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Jon_Moore

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Lee Evans was worth every penny.

This Wildcat formation has been pure gold. More Teams should rip it off.

New England evidently taped it.

The Pats aren't totally hopeless. It's about time the coach found a way to get the ball to Moss.

The Packers really should have kept that Favre guy.

Marvin Lewis should still be fired, but this mess isn't totally his fault. The Bengals front office needs to quit resigning/signing all the thugs.

Brady Quinn will be under center by week 7.

Hines Ward is still one of the best all around receivers in the game.

Sage Rosenfels should be cut.

Reggie Wayne's TD grab will go down as one of the best catches EVER. OMG did you guys see that?!

The Titans reach on Chris Johnson doesn't look so bad right now.

The Chargers will still win the division despite a piss poor start. Denver can't play defense.

Half the Sports Writers in America would be without a job right now if it weren't for Terrell Owens.

I know what I said a few weeks back, but the Eagles WILL NOT make the playoffs.

The Redskins are the best team in football.

Everyone that said Reggie Bush can't run inside...you were right. But he is every bit as good as originally thought to be, and his game has translated to the NFL.

What are you guys convinced of?

 
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The Pats aren't totally hopeless. It's about time the coach found a way to get the ball to Moss.
Cassel and Moss spent the bye week joined at the hip to try to establish a connection. It seems to have worked, at least in the short term.
 
Half the Sports Writers in America would be without a job right now if it weren't for Terrell Owens.

;)

 
Sage Rosenfels should be cut.
He'd be snapped up in a New York minute. Just off the top of my head I can think of a handful of teams he would instantly be the starter at. One of which even tried to trade for him this past offseason.
 
Sage Rosenfels should be cut.
He'd be snapped up in a New York minute. Just off the top of my head I can think of a handful of teams he would instantly be the starter at. One of which even tried to trade for him this past offseason.
I agree he's a pretty good QB that screwed up. He'll learn from it and improve.
I don't get all the Rosenfels hate. He was having a very good game. Not like he threw 3 Grossman like stupid picks. In one case he was trying for extra yards, flew through the air and fumbled. Next one he got blindsided from behind. Playcalling, line - lots of blame to go around on that one. To pin it all on Sage is idiotic.
 
The Packers really should have kept that Favre Corey Williams guy.

Reggie Wayne's TD grab will go down as one of the best catches EVER. OMG did you guys see that?!
Fixed the Packer on for you. Favre would not have helped the defense's inability to stop Earnest Graham, Michael Turner, or Roddy White. There are more problems to this team than missing Favre. IMO, Rodgers is the least of their concern as long as his arm holds up.On Wayne's TD, great catch for sure, but why no mention of Booker's?

 
Sage Rosenfels should be cut.
He'd be snapped up in a New York minute. Just off the top of my head I can think of a handful of teams he would instantly be the starter at. One of which even tried to trade for him this past offseason.
I agree he's a pretty good QB that screwed up. He'll learn from it and improve.
I don't get all the Rosenfels hate. He was having a very good game. Not like he threw 3 Grossman like stupid picks. In one case he was trying for extra yards, flew through the air and fumbled. Next one he got blindsided from behind. Playcalling, line - lots of blame to go around on that one. To pin it all on Sage is idiotic.
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Sage Rosenfels should be cut.
He'd be snapped up in a New York minute. Just off the top of my head I can think of a handful of teams he would instantly be the starter at. One of which even tried to trade for him this past offseason.
I agree he's a pretty good QB that screwed up. He'll learn from it and improve.
I don't get all the Rosenfels hate. He was having a very good game. Not like he threw 3 Grossman like stupid picks. In one case he was trying for extra yards, flew through the air and fumbled. Next one he got blindsided from behind. Playcalling, line - lots of blame to go around on that one. To pin it all on Sage is idiotic.
not sure I agree with this. I will agree he played a decent game but he fumbled twice trying to get extra yards with less than 5 minutes to go in the game.. not smart when you have a big lead.. not saying he is 100% to blame but he most certainly was the main reason they lost..
 
Sage Rosenfels should be cut.
He'd be snapped up in a New York minute. Just off the top of my head I can think of a handful of teams he would instantly be the starter at. One of which even tried to trade for him this past offseason.
I agree he's a pretty good QB that screwed up. He'll learn from it and improve.
I don't get all the Rosenfels hate. He was having a very good game. Not like he threw 3 Grossman like stupid picks. In one case he was trying for extra yards, flew through the air and fumbled. Next one he got blindsided from behind. Playcalling, line - lots of blame to go around on that one. To pin it all on Sage is idiotic.
Very good posting.I admire the way Sage took all the blame and didn't point fingers.
 
The Packers really should have kept that Favre guy.

Brady Quinn will be under center by week 7.

Sage Rosenfels should be cut.

Reggie Wayne's TD grab will go down as one of the best catches EVER. OMG did you guys see that?!

The Chargers will still win the division despite a piss poor start. Denver can't play defense.

Half the Sports Writers in America would be without a job right now if it weren't for Terrell Owens.

I know what I said a few weeks back, but the Eagles WILL NOT make the playoffs.

The Redskins are the best team in football.
If these are things you are "convinced of", I'd love to see the crap you simply "think". Seriously, if you are truly "convinced" of all these things, your life must be an absolute mess with all of the wishy-washy mind-changing crap you must force your family to deal with on a daily basis.Not trying to be a butt-head...just (strongly) suggesting you re-name your weekly column. :kicksrock:

 
Even though he ripped my guts out, Sage Rosenfels should definitely not be cut. Sage is the only backup QB on the roster. I'd prefer to keep Owen Daniels at his natural position and never see him behind center.

To those who say there's plenty of blame to go around: uh, no. This collapse was all on one player. The Texans played a damn near perfect game for 55 minutes. The only one who screwed up in the last five was Sage Rosenfels. Doing his best Knowshon Moreno was never part of the play call.

 
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Lee Evans was worth every penny.This Wildcat formation has been pure gold. More Teams should rip it off. New England evidently taped it.The Pats aren't totally hopeless. It's about time the coach found a way to get the ball to Moss.The Packers really should have kept that Favre guy.Marvin Lewis should still be fired, but this mess isn't totally his fault. The Bengals front office needs to quit resigning/signing all the thugs. Brady Quinn will be under center by week 7.Hines Ward is still one of the best all around receivers in the game.Sage Rosenfels should be cut.Reggie Wayne's TD grab will go down as one of the best catches EVER. OMG did you guys see that?!The Titans reach on Chris Johnson doesn't look so bad right now.The Chargers will still win the division despite a piss poor start. Denver can't play defense.Half the Sports Writers in America would be without a job right now if it weren't for Terrell Owens.I know what I said a few weeks back, but the Eagles WILL NOT make the playoffs.The Redskins are the best team in football.Everyone that said Reggie Bush can't run inside...you were right. But he is every bit as good as originally thought to be, and his game has translated to the NFL.
A lot of stupid in this post. Rogers has outperformed Favre all season, Sage could start for many teams, so cutting him is a joke. The Redskins? Come on. And the direct snap to Faulk has been a staple in the Patriots playbook for years. I'm surprised you didn't know this
 
Sage Rosenfels should be cut.
He'd be snapped up in a New York minute. Just off the top of my head I can think of a handful of teams he would instantly be the starter at. One of which even tried to trade for him this past offseason.
I agree he's a pretty good QB that screwed up. He'll learn from it and improve.
I don't get all the Rosenfels hate. He was having a very good game. Not like he threw 3 Grossman like stupid picks. In one case he was trying for extra yards, flew through the air and fumbled. Next one he got blindsided from behind. Playcalling, line - lots of blame to go around on that one. To pin it all on Sage is idiotic.
Very good posting.I admire the way Sage took all the blame and didn't point fingers.
Yeah, he's a stand up guy.
 
Even though he ripped my guts out, Sage Rosenfels should definitely not be cut. Sage is the only backup QB on the roster. I'd prefer to keep Owen Daniels at his natural position and never see him behind center. To those who say there's plenty of blame to go around: uh, no. This collapse was all on one player. The Texans played a damn near perfect game for 55 minutes. The only one who screwed up in the last five was Sage Rosenfels. Doing his best Knowshon Moreno was never part of the play call.
Texans played some pretty soft defense in the 4th quarter. It took Indy just over 4 minutes to go the length of the field and score. That made it a 10 point game with 4:04 remaining. You don't think that contributed to the collapse.
 
I don't get all the Rosenfels hate. He was having a very good game. Not like he threw 3 Grossman like stupid picks. In one case he was trying for extra yards, flew through the air and fumbled. Next one he got blindsided from behind. Playcalling, line - lots of blame to go around on that one. To pin it all on Sage is idiotic.
Fumble that didn't happen: Sage stretches the ball out for about an hour, a good foot shy of the end zone and by some miracle, no Indy defenders notice and swat it out. This was as dumb as the other fumbles but didn't make the highlight reels.Fumble 1: Up by 10, clock running in the 4th. A slide results in 4th & 1 or 2. Under no circumstance is it anything but a boneheaded play for a QB to risk a fumble by trying to leap through 3 defenders. Playcalling & Oline had nothing to do with this. Taking a knee and punting was a much better option. This one's on Sage.

Fumble 2: Up by 3, clock running in the 4th, line breaks down and Sage rolls out left. You're up with 3 minutes remaining and your D has only allowed 1 score since the 1st quarter, TAKE THE SACK. Sage was trying to force some kind of heroic play, when none was needed. Going down and letting the clock tick down was the correct play. Again, this is on Sage. Blame the oline or playcalling for not getting a first down here, but Sage again was playing reckless with the football when they were still in the lead.

This loss was 100% on Rosenfels. Taking a knee and punting in both those situations almost definitely results in a Texans win.

ETA: All that said, cut Sage?? That's crazy talk.

 
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Even though he ripped my guts out, Sage Rosenfels should definitely not be cut. Sage is the only backup QB on the roster. I'd prefer to keep Owen Daniels at his natural position and never see him behind center.

To those who say there's plenty of blame to go around: uh, no. This collapse was all on one player. The Texans played a damn near perfect game for 55 minutes. The only one who screwed up in the last five was Sage Rosenfels. Doing his best Knowshon Moreno was never part of the play call.
Texans played some pretty soft defense in the 4th quarter. It took Indy just over 4 minutes to go the length of the field and score. That made it a 10 point game with 4:04 remaining. You don't think that contributed to the collapse.
Fair enough. So there's 4:04 remaining, 10pt lead. Houston takes 3 knees and punts. Indy has to go the length of the field, again, either have spent some timeouts or having only 2 minutes remaining. Assume they score. 3pt game. They've got to recover an onside kick or it's game over. Even if they do recover the kick, by this time they've got just seconds and probably no timeouts to get into field goal range. And if all the stars align and Indy pulls that all off, there's still OT.Seriously, without those two boneheaded fumbles, this is the Texans game. That loss is on Sage.

 
Even though he ripped my guts out, Sage Rosenfels should definitely not be cut. Sage is the only backup QB on the roster. I'd prefer to keep Owen Daniels at his natural position and never see him behind center. To those who say there's plenty of blame to go around: uh, no. This collapse was all on one player. The Texans played a damn near perfect game for 55 minutes. The only one who screwed up in the last five was Sage Rosenfels. Doing his best Knowshon Moreno was never part of the play call.
Texans played some pretty soft defense in the 4th quarter. It took Indy just over 4 minutes to go the length of the field and score. That made it a 10 point game with 4:04 remaining. You don't think that contributed to the collapse.
Nope. The Texans held a comfortable lead with the clock firmly on their side. The defense had stopped Manning and the Colts offense all day, allowing a mere ten points against a team that usually scores at will against them. Pointing the blame finger at the defense for allowing a late TD drive in a soft prevent is out of touch with reality. That game was won. Sage Rosenfels completely gave it away, all by himself. All he had to do was slide.
 
Even though he ripped my guts out, Sage Rosenfels should definitely not be cut. Sage is the only backup QB on the roster. I'd prefer to keep Owen Daniels at his natural position and never see him behind center. To those who say there's plenty of blame to go around: uh, no. This collapse was all on one player. The Texans played a damn near perfect game for 55 minutes. The only one who screwed up in the last five was Sage Rosenfels. Doing his best Knowshon Moreno was never part of the play call.
Texans played some pretty soft defense in the 4th quarter. It took Indy just over 4 minutes to go the length of the field and score. That made it a 10 point game with 4:04 remaining. You don't think that contributed to the collapse.
Nope. The Texans held a comfortable lead with the clock firmly on their side. The defense had stopped Manning and the Colts offense all day, allowing a mere ten points against a team that usually scores at will against them. Pointing the blame finger at the defense for allowing a late TD drive in a soft prevent is out of touch with reality. That game was won. Sage Rosenfels completely gave it away, all by himself. All he had to do was slide.
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Even though he ripped my guts out, Sage Rosenfels should definitely not be cut. Sage is the only backup QB on the roster. I'd prefer to keep Owen Daniels at his natural position and never see him behind center.

To those who say there's plenty of blame to go around: uh, no. This collapse was all on one player. The Texans played a damn near perfect game for 55 minutes. The only one who screwed up in the last five was Sage Rosenfels. Doing his best Knowshon Moreno was never part of the play call.
Texans played some pretty soft defense in the 4th quarter. It took Indy just over 4 minutes to go the length of the field and score. That made it a 10 point game with 4:04 remaining. You don't think that contributed to the collapse.
Fair enough. So there's 4:04 remaining, 10pt lead. Houston takes 3 knees and punts. Indy has to go the length of the field, again, either have spent some timeouts or having only 2 minutes remaining. Assume they score. 3pt game. They've got to recover an onside kick or it's game over. Even if they do recover the kick, by this time they've got just seconds and probably no timeouts to get into field goal range. And if all the stars align and Indy pulls that all off, there's still OT.Seriously, without those two boneheaded fumbles, this is the Texans game. That loss is on Sage.
But Sage also put them in position to win the game in the first place. Sage's job is to excute the play call. If he was told to take a knee he probably would have. Kubiak called a pass to Slaten on 2nd down just prior to the 2nd fumble which fell incomplete and stopped the clock. Rosenfels made 2 critical mistakes there is no doubt but I have a hard time pinning all the blame on him.
 
Of course Sage's performance put the team in position to win. That's beyond dispute. However, his mind-blowing blunders at the worst possible time (and this is nothing new, btw) cost his team a very important win.

Also, that pass to Slaton on second down didn't just fall incomplete. Kubiak said they'd practiced that short inside slant to Slaton, but Rosenfels threw it two feet behind him.

To be clear, I fully support the guy and am happy he's my team's backup qb. But he's a backup for a reason.

 
Even though he ripped my guts out, Sage Rosenfels should definitely not be cut. Sage is the only backup QB on the roster. I'd prefer to keep Owen Daniels at his natural position and never see him behind center.

To those who say there's plenty of blame to go around: uh, no. This collapse was all on one player. The Texans played a damn near perfect game for 55 minutes. The only one who screwed up in the last five was Sage Rosenfels. Doing his best Knowshon Moreno was never part of the play call.
Texans played some pretty soft defense in the 4th quarter. It took Indy just over 4 minutes to go the length of the field and score. That made it a 10 point game with 4:04 remaining. You don't think that contributed to the collapse.
Fair enough. So there's 4:04 remaining, 10pt lead. Houston takes 3 knees and punts. Indy has to go the length of the field, again, either have spent some timeouts or having only 2 minutes remaining. Assume they score. 3pt game. They've got to recover an onside kick or it's game over. Even if they do recover the kick, by this time they've got just seconds and probably no timeouts to get into field goal range. And if all the stars align and Indy pulls that all off, there's still OT.Seriously, without those two boneheaded fumbles, this is the Texans game. That loss is on Sage.
But Sage also put them in position to win the game in the first place. Sage's job is to excute the play call. If he was told to take a knee he probably would have. Kubiak called a pass to Slaten on 2nd down just prior to the 2nd fumble which fell incomplete and stopped the clock. Rosenfels made 2 critical mistakes there is no doubt but I have a hard time pinning all the blame on him.
I didn't say anything about Sage prior to the last 5 minutes. He played great football, which is why this "cut Sage" talk is just ridiculous.Sage's 2nd job is executing the play, his 1st job (like anyone else on offense), is to protect the football, when protecting a lead. I'm glad you mentioned the 2nd & 9 call to pass to Slaton that fell incomplete. That was a screen, it should be a very high percentage completion play; but Sage looked pretty rattled at that point and threw way behind Slaton. If it's me, I run that ball, but a professional QB also shouldn't miss that.

Either way, the turnovers were a direct result of Sage playing reckless with the football, at a time when protecting the ball is most important. He's running around waving the ball around on his own 20 yard line. That was Sage's decision, not Kubiak's.

 
Lee Evans was worth every penny.

This Wildcat formation has been pure gold. More Teams should rip it off.

New England evidently taped it.

The Pats aren't totally hopeless. It's about time the coach found a way to get the ball to Moss.

The Packers really should have kept that Favre guy.

Marvin Lewis should still be fired, but this mess isn't totally his fault. The Bengals front office needs to quit resigning/signing all the thugs.

Brady Quinn will be under center by week 7.

Hines Ward is still one of the best all around receivers in the game.

Sage Rosenfels should be cut.

Reggie Wayne's TD grab will go down as one of the best catches EVER. OMG did you guys see that?!

The Titans reach on Chris Johnson doesn't look so bad right now.

The Chargers will still win the division despite a piss poor start. Denver can't play defense.

Half the Sports Writers in America would be without a job right now if it weren't for Terrell Owens.

I know what I said a few weeks back, but the Eagles WILL NOT make the playoffs.

The Redskins are the best team in football.

Everyone that said Reggie Bush can't run inside...you were right. But he is every bit as good as originally thought to be, and his game has translated to the NFL.
A lot of stupid in this post. Rogers has outperformed Favre all season, Sage could start for many teams, so cutting him is a joke. The Redskins? Come on. And the direct snap to Faulk has been a staple in the Patriots playbook for years. I'm surprised you didn't know this
Actually the wildcat is not just a direct snap. There's another wrinkle that is making it particularly effective. :shrug:
 
This thing I am convinced of:

Mario Williams deserved to be the top overall pick in the 2006 draft.

The man is a beast of a defensive player and a certain Pro-Bowler for years to come. If the Rosencopter hadn't lifted off Sunday, Mario would've been a frequent topic of discussion this week because of his dominating performance against the Colts. Instead of hearing about a Colts "comeback" that wasn't really a comeback, the NFL gasbags would be congratulating Charley Casserly again and pointing at the logic behind the pick--trying to stop Peyton Manning twice a year.

 
Just a few all in one responses:

Brett Favre is leading the NFL in passer rating. Aaron Rodgers has hardly sucked, but I do believe that team has at least 2 more wins if Favre is the QB.

I initially thought the emergence of Jay Cutler would lead the Broncos to the division, but they can't stop anyone. San Diego's defense may be so/so, but seriously.

I have no idea how Tom Brady even entered the discussion. It was meant to be a sarcastic remark, that got taken way too seriously. However, they didn't run the wildcat formation, it was a simple direct snap.

As for the poster who said there is a whole lot of stupid in this, I hope you'll keep reading in the future friend.

Lastly, Marty Booker's catch was real pretty, but that's all. The way Wayne pulled it away with one hand, went Ballerina with no foot space at all...that whole series of events was just amazing.

 
This thing I am convinced of: Mario Williams deserved to be the top overall pick in the 2006 draft. The man is a beast of a defensive player and a certain Pro-Bowler for years to come. If the Rosencopter hadn't lifted off Sunday, Mario would've been a frequent topic of discussion this week because of his dominating performance against the Colts. Instead of hearing about a Colts "comeback" that wasn't really a comeback, the NFL gasbags would be congratulating Charley Casserly again and pointing at the logic behind the pick--trying to stop Peyton Manning twice a year.
Casserly drove this franchise into the ground. Give him credit that he was in agreement with Kubiak's decision to take Mario if you want. But in Casserly's own recounting of the events, it was Kubiak who made the final call.
 
This thing I am convinced of: Mario Williams deserved to be the top overall pick in the 2006 draft. The man is a beast of a defensive player and a certain Pro-Bowler for years to come. If the Rosencopter hadn't lifted off Sunday, Mario would've been a frequent topic of discussion this week because of his dominating performance against the Colts. Instead of hearing about a Colts "comeback" that wasn't really a comeback, the NFL gasbags would be congratulating Charley Casserly again and pointing at the logic behind the pick--trying to stop Peyton Manning twice a year.
Casserly drove this franchise into the ground. Give him credit that he was in agreement with Kubiak's decision to take Mario if you want. But in Casserly's own recounting of the events, it was Kubiak who made the final call.
The question of who made that call depends on who you ask. Personally, I won't give Casserly credit for that pick, but the pundits always do.
 
The Redskins are the best team in football.
:rolleyes: They're not even leading their division.
look at the teams they have beaten ON THE ROAD at this point that happen to be in their division, and pwn yourself for me real quick.
The Redskins lost to the Giants, who are undefeated and ahead of them in the division.The Redskins caught the Cowboys with their pants down. They caught the Eagles when Brian Westbrook was beat up and the Eagles are over-rated. They beat Arizona, who seem to forget what a football looks like when they play on the east coast. They beat the New Orlean Saints, who are also a horrible road team and are also over-rated.The Redskins are solid, probably top-5. They are not the best team in the league.
 
The Redskins are the best team in football.
:X They're not even leading their division.
look at the teams they have beaten ON THE ROAD at this point that happen to be in their division, and pwn yourself for me real quick.
The Redskins lost to the Giants, who are undefeated and ahead of them in the division.The Redskins caught the Cowboys with their pants down. They caught the Eagles when Brian Westbrook was beat up and the Eagles are over-rated. They beat Arizona, who seem to forget what a football looks like when they play on the east coast. They beat the New Orlean Saints, who are also a horrible road team and are also over-rated.The Redskins are solid, probably top-5. They are not the best team in the league.
Not a bad post. Being a Redskins homer I'd put a little different spin on some of the statements in the post, but the conclusion that the Redskins are a solid, top-5 team right now is correct. However, I'm not convinced that the Giants are the best team simply because they're undefeated and beat the Redskins.
 
Jon_Moore said:
Brett Favre is leading the NFL in passer rating. Aaron Rodgers has hardly sucked, but I do believe that team has at least 2 more wins if Favre is the QB.
Why? Is he going to play defense too?Is he going to block?Was he going to be out there instead of a rookie TE called for holding on a FG?Would he not throw an INT late in a game?I believe the team maybe wins one of the games they lost...but its possible they even lose one of the games that they won as well. We just cannot say for sure what they "would" have done with him.IMO, the team's problems are not the QB position right now.
 
Jon_Moore said:
Brett Favre is leading the NFL in passer rating. Aaron Rodgers has hardly sucked, but I do believe that team has at least 2 more wins if Favre is the QB.
They could also easily be 1-4 with Favre. Rodgers played a great, mistake-free game in a close win week 1. With 1 or 2 typical Favre boners that night, the Packers could certainly have lost that game.
 
Lee Evans was worth every penny.This Wildcat formation has been pure gold. More Teams should rip it off. New England evidently taped it.The Pats aren't totally hopeless. It's about time the coach found a way to get the ball to Moss.The Packers really should have kept that Favre guy.Marvin Lewis should still be fired, but this mess isn't totally his fault. The Bengals front office needs to quit resigning/signing all the thugs. Brady Quinn will be under center by week 7.Hines Ward is still one of the best all around receivers in the game.Sage Rosenfels should be cut.Reggie Wayne's TD grab will go down as one of the best catches EVER. OMG did you guys see that?!The Titans reach on Chris Johnson doesn't look so bad right now.The Chargers will still win the division despite a piss poor start. Denver can't play defense.Half the Sports Writers in America would be without a job right now if it weren't for Terrell Owens.I know what I said a few weeks back, but the Eagles WILL NOT make the playoffs.The Redskins are the best team in football.Everyone that said Reggie Bush can't run inside...you were right. But he is every bit as good as originally thought to be, and his game has translated to the NFL.
A lot of stupid in this post.
Almost all of it.
 
This thing I am convinced of: Mario Williams deserved to be the top overall pick in the 2006 draft. The man is a beast of a defensive player and a certain Pro-Bowler for years to come. If the Rosencopter hadn't lifted off Sunday, Mario would've been a frequent topic of discussion this week because of his dominating performance against the Colts. Instead of hearing about a Colts "comeback" that wasn't really a comeback, the NFL gasbags would be congratulating Charley Casserly again and pointing at the logic behind the pick--trying to stop Peyton Manning twice a year.
I think if we redrafted 2006 that Jay Cutler would have gone #1.
 
Jon_Moore said:
I initially thought the emergence of Jay Cutler would lead the Broncos to the division, but they can't stop anyone. San Diego's defense may be so/so, but seriously.
Yes Jon....let's get serious
Rk Team Name .........G Pts/G TotPts Plys Yds/G Yds/P 1st/G 3rd Md 3rd Att 3rd Pct 4th Md 4th Att 4th Pct Pen Pen Yds ToP/G FUM Lost 28 San Diego Chargers 5 25.8 129 345 379.0 5.5 22.6 20 62 32 5 8 62 24 170 32:08 8 4 29 Denver Broncos ...5 26.0 130 308 388.4 6.3 19.0 27 64 42 3 5 60 32 282 30:38 7 3Looks to me that those 2 D's are just about equally inept. Now let's take a gander at the schdulesDen: @OAK SD NO @KC TB

SD: CAR @DEN NYJ @OAK @MIA

I'm not seeing either of the 2 teams having a particularly tough matchup against really great offensive teams; other than each other. Don't have the time, but it'd be interesting to see how each did @OAK. I'm not trying to be pertinent, but I just don't see how anyone can feel that Denver is a lock to NOT win that division and using their D as the justification for why they're so much worse off than the Chargers. Both teams have some serious work to do.

 
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The Redskins are the best team in football.
:goodposting: They're not even leading their division.
look at the teams they have beaten ON THE ROAD at this point that happen to be in their division, and pwn yourself for me real quick.
The Redskins lost to the Giants, who are undefeated and ahead of them in the division.The Redskins caught the Cowboys with their pants down. They caught the Eagles when Brian Westbrook was beat up and the Eagles are over-rated. They beat Arizona, who seem to forget what a football looks like when they play on the east coast. They beat the New Orlean Saints, who are also a horrible road team and are also over-rated.The Redskins are solid, probably top-5. They are not the best team in the league.
Not a bad post. Being a Redskins homer I'd put a little different spin on some of the statements in the post, but the conclusion that the Redskins are a solid, top-5 team right now is correct. However, I'm not convinced that the Giants are the best team simply because they're undefeated and beat the Redskins.
I'm a Skins homer and I wouldn't call them the best team in the NFL right now.However, I would say the NFC EAST is by far the best conference in the NFL right now. By far.
 
I'm a Skins homer and I wouldn't call them the best team in the NFL right now.

However, I would say the NFC EAST is by far the best conference in the NFL right now. By far.
They must be pretty good, to have their own conference and all. :thumbdown:
 
The Redskins are the best team in football.
:goodposting: They're not even leading their division.
look at the teams they have beaten ON THE ROAD at this point that happen to be in their division, and pwn yourself for me real quick.
The Redskins lost to the Giants, who are undefeated and ahead of them in the division.The Redskins caught the Cowboys with their pants down. They caught the Eagles when Brian Westbrook was beat up and the Eagles are over-rated. They beat Arizona, who seem to forget what a football looks like when they play on the east coast. They beat the New Orlean Saints, who are also a horrible road team and are also over-rated.The Redskins are solid, probably top-5. They are not the best team in the league.
Not a bad post. Being a Redskins homer I'd put a little different spin on some of the statements in the post, but the conclusion that the Redskins are a solid, top-5 team right now is correct. However, I'm not convinced that the Giants are the best team simply because they're undefeated and beat the Redskins.
I'm a Skins homer and I wouldn't call them the best team in the NFL right now.However, I would say the NFC EAST is by far the best conference in the NFL right now. By far.
Other than the Gints, who would you say is better than the Skins? Don't think you can make a case for any other team and say clearly they are better. I would bet the Skins have played the toughest schedule so far and are 4-1. The Titans are good but their schedule doesn't prove it.I don't think you can make excuses for every team the Skins have beaten and just disregard them.Top 2 IMHO.
 
The NFC East is easily the most dominant division, top to bottom.

Washington IMO is the 2nd best team, the Giants the 1st. Philly and Dallas would win most other divisions - probably any other division, other than the AFC South.

 
The Redskins are the best team in football.
:kicksrock: They're not even leading their division.
look at the teams they have beaten ON THE ROAD at this point that happen to be in their division, and pwn yourself for me real quick.
The Redskins lost to the Giants, who are undefeated and ahead of them in the division.The Redskins caught the Cowboys with their pants down. They caught the Eagles when Brian Westbrook was beat up and the Eagles are over-rated. They beat Arizona, who seem to forget what a football looks like when they play on the east coast. They beat the New Orlean Saints, who are also a horrible road team and are also over-rated.The Redskins are solid, probably top-5. They are not the best team in the league.
using your logic, take a look at the giant's first 4 opponents... besides the skins, the other 3 teams have a grand total of 1 win this season... beating the cowboys and eagles away in back to back weeks is the single most impressive feat accomplished by any team this season... add the giants, cards and saints and you have one of the more difficult 5 game stretches thus far this season... i agree the saints are overrated, but calling philly overrated is simply foolish...i don't believe the skins are the best team in the league either, but your logic/reasoning is severely flawed
 

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