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But he just isn't the dominant force he once was.
This is true. His run before 30 years old was sick. He won't ever be that scary again......Unless he is in the final 3 pairings in any tourney for the next 10 years...then he is that scary...ask the guys playing behind him this past week if that roar from Tigers gallery @ 16 & 18 didn't flat out destroy them...did you see the body language or the facial expressions on either one of them? Not to mention the 10 over score Tiger had playing with him that day...although I think the popsicle outfit was his real problem.

5 more majors will be tough. Most guys never even get one. I would not bet against him however.
:goodposting: When they heard the HUGE roar from the crowd, you could see it in their eyes.. they knew it, Tiger knew it, everybody watching knew it... it was over.

 
But he just isn't the dominant force he once was.
This is true. His run before 30 years old was sick. He won't ever be that scary again......Unless he is in the final 3 pairings in any tourney for the next 10 years...then he is that scary...ask the guys playing behind him this past week if that roar from Tigers gallery @ 16 & 18 didn't flat out destroy them...did you see the body language or the facial expressions on either one of them? Not to mention the 10 over score Tiger had playing with him that day...although I think the popsicle outfit was his real problem.

5 more majors will be tough. Most guys never even get one. I would not bet against him however.
When they heard the HUGE roar from the crowd, you could see it in their eyes.. they knew it, Tiger knew it, everybody watching knew it... it was over.
I don't put much into how those players reacted though....as neither is a closer. Sabby has threatened at majors, but always faded. I really want to see the same situation with McElroy, Bradley, Day, etc in those spots....younger guys who grew up watching Tiger intimidate but have never faced a Tiger charge directly in a major.

 
But he just isn't the dominant force he once was.
This is true. His run before 30 years old was sick. He won't ever be that scary again......Unless he is in the final 3 pairings in any tourney for the next 10 years...then he is that scary...ask the guys playing behind him this past week if that roar from Tigers gallery @ 16 & 18 didn't flat out destroy them...did you see the body language or the facial expressions on either one of them? Not to mention the 10 over score Tiger had playing with him that day...although I think the popsicle outfit was his real problem.

5 more majors will be tough. Most guys never even get one. I would not bet against him however.
When they heard the HUGE roar from the crowd, you could see it in their eyes.. they knew it, Tiger knew it, everybody watching knew it... it was over.
I don't put much into how those players reacted though....as neither is a closer. Sabby has threatened at majors, but always faded. I really want to see the same situation with McElroy, Bradley, Day, etc in those spots....younger guys who grew up watching Tiger intimidate but have never faced a Tiger charge directly in a major.
You mean like Fowler??
 
But he just isn't the dominant force he once was.
This is true. His run before 30 years old was sick. He won't ever be that scary again......Unless he is in the final 3 pairings in any tourney for the next 10 years...then he is that scary...ask the guys playing behind him this past week if that roar from Tigers gallery @ 16 & 18 didn't flat out destroy them...did you see the body language or the facial expressions on either one of them? Not to mention the 10 over score Tiger had playing with him that day...although I think the popsicle outfit was his real problem.

5 more majors will be tough. Most guys never even get one. I would not bet against him however.
When they heard the HUGE roar from the crowd, you could see it in their eyes.. they knew it, Tiger knew it, everybody watching knew it... it was over.
I don't put much into how those players reacted though....as neither is a closer. Sabby has threatened at majors, but always faded. I really want to see the same situation with McElroy, Bradley, Day, etc in those spots....younger guys who grew up watching Tiger intimidate but have never faced a Tiger charge directly in a major.
You mean like Fowler??
He faded no doubt....and even though he's ranked high, IMO he's not on that level yet....less accomplished and/or experienced on the world stage than the guys I listed. Nor is he the Alpha Male personality the others are. I think they would be the ultimate guage.
 
It'll be interesting to see just how big that shot at 16 turns out to be. That's what the 'old' Tiger did when he needed it and confidence is a funny thing.

What made him different in the first place is he absolutely 100% believed he was never going to lose when he got his nose in front. If that confidence comes back he could be a force again IMO -- not Tiger c. 2001 good, but he doesn't have to be that good to win a lot.

 
This is true. His run before 30 years old was sick. He won't ever be that scary again...
You don't know that. Unlikely? That's the debate. But you don't know that. And it wasn't just before 30. He played some of the best golf ever played in 2007-2008, right up to the surgery. He's done this before. Three times. This time it's just taking a little longer for the adjustments to groove. There's really no reason, from a handicapping standpoint, to think he won't dominate again. 36 is older, but a lot of golfers are at their peaks in their mid to late 30s. Vijay won nine times at 41.
 
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'Apple Jack said:
This is true. His run before 30 years old was sick. He won't ever be that scary again...
You don't know that. Unlikely? That's the debate. But you don't know that. And it wasn't just before 30. He played some of the best golf ever played in 2007-2008, right up to the surgery. He's done this before. Three times. This time it's just taking a little longer for the adjustments to groove. There's really no reason, from a handicapping standpoint, to think he won't dominate again. 36 is older, but a lot of golfers are at their peaks in their mid to late 30s. Vijay won nine times at 41.
Can he be the most dominant person in the PGA again...absolutely. Do I think he will be? Yes. Will he ever be the "tiger of old"? NO WAY. The other golfers found out he was indeed human a few years ago. Prior to that, not many ever thought they had a chance of beating the guy that never lost. That form of his dominance is gone.I want him to break Jack's record. By a few actually. I love Tiger & what he does for golf. He can be #1 again even into his mid-late forties if he stays healthy. I wouldn't bet on anyone else at the open coming up.
 
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I find the whole Tiger comeback very interesting. It's an interesting study of trust and pressure. Can he trust his new swing/game under pressure, and the amount of pressure varies from tournament to tournament. At Bay Hill he won and there was the look of him trusting his game. When he got to the Masters and the pressure got turned up, it was obvious he still wasn't there trust wise at a major. Two missed cuts made me wonder again how far along he really was. Then this past weekend we see him having to play pretty much error free to come from 4 shots back. I think the pressure was about as much as there can be at any tournament other than a major. With the finish of the last four holes, especially the shot/reaction at 16, he appears to be as close as he has been to the guy we remember before the meltdown. I'm very interested to see how he looks under the US Open pressure.

From this point forward, I see him possibly being dominant again at any course that doesn't require him to hit driver a bunch, like at the Memorial. I don't remember seeing driver in his hands more than one or two times per round. When you can hit your 3 wood 290 consistently, do you ever really have to hit driver more than one or two times per round? I think I read that Olympic is now stretched out to 7000+ yards, but the premium is still on accuracy IMO. If the guy we just saw last weekend shows up confident and hitting greens, he has to be the betting favorite.

One other thing I'm fascinated by is how all of the young guns will react if Tiger indeed finds his game again. Seeing him struggle might make some of the guys feel empowered, but having to play against the guy in person and under pressure (especially if it's a major)? I think a lot of these guys will still find themselves in deep water with a guy who's swam in it like it's a lap pool. :popcorn:

 
Phil is destroying his chances on the 1st 3 holes. Bubba is ...well...being Bubba.

Tiger is playing very well. :coffee:

 
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Again...the top players in the world today who are in their prime don't scare anybody.

If Tiger gets his form back consistently, he has a big run in front of him.

 
Hmm. Let's see, the 3 guys ahead of Woods in the world rankings all butchered up the course. Tiger's playing partners Bubba and Mick were just as bad. Wonder what this thread would be saying if Tiger had played like the other top players in the world.

Yep, definitely finished.

 
Hmm. Let's see, the 3 guys ahead of Woods in the world rankings all butchered up the course. Tiger's playing partners Bubba and Mick were just as bad. Wonder what this thread would be saying if Tiger had played like the other top players in the world. Yep, definitely finished.
You can be sure there would be a whole lot more Favrco :whistle:
 
Why are they all playing with the same groups today?
The first two rounds are always the same pairings with the Friday tee time the opposite wave and tee from Thursday. If your pairing tees off on 10 (or nine in this case) in the morning on Thursday, you'll go off one in the afternoon wave on Friday. All the tours and Majors do this.
 
He looked super yesterday. Just thinking his way around the course and hitting it really well.

If he gets his nose out in front after today I think it'll be lights out. He's playing well and when he's playing well he's a stone cold killer as a front runner.

FWIW... oddsmakers now have him at 5/2 to win.

 
Hmm. Let's see, the 3 guys ahead of Woods in the world rankings all butchered up the course. Tiger's playing partners Bubba and Mick were just as bad. Wonder what this thread would be saying if Tiger had played like the other top players in the world. Yep, definitely finished.
You can be sure there would be a whole lot more Favrco :whistle:
Over/under on the amount of times he would have said "ham and egger"?
 
Why are they all playing with the same groups today?
The first two rounds are always the same pairings with the Friday tee time the opposite wave and tee from Thursday. If your pairing tees off on 10 (or nine in this case) in the morning on Thursday, you'll go off one in the afternoon wave on Friday. All the tours and Majors do this.
Not sure how i've never noticed that before... :loco:
 
Is it too early to lock this up?

Dude is in control of every part of his game. Caught a couple bad breaks and worked through them without a meltdown. There's plenty of golf left on a really tough track with plenty of holes just waiting for a big number. tiger stays away from that and he has his next major.

 
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Tied for the lead in maybe the toughest tournament and golf course of the year. Where's fin at?
Can you let the tournament play out, idiot? You want an apology from Fin every time the guy shares a lead on day two?Here was Fin's orignal post,, three years ago:"He's done. He'll be competitive but he lost the fear factor. Looks like The Gold Bear might be out of the woods." It's three years later. The guy has won two tournaments in those three years. With zero majors. MAybe that changes this weekend. Who knows. But that certainly doesn't make the premise of his thread wrong. I don't see Finless claiming he'd never win again. In fact, he said he'd remain competitive. Sounds like he nailed it to me.
I believe he has won 3 tournaments...
 
'JuniorNB said:
Tied for the lead in maybe the toughest tournament and golf course of the year. Where's fin at?
Can you let the tournament play out, idiot? You want an apology from Fin every time the guy shares a lead on day two?Here was Fin's orignal post,, three years ago:"He's done. He'll be competitive but he lost the fear factor. Looks like The Gold Bear might be out of the woods." It's three years later. The guy has won two tournaments in those three years. With zero majors. MAybe that changes this weekend. Who knows. But that certainly doesn't make the premise of his thread wrong. I don't see Finless claiming he'd never win again. In fact, he said he'd remain competitive. Sounds like he nailed it to me.
I believe he has won 3 tournaments...
Oh. Nevermind then.
 
'JuniorNB said:
Tied for the lead in maybe the toughest tournament and golf course of the year. Where's fin at?
Can you let the tournament play out, idiot? You want an apology from Fin every time the guy shares a lead on day two?Here was Fin's orignal post,, three years ago:"He's done. He'll be competitive but he lost the fear factor. Looks like The Gold Bear might be out of the woods." It's three years later. The guy has won two tournaments in those three years. With zero majors. MAybe that changes this weekend. Who knows. But that certainly doesn't make the premise of his thread wrong. I don't see Finless claiming he'd never win again. In fact, he said he'd remain competitive. Sounds like he nailed it to me.
I believe he has won 3 tournaments...
Oh. Nevermind then.
I wouldnt want the facts to get in the way of this thread either...Guy is #4 in the world...that is more than "competitive"
 
'JuniorNB said:
Tied for the lead in maybe the toughest tournament and golf course of the year. Where's fin at?
Can you let the tournament play out, idiot? You want an apology from Fin every time the guy shares a lead on day two?Here was Fin's orignal post,, three years ago:"He's done. He'll be competitive but he lost the fear factor. Looks like The Gold Bear might be out of the woods." It's three years later. The guy has won two tournaments in those three years. With zero majors. MAybe that changes this weekend. Who knows. But that certainly doesn't make the premise of his thread wrong. I don't see Finless claiming he'd never win again. In fact, he said he'd remain competitive. Sounds like he nailed it to me.
You guys are seriously still on Fin's hook? It's finless... jesus. :lmao:
 
'JuniorNB said:
Tied for the lead in maybe the toughest tournament and golf course of the year. Where's fin at?
Can you let the tournament play out, idiot? You want an apology from Fin every time the guy shares a lead on day two?Here was Fin's orignal post,, three years ago:"He's done. He'll be competitive but he lost the fear factor. Looks like The Gold Bear might be out of the woods." It's three years later. The guy has won two tournaments in those three years. With zero majors. MAybe that changes this weekend. Who knows. But that certainly doesn't make the premise of his thread wrong. I don't see Finless claiming he'd never win again. In fact, he said he'd remain competitive. Sounds like he nailed it to me.
LOolliDIOT!!1He's the 4th best player in the entire world. Lol at "remain competitive."
 
'JuniorNB said:
Tied for the lead in maybe the toughest tournament and golf course of the year. Where's fin at?
Can you let the tournament play out, idiot? You want an apology from Fin every time the guy shares a lead on day two?Here was Fin's orignal post,, three years ago:"He's done. He'll be competitive but he lost the fear factor. Looks like The Gold Bear might be out of the woods." It's three years later. The guy has won two tournaments in those three years. With zero majors. MAybe that changes this weekend. Who knows. But that certainly doesn't make the premise of his thread wrong. I don't see Finless claiming he'd never win again. In fact, he said he'd remain competitive. Sounds like he nailed it to me.
You guys are seriously still on Fin's hook? It's finless... jesus. :lmao:
I can tell fin shtick from fin serious. He was serious about this. Deadly serious.
 
'JuniorNB said:
Tied for the lead in maybe the toughest tournament and golf course of the year.

Where's fin at?
Can you let the tournament play out, idiot? You want an apology from Fin every time the guy shares a lead on day two?Here was Fin's orignal post,, three years ago:

"He's done. He'll be competitive but he lost the fear factor. Looks like The Gold Bear might be out of the woods."

It's three years later. The guy has won two tournaments in those three years. With zero majors. MAybe that changes this weekend. Who knows. But that certainly doesn't make the premise of his thread wrong. I don't see Finless claiming he'd never win again. In fact, he said he'd remain competitive. Sounds like he nailed it to me.
I believe he has won 3 tournaments...
Oh. Nevermind then.
I wouldnt want the facts to get in the way of this thread either...

Guy is #4 in the world...that is more than "competitive"
Thank you.
 
After that 3 putt - he's all ticked off - so what does he do? Pulls driver out - and sure enough puts it in the crowd. So much for the game plan.

ETA - and he birdies the hole on a downhill put

 
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I've noticed this before with Tiger. On certain days, out of the blue, everything, and I mean everything, looks like he's lined up left. Even on putts. He doesn't look as square or comfortable at address on anything. Definitely not like the first two days.

 
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Rough day for Tiger. Did you notice when he was walking off 18 up to the clubhouse a cameraman got in his way and a little too close, and Tiger shoved him out of the way, and I guess maybe hit his hand on the camera or something and was shaking it off as he walked up the stairs. He sure seemed pissed.

 

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