timdraft #4: Movie Category Draft (2 Viewers)

[Gizmo]

Can I join. Looks like fun

 

[Andy Dufresne]

A movie draft you say... :scratcheschin:Sure, why not?

Now someone gets to take all the bad movies

Someone has to be the Not Serious Guy.

 

[KarmaPolice]

I think Scott's point was that it would be a little incoherent to have this proposed mix. Or at least that's what I think. I like scenes, films, and portrayals, but think they should be in separate drafts, one for each. For this one, I dig the idea of scenes. Just my 0.01.

I get that. But I like mixing it up. I think if we have 30 of any one of those, the categories may be somewhat weak. That;'s my opinion anyhow. Again, I'll go with the majority.

I'd be in favour of it being an all scene draft if some more time was spent getting suitable categories. As is, I think even the original 15 needs some fixing up; more specifically, replacing the best classroom scene with something that makes more sense.

I think both have good points here. Sure the judging might take longer than the drafts, but I think the timdrafts stay on task in large part because they are a tad more serious. Once we start getting 30 categories of fart scenes and dildos it's harder to keep people going. I also think there is good balance here in the categories. However, if the majority do want to try all scenes, I agree with TK in that we should spend a little time tightening up the categories.

I think the hardest thing will be having only 1 movie per series draft - for example, there are a lot of great space movies that have good fight scenes in them that can only be in one or the other.

 

[timschochet]

Can I join. Looks like fun

Sorry but we are full at 25.

 

[Dr. Octopus]

I'd rather keep it the way it was originally set up, but wouldn't be upset if we went with all scenes.

 

[Yankee23Fan]

A movie draft you say... :scratcheschin:Sure, why not?

Now someone gets to take all the bad movies

Someone has to be the Not Serious Guy.

Perfect. We need to PM some lists.

 

[krista4]

I'd rather keep it the way it was originally set up, but wouldn't be upset if we went with all scenes.

Also I don't like the one movie per series rule.ETA: Actually I don't even know what that rule means, which tells me I don't like it.

 

[BobbyLayne]

Yeah I'm not clear on the rules either. Thankfully I have a serious partner so I'm confident Norwood will fill me in on a need to know basis.

 

[joffer]

I'd rather keep it the way it was originally set up, but wouldn't be upset if we went with all scenes.

Also I don't like the one movie per series rule.ETA: Actually I don't even know what that rule means, which tells me I don't like it.

 

[timschochet]

Ok. Regarding the series rule- lets say somebody takes a James Bond flick as their spy film. No other Bond film can be taken. Or scene from a Bond film. Same goes for Star Wars and Star Trek. Once these are chosen the entire franchise is gone. Choose something else.

 

[timschochet]

And sorry Norwood, the categories stay as listed in the OP.

 

[Nick Vermeil]

Ok. Regarding the series rule- lets say somebody takes a James Bond flick as their spy film. No other Bond film can be taken. Or scene from a Bond film. Same goes for Star Wars and Star Trek. Once these are chosen the entire franchise is gone. Choose something else.

Yikes.

 

[timschochet]

Ok. Regarding the series rule- lets say somebody takes a James Bond flick as their spy film. No other Bond film can be taken. Or scene from a Bond film. Same goes for Star Wars and Star Trek. Once these are chosen the entire franchise is gone. Choose something else.

Yikes.

Everybody knows these movies and they've been discussed and compared endlessly. We're trying to go deeper here.

 

[Dr. Octopus]

4. best performance by child actor

What's the cutoff for "child" or is that up to the judge?

 

[KarmaPolice]

Ok. Regarding the series rule- lets say somebody takes a James Bond flick as their spy film. No other Bond film can be taken. Or scene from a Bond film. Same goes for Star Wars and Star Trek. Once these are chosen the entire franchise is gone. Choose something else.

Yikes.

Tough, but on the flipside it would be boring having the same 3 franchises dominate a category or two. Space, spies, and superhero category are more interesting.

 

[timschochet]

4. best performance by child actor

What's the cutoff for "child" or is that up to the judge?

Hmm. Let's leave it up to the judge. I don't want obvious teenagers, but sometimes 14 and 15 year olds played younger roles, and that should be OK.

 

[Nick Vermeil]

Ok. Regarding the series rule- lets say somebody takes a James Bond flick as their spy film. No other Bond film can be taken. Or scene from a Bond film. Same goes for Star Wars and Star Trek. Once these are chosen the entire franchise is gone. Choose something else.

Yikes.

Tough, but on the flipside it would be boring having the same 3 franchises dominate a category or two. Space, spies, and superhero category are more interesting.

Yeah, I agree. It's going to put a lot of pressure on a few categories. Most of them won't be affected though.

 

[BobbyLayne]

Ok. Regarding the series rule- lets say somebody takes a James Bond flick as their spy film. No other Bond film can be taken. Or scene from a Bond film. Same goes for Star Wars and Star Trek. Once these are chosen the entire franchise is gone. Choose something else.

You cannot be serious.

 

[JZilla]

4. best performance by child actor

What's the cutoff for "child" or is that up to the judge?

Hmm. Let's leave it up to the judge. I don't want obvious teenagers, but sometimes 14 and 15 year olds played younger roles, and that should be OK.

Have you figured out the judges yet?I asked for rock and roll movies and I could probably do the child actor one as well, that sounds fun. I've always had a bug up my ### about bad child actors screwing up other wise great presentations.There are good child actors out there but you wouldn't know it watching a show like The Americans. Game of Thrones found a few, granted they're all English.

 

[BobbyLayne]

I'd rather keep it the way it was originally set up, but wouldn't be upset if we went with all scenes.

Also I don't like the one movie per series rule.ETA: Actually I don't even know what that rule means, which tells me I don't like it.

Doesn't seem very well thought out, does it?

 

[Andy Dufresne]

Let's go! I've got my monologue pick locked in.

 

[joffer]

I'd rather keep it the way it was originally set up, but wouldn't be upset if we went with all scenes.

Also I don't like the one movie per series rule.ETA: Actually I don't even know what that rule means, which tells me I don't like it.

Doesn't seem very well thought out, does it?

its awful, but i'll live

 

[BobbyLayne]

NEW YORK MOVIES

I'd like to know if TU if he is interested in this one. He might be better qualified in that he's a bigger fan of a certain clarinetist Knicks fan, and I'm sure that guy is going to have several draft picks for this one.

I can pick another category to judge.

 

[timschochet]

I will post judges in the OP. it's first come first served as always.

 

[Nick Vermeil]

Ok. Regarding the series rule- lets say somebody takes a James Bond flick as their spy film. No other Bond film can be taken. Or scene from a Bond film. Same goes for Star Wars and Star Trek. Once these are chosen the entire franchise is gone. Choose something else.

You cannot be serious.

Upon further thought, I'm not digging this one movie per series rule. It's like saying the NFL can only have one player from each college. I would be down for a rule that once a movie is selected it can't be selected in another category but eliminating whole series could be tough.Obviously whatever the rule is I'll abide.

 

[BobbyLayne]

I will post judges in the OP. it's first come first served as always.

I'll take New York and best portrayal of a real/historical person.However, I have PMed Tremendous Upside and will yield the former to him if he wants it. He's lived here all his life and is well versed, I think he's the perfect judge for it. If he declines I would like to keep it.

 

[KarmaPolice]

I'd rather keep it the way it was originally set up, but wouldn't be upset if we went with all scenes.

Also I don't like the one movie per series rule.ETA: Actually I don't even know what that rule means, which tells me I don't like it.

Doesn't seem very well thought out, does it?

It is, you just don't agree. Maybe a compromise of 2 per series or something, but somebody needs to volunteer to track it. OR think of a couple different categories that won't be dominated by a couple series. I think the draft will suffer if 1/2 the space picks are from star wars and star trek and the super heroes could turn out the same way. We are just trying to get drafters out of their comfort zone a little.

 

[Andy Dufresne]

I didn't like the rule at first, but now I do.

I agree that it'll force us to not make the same movie picks we usually see in these silly little timewasters.

 

[KarmaPolice]

Draft order?

 

[timschochet]

Ok. Regarding the series rule- lets say somebody takes a James Bond flick as their spy film. No other Bond film can be taken. Or scene from a Bond film. Same goes for Star Wars and Star Trek. Once these are chosen the entire franchise is gone. Choose something else.

You cannot be serious.

Upon further thought, I'm not digging this one movie per series rule. It's like saying the NFL can only have one player from each college. I would be down for a rule that once a movie is selected it can't be selected in another category but eliminating whole series could be tough.Obviously whatever the rule is I'll abide.

It depends on what the purpose of the draft is. If the purpose is to come up with a list of the 25 greatest outer space movies of all time, then youre correct that it's stupid to only allow one Star Wars film, for example. But such lists are out there already. And what's the point of rehashing them? My purpose. Instead. Is to challenge each drafter to come up with alternative outer space films- some of them excellent movies which don't always show up on the greatest lists. For me, that's a much more interesting exercise.

 

[timschochet]

Draft order?

In a few hours.

 

[BobbyLayne]

I'm open to wherever you guys end up on categories.

I'm with the pacifist. Just make decisions and I'll abide.

 

[Dr. Octopus]

Ok. Regarding the series rule- lets say somebody takes a James Bond flick as their spy film. No other Bond film can be taken. Or scene from a Bond film. Same goes for Star Wars and Star Trek. Once these are chosen the entire franchise is gone. Choose something else.

You cannot be serious.

Upon further thought, I'm not digging this one movie per series rule. It's like saying the NFL can only have one player from each college. I would be down for a rule that once a movie is selected it can't be selected in another category but eliminating whole series could be tough.Obviously whatever the rule is I'll abide.

It depends on what the purpose of the draft is. If the purpose is to come up with a list of the 25 greatest outer space movies of all time, then youre correct that it's stupid to only allow one Star Wars film, for example. But such lists are out there already. And what's the point of rehashing them? My purpose. Instead. Is to challenge each drafter to come up with alternative outer space films- some of them excellent movies which don't always show up on the greatest lists. For me, that's a much more interesting exercise.

Just to be clear, if some one drafts Star Wars (since it was already mentioned), are all scenes from that movie series and/or performances from that series off limits as well?ETA: I think this has already been answered as "yes".

 

[KarmaPolice]

Draft order?

In a few hours.

TIA for getting me at the top of the draft order for once.

 

[KarmaPolice]

Ok. Regarding the series rule- lets say somebody takes a James Bond flick as their spy film. No other Bond film can be taken. Or scene from a Bond film. Same goes for Star Wars and Star Trek. Once these are chosen the entire franchise is gone. Choose something else.

You cannot be serious.

Upon further thought, I'm not digging this one movie per series rule. It's like saying the NFL can only have one player from each college. I would be down for a rule that once a movie is selected it can't be selected in another category but eliminating whole series could be tough.Obviously whatever the rule is I'll abide.

It depends on what the purpose of the draft is. If the purpose is to come up with a list of the 25 greatest outer space movies of all time, then youre correct that it's stupid to only allow one Star Wars film, for example. But such lists are out there already. And what's the point of rehashing them? My purpose. Instead. Is to challenge each drafter to come up with alternative outer space films- some of them excellent movies which don't always show up on the greatest lists. For me, that's a much more interesting exercise.

Just to be clear, if some one drafts Star Wars (since it was already mentioned), are all scenes from that movie series and/or performances from that series off limits as well?ETA: I think this has already been answered as "yes".

That is my understanding.

 

[JZilla]

Ok. Regarding the series rule- lets say somebody takes a James Bond flick as their spy film. No other Bond film can be taken. Or scene from a Bond film. Same goes for Star Wars and Star Trek. Once these are chosen the entire franchise is gone. Choose something else.

You cannot be serious.

Upon further thought, I'm not digging this one movie per series rule. It's like saying the NFL can only have one player from each college. I would be down for a rule that once a movie is selected it can't be selected in another category but eliminating whole series could be tough.Obviously whatever the rule is I'll abide.

It depends on what the purpose of the draft is. If the purpose is to come up with a list of the 25 greatest outer space movies of all time, then youre correct that it's stupid to only allow one Star Wars film, for example. But such lists are out there already. And what's the point of rehashing them? My purpose. Instead. Is to challenge each drafter to come up with alternative outer space films- some of them excellent movies which don't always show up on the greatest lists. For me, that's a much more interesting exercise.

Just to be clear, if some one drafts Star Wars (since it was already mentioned), are all scenes from that movie series and/or performances from that series off limits as well?ETA: I think this has already been answered as "yes".

That is my understanding.

There are probably better ways to do this but why waste keystrokes

 

[Aerial Assault]

Judging superheroes and dream sequences, tim. Just mentioning that again so you don't have to go back and find the other places where I mentioned it.

 

[joffer]

something tells me romantic gesture will be my last pick

 

[Yankee23Fan]

Ok. Regarding the series rule- lets say somebody takes a James Bond flick as their spy film. No other Bond film can be taken. Or scene from a Bond film. Same goes for Star Wars and Star Trek. Once these are chosen the entire franchise is gone. Choose something else.

Wait, what? How insane is that?! There are 11 Star Trek Movies. One scene takes them all out? There are over 20 Bond movies. Are you serious? And there are 4.7 Star Wars movies. You insane?That's a bit harsh. What's the problem with using different movies within a whole story like that? While Star Wars was a continued story, for the most part Star Trek and James Bond are all really stand alone films in and of themselves.

 

[Yankee23Fan]

I didn't like the rule at first, but now I do. I agree that it'll force us to not make the same movie picks we usually see in these silly little timewasters.

Ok, well, then I retract my previous statements.Draftbuddy... you know exactly what has to be our first round pick then, right? If you don't get it, I quit.

 

[timschochet]

OK, is the order. (This will be posted in the OP shortly):

1. rikishiboy

2. Mister CIA

3. Andy Dufresne

4. Time Kibitzer

5. Doug B

6. Val Rannous

7. Aerial Assault

8. hooter311

9. higgins

10. Karma Police

11. timschochet

12. Tish

13. BobbyLayne

14. Nick Vermeil

15. Tiannamen Tank

16. Joffer

17. krista4

18. Mrs. Rannous

19. jwb

20. Dr. Octopus

21. John Madden's Lunchbox

22. Kumerica

23. Tremendous Upside

24. AcerFC

25. Usual21

 

[Yankee23Fan]

OK, is the order. (This will be posted in the OP shortly):1. rikishiboy2. Mister CIA3. Andy Dufresne4. Time Kibitzer5. Doug B6. Val Rannous7. Aerial Assault8. hooter3119. higgins10. Karma Police11. timschochet12. Tish13. BobbyLayne14. Nick Vermeil15. Tiannamen Tank16. Joffer17. krista418. Mrs. Rannous19. jwb20. Dr. Octopus21. John Madden's Lunchbox22. Kumerica23. Tremendous Upside24. AcerFC25. Usual21

Nice. Andy it's set up perfectly for us. Don't let me down in the first round. This is our moment to shine.

 

[KarmaPolice]

something tells me romantic gesture will be my last pick

I think this is one of the more interesting ones. Wide array of possibilities - anything from opening a door for somebody to laying down your life for them. Trying to talk Mrs KP into judging it with me.

 

[BobbyLayne]

Ok. Regarding the series rule- lets say somebody takes a James Bond flick as their spy film. No other Bond film can be taken. Or scene from a Bond film. Same goes for Star Wars and Star Trek. Once these are chosen the entire franchise is gone. Choose something else.

Wait, what? How insane is that?! There are 11 Star Trek Movies. One scene takes them all out? There are over 20 Bond movies. Are you serious? And there are 4.7 Star Wars movies. You insane?That's a bit harsh. What's the problem with using different movies within a whole story like that? While Star Wars was a continued story, for the most part Star Trek and James Bond are all really stand alone films in and of themselves.

As far as I can tell, the rationale is this is intended as a potpourri draft. The objective is not GoaT selections, but taking a deeper dive into areas that would be largely ignored in more traditional drafts.

 

[BobbyLayne]

13. BobbyLayne

Did you force Norwood out?

 

[Yankee23Fan]

Ok. Regarding the series rule- lets say somebody takes a James Bond flick as their spy film. No other Bond film can be taken. Or scene from a Bond film. Same goes for Star Wars and Star Trek. Once these are chosen the entire franchise is gone. Choose something else.

Wait, what? How insane is that?! There are 11 Star Trek Movies. One scene takes them all out? There are over 20 Bond movies. Are you serious? And there are 4.7 Star Wars movies. You insane?That's a bit harsh. What's the problem with using different movies within a whole story like that? While Star Wars was a continued story, for the most part Star Trek and James Bond are all really stand alone films in and of themselves.

As far as I can tell, the rationale is this is intended as a potpourri draft. The objective is not GoaT selections, but taking a deeper dive into areas that would be largely ignored in more traditional drafts.

No I got it. Andy is the boss and he likes it so we are all good.

 

[KarmaPolice]

OK, is the order. (This will be posted in the OP shortly):1. rikishiboy2. Mister CIA3. Andy Dufresne4. Time Kibitzer5. Doug B6. Val Rannous7. Aerial Assault8. hooter3119. higgins10. Karma Police11. timschochet12. Tish13. BobbyLayne14. Nick Vermeil15. Tiannamen Tank16. Joffer17. krista418. Mrs. Rannous19. jwb20. Dr. Octopus21. John Madden's Lunchbox22. Kumerica23. Tremendous Upside24. AcerFC25. Usual21

Dammit- have a feeling the 2 I want in the first might not be there at the #10.

 

[Andy Dufresne]

Draftbuddy... you know exactly what has to be our first round pick then, right? If you don't get it, I quit.

Of course I do. I won't let you down.

 

[Yankee23Fan]

Draftbuddy... you know exactly what has to be our first round pick then, right? If you don't get it, I quit.

Of course I do. I won't let you down.

See, this is why we are so good together.

 

[timschochet]

I have posted all judges that we have so far in the OP. If I missed you somehow, please let me know. There are still plenty of categories open to judge. As always, I will judge any categories left over at the end of the draft.