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BillyBarooo
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i just think it's fascinating how far he's fallen. Golf isn't like baseball where you eventually can't catch up to the fastball, or football where your body just breaks down. Guys routinely play well into their 40s and beyond.
The fact is that golf is such a mental game, and his career completely pivoted on the whole "ex wife chasing him down the driveway while he's on Vicadin + Ambien" thing. He was never the same from that moment on. Evidence of how much sports stars rely on their mental game, to be strong in the face of pressure, doubt, and haters. Without that mental edge they are just another physically talented "pro". Better than the vast majority of schlubs out there, but purely average among their peers.
chet
Footballguy
I agree. This thread should include talk of Tiger winning except that he hasn't in forever.I get that this is the easy response, except people DO talk about other golfers in here. And how much better they're doing. Except when they stink. Then we don't mention them.
Jack White
Footballguy
Since a lot people argue "Tiger IS golf," I think it's legit to discuss other golfers here.I get that this is the easy response, except people DO talk about other golfers in here. And how much better they're doing. Except when they stink. Then we don't mention them.
Spieth stunk this week, but a post-Masters hangover is understandable.
ghostguy123
Footballguy
He simply didnt have a swing that would last into his 40s. His swing was incredibly violent on his body.BillyBarooo said:
He has had to adjust and well, he wasnt able to adjust and continue who he was.
Whatever. He didnt accomplish the most, but IMO he is the best golfer ever.
Jules Winnfield
Footballguy
Okay. We'll go with the violent swing and unable to adjust to it. Nothing more.
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ghostguy123
Footballguy
What do you mean?
He isn't good enough to adjust his swing and still dominate. #### happens.
You can look at it as an excuse, I look at it as a reason. He just didn't have the kind of swing to last like the other greats. I thought this was somewhat common knowledge for anyone who knows anything about a golf swing.
John Bender
Footballguy
Otis said:I get that this is the easy response, except people DO talk about other golfers in here. And how much better they're doing. Except when they stink. Then we don't mention them.John Bender said:
I hear ya. Just funny how low the high bar has swung,Otis said:I get that this is the easy response, except people DO talk about other golfers in here. And how much better they're doing. Except when they stink. Then we don't mention them.John Bender said:
"Tiger didn't do worse than four other popular golfers. Omg!"
Otis
Footballguy
lod01
Footballguy
You just answered the question. The best ever would still be able to compete at his age. He's not competitive. He's turned into nothing but a field filler. That's not best ever material.
The General
Footballguy
He's getting closer.
Baloney Sandwich
Footballguy
Tiger finished 10 strokes ahead of Scott Stallings
Rohn Jambo
Footballguy
Finless said he was wrong about Tiger. I asked "Wha?" but he didn't explain.
Short Corner
Footballguy
did he crack the top 70?
Lutherman2112
Footballguy
No Tiger until the first weekend in June; Memorial Tourney at Muirfield.
5 time winner.
5 time winner.
TheIronSheik
SUPER ELITE UPPER TIER
Funny how Tiger makes the cut and yet no one in this thread is talking about Tom Brady and the balls he deflated. 
James Daulton
Footballguy
Dumped by Lindsey for cheating. Shocking.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3076895/Sex-addict-Tiger-Woods-CHEATED-ex-girlfriend-Lindsey-Vonn-real-reason-split.html
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3076895/Sex-addict-Tiger-Woods-CHEATED-ex-girlfriend-Lindsey-Vonn-real-reason-split.html
matuski
Footballguy
Baloney Sandwich
Footballguy
John Bender
Footballguy
Roger Streb has had a horrible four months...why don't you Tiger haters post about him in here?!?!?Funny how Tiger makes the cut and yet no one in this thread is talking about Tom Brady and the balls he deflated.
Apple Jack
Footballguy
no problem believing he nailed a few when she was away. Don't believe that is why they split.
TheAristocrat
Footballguy
Pro Tiger Guy here: Nailing tail on the side sounds like a prowl. Welcome back, GBTigerWoods,
Apple Jack
Footballguy
Amen!
Although, this is a bit out of character, and a little troubling, frankly.
http://bleacherreport.com/articles/2462741-tiger-woods-sends-touching-letter-to-bullied-teen
TobiasFunke
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TheIronSheik
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This makes up for everything? Like forgiving Hitler because he once visited a sick boy at the hospital.
Sadly, if he would have done this his whole career, people probably would have liked him more.
Willie Neslon
Footballguy
TobiasFunke
Footballguy
Solid analogy.This makes up for everything? Like forgiving Hitler because he once visited a sick boy at the hospital.
Sadly, if he would have done this his whole career, people probably would have liked him more.
Baloney Sandwich
Footballguy
Kudos to Tiger for doing that for the kid, bully's really suck.
TheIronSheik
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It wasn't meant to be an exact analogy. It was meant to be humorous and point out your idiotic argument.Solid analogy.This makes up for everything? Like forgiving Hitler because he once visited a sick boy at the hospital.
Sadly, if he would have done this his whole career, people probably would have liked him more.
TobiasFunke
Footballguy
Oh, I thought you were literally saying that Tiger Woods was as bad as Hitler. Thanks for clarifying.It wasn't meant to be an exact analogy. It was meant to be humorous and point out your idiotic argument.Solid analogy.This makes up for everything? Like forgiving Hitler because he once visited a sick boy at the hospital.
Sadly, if he would have done this his whole career, people probably would have liked him more.
TheIronSheik
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TheIronSheik
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No problem. Not sure why you had trouble with that.Oh, I thought you were literally saying that Tiger Woods was as bad as Hitler. Thanks for clarifying.It wasn't meant to be an exact analogy. It was meant to be humorous and point out your idiotic argument.Solid analogy.This makes up for everything? Like forgiving Hitler because he once visited a sick boy at the hospital.
Sadly, if he would have done this his whole career, people probably would have liked him more.
TobiasFunke
Footballguy
In retrospect I suppose it's clear that responding to a story of a philandering golfer writing a touching letter to a teenager who attempted suicide by invoking Hitler's name is totally reasonable and logical.No problem. Not sure why you had trouble with that.
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TheIronSheik
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Again, that's not what I was responding to. I was responding to your ridiculous claim that his actions made up for everything else he's ever done. HTHIn retrospect I suppose it's clear that responding to a story of a philandering golfer writing a touching letter to a teenager who attempted suicide by invoking Hitler's name is totally reasonable and logical.No problem. Not sure why you had trouble with that.
TobiasFunke
Footballguy
I didn't realize I'd made that claim.Again, that's not what I was responding to. I was responding to your ridiculous claim that his actions made up for everything else he's ever done. HTHIn retrospect I suppose it's clear that responding to a story of a philandering golfer writing a touching letter to a teenager who attempted suicide by invoking Hitler's name is totally reasonable and logical.No problem. Not sure why you had trouble with that.
Look, obviously you weren't saying that he's as bad as Hitler. But nobody who invokes Hitler/Nazis in making an argument against someone or something they don't like is ever saying that. That doesn't make their arguments any less preposterous and moronic. We're talking about a guy who cheated on his wife and is often grumpy and aloof. If that makes you hate him, go for it. But if you suggest that those sins are so bad that weighing them against a kind letter is in any way analogous to weighing the killing millions of Jews against a hospital visit ... well, it makes you look ridiculous.
encaitar
Footballguy
Yeah, Tiger had a real problem finding people to cheer for him. Too bad, because he might have been able to parlay such a following into some good endorsements, or even his own clothing line.This makes up for everything? Like forgiving Hitler because he once visited a sick boy at the hospital.
Sadly, if he would have done this his whole career, people probably would have liked him more.
TheAristocrat
Footballguy
Take it to the Hitler thread, you two.
TheIronSheik
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I didn't compare him to Hitler. Not sure what you don't get about that. You replied under a letter he wrote "What a jerk. I can see why people root against him." Thus, you are saying that since he wrote that letter, it's outrageous for anyone to think he's a bad guy. Not sure what else you'd be trying to say there, if not that. Maybe you should clarify your statement.I didn't realize I'd made that claim.Again, that's not what I was responding to. I was responding to your ridiculous claim that his actions made up for everything else he's ever done. HTHIn retrospect I suppose it's clear that responding to a story of a philandering golfer writing a touching letter to a teenager who attempted suicide by invoking Hitler's name is totally reasonable and logical.No problem. Not sure why you had trouble with that.
Look, obviously you weren't saying that he's as bad as Hitler. But nobody who invokes Hitler/Nazis in making an argument against someone or something they don't like is ever saying that. That doesn't make their arguments any less preposterous and moronic. We're talking about a guy who cheated on his wife and is often grumpy and aloof. If that makes you hate him, go for it. But if you suggest that those sins are so bad that weighing them against a kind letter is in any way analogous to weighing the killing millions of Jews against a hospital visit ... well, it makes you look ridiculous.
TobiasFunke
Footballguy
Yes, you did. You created an analogy, which is literally defined as a comparison between two things. Stop trying to weasel out of it. It hasn't worked for any of the thousands of other people who've made terrible Hitler analogies and it won't work for you.I didn't compare him to Hitler. Not sure what you don't get about that. You replied under a letter he wrote "What a jerk. I can see why people root against him." Thus, you are saying that since he wrote that letter, it's outrageous for anyone to think he's a bad guy. Not sure what else you'd be trying to say there, if not that. Maybe you should clarify your statement.I didn't realize I'd made that claim.Again, that's not what I was responding to. I was responding to your ridiculous claim that his actions made up for everything else he's ever done. HTHIn retrospect I suppose it's clear that responding to a story of a philandering golfer writing a touching letter to a teenager who attempted suicide by invoking Hitler's name is totally reasonable and logical.No problem. Not sure why you had trouble with that.
Look, obviously you weren't saying that he's as bad as Hitler. But nobody who invokes Hitler/Nazis in making an argument against someone or something they don't like is ever saying that. That doesn't make their arguments any less preposterous and moronic. We're talking about a guy who cheated on his wife and is often grumpy and aloof. If that makes you hate him, go for it. But if you suggest that those sins are so bad that weighing them against a kind letter is in any way analogous to weighing the killing millions of Jews against a hospital visit ... well, it makes you look ridiculous.
TobiasFunke
Footballguy
I apologize to you and all the other readers of this thread for distracting from the important business usually addressed in here. Especially given the exciting Tiger-related developments this week as he sits out the Wells Fargo Championship.
