big part of it, and I think that's fine. A lot of my favorite shows are ones I remember watching with my friends and family. It makes sense that those memories would weigh more when ranking shows compared to movies or other stuff, since many shows we spent months or years watching. That may change with binge watching being more prevalent today. And yeah, I’d say shows have definitely gotten better lately because of more competition, bigger budgets, better effects, and more complex storylines.
Gr00vus
Footballguy
I think it's true that production quality, general acting quality, and direction quality are much better now than they were 50 years ago. There's also a much less formulaic approach to what's produced than back then as well. Back then it would be tough to get a show to air if it didn't fit a pretty constrained set of genres. Today, there's way more acceptance of risk in terms of types and tones of shows being produced.
I'm not sure that writing has universally improved over that span though. I don't think it's gotten worse, but at this point there are more shows being produced than quality writers available to write for them. Thus for me, the shows on my list from 30, 40, 50 years ago are mainly there because the writing has held up even if some of the rest of their aspects haven't. I will rewatch the shows on my list because the stories and dialog are that good.
I'm not sure that writing has universally improved over that span though. I don't think it's gotten worse, but at this point there are more shows being produced than quality writers available to write for them. Thus for me, the shows on my list from 30, 40, 50 years ago are mainly there because the writing has held up even if some of the rest of their aspects haven't. I will rewatch the shows on my list because the stories and dialog are that good.
Uruk-Hai
Footballguy
Oh, man. If you liked the book, watch the miniseries. A couple of the casting decisions (based on the novel's descriptions) can seem a little odd, but there's nary a misstep from book to film.
zamboni
Footballguy
Good points. Perhaps it was a function of the times, but I also think that more shows back then were very groundbreaking for their era (e.g., All In The Family). Not that there aren’t such archetypes now, but it took a lot of risk back then to break the typecast mold.
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