timdraft #4: Movie Category Draft (1 Viewer)

[BobbyLayne]

I object to being ranked so low when we were leading the draft.

 

[Andy Dufresne]

Another pick in the teens. I'll take it, but I'm the Ron Dayne of this draft.

 

[timschochet]

Total Rankings after 11 Categories

Nick Vermiel 187

Tremendous Upside 185

Val Rannous 183

BobbyLayne 176

Krista4 169

Aerial Assault 165

AcerFC 163

Karma Police 161

Tiannamen Tank 160

timschochet 158

Andy Dufresne 156

DougB 155

Mrs. Rannous 146

Time Kibitzer 142

John Madden's Lunchbox 139

Mister CIA 132

jwb 127

rikishiboy 123

tish155 118

Usual21 118

higgins 115

Dr. Octopus 114

hooter311 112

Kumerica 109

Joffer 105

 

[simey]

Another pick in the teens. I'll take it, but I'm the Ron Dayne of this draft.

Hey, he had his moments.

 

[AcerFC]

Is it me, or is this one of the closer drafts in memory.

 

[Andy Dufresne]

Is it me, or is this one of the closer drafts in memory.

YEAH! AND IF YOU HADN'T SCREWED ME ON THE CLASSROOM SCENE CATEGORY I'D BE RIGHT THERE WITH THE SCORING.

Edit: Ooops. Sorry. Freudian slip.

 

[simey]

Is it me, or is this one of the closer drafts in memory.

It's you. The last music draft (tim3) was very close.

 

[timschochet]

Is it me, or is this one of the closer drafts in memory.

Yeah but we're only 11 categories out of 30. Usually by about 2/3, there's a separation.

It is a tough crowd though. I'll be happy to end up in the top 10- seems doubtful.

 

[meanjoegreen]

Is it me, or is this one of the closer drafts in memory.

It's you. The last music draft (tim3) was very close.

you, Yo Mama, and BobbyLayne were neck and neck throughout, and then Val made a push making it a four way race until the very end. Doug B and Mrs Rannous weren't far behind. Here were the final top scorers, and it wasn't decided until the final ranking:

Simey 466

Val Rannous 453

BobbyLayne 449

Yo Mama 449

 

[AcerFC]

Is it me, or is this one of the closer drafts in memory.

YEAH! AND IF YOU HADN'T SCREWED ME ON THE CLASSROOM SCENE CATEGORY I'D BE RIGHT THERE WITH THE SCORING.

Edit: Ooops. Sorry. Freudian slip.

 

[Andy Dufresne]

@AcerFC

Spoiler

I am, of course, completely joking.

 

[AcerFC]

@AcerFC

Spoiler

I am, of course, completely joking.

 

[Dr. Octopus]

25 points – The Brave Little Toaster.

24 points – The Child Catcher from Chitty Chitty Bang Bang.

23 points – Tunnel scene from Willy Wonka.

22 points – Donkey transformation from Pinocchio.

21 points – The Haunted Forest from Snow White.

20 points – Flying monkeys from The Wizard of Oz.

19 points – Bambi’s Mom gets shot.

18 points – The Night on Bald Mountain from Fantasia.

17 points – The Angel of Death from The Prince of Egypt.

16 points – The Skeleton army from Jason and the Argonauts.

15 points – Old Yeller gets rabies.

14 points – Watership Down.

13 points – Large Marge from Peewee’s Big Adventure.

12 points – The Forest of No Return from Babes in Toyland.

11 points – The giant squid from 20,000 Leagues Under the Sea.

10 points –The Gmork from The Neverending Story.

9 points – The Great Owl from The Secret of Nimh.

8 points – Sloth from The Goonies.

7 points – Poltergeist.

6 points – Jurassic Park.

5 points – The Watcher in the Woods.

4 points – E.T. dies.

3 points – Gremlins.

2 points – Godzilla dies.

1 point – Kentucky Fried Movie.

I guess the issue is what is a "kid". I certainly beleive I saw some of these movies that were nicked on that basis (Godzilla, Poltergeist, Gremlins and a few others) as a "kid" - but I can see the logic that they weren't truly kid movies.

I took Old Yeller which scored reasonably well and for me the "fear" was in the fact that my beloved dog could get rabies, go crazy and need to be put down, kind of in the way Jaws scared people from going into the ocean - but understand it wasn't a "jump out of your seat" scary moment.

Good job overall. Frankly I never even heard of The Brave Little Toaster but your analysis had logic to it at least.

 

[jwb]

Scenes that Scared you as a Child, Part I

2 points – Godzilla dies. Again, not a movie intended for kids, but here at least you can see if a kid is watching he’d be concerned for the big rubber guy, although to be truthful I’d say more sad than scared.

Yea, I know it's not technically a kid's movie, but I will say that most kids probably saw another Godzilla movie before they saw this one (and those definitely were more kid-friendly movies). So to anyone growing up in the 60's, 70's or 80's, anything Godzilla is definitely kid-centric. In the 70's a Godzilla movie played at least once a month on Saturdays (about noon / 1pm, after the cartoons). It was prettymuch required viewing. As was "monster week".

Not complaining about my score, mind you. A two is a two is a two. And yes, sad more than fear is probably the right emotion (I would say "disturbed" is the best - kind of a combination of the two.)

 

[timschochet]

OK, time for movie parents. Like most categories, this was extremely tough, and some people may be disappointed. I did my best.

 

[timschochet]

1 pt- Mia Farrow in Rosemary's Baby Easy choice for the 1 pointer. Not exactly the loving mom, is she?

2 pts- Chevy Chase in National Lampoon's Vacation Never liked Chevy Chase, and in this film he's basically a cartoon character, with very little empathy.

3 pts- Sally Field in Forrest Gump- One of the most overrated movies of all time, IMO. And Sally Field barely shows up in this role.

4 pts- Jimmy Stewart in It's A Wonderful Life Great movie, but not much of it is spent watching Jimmy as a dad.

5 pts- Liam Neeson in Taken One of a few "action" parent roles. This one is the least meaningful, in terms of Neeson's role as a dad is really only a vehicle for us to believe he is emotionally involved in killing people.

 

[Kumerica]

1 pt- Mia Farrow in Rosemary's Baby Easy choice for the 1 pointer. Not exactly the loving mom, is she?

Ridiculous. She gives her all to protect that evil little spawn!

 

[timschochet]

6 pts- Anthony Hopkins in Legends of the Fall Pretty dull movie, in which Pitt and Quinn are the main characters, and Hopkins as the old colonel doesn't have too much to do.

7 pts- Julie Andrews in The Sound of Music She is a great governess, and this is a wonderful film and deserves a high ranking. Too bad she's not a parent.

8 pts- Spencer Tracy in Father of the Bride One of two roles for Tracy here. He is at his comic best in this one, but it's missing the emotional connection of most of the picks ranked above it.

9 pts- The Man From the Road- This one was really hard for me to place. In many ways similar to Bicycle Thieves and Life Is Beautiful, in that the father character is doing his best to protect his son in a lost world- but this movie was a too stark for me and I didn't feel the emotional impact.

10 pts- Darren McGavern in A Christmas Story Who doesn't love this film? His interactions are more with his wife than with the kids, however.

 

[Andy Dufresne]

10 pts- Darren McGavern in A Christmas Story Who doesn't love this film? His interactions are more with his wife than with the kids, however.

You're a sad, strange, little man.

 

[timschochet]

11 points- Diane Keaton in Baby Boom Hugely underrated, excellent 80s movie about a woman coping with parenthood and working. Probably should be higher on the list, but it gets really tough from here.

12 points- Robin Williams in Mrs. Doubtfire Never saw this film before the draft. A nice light comedy from the 90s. Williams makes the role work. And there is an emotional tug.

13 points- Sarah Connor from Terminator 2 Doesn't have the emotional connection of the picks above it (and a few below it) but Sarah is the most kick ### parent you will ever find.

14 points- Jane Darwell in The Grapes of Wrath One of two Hollywood "classic parents" taken (the other is Irene Dunne). But in comparison I think Darwell's Ma Joad is a little more dated. Still a splendid performance.

15 points- Sandra Bullock in The Blind Side Wonderful performance. Like Julie Andrews, not really the parent of the main character, but enough of a mom that she makes it work.

 

[timschochet]

16 pts- Roberto Benigni in Life is Beautiful Fanciful. You have to ignore realism and be willing to believe in romantic fantasy for this film to work, particularly the second half in which the parenting takes place. A marvel of a film.

17 pts- Paul Giamatti in Win Win What a fantastic movie! Thanks to this draft, I was exposed to it. Giamatti is hardly the perfect parent or grandparent. And yet there is that emotional connection which I mentioned was lacking in some of the other selections. Great film.

18 pts- Will Smith in The Pursuit of Happiness Man I loved this movie, and loved this character. This is the sort of dad that I want to be.

19 pts- Antonio Ricci in Bicycle Thieves One of the great cinematic pleasures of all time. The character of Ricci is everyman, in his yearning to be a responsible father and husband.

20 pts- Irene Dunne in I Remember Mama Hollywood's classic presentation of the archetype- imitated in movies and TV for years, but never quite duplicated.

 

[Andy Dufresne]

18 pts- Will Smith in The Pursuit of Happiness Man I loved this movie, and loved this character. This is the sort of dad that I want to be.

I've seen Chris Gardner speak in person. He's awesome.

 

[Dr. Octopus]

17 pts- Paul Giamatti in Win Win What a fantastic movie! Thanks to this draft, I was exposed to it. Giamatti is hardly the perfect parent or grandparent. And yet there is that emotional connection which I mentioned was lacking in some of the other selections. Great film.

Am I thinking of a different movie?

 

[timschochet]

21 pts- Marlin from Finding Nemo I love Albert Brooks. This film is strongly reassuring to young children that watch it: dad is not perfect, dad screws up on occasion- but dad will find you.

22 pts- Steve Martin from Parenthood He tries so hard and fails, and tries so hard and fails again. But Martin puts so much into this role and there's no parent that watches this movie that doesn't feel the joy he feels when his son catches the fly ball. Brilliant film.

23 pts- Lawrence Fishburne in Boys N The Hood Probably the strongest portrayal of a father I have ever seen on screen. An incredibly emotional performance.

24 pts- Spencer Tracy in Guess Who's Coming to Dinner My pick. Tracy again displays both great comedy and drama, and I would rank him high for the first 90% of this film in any regard. But it's the last part of the movie, in which he gives his speech that justifies this ranking here. That speech is quite possibly the most moving scene in all of film for me- even now, having watched it dozens of times, I can't help but tear up.

25 pts- Atticus Finch from To Kill A Mockingbird Really no question that this would get the top spot.

 

[timschochet]

17 pts- Paul Giamatti in Win Win What a fantastic movie! Thanks to this draft, I was exposed to it. Giamatti is hardly the perfect parent or grandparent. And yet there is that emotional connection which I mentioned was lacking in some of the other selections. Great film.

Am I thinking of a different movie?

Kyle is his grandson in the film, no?

 

[timschochet]

Movie Parent

25 Atticus Finch in To Kill a Mockingbird

24 Spencer Tracy in Guess Who's Coming to Dinner

23 Lawrence Fishburne in Boys N the Hood

22 Steve Martin in Parenthood

21 Marlin in Finding Nemo

20 Irene Dunne in I Remember Mama

19 Antonio Ricci in Bicycle Thieves

18 Will Smith in The Pursuit of Happiness

17 Paul Giamatti in Win Win

16 Roberto Benigni in Life is Beautiful

15 Sandra Bullock in The Blind Side

14 Jane Darwell in The Grapes of Wrath

13 Sarah Connor- Terminator 2

12 Robin Williams- Mrs Doubtfire

11 Diane Keaton- Baby Boom

10 Darren McGavern- A Christmas Story

9 The Man from the Road

8 Spencer Tracy in Father of the Bride

7 Julie Andrews- The Sound of Music

6 Anthony Hopkins in Legends of the Fall

5 Liam Neeson- Taken

4 Jimmy Stewart- It's A Wonderful Life

3 Sally Field- Forrest Gump

2 Chevy Chase- National Lampoon's Vacation

1 Mia Farrow- Rosemary's Baby

 

[Dr. Octopus]

17 pts- Paul Giamatti in Win Win What a fantastic movie! Thanks to this draft, I was exposed to it. Giamatti is hardly the perfect parent or grandparent. And yet there is that emotional connection which I mentioned was lacking in some of the other selections. Great film.

Am I thinking of a different movie?

Kyle is his grandson in the film, no?

No, he's Burt Young's grandson and no relation to Giamatti's character Mike. Mike kind of adopts Kyle, to benefit him as a wrestling coach.

 

[timschochet]

Total Rankings after 12 Categories

Nick Vermiel 212

Val Rannous 197

Tremendous Upside 188

AcerFC 185

Karma Police 184

BobbyLayne 182

timschochet 182

Aerial Assault 180

Krista4 179

Tiannamen Tank 169

Mrs. Rannous 166

Doug B 163

Andy Dufresne 161

Time Kibitzer 159

John Madden's Lunchbox 152

jwb 146

tish155 139

Mister CIA 136

rikishiboy 135

Dr. Octopus 132

hooter311 123

higgins 122

Joffer 121

Usual21 120

Kumerica 110

 

[timschochet]

17 pts- Paul Giamatti in Win Win What a fantastic movie! Thanks to this draft, I was exposed to it. Giamatti is hardly the perfect parent or grandparent. And yet there is that emotional connection which I mentioned was lacking in some of the other selections. Great film.

Am I thinking of a different movie?

Kyle is his grandson in the film, no?

No, he's Burt Young's grandson and no relation to Giamatti's character Mike. Mike kind of adopts Kyle, to benefit him as a wrestling coach.

You're right.Well, probably I should have penalized this film a little more then. But it really was great though. #### it, it stays where it is.

 

[Nick Vermeil]

Total Rankings after 12 Categories

Nick Vermiel 212

Val Rannous 197

Tremendous Upside 188

AcerFC 185

Karma Police 184

BobbyLayne 182

timschochet 182

Aerial Assault 180

Krista4 179

Tiannamen Tank 169

Mrs. Rannous 166

Doug B 163

Andy Dufresne 161

Time Kibitzer 159

John Madden's Lunchbox 152

jwb 146

tish155 139

Mister CIA 136

rikishiboy 135

Dr. Octopus 132

hooter311 123

higgins 122

Joffer 121

Usual21 120

Kumerica 110

 

[meanjoegreen]

23 pts- Lawrence Fishburne in Boys N The Hood Probably the strongest portrayal of a father I have ever seen on screen. An incredibly emotional performance.

If it is probably the strongest portrayal of a father you have ever seen on screen, why didn't it get 25 points? Obviously you must have thought Cary Grant and Spencer Tracy were stronger portrayals.

 

[Val Rannous]

Scenes that Scared you as a Child, Part I

3 points – Gremlins. I guess some parents took kids to see this – bad decision making time, as it’s not really designed for kids. The scene selected has lots of gremlins acting stupid – not scary. A couple more points would have been awarded (even without it being for kids) if the scene with the mother defending her kitchen had been selected, cause the gremlins take it HARD.

1) 'Gremlins' NOT for kids?!?! What planet are you from?

2) I specifically took the kitchen scene. Here is the link. I originally took the scene you were referring to, and immediately switched it to the kitchen scene (which we were allowed to do) in honor of KP who....

3) ...was the original judge and commented on the fact that he was taken out of the theater crying and screaming based on that kitchen scene.

'Gremlins' not supposed to be for kids?!?!? And he deducts points based on NOT choosing the scene that I actually chose??!?!

I have no problem with Val or anyone else for judging me poorly in a subjective song draft, but this was pretty straight forward. Will you at least concede me some more points based on the fact that I DID pick the kitchen scene, and will you go over this selection with the original judge?

Yes, you get more points for choosing the kitchen scene (the clip I saw linked was for the bar scene, I didn't see the switch).

However, I stand by my statement that it is not a kid's movie. It's a horror comedy film, and was one of the films that led to a change in the MPAA rating system (along with Indiana Jones and the Temple of Doom). PG13 exists today because while this film didn't have the sex or language to get an R rating, it was way too graphic for the PG it got. Spielberg himself said so, and requested the change in the ratings system. The kitchen scene in particular is to blame: "The scene in which a gremlin explodes in the microwave was particularly influential to the idea that some films too light to be rated R are still too mature to be rated PG."

Because of the scene change, I'd like to change my rating to the Jurassic Park / Poltergeist range - which are the highest rated films I listed as inappropriate. I'd say legitimately it should fall right above those films, so the new rankings would be:

25 points – The Brave Little Toaster.

24 points – The Child Catcher from Chitty Chitty Bang Bang.

23 points – Tunnel scene from Willy Wonka.

22 points – Donkey transformation from Pinocchio.

21 points – The Haunted Forest from Snow White.

20 points – Flying monkeys from The Wizard of Oz.

19 points – Bambi’s Mom gets shot.

18 points – The Night on Bald Mountain from Fantasia.

17 points – The Angel of Death from The Prince of Egypt.

16 points – The Skeleton army from Jason and the Argonauts.

15 points – Old Yeller gets rabies.

14 points – Watership Down.

13 points – Large Marge from Peewee’s Big Adventure.

12 points – The Forest of No Return from Babes in Toyland.

11 points – The giant squid from 20,000 Leagues Under the Sea.

10 points –The Gmork from The Neverending Story.

9 points – The Great Owl from The Secret of Nimh.

8 points – Sloth from The Goonies.

7 points – Gremlins.

6 points – Poltergeist.

5 points – Jurassic Park.

4 points – The Watcher in the Woods.

3 points – E.T. dies.

points – Godzilla dies.

1 point – Kentucky Fried Movie.

Tim, would you mind making this change?

 

[AcerFC]

Simey pushed for Parenhood.

Simey>

 

[Dr. Octopus]

17 pts- Paul Giamatti in Win Win What a fantastic movie! Thanks to this draft, I was exposed to it. Giamatti is hardly the perfect parent or grandparent. And yet there is that emotional connection which I mentioned was lacking in some of the other selections. Great film.

Am I thinking of a different movie?

Kyle is his grandson in the film, no?

No, he's Burt Young's grandson and no relation to Giamatti's character Mike. Mike kind of adopts Kyle, to benefit him as a wrestling coach.

You're right.

Well, probably I should have penalized this film a little more then. But it really was great though. #### it, it stays where it is.

It is a great movie and Mike is a great character. He's not a great parent at all though - in fact he exploits his role as a court appointed guardian of Burt Young for financial gain (while also violating his role as his attorney to act in his client's best interest) and then only takes in his client's grandson Kyle to benefit him in his side job as high school wrestling coach.

I'm not saying you need to knock the score down - I just found the reasoning odd.

Good job overall - I'm on a mediocrity streak in recent judging which is better than being stuck at the bottom as I was before my recent spate of fortune .

 

[Time Kibitzer]

17 pts- Paul Giamatti in Win Win What a fantastic movie! Thanks to this draft, I was exposed to it. Giamatti is hardly the perfect parent or grandparent. And yet there is that emotional connection which I mentioned was lacking in some of the other selections. Great film.

Am I thinking of a different movie?

Kyle is his grandson in the film, no?

No, he's Burt Young's grandson and no relation to Giamatti's character Mike. Mike kind of adopts Kyle, to benefit him as a wrestling coach.

You're right.

Well, probably I should have penalized this film a little more then. But it really was great though. #### it, it stays where it is.

It is a great movie and Mike is a great character. He's not a great parent at all though - in fact he exploits his role as a court appointed guardian of Burt Young for financial gain (while also violating his role as his attorney to act in his client's best interest) and then only takes in his client's grandson Kyle to benefit him in his side job as high school wrestling coach.

I'm not saying you need to knock the score down - I just found the reasoning odd.

Good job overall - I'm on a mediocrity streak in recent judging which is better than being stuck at the bottom as I was before my recent spate of fortune .

That's what makes the character great, he's quite tremendously flawed, but in the end he ends up going above and beyond doing the right thing, it just takes him a long while to get there.

 

[higgins]

Fair enough, Val -- thanks for the explanation, and thanks for taking the time to do the judging in the first place.

 

[BobbyLayne]

Working on Historical Portrayal, and hope to complete it within the next week. Extremely difficult to rank because there were so many truly great picks.

 

[Mrs. Rannous]

I guess it's time to get romantic. Krista's original criteria emphasized that the overly sweet wouldn't do well, and I'm sticking to that. I don't really go for treacle either. I also feel that some effort could be involved, not just sacrifice. But we were surprisingly close in our rankings.

So get ready to call the FTD Florist.

 

[Mrs. Rannous]

1 pt - Aladdin

Aladdin asks the girl out on a date. Not much risk here.

2 pts - Titanic

Rose and Jack find the prow of the ship and yell, "King of the world, Ma!" Or something. The scene where Rose leaves the lifeboat to find Jack would have done much better.

3 pts - An Officer and a Gentleman

The hero gets dressed up in completely impractical dress whites and carries off the girl. Alert the dry cleaners. Not much risk here, either.

4 pts - When Harry Met Sally

Harry makes a lovely declaration of his feelings for Sally. But there's not much else going on.

5 pts - What Dreams May Come

Finally, some real sacrifice. Robin Williams gives up heaven for hell to be with his love. This ranks so low due to the sappy factor. YOU WERE WARNED.

 

[Mrs. Rannous]

6 pts - Say Anything

The hero does put his feelings out on the line, and plays Peter Gabriel's "Shock the monkey" * for the girl. Not too much risk, but not too cute either.

7 pts - 10 Things I Hate About You

The guy sings "Can't take my eyes off of you" over the stadium sound system to the girl. Gets extra points because he got the band to go along with it. Effort counts.

8 pts - Love, Actually

The man declares his feelings by holding up signs à la Bob Dylan. Not overly cute, and it is well thought out.

9 pts - As Good as it Gets

Melvin does take his pills to "be a better man", but he also gains in the transaction. Sort of a push here.

10 pts - The Notebook

Eeyore writes a romance. Or Marvin the Paranoid Android. Not for the depressed. The man reads about their romance to the lady. Alas, since she has Alzheimer's she doesn't remember it, and he has to do it over and over. Sort of like Groundhog Day without the charm. It does involve sacrifice, but there's no way for it to pay off for one of the characters.

*That may have been Stan.

 

[jwb]

These are good so far, and not just because mine is still unranked.

 

[Mrs. Rannous]

11 pts - Up

Again, this can really only affect one partner. That kind of undercuts the romance for me.

12 pts - In the Mood for Love

The only way the hero can reveal his love is to whisper it into a wall and seal the secret in. Beautifully fimed. There is a payoff for the other party in that their child lives in a respectable household, unsullied by the non-sanctioned romance. But since she really doesn't see the gesture, it loses a few points.

13 pts - Lady and the Tramp

I realise giving up a meatball doesn't seem like much; but for a dog, it's pretty major. It loses a bit for extreme cuteness.

14 pts - Splash

And now we're into some serious risk. Rescuing Madison from the lab where she is going to be disected is dangerous stuff.

15 pts - Shakespeare in Love

The Bard of Avon gives up his love, but memorializes her in his plays. Since those seem to be ever-lasting, this declaration of love carries real weight.

 

[Mrs. Rannous]

These are good so far, and not just because mine is still unranked.

Your pick inspired the best music. That always helps.

 

[Mrs. Rannous]

16 pts - Pretty in Pink

Duckie meets Andie at the prom and has a shot with her. He gives up his true love so she can be with her love. Very gallant.

17 pts - Once

I relied on Krista here. To me, it's people giving up real love for loser love. Beats me, but she liked it. Having an extra judge really helped.

18 pts - City Lights

The Little Tramp struggles to find the money his dream girl needs to have an operation to restore her sight. He could sure use it, but he gives it all to her with no reservation. Very noble and selfless.

19 pts - Amour

An old man gives his ailing wife the release she desires. A wrenching experience.

20 pts - Highlander

A man finds out he is immortal and stays while his lady love grows old and dies. He promises to light a candle for her every year on her birthday. SInce he can't die, that's a long time. But his love and his memories never fade. The scene inspired Brian May of Queen to write an extra

for the movie. It's a personal favorite.

 

[Mrs. Rannous]

21 pts - True Romance

Clarence seeks out his girl's pimp to get him to leave her alone. He ends up killing the guy just to set her free. Pretty radical.

22 pts - Punch-Drunk Love

Barry also risks his life for his woman. What won't these guys do for love?

23 pts - Casablanca

This is also Krista's placement. I don't really like this movie. I do have to admit that Bogie gives up the girl. I just don't get why they can't be together after the war. And why Paul Henreid is such a wuss. Gains points for iconc status of movie scene.

24 pts - Return of the King

25 pts - Wings of Desire

The sacrifices are the same here. Both characters give up an immortal life to be with the ones they love. That's a fairly big deal, and it's done without sappiness (which is apparantly the kiss of death).

 

[Mrs. Rannous]

1 pt - Aladdin

2 pts - Titanic

3 pts - An Officer and a Gentleman

4 pts - When Harry Met Sally

5 pts - What Dreams May Come

6 pts - Say Anything

7 pts - 10 Things I hate About You

8 pts - Love, Actually

9 pts - As Good as it Gets

10 pts - The Notebook

11 pts - Up

12 pts - In the Mood for Love

13 pts - Lady and the Tramp

14 pts - Splash

15 pts - Shakespeare in Love

16 pts - Pretty in Pink

17 pts - Once

18 pts - City Lights

19 pts - Amour

20 pts - Highlander

21 pts - True Romance

22 pts - Punch-Drunk Love

23 pts - Casablanca

24 pts - Return of the King

25 pts - Wings of Desire

 

[krista4]

Am I wrong, or was every romantic gesture done by a man? Are women incapable of romantic gestures?

Anyway, very nice job, Mrs. R. You did a better ranking and better write-ups than I could have done.

 

[Mrs. Rannous]

Am I wrong, or was every romantic gesture done by a man? Are women incapable of romantic gestures?

Anyway, very nice job, Mrs. R. You did a better ranking and better write-ups than I could have done.

The Return of the King one is done by Arwen, a female elf. The rest are dudes.

 

[Dr. Octopus]

6 pts - Say Anything The hero does put his feelings out on the line, and plays Peter Gabriel's "Shock the monkey" * for the girl.

No, but if she turned him down, he may have went home and shocked the monkey.

 

[omally]

16 pts - Pretty in Pink

Duckie meets Andie at the prom and has a shot with her. He gives up his true love so she can be with her love. Very gallant.

Duckie had no shot with her. He wasn't her prom date, but was at the prom waiting for her so she wouldn't be alone. He did love her, but he didn't give her up so she could be with her true love, because she was never his to begin with other than a buddy.