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Peyton Marino
Footballguy
What do you envision Owens doing that's worse than killing two people?
madviking10
Footballguy
Killing three or more while wearing a red wig and womens panties.
I couldn't disagree more. Steinberg is coming off as very jealous and jaded- SJ will ask him a question and then Steinberg will make it into some criticism of Drew when the question really had nothing to do with him. Or Drew will be talking and Steinberg will visably be shaking his head at the same time- very rude imo.He came off looking very hypocritical imo. One example:
Steinberg: Its wrong to use the media to your advantage when negotiating a contract. You should try to do it all behind closed doors.
Drew: Lee, you've done plenty more media interviews than me.
Steinberg: Not in the last year I havn't.
SJ: Well what about in other years.
Steinberg: Well, yes, you're right there. I have done more.
Peyton Marino
Footballguy
Killing three or more while wearing a red wig and womens panties.
How exactly has he wasted his talent? His numbers have been amazing throughout his career, his work ethic is great, and he displayed amazing toughness last year in coming back to play in the super bowl.You may not like him as a person, but try to be a little more objective when analyzing him "wasting" his talent.
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trader jake
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BigTex
Don't mess with Texas
Stillers Jr.
Footballguy
As an Iggle hater, I couldn't have scripted this any better if I tried.. LOL. TO is insane. Seriously.
tommyGunZ
Footballguy
Chill TF.The Ron Mexico thing was funny. Let it go or find a new board.Sorry, Vick is the only sports star with an STD. *lol*Do you even watch the NFL?I didn't say that; I was merely responding to the comment about the Falcons wanting high-character guys and I pointed out their star player is allegedly going around spreading a little gift with the women he sleeps with.Yes Vick is the ONLY sports star sleeping with lots of chicks.Ron Mexico.
Seeing as 1/3 the league has been arrested for DUIs, battery, domestic violence, drugs, gun charges, Vick's herpes are probably rank fairly low on NFL character chart.
Vick has plenty of character, and is a great leader. His team rallies around him, and their record is far better with him then without him. He takes more of a beating then any QB in the league.
Again, the point was the Falcons want character guys, and have said publicly they have no interest in TO. And if Vick was a FA, no team would label him as lacking character. So you're talking out of your ###.
J
Quite possibly the most jaw dropping post I've ever seen on these boards.Unreal - I have seen it all.
BigTex
Don't mess with Texas
First I don't know T.O. to "not like him as a person" personally I could care less what he does. Second I was very objective when analyzine him as "A shameful waste of talent" So you can better understan what I saying, please allow me to put it this way. T.O. is the #1 or #2 WR in the NFL and he on National T.V. looking like a fool. I not questioning his talent it's his mind set. Another way of putting it..........his a great talent.............but a crying shame.
You may not like him as a person, but try to be a little more objective when analyzing him "wasting" his talent.
From BlueOnion's thread:
1998
Despite trying to sell his case as a go to receiver, TO, in his biggest playoff game to date drops pass after pass. Borderline in tears, Marucci consoles him on the sideline, asks him to pull himself together and get back on the field. A teary-eyed TO brings himself to finish out the game and makes a great catch as time expires against the Packers.
Thus setting the tone of TO's career has the only guy to try and pick TO up while he was down was Mariucci...the man he continually threw under the bus later in his career.
2000
Although TO's personality has not completely blossomed as of yet, his cold statements after Rice's last game in a 49er uniform in San Francisco was worth noting.
reporter - So how was it being on the field with Rice today in San Francisco?
TO - "I caught 21 balls today! Lets talk about me! Rice is old news!"
2002
Despite Mooch doing everything he could do to help TO blossom into the player he was, once TO became a star, he was quick to point out that Mooch is the reason the franchise stinks...he should be fired! Mooch is eventually fired.
2003
Playing in the Metrodome, the Vikings blow out the 49ers behind a big game from Moss. TO chooses to use the National Spotlight to embarrass his Offensive Coordinator with a tirad Phil Hellmuth would be embarrassed to fess up to.
2005
TO decides to redo his 1-year old contract, after getting everything he wanted. At which point he decides to throw Mr. Eagle (Donovan McNabb) under the bus.
Maybe you nee to try and "be more objective" when reading my post.
popeye
Footballguy
Seemed a little odd to me tooChill TF.The Ron Mexico thing was funny. Let it go or find a new board.Sorry, Vick is the only sports star with an STD. *lol*Do you even watch the NFL?I didn't say that; I was merely responding to the comment about the Falcons wanting high-character guys and I pointed out their star player is allegedly going around spreading a little gift with the women he sleeps with.Yes Vick is the ONLY sports star sleeping with lots of chicks.Ron Mexico.
Seeing as 1/3 the league has been arrested for DUIs, battery, domestic violence, drugs, gun charges, Vick's herpes are probably rank fairly low on NFL character chart.
Vick has plenty of character, and is a great leader. His team rallies around him, and their record is far better with him then without him. He takes more of a beating then any QB in the league.
Again, the point was the Falcons want character guys, and have said publicly they have no interest in TO. And if Vick was a FA, no team would label him as lacking character. So you're talking out of your ###.
J
Unreal - I have seen it all.
Fla\/\/ed
Footballguy
WTF? You need a clue in the worst way. Owens is wasting his talent and it doesn't take a moron to figure that out.
You may not like him as a person, but try to be a little more objective when analyzing him "wasting" his talent.
SpaceCowboy
Footballguy
I missed Sportcenter tonight. Do you think they'll talk at 11:00 about T.O. and STD's and The O.J. Murder??This has to be one of the most on topic/off topic threads I've ever read.
RBM
Footballguy
Bottom line though is that Leigh got his point across, and that point is that Rosenhaus has single-handedly ruined any popularity that TO had left. This guy is the most hated active player in the NFL right now, and thats pretty remarkable coming off an awesome season, where he looked like a true team guy, and a virtual warrior performing the way he did in the Super Bowl. Rosenhaus flushed all of that momentum down the toilet, and some, and Steinberg successfully got that point across on numerous ocassions during the interview.I couldn't disagree more. Steinberg is coming off as very jealous and jaded- SJ will ask him a question and then Steinberg will make it into some criticism of Drew when the question really had nothing to do with him. Or Drew will be talking and Steinberg will visably be shaking his head at the same time- very rude imo.He came off looking very hypocritical imo. One example:
Steinberg: Its wrong to use the media to your advantage when negotiating a contract. You should try to do it all behind closed doors.
Drew: Lee, you've done plenty more media interviews than me.
Steinberg: Not in the last year I havn't.
SJ: Well what about in other years.
Steinberg: Well, yes, you're right there. I have done more.
RBM
Footballguy
Which? The JB post of the TF post?Chill TF.The Ron Mexico thing was funny. Let it go or find a new board.Sorry, Vick is the only sports star with an STD. *lol*Do you even watch the NFL?I didn't say that; I was merely responding to the comment about the Falcons wanting high-character guys and I pointed out their star player is allegedly going around spreading a little gift with the women he sleeps with.Yes Vick is the ONLY sports star sleeping with lots of chicks.Ron Mexico.
Seeing as 1/3 the league has been arrested for DUIs, battery, domestic violence, drugs, gun charges, Vick's herpes are probably rank fairly low on NFL character chart.
Vick has plenty of character, and is a great leader. His team rallies around him, and their record is far better with him then without him. He takes more of a beating then any QB in the league.
Again, the point was the Falcons want character guys, and have said publicly they have no interest in TO. And if Vick was a FA, no team would label him as lacking character. So you're talking out of your ###.
J
Unreal - I have seen it all.
Goodbye.J
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trader jake
Guest
Which? The JB post of the TF post?Chill TF.The Ron Mexico thing was funny. Let it go or find a new board.Sorry, Vick is the only sports star with an STD. *lol*Do you even watch the NFL?I didn't say that; I was merely responding to the comment about the Falcons wanting high-character guys and I pointed out their star player is allegedly going around spreading a little gift with the women he sleeps with.Yes Vick is the ONLY sports star sleeping with lots of chicks.Ron Mexico.
Seeing as 1/3 the league has been arrested for DUIs, battery, domestic violence, drugs, gun charges, Vick's herpes are probably rank fairly low on NFL character chart.
Vick has plenty of character, and is a great leader. His team rallies around him, and their record is far better with him then without him. He takes more of a beating then any QB in the league.
Again, the point was the Falcons want character guys, and have said publicly they have no interest in TO. And if Vick was a FA, no team would label him as lacking character. So you're talking out of your ###.
J
Unreal - I have seen it all.
RBM. That's what I wondered. Hope my post telling him to chill if wanted to stay here wasn't scary enough to warrant an But you never know... 
JJoe,This noob doesn't even deserved to be called TF. Please have Shick check the ip list for aliai.Chill TF.The Ron Mexico thing was funny. Let it go or find a new board.Sorry, Vick is the only sports star with an STD. *lol*Do you even watch the NFL?I didn't say that; I was merely responding to the comment about the Falcons wanting high-character guys and I pointed out their star player is allegedly going around spreading a little gift with the women he sleeps with.Yes Vick is the ONLY sports star sleeping with lots of chicks.Ron Mexico.
Seeing as 1/3 the league has been arrested for DUIs, battery, domestic violence, drugs, gun charges, Vick's herpes are probably rank fairly low on NFL character chart.
Vick has plenty of character, and is a great leader. His team rallies around him, and their record is far better with him then without him. He takes more of a beating then any QB in the league.
Again, the point was the Falcons want character guys, and have said publicly they have no interest in TO. And if Vick was a FA, no team would label him as lacking character. So you're talking out of your ###.
J
Thanks,
The real TF
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trader jake
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from john clayton on espn.com
TO also has a $7.5 bonus due before next season. Clayton suggests that the eagles tell TO that they WILL NOT exercise that option at the end of the year nor attempt to force him to pay pack this $1.725 in exchange for him 'playing nice' the rest of this season. this would give TO what he wants, making him an UFA at seasons endinteresting angle
SouthJersey
Footballguy
TO would never throw a game. Just like I don't think he'd sit out this season on his own will for more than a few games. He's quite possibly the most arrogant player in the NFL (as seen by doing situps in his front yard for fans and media). He's extremly worried about his own stats, and records. He wouldn't go out and half-### it on the field.The Eagles have been right in the past regarded getting rid of players....Duce, Bobby Tayolr, Brian Mitchell, Hugh....the fans hated it, but in the end the Eagles front office was right. But I think this time they might not be. Greg Lewis might be good...but the guy has only made 20 receptions in his career. Reggie Brown hasn't played a down in the NFL. McMullen isn't much more ahead of Brown. LJ isn't a proven commodity either (though I believe he's gonna have a really nice season) But who else do they have? I think the team would be in big trouble when their runningback is also their go-to reciever.OK, Eagle fan here. I'm not worried about TO throwing games (I don't think he can afford to; that's just bad self-marketing). I am worried that WRs like TO don't come along every day. Can the Eagles really do without him?from john clayton on espn.com
TO also has a $7.5 bonus due before next season. Clayton suggests that the eagles tell TO that they WILL NOT exercise that option at the end of the year nor attempt to force him to pay pack this $1.725 in exchange for him 'playing nice' the rest of this season. this would give TO what he wants, making him an UFA at seasons endinteresting angle
BassNBrew
Footballguy
TO is a jackass. That said, he stepped up last year in the Super Bowl when it seemed like he was done for the year. If it was all about the money, he could have coasted thru last season with the rehabbing to get back for the big game.Furthermore, he gets suspended for practicing when he shouldn't be???
You seem to think that all of that hurts his performance....maybe, just maybe, being loud and obnoxious actually gets him pumped up to prove critics wrong even more and it helps him. The stats say that whatever he is doing, it is working, so he is not wasting anything.First I don't know T.O. to "not like him as a person" personally I could care less what he does. Second I was very objective when analyzine him as "A shameful waste of talent" So you can better understan what I saying, please allow me to put it this way. T.O. is the #1 or #2 WR in the NFL and he on National T.V. looking like a fool. I not questioning his talent it's his mind set. Another way of putting it..........his a great talent.............but a crying shame.
You may not like him as a person, but try to be a little more objective when analyzing him "wasting" his talent.
From BlueOnion's thread:
1998
Despite trying to sell his case as a go to receiver, TO, in his biggest playoff game to date drops pass after pass. Borderline in tears, Marucci consoles him on the sideline, asks him to pull himself together and get back on the field. A teary-eyed TO brings himself to finish out the game and makes a great catch as time expires against the Packers.
Thus setting the tone of TO's career has the only guy to try and pick TO up while he was down was Mariucci...the man he continually threw under the bus later in his career.
2000
Although TO's personality has not completely blossomed as of yet, his cold statements after Rice's last game in a 49er uniform in San Francisco was worth noting.
reporter - So how was it being on the field with Rice today in San Francisco?
TO - "I caught 21 balls today! Lets talk about me! Rice is old news!"
2002
Despite Mooch doing everything he could do to help TO blossom into the player he was, once TO became a star, he was quick to point out that Mooch is the reason the franchise stinks...he should be fired! Mooch is eventually fired.
2003
Playing in the Metrodome, the Vikings blow out the 49ers behind a big game from Moss. TO chooses to use the National Spotlight to embarrass his Offensive Coordinator with a tirad Phil Hellmuth would be embarrassed to fess up to.
2005
TO decides to redo his 1-year old contract, after getting everything he wanted. At which point he decides to throw Mr. Eagle (Donovan McNabb) under the bus.
Maybe you nee to try and "be more objective" when reading my post.
dickey moe
Fingerpicker
That said, I just don't see Reid and Eagle's management putting up with TO's crap anymore. It's affecting the morale of the team, and that's the only thing the Eagles have going for themselves right now.
Furthermore, he gets suspended for practicing when he shouldn't be???
Drew made a perfect retort to that: Wait until he catches a few TDs and all will be forgiven.I also thought it was funny how Casserly and the players association guy back Drew 100%. SJ said that it was reported that some NFL GMs wouldn't deal with Drew. Drew replied: "Thats complete falsehood. Show me one GM that isn't happy to deal with me." SJ had no reply.Bottom line though is that Leigh got his point across, and that point is that Rosenhaus has single-handedly ruined any popularity that TO had left. This guy is the most hated active player in the NFL right now, and thats pretty remarkable coming off an awesome season, where he looked like a true team guy, and a virtual warrior performing the way he did in the Super Bowl. Rosenhaus flushed all of that momentum down the toilet, and some, and Steinberg successfully got that point across on numerous ocassions during the interview.I couldn't disagree more. Steinberg is coming off as very jealous and jaded- SJ will ask him a question and then Steinberg will make it into some criticism of Drew when the question really had nothing to do with him. Or Drew will be talking and Steinberg will visably be shaking his head at the same time- very rude imo.He came off looking very hypocritical imo. One example:
Steinberg: Its wrong to use the media to your advantage when negotiating a contract. You should try to do it all behind closed doors.
Drew: Lee, you've done plenty more media interviews than me.
Steinberg: Not in the last year I havn't.
SJ: Well what about in other years.
Steinberg: Well, yes, you're right there. I have done more.
I thought Drew came off very well and Lee came off looking a little bitter and jealous. It looked like he was only there to bring Drew down when really the purpose of the interview was to examine NFL agents in general.
Edited to add: Look, as a football fan, I do hate holdouts and all. But as a business-person, I admire Drew greatly. He has built himself into the biggest NFL agent today and is a very hard worker and skilled person.
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BigTex
Don't mess with Texas
Where do I state his performance will be hurt?You seem to think that all of that hurts his performance....maybe, just maybe, being loud and obnoxious actually gets him pumped up to prove critics wrong even more and it helps him. The stats say that whatever he is doing, it is working, so he is not wasting anything.First I don't know T.O. to "not like him as a person" personally I could care less what he does. Second I was very objective when analyzine him as "A shameful waste of talent" So you can better understan what I saying, please allow me to put it this way. T.O. is the #1 or #2 WR in the NFL and he on National T.V. looking like a fool. I not questioning his talent it's his mind set. Another way of putting it..........his a great talent.............but a crying shame.
You may not like him as a person, but try to be a little more objective when analyzing him "wasting" his talent.
From BlueOnion's thread:
1998
Despite trying to sell his case as a go to receiver, TO, in his biggest playoff game to date drops pass after pass. Borderline in tears, Marucci consoles him on the sideline, asks him to pull himself together and get back on the field. A teary-eyed TO brings himself to finish out the game and makes a great catch as time expires against the Packers.
Thus setting the tone of TO's career has the only guy to try and pick TO up while he was down was Mariucci...the man he continually threw under the bus later in his career.
2000
Although TO's personality has not completely blossomed as of yet, his cold statements after Rice's last game in a 49er uniform in San Francisco was worth noting.
reporter - So how was it being on the field with Rice today in San Francisco?
TO - "I caught 21 balls today! Lets talk about me! Rice is old news!"
2002
Despite Mooch doing everything he could do to help TO blossom into the player he was, once TO became a star, he was quick to point out that Mooch is the reason the franchise stinks...he should be fired! Mooch is eventually fired.
2003
Playing in the Metrodome, the Vikings blow out the 49ers behind a big game from Moss. TO chooses to use the National Spotlight to embarrass his Offensive Coordinator with a tirad Phil Hellmuth would be embarrassed to fess up to.
2005
TO decides to redo his 1-year old contract, after getting everything he wanted. At which point he decides to throw Mr. Eagle (Donovan McNabb) under the bus.
Maybe you nee to try and "be more objective" when reading my post.
T.O will probably be an UFA next year............his by some ranked #1 or #2.............yet who will want to deal with him. T.O will not get the money he wants next year (speculation on my part) there he'll have to settle for less. Other than Little Danny, who else is willing to pay him? If Philly allow T.O. to walk that'll say it all. T.O has said he's going to be a problem, he's shown that, and he'll continue to be a problem all year long. T.O is going split this organization in two.
Hi Thebad,I think you're asking the real question. And the answer is no. The reality of the situation is this: Barring a trade, an Eagle team without Terrell Owens would feature a starting wide receiver corps of Greg Lewis and Reggie Brown. Those two have a grand total of 23 receptions for 278 yards and 0 TDs. For their NFL careers. That’s scary enough that I think they figure out how to get Owens on the field.OK, Eagle fan here. I'm not worried about TO throwing games (I don't think he can afford to; that's just bad self-marketing). I am worried that WRs like TO don't come along every day. Can the Eagles really do without him?from john clayton on espn.com
TO also has a $7.5 bonus due before next season. Clayton suggests that the eagles tell TO that they WILL NOT exercise that option at the end of the year nor attempt to force him to pay pack this $1.725 in exchange for him 'playing nice' the rest of this season. this would give TO what he wants, making him an UFA at seasons endinteresting angle
J
LHUCKS
Footballguy
Hi Thebad,I think you're asking the real question. And the answer is no. The reality of the situation is this: Barring a trade, an Eagle team without Terrell Owens would feature a starting wide receiver corps of Greg Lewis and Reggie Brown. Those two have a grand total of 23 receptions for 278 yards and 0 TDs. For their NFL careers. That’s scary enough that I think they figure out how to get Owens on the field.OK, Eagle fan here. I'm not worried about TO throwing games (I don't think he can afford to; that's just bad self-marketing). I am worried that WRs like TO don't come along every day. Can the Eagles really do without him?from john clayton on espn.com
TO also has a $7.5 bonus due before next season. Clayton suggests that the eagles tell TO that they WILL NOT exercise that option at the end of the year nor attempt to force him to pay pack this $1.725 in exchange for him 'playing nice' the rest of this season. this would give TO what he wants, making him an UFA at seasons endinteresting angle
J
Both parties need one another here and both sides know it. Cooler heads will prevail most likely.You said that TO was a shameful waste of talent.I disputed that.Where do I state his performance will be hurt?You seem to think that all of that hurts his performance....maybe, just maybe, being loud and obnoxious actually gets him pumped up to prove critics wrong even more and it helps him. The stats say that whatever he is doing, it is working, so he is not wasting anything.First I don't know T.O. to "not like him as a person" personally I could care less what he does. Second I was very objective when analyzine him as "A shameful waste of talent" So you can better understan what I saying, please allow me to put it this way. T.O. is the #1 or #2 WR in the NFL and he on National T.V. looking like a fool. I not questioning his talent it's his mind set. Another way of putting it..........his a great talent.............but a crying shame.
You may not like him as a person, but try to be a little more objective when analyzing him "wasting" his talent.
From BlueOnion's thread:
1998
Despite trying to sell his case as a go to receiver, TO, in his biggest playoff game to date drops pass after pass. Borderline in tears, Marucci consoles him on the sideline, asks him to pull himself together and get back on the field. A teary-eyed TO brings himself to finish out the game and makes a great catch as time expires against the Packers.
Thus setting the tone of TO's career has the only guy to try and pick TO up while he was down was Mariucci...the man he continually threw under the bus later in his career.
2000
Although TO's personality has not completely blossomed as of yet, his cold statements after Rice's last game in a 49er uniform in San Francisco was worth noting.
reporter - So how was it being on the field with Rice today in San Francisco?
TO - "I caught 21 balls today! Lets talk about me! Rice is old news!"
2002
Despite Mooch doing everything he could do to help TO blossom into the player he was, once TO became a star, he was quick to point out that Mooch is the reason the franchise stinks...he should be fired! Mooch is eventually fired.
2003
Playing in the Metrodome, the Vikings blow out the 49ers behind a big game from Moss. TO chooses to use the National Spotlight to embarrass his Offensive Coordinator with a tirad Phil Hellmuth would be embarrassed to fess up to.
2005
TO decides to redo his 1-year old contract, after getting everything he wanted. At which point he decides to throw Mr. Eagle (Donovan McNabb) under the bus.
Maybe you nee to try and "be more objective" when reading my post.
You brought forth a bunch of examples of TO misbehaving off the field. Since I had just disputed your claim that TO was a waste of talent, naturally I assumed that your reply was dealing with my dispute. Therefore, I assume that you were saying that all of those issues were hurting his performance.
Sorry if I was wrong to assume, but if not, then what was the point of you posting all of that? And could you please clarify exactly what you mean by waste of talent?
Thanks LHUCKS,I agree. Here's my full comment for the Email Update tonight:Hi Thebad,I think you're asking the real question. And the answer is no. The reality of the situation is this: Barring a trade, an Eagle team without Terrell Owens would feature a starting wide receiver corps of Greg Lewis and Reggie Brown. Those two have a grand total of 23 receptions for 278 yards and 0 TDs. For their NFL careers. That’s scary enough that I think they figure out how to get Owens on the field.OK, Eagle fan here. I'm not worried about TO throwing games (I don't think he can afford to; that's just bad self-marketing). I am worried that WRs like TO don't come along every day. Can the Eagles really do without him?from john clayton on espn.com
TO also has a $7.5 bonus due before next season. Clayton suggests that the eagles tell TO that they WILL NOT exercise that option at the end of the year nor attempt to force him to pay pack this $1.725 in exchange for him 'playing nice' the rest of this season. this would give TO what he wants, making him an UFA at seasons endinteresting angle
J
J
Is that you, Babriel?Hi Thebad,I think you're asking the real question. And the answer is no. The reality of the situation is this: Barring a trade, an Eagle team without Terrell Owens would feature a starting wide receiver corps of Greg Lewis and Reggie Brown. Those two have a grand total of 23 receptions for 278 yards and 0 TDs. For their NFL careers. That’s scary enough that I think they figure out how to get Owens on the field.OK, Eagle fan here. I'm not worried about TO throwing games (I don't think he can afford to; that's just bad self-marketing). I am worried that WRs like TO don't come along every day. Can the Eagles really do without him?from john clayton on espn.com
TO also has a $7.5 bonus due before next season. Clayton suggests that the eagles tell TO that they WILL NOT exercise that option at the end of the year nor attempt to force him to pay pack this $1.725 in exchange for him 'playing nice' the rest of this season. this would give TO what he wants, making him an UFA at seasons endinteresting angle
J
Jason Wood
Zoo York
Hey Joe,You're right except that it would be Greg Lewis and Billy McMullen initially :XHi Thebad,I think you're asking the real question. And the answer is no. The reality of the situation is this: Barring a trade, an Eagle team without Terrell Owens would feature a starting wide receiver corps of Greg Lewis and Reggie Brown. Those two have a grand total of 23 receptions for 278 yards and 0 TDs. For their NFL careers. That’s scary enough that I think they figure out how to get Owens on the field.OK, Eagle fan here. I'm not worried about TO throwing games (I don't think he can afford to; that's just bad self-marketing). I am worried that WRs like TO don't come along every day. Can the Eagles really do without him?from john clayton on espn.com
TO also has a $7.5 bonus due before next season. Clayton suggests that the eagles tell TO that they WILL NOT exercise that option at the end of the year nor attempt to force him to pay pack this $1.725 in exchange for him 'playing nice' the rest of this season. this would give TO what he wants, making him an UFA at seasons endinteresting angle
J
An even worse proposition considering McMullen was very much on the roster bubble prior to Pinky's injury.
Overreaction? Why, they guy walked out of camp.
Hey Woodrow,Yes, :X indeed.Hey Joe,You're right except that it would be Greg Lewis and Billy McMullen initially :XHi Thebad,I think you're asking the real question. And the answer is no. The reality of the situation is this: Barring a trade, an Eagle team without Terrell Owens would feature a starting wide receiver corps of Greg Lewis and Reggie Brown. Those two have a grand total of 23 receptions for 278 yards and 0 TDs. For their NFL careers. That’s scary enough that I think they figure out how to get Owens on the field.OK, Eagle fan here. I'm not worried about TO throwing games (I don't think he can afford to; that's just bad self-marketing). I am worried that WRs like TO don't come along every day. Can the Eagles really do without him?from john clayton on espn.com
TO also has a $7.5 bonus due before next season. Clayton suggests that the eagles tell TO that they WILL NOT exercise that option at the end of the year nor attempt to force him to pay pack this $1.725 in exchange for him 'playing nice' the rest of this season. this would give TO what he wants, making him an UFA at seasons endinteresting angle
J
An even worse proposition considering McMullen was very much on the roster bubble prior to Pinky's injury.
Question for you as an Eagles guy. I understand the not re working the contract thing. But why are the Eagles so adamantly against a trade?
Secondly, what's the feel regarding the workout video / media frenzy thing? That was surreal. Of course it didn't help with ESPN's Greenberg leading into the story with the line of "TO unloads". I kept expecting the video to show him pulling a Kenny Rogers on the camera guy or something.
But the dumb bell curls in front of the camera was over the top, even for Owens. What's the word up there?
J
Jason Wood
Zoo York
Hey Joe,They're against a trade because, as one of the best run franchises in the league, they understand that there's no way on Earth they would get close to "value" for TO in a trade. Very few teams have the cap room to accomodate him, much less have the cap room, the willingness to bring him on, AND the draft picks/players the Eagles would covet.Hey Woodrow,Yes, :X indeed.Hey Joe,You're right except that it would be Greg Lewis and Billy McMullen initially :XHi Thebad,I think you're asking the real question. And the answer is no. The reality of the situation is this: Barring a trade, an Eagle team without Terrell Owens would feature a starting wide receiver corps of Greg Lewis and Reggie Brown. Those two have a grand total of 23 receptions for 278 yards and 0 TDs. For their NFL careers. That’s scary enough that I think they figure out how to get Owens on the field.OK, Eagle fan here. I'm not worried about TO throwing games (I don't think he can afford to; that's just bad self-marketing). I am worried that WRs like TO don't come along every day. Can the Eagles really do without him?from john clayton on espn.com
TO also has a $7.5 bonus due before next season. Clayton suggests that the eagles tell TO that they WILL NOT exercise that option at the end of the year nor attempt to force him to pay pack this $1.725 in exchange for him 'playing nice' the rest of this season. this would give TO what he wants, making him an UFA at seasons endinteresting angle
J
An even worse proposition considering McMullen was very much on the roster bubble prior to Pinky's injury.
Question for you as an Eagles guy. I understand the not re working the contract thing. But why are the Eagles so adamantly against a trade?
Secondly, what's the feel regarding the workout video / media frenzy thing? That was surreal. Of course it didn't help with ESPN's Greenberg leading into the story with the line of "TO unloads". I kept expecting the video to show him pulling a Kenny Rogers on the camera guy or something.
But the dumb bell curls in front of the camera was over the top, even for Owens. What's the word up there?
J
As to the tirade, it's all part of what I now know as truth that I used to think was overplayed...TO = a full house short of a deck
BigTex
Don't mess with Texas
Shameful waste of talent = great talent but a shame (i.e. embarrassment, disrupter, a problem, trouble)You said that TO was a shameful waste of talent.I disputed that.Where do I state his performance will be hurt?You seem to think that all of that hurts his performance....maybe, just maybe, being loud and obnoxious actually gets him pumped up to prove critics wrong even more and it helps him. The stats say that whatever he is doing, it is working, so he is not wasting anything.First I don't know T.O. to "not like him as a person" personally I could care less what he does. Second I was very objective when analyzine him as "A shameful waste of talent" So you can better understan what I saying, please allow me to put it this way. T.O. is the #1 or #2 WR in the NFL and he on National T.V. looking like a fool. I not questioning his talent it's his mind set. Another way of putting it..........his a great talent.............but a crying shame.
You may not like him as a person, but try to be a little more objective when analyzing him "wasting" his talent.
From BlueOnion's thread:
1998
Despite trying to sell his case as a go to receiver, TO, in his biggest playoff game to date drops pass after pass. Borderline in tears, Marucci consoles him on the sideline, asks him to pull himself together and get back on the field. A teary-eyed TO brings himself to finish out the game and makes a great catch as time expires against the Packers.
Thus setting the tone of TO's career has the only guy to try and pick TO up while he was down was Mariucci...the man he continually threw under the bus later in his career.
2000
Although TO's personality has not completely blossomed as of yet, his cold statements after Rice's last game in a 49er uniform in San Francisco was worth noting.
reporter - So how was it being on the field with Rice today in San Francisco?
TO - "I caught 21 balls today! Lets talk about me! Rice is old news!"
2002
Despite Mooch doing everything he could do to help TO blossom into the player he was, once TO became a star, he was quick to point out that Mooch is the reason the franchise stinks...he should be fired! Mooch is eventually fired.
2003
Playing in the Metrodome, the Vikings blow out the 49ers behind a big game from Moss. TO chooses to use the National Spotlight to embarrass his Offensive Coordinator with a tirad Phil Hellmuth would be embarrassed to fess up to.
2005
TO decides to redo his 1-year old contract, after getting everything he wanted. At which point he decides to throw Mr. Eagle (Donovan McNabb) under the bus.
Maybe you nee to try and "be more objective" when reading my post.
You brought forth a bunch of examples of TO misbehaving off the field. Since I had just disputed your claim that TO was a waste of talent, naturally I assumed that your reply was dealing with my dispute. Therefore, I assume that you were saying that all of those issues were hurting his performance.
Sorry if I was wrong to assume, but if not, then what was the point of you posting all of that? And could you please clarify exactly what you mean by waste of talent?
Family Matters
Footballguy
TO is suspened for 1 week:
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Family Matters
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Hi JB,You think like a Keenan McCardell deal? I can see that.
That's interesting though. It's sort of a pride thing.
In other words, let's imagine Owens was a Bengal with the deal he has now and wanted out. The Eagles trade for him. Realize the contract the Bengals gave him is undervalued and say, "sure, we'll pay you what you're worth".
That's not a hard situation to envision. But when it's your guy wanting a new deal because he's undervalued, it is different. I'm not faulting them. I'm saying it's human nature. And just interesting.
J
JaxBill
Footballguy
Joe, interesting article on the Eagles website by the team's online writer (Dave Spadaro)
http://www.philadelphiaeagles.com/news/new...il.jsp?id=32597
amnesiac
beer is good
OK, I gotta disagree here. The Eagles made the Super Bowl with TO on the bench. Surely that has to count for something?OK, Eagle fan here. I'm not worried about TO throwing games (I don't think he can afford to; that's just bad self-marketing). I am worried that WRs like TO don't come along every day. Can the Eagles really do without him?from john clayton on espn.com
TO also has a $7.5 bonus due before next season. Clayton suggests that the eagles tell TO that they WILL NOT exercise that option at the end of the year nor attempt to force him to pay pack this $1.725 in exchange for him 'playing nice' the rest of this season. this would give TO what he wants, making him an UFA at seasons endinteresting angle
amnesiac
beer is good
I agree. It wasn't that funny, imo.Seemed a little odd to me tooChill TF.The Ron Mexico thing was funny. Let it go or find a new board.Sorry, Vick is the only sports star with an STD. *lol*Do you even watch the NFL?I didn't say that; I was merely responding to the comment about the Falcons wanting high-character guys and I pointed out their star player is allegedly going around spreading a little gift with the women he sleeps with.Yes Vick is the ONLY sports star sleeping with lots of chicks.Ron Mexico.
Seeing as 1/3 the league has been arrested for DUIs, battery, domestic violence, drugs, gun charges, Vick's herpes are probably rank fairly low on NFL character chart.
Vick has plenty of character, and is a great leader. His team rallies around him, and their record is far better with him then without him. He takes more of a beating then any QB in the league.
Again, the point was the Falcons want character guys, and have said publicly they have no interest in TO. And if Vick was a FA, no team would label him as lacking character. So you're talking out of your ###.
J
Unreal - I have seen it all.
