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TNF: Bengals Vs Browns! Powerhouse matchup of the best 2 NFL teams in Ohio! (1 Viewer)

tricky92 said:
This is exactly how they need to be using them. Actually, I would probably use Hunt in the red zone and not just near the goal line. They do that, they will wear teams the hell out.
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They should really be using them on the field together. Super hard for a defense to defend them both, plus Beckham, Landry and Hooper. 

 
"Best 1-2 punch in Football" speaking about Chubb and Hunt or the Browns' rushing attack

-Troy Aikman

09.17.20

 
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tricky92 said:
This is exactly how they need to be using them. Actually, I would probably use Hunt in the red zone and not just near the goal line. They do that, they will wear teams the hell out.
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Yep by goal line I'm basically referring to the red zone. I would hope the total touches are closer to 50/50 moving forward, both are studs and each better at certain aspects.

 
Ministry of Pain said:
He lied to the owners and front office, then the tape came out and they had to release him. 

I'm just saying he cooked his own goose.
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They can put the blame on the fact that he lied to them but they really felt the need to buckle under the pressure of social perception.

 
Boyd is a bye week fill-in or at best a flex.  Burrow is the only startable guy.  Mainly because Burrow is so good that he uses a ton of receivers.  At present Drew Brees light.  Excellent for real football but brutal for fantasy.  The team is going to be behind like they were tonight a lot and when they do it looks clear that Mixon will evaporate.

But with Burrow my Bengals are fun bad at least.

-QG

 
dmac37 said:
They can put the blame on the fact that he lied to them but they really felt the need to buckle under the pressure of social perception.
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Somebody asked why, it's well documented why, the social spin is pure conjecture, I'm gonna stick with the facts. 

It doesn't lessen his ability to run a football, it's just what happened and partly why he signed a contract for $12M to stay in Cleveland vs $50M which he would have gotten eventually in KC.  

 
QuizGuy66 said:
Boyd is a bye week fill-in or at best a flex.  Burrow is the only startable guy.  Mainly because Burrow is so good that he uses a ton of receivers.  At present Drew Brees light.  Excellent for real football but brutal for fantasy.  The team is going to be behind like they were tonight a lot and when they do it looks clear that Mixon will evaporate.

But with Burrow my Bengals are fun bad at least.

-QG
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So good?  He completed less than 2/3rds of his passes against the Browns.  He looked good, don't get me wrong, much better than some of the third year guys out there, but much closer to no calorie, no caffeine, NEW BREES FORMULA than "drew Brees light".

 
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QuizGuy66 said:
Boyd is a bye week fill-in or at best a flex.  Burrow is the only startable guy.  Mainly because Burrow is so good that he uses a ton of receivers.  At present Drew Brees light.  Excellent for real football but brutal for fantasy.  The team is going to be behind like they were tonight a lot and when they do it looks clear that Mixon will evaporate.

But with Burrow my Bengals are fun bad at least.

-QG
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Again I do think this offensive will have good weeks like this - but it's going to be impossible to see any players as reliable starting options outside JB. 

As a Bengals fan was very happy to see Sample come out of nowhere and actually look like the guy the front office said they drafted (as opposed to the massive draft reach with minimal college catches that looked like a total bust last year).  I'd put him in the hopper as 14-team league type pick up if Uzomah misses a ton of time and never ever thought I would say that about Sample.  That said Buck was a little over the time having people storm the waiver wire for him.

Fred Johnson just showed how someone could actually lose a job to Bobby flippin' Hart.  Fans now clamoring to see Billy Price start.  It's a crazy world.  I cannot wait until all 3 of those guys have been replaced by NFL quality lineman as Burrow will be absolutely ridiculous if he actually gets real protection.

-QG

 
Burrow with 46.5 points on my bench in a 1/3 PPC league. 
:doh:

reasonably certain that will exceed Watson’s effort. 
 

bonus: Boyd’s 20 on my bench In dynasty as I feared a short week game for a rookie against a “good” CLE secondary. :doh:   :doh:  

 
Subbed in Uzomah last minute with word of crowder and Godwin's health being bad as I'd need someone to flex.  Hoping to find a wr3 somewhere now.

 
QuizGuy66 said:
As a Bengals fan was very happy to see Sample come out of nowhere and actually look like the guy the front office said they drafted (as opposed to the massive draft reach with minimal college catches that looked like a total bust last year).  I'd put him in the hopper as 14-team league type pick up if Uzomah misses a ton of time and never ever thought I would say that about Sample. 
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I don’t know, I think we need a bigger Sample size before we make conclusions here

 
wgoldsph said:
So good?  He completed less than 2/3rds of his passes against the Browns.  He looked good, don't get me wrong, much better than some of the third year guys out there, but much closer to no calorie, no caffeine, NEW BREES FORMULA than "drew Brees light".
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My Brees comparison is based on spreadng the ball around - he sure as heck ain't Brees yet.  But dude had zero lives snaps prior to 2 weeks ago and this team is running out a whole bunch of packages with different personnel and he is using everyone (well he tried use Ross, but Ross can't even catch the 19 virus at a rally for he who shall not be named).  And the receivers let him down on a respectable chunk of that 1/3. 

Just a heartening performance. 

-QG

 
Hot Sauce Guy said:
Burrow with 46.5 points on my bench in a 1/3 PPC league. 
:doh:

reasonably certain that will exceed Watson’s effort. 
 

bonus: Boyd’s 20 on my bench In dynasty as I feared a short week game for a rookie against a “good” CLE secondary. :doh:   :doh:  
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That's okay I allowed myself to get talked into starting MIxon.  Knew it was a mistake. :kicksrock:

-QG

 
Grigs Allmoon said:
It's not necessarily a matter of starting right away versus sitting. It's more a matter of not getting to develop because you are getting clobbered while trying to learn.

Carr is the obvious example. But, Trent Edwards of the Bills was another example of this. He was really starting to show promising signs until he got drilled (cheap shot) by Adrian Wilson, I think it was, and he was never even remotely the same.
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If you can't handle getting hit or playing on a bad team without being emotionally damaged for life, then you're not an NFL QB.

 
I didn't get to see the game. What did Burrows look like slanging it so much? I saw a lot of passes but a lot of incompletions too. Just curious if anyone could get a tell on how comfortable he looked etc. I also left him on my bench. 

 
Hot Sauce Guy said:
Burrow with 46.5 points on my bench in a 1/3 PPC league. 
:doh:

reasonably certain that will exceed Watson’s effort. 
 

bonus: Boyd’s 20 on my bench In dynasty as I feared a short week game for a rookie against a “good” CLE secondary. :doh:   :doh:  
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Where you getting your info from? Wherever it is, if they told you CLE had a good secondary you should stop using them immediately.

 
AndrewClark said:
I didn't get to see the game. What did Burrows look like slanging it so much? I saw a lot of passes but a lot of incompletions too. Just curious if anyone could get a tell on how comfortable he looked etc. I also left him on my bench. 
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Comfortable is definitely not a word I would use. The Oline is really terrible and it looked like he was scrambling to get rid of the ball on every play. He does make good decisions and have great accuracy though. 

 
What a great game. 

To me, that's the power of the league. Two of the worst teams can play and it's still hugely entertaining. 

Compelling story lines with both QBs and the Cleveland WRs and lots more. 

 
Joe Bryant said:
What a great game. 

To me, that's the power of the league. Two of the worst teams can play and it's still hugely entertaining. 

Compelling story lines with both QBs and the Cleveland WRs and lots more. 
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You thought the game was entertaining? How so? 

If you didn't have a player going last night, I found the game to be pretty lopsided most of the way and Baker turning it over up 28-16 with about 10:00 to go in the 4th when they were on verge of going 35-16, to me that was not entertaining in the same way that Denver-Tennessee which was wildly entertaining despite there not being too many scores. 

But I can understand why some were entertained last night but the outcome was really never in doubt. 

I do think Cleveland should be handing the ball off 40x a game with Chubb and Hunt in the backfield, they need to watch tape of the Miami Dolphins '84 when Marino would go in the shotgun with 2 RBs typically deployed on each side of him to either block or run out into the flat, Cleveland should try and keep both of these RBs on the field as much as possible. 

Best I've seen since another pair of Browns named Mack and Byner almost ran their way into the Super Bowl. 

 
Ministry of Pain said:
You thought the game was entertaining? How so? 

If you didn't have a player going last night, I found the game to be pretty lopsided most of the way and Baker turning it over up 28-16 with about 10:00 to go in the 4th when they were on verge of going 35-16, to me that was not entertaining in the same way that Denver-Tennessee which was wildly entertaining despite there not being too many scores. 

But I can understand why some were entertained last night but the outcome was really never in doubt. 

I do think Cleveland should be handing the ball off 40x a game with Chubb and Hunt in the backfield, they need to watch tape of the Miami Dolphins '84 when Marino would go in the shotgun with 2 RBs typically deployed on each side of him to either block or run out into the flat, Cleveland should try and keep both of these RBs on the field as much as possible. 

Best I've seen since another pair of Browns named Mack and Byner almost ran their way into the Super Bowl. 
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It was entertaining.

Seeing running backs like Chubb and Hunt healthy behind a good run blocking line with a great blocking scheme and a coach who wants to establish the run operating like a well oiled machine is fun to watch.

Joe Burrows...  The kid is fo-real.  Seeing him keep chopping and chopping setting an NFL rookie record in only his second game.  Very impressed.

Myles is awesome, he made the play of the game.

Stefanski ran more 12 personnel set of anyone last year and carried 5 TEs and a FB.  Don't hold yer breath expecting to see both Chubb and Hunt in the same backfield together as a base.  Invest in Harrison Bryant.

 
Ministry of Pain said:
You thought the game was entertaining? How so? 

If you didn't have a player going last night, I found the game to be pretty lopsided most of the way and Baker turning it over up 28-16 with about 10:00 to go in the 4th when they were on verge of going 35-16, to me that was not entertaining in the same way that Denver-Tennessee which was wildly entertaining despite there not being too many scores. 

But I can understand why some were entertained last night but the outcome was really never in doubt. 

I do think Cleveland should be handing the ball off 40x a game with Chubb and Hunt in the backfield, they need to watch tape of the Miami Dolphins '84 when Marino would go in the shotgun with 2 RBs typically deployed on each side of him to either block or run out into the flat, Cleveland should try and keep both of these RBs on the field as much as possible. 

Best I've seen since another pair of Browns named Mack and Byner almost ran their way into the Super Bowl. 
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How so?

It was  NFL football. If you didn't think last night's game was good, I'm not sure why anyone would ever watch any game. 

 
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