The Z Machine
Footballguy
GLLLLL buddy. Thinking awesome thoughts for you.
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Trouble getting pregnant? (3 Viewers)
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The Z Machine
Footballguy
BTW, looks like IVF is a GO for us, starting this month. Thankfully insurance will cover 80% of the cost, and the meds don't seem to be a killer expense (to us) either. I'm excited, but my wife is nervous as she doesn't want to get her hopes up.
TobiasFunke
Footballguy
Thanks for the kind thoughts, sending the same your way.
El Floppo
Footballguy
El Floppo
Footballguy
let me know about the meds, gb
The Z Machine
Footballguy
It doesn't look like we'll need them, but thank you for the generous offer.
Good luck!
Flying Spaghetti Monster
Footballguy
Congrads and good luck.
El Floppo
Footballguy
Ok- that's good news for you guys.
I offered our stash of Gonal F to Z... barring my wife's approval (she's kept it for a year, but I'd like to ditch it from our fridge). If anybody else is interested- with the caveat that my wife might nix the whole deal- please let me know.
FBGirl79
Footballguy
I haven't caught up on this thread in a while but wanted to say congrats to all the new babies and good luck to those still trying. We are still "kinda" trying as in haven't gone back to using any drugs yet. We were going to start on drugs again a few months ago and then life threw us a curveball. We got temporary emergency custody of 4 month old twins and a 2 year old...talk about a reality check! We went from no kids to 3 kids literally overnight. They just went back home 2 weeks ago so we are just now starting to get back to normal rather than being in survival mode. Hopefully the next couple of months will put us back on the baby track.
El Floppo
Footballguy
ummmm... that is, if you still have the stomach for it? whoa- that's a lot of young kids to deal with. How were they?
bentley
Footballguy
Hey. Just saw this. Ours were both $14K-$15K. We did two on the first one and three on the second. That's what the protocol recommended based on my wife's age and hormone levels. Worked out that we got one each time.The second one is going in for an upper GI on Thursday because of reflux. We're a little freaked out about putting our less-than-two-month-old under.Looks like the insurance co. is going to cover our IVF treatments on some level. Doesn't sound like we'll need to wait the 1 year like I had posted before. Assuming that they cover 75% of the cost, what am I looking at here?We have an IVF class on Wed. so I'm sure that will be informative.Also, did you guys implant 1 embryo or 2?We were out of pocket for both IVFs plus all the other treatments. It was totally worth it.Went to our first IVF consult out here in MD. Things went well, and we would be on track to start IVF in a few months. The hitch is that it's possible our insurance won't cover it until my wife has a year of health coverage.
FBGirl79
Footballguy
It was definitely eye opening. I have a daycare so taking care of kids is nothing new for me but having them 24-7 was plus I had 3 extra kids to take care of by myself bc my husband still had to work. The kids were family members so they knew us (well the 2yr old did)which helped. The twins were premies(boy and girl) and being so little they were just starting to sleep through the night so the first few weeks we kept them in our room so we could get up and down with them easier. After about 2 weeks I had them on a pretty good schedule and sleeping through the night which was nice and shortly after we moved them into their own room so I was able to sleep much better and not wake up everytime one of them moved. In less than a month I had them going to sleep on their own which was huge...being able to lay them down at naptime and bedtime without spending 30-45 min rocking & walking them was awesome. It was great getting these two tiny babies (at 4 months they were 12 & 14lbs) and watching them roll over, start to sit up and start trying to crawl...lots of fun evenings spent on the floor playing and watching them grow. The 2yr old (girl) was awesome. She fell right into our routine and did great having structure & boundaries and she never once cried for her parents which was a relief. I think the hardest part for us was the visits with their parents bc they would come to our house in the evenings and not only did I have the kids to take care of, I had to get dinner made for extra people and deal with the drama/emotions of the parents. The 2yr old was incredibly well behaved until her parents got here then all hell broke loose every night they were here and it was screaming and fits for hours. That got old really fast! It was really hard to balance trying to be the parent bc we knew it was temporary but also establish rules and boundaries for the child and the parents. It was also hard knowing we did all the hard work of getting them all on a schedule and then they would go right back to not having that but that was out of our control. They have been gone for 2 weeks and honestly, my hubby & I are just now starting to feel normal again bc we were so exhausted mentally. There were many days I said to him, "are you really sure you want to have kids bc it is pretty nice just the two of us", lol. I think I still want kids most days but at the same time, if it doesn't happen, I don't think I will be devestated. I think if it were just the kids and no external factors (i.e. parent visits, court dates, gov't healthcare appts, etc.) we would have been fine but if they were our kids, we would have had time to plan for my husband to have time off work, me to reduce my daycare kids, have bedrooms set up and just have time to prepare in general.
El Floppo
Footballguy
awesome
can you come to NYC and get our kids on a schedule too. please? or at least write out what methods you used... please?The bolded was the part that caught me off-guard with our first. With my work, I'm used to doing long, long hours and not getting any sleep- so I thought I was prepared for kids. No. With work (or grad-school), I always have a time to recuperate... not the case with kids. the mental exhaustion just piles up until the drool or embarrassing melt-down (parent, not kid).
FBGirl79
Footballguy
I would love to come to NYC although I doubt taking care of kids would be top of my listawesome
As far as my methods...pretty much just sticking to a schedule and dealing with the crying for a few days/week until they settle into to it. For me, I have to have a schedule with running a daycare bc I put all the kids down for a nap at the same time otherwise I would go nuts with no break so I had to adapt the twins and the 2yr old to that schedule right away. Obviously the first few days were just survival and trying to find out what their natural schedule was and tried to taylor it towards mine. Once I got their dr's okay (end of 1st week having them) I started the Ferber method with them. We would get them up in the morning and do the morning routine of changing, feeding, burping, etc. and keeping them up until morning nap (I never let them sleep past 10am bc I needed them to go down at 12:00-12:30 with the other daycare kids). I would hold/rock them for about 10-15 mins until they were drowsy then lay them down. Since we had twins, they both went down right after each other but I put them in separate rooms for a few days because I knew there would be lots of screaming. I would lay them down with a little musical seahorse, turned the fan on and walk away. The first day I would go in and soothe them every few minutes. I literally listened to them scream for about 45 minutes that first day...I wanted to scream myself but you just have to stay strong. I would turn the monitor off downstairs (they were upstairs) and just watch the clock and go check on them every 5-6 mins. Eventually they went to sleep. Once they got up, the whole thing started all over again for evening nap. I needed them to go back down around 4-5 bc I had to cook dinner so I did the same thing at that time. I would wake them up by 7 if they were still sleeping bc I wanted them to go to bed by 10p. I pretty much just did the same thing over and over at the exact same time everyday. The key is doing the same thing each time before nap/bed so they know what is coming. At night we would go for a walk then when we got home and they would get a bath before bottles & bed. It took them about 3 days before I could put them down without crying. They would fuss but then go to sleep. Within a week there was no fussing when they went down. We put them both back together in the same room for naps and they did great. Once I got the days down, I started on the nights. We pretty much just got up whenever they fussed at night but we started by adding some rice cereal (with Dr's okay) to their evening bottles and kept them up until 10ish. They were waking up anywhere from 4am to 6am and I noticed when they woke up at 4a, they literally wanted like 1oz then fell back asleep. So I started keeping them up until 10:30 and giving them their bottle a little earlier, playing them with them then topping them off with another 1-3oz before bed and they would sleep until 7ish. Once they did that for a few days, we moved them to their own room and if they woke up in the middle of the night, I would let them cry for a little while and everytime they fell right back asleep on their own. Now I will say that the first month we had them, I don't remember leaving the house. I just didn't want to disrupt their schedule (well that and I wasn't ready to drag 3 little ones out, lol) until they were really settled into it. I know everyone says never wake a sleeping baby but I would wake them up if they had decided not to fall asleep until close to wake up time bc I wanted to make sure they were tired for the next naptime. That sometimes meant I had a crying, fussy baby I had to carry around for an hour or more but it was so worth it to get them on that schedule. The 2yr old...we just had rules and boundaries and established those from minute one. She was not rewarded for throwing fits, she had to sit at the table and eat dinner with us every single night, she ate what I made and she didn't get to snack all day (she did get a regular snack with the other kids b/t lunch & dinner). Those were probably her biggest issues. Mom & dad would let her snack all day, eat crap, throw fits to get what she wanted, etc. If she threw a fit, she was given a warning and if she kept it up, she was put in time out for 2 mins. After a couple days, she never tried it again with us bc she knew we were on the same page and weren't going to give in. When we got her, naptime meant a crib with about 10 toys/dolls and time to play bc at home, she was put there and left there until they felt like getting her so the toys kept her occupied. Everyday without fail, she sat at the table and ate a normal lunch then would get ready for nap. Everyday I would take one toy out of the crib and put it away so she didn't see it until she was down to her "lippo" (pillow pet) and violet dog that plays music. I would tell her I loved her, that it was time for nap and after nap we were going to get up and play. She cried the first couple of days but after that, fell right into the routine. I would tell her it was time for lunch and she would say, "then Bethie (Elizabeth) take a nap and get up to play with friends". She got it quick and thrived on having some structure in her life. Every night at bedtime, we would go for our walk, do baths and then my husband would read her books to her, let her give kisses to everyone (including the dogs, babies, etc.) then put her in bed. She was so happy at bedtime everynight, as well as throughout the day as long as her parents weren't there. I honestly think it is all about being consistent and firm...yet loving. You just have to be ready to put up with the chaos for the short-term for the long-term payoff. Not too bad for someone who doesn't have kids yet
The Z Machine
Footballguy
We went in for IVF egg extraction this morning. The doc pulled out 5 good eggs, and hopefully they fertilized. We'll hear tonight. Wifey did great and is sleeping right now after watching some NFL. We were hoping for more eggs since she they told us she had about 10-12 follicles developing and ready to go on Friday. I guess not all of them release though...
El Floppo
Footballguy
wifey's not ####### around, huh? for some reason I thought you guys were going to keep trying other routes.fertile t&p flowing your way, Z- best of luck with it. :fingerscrossed:
The Z Machine
Footballguy
LOL. Thanks flops.
One
Not Allowed In Mexico
Best of luck, Wooderson.
fatguyinalittlecoat
Footballguy
Good luck Z and Wooderson and everybody else.
TobiasFunke
Footballguy
Good luck, man. I hate to put a horrible Tom Petty song in everyone's head, but the post-transfer waiting really is the hardest part.
Wooderson
Fight The Power
Thanks everyone. The tough thing about this attempt is if doesn't work we wont be trying right away again as we have no more eggs frozen. And then the cost of course. Need to take a brake to build back some savings. I'm not sure what we will do.
But hopefully non of that crap matters and it will be all good next week.
But hopefully non of that crap matters and it will be all good next week.
The Z Machine
Footballguy
4 of 5 embryos made it to "pronuclear" stage. Thus, I guess we've all been pronuclear not matter your current feelings on atomic weapons.
Also, I really glad we did this in Maryland and not Alabama...
Also, I really glad we did this in Maryland and not Alabama...
The Z Machine
Footballguy
Wife got the IVF transfer this morning. She's on bed rest for 24-48 hours. We only had 1 excellent quality embryo and one that needed another day to develop. We transfered the one that was ready and hopefully the other one can develop another day and then get frozen for later use.
Now it's wait an see time.
Now it's wait an see time.
El Floppo
Footballguy
c'mon, venezuela!good luck, z- I saw you had the last post in here and immediately got anxious/hopeful for you. goodvibes flowing your way, gb.
Wooderson
Fight The Power
Got the news today. And it's not good. Wife and I have decided to take a break until the Spring and decide what are next step is then.It's been a long journey almost 3 years now. It hasn't been easy at all. For the ones still trying all the best to you and I hope it works out well.Thanks everyone. The tough thing about this attempt is if doesn't work we wont be trying right away again as we have no more eggs frozen. And then the cost of course. Need to take a brake to build back some savings. I'm not sure what we will do. But hopefully non of that crap matters and it will be all good next week.
General Malaise
Footballguy
sorry, Wooderson. :(Got the news today. And it's not good. Wife and I have decided to take a break until the Spring and decide what are next step is then.It's been a long journey almost 3 years now. It hasn't been easy at all. For the ones still trying all the best to you and I hope it works out well.Thanks everyone. The tough thing about this attempt is if doesn't work we wont be trying right away again as we have no more eggs frozen. And then the cost of course. Need to take a brake to build back some savings. I'm not sure what we will do. But hopefully non of that crap matters and it will be all good next week.
Flying Spaghetti Monster
Footballguy
Sorry to hear that news. I know it is tough. Best of luck.Got the news today. And it's not good. Wife and I have decided to take a break until the Spring and decide what are next step is then.It's been a long journey almost 3 years now. It hasn't been easy at all. For the ones still trying all the best to you and I hope it works out well.Thanks everyone. The tough thing about this attempt is if doesn't work we wont be trying right away again as we have no more eggs frozen. And then the cost of course. Need to take a brake to build back some savings. I'm not sure what we will do. But hopefully non of that crap matters and it will be all good next week.
TobiasFunke
Footballguy
Sorry to hear it.Got the news today. And it's not good. Wife and I have decided to take a break until the Spring and decide what are next step is then.It's been a long journey almost 3 years now. It hasn't been easy at all. For the ones still trying all the best to you and I hope it works out well.Thanks everyone. The tough thing about this attempt is if doesn't work we wont be trying right away again as we have no more eggs frozen. And then the cost of course. Need to take a brake to build back some savings. I'm not sure what we will do. But hopefully non of that crap matters and it will be all good next week.
Sorry man. :sad:Got the news today. And it's not good. Wife and I have decided to take a break until the Spring and decide what are next step is then.It's been a long journey almost 3 years now. It hasn't been easy at all. For the ones still trying all the best to you and I hope it works out well.Thanks everyone. The tough thing about this attempt is if doesn't work we wont be trying right away again as we have no more eggs frozen. And then the cost of course. Need to take a brake to build back some savings. I'm not sure what we will do. But hopefully non of that crap matters and it will be all good next week.
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The Z Machine
Footballguy
The wife checked yesterday morning (day before the "official" blood test) and came back negative. It was a rough day, but we did OK as a couple. Left the house early, had a nice breakfast, went for a hike to be alone together, and then had an early dinner at a dive bar. Came back home and baked some cookies to decide which recipes we we're gonna use for our yearly holiday cookie giveaway. We didn't really interact with the outside world much, and did our best to wrap our head around what's going on. So at least as a couple we're OK.
Went in this AM to do the official test, which confirmed the negative. I think we handled it well, and this way my wife didn't have to "get her freak out on" at work today. We're not sure when or what the next step is, but we have a frozen embryo ready to go when we want. We will likely wait until after the holidays, so at least my wife can drink and no one will be asking questions.
Thanks for the good wishes, although I wish I had better news for y'all. Best of luck to Wooderson especially right now.
Went in this AM to do the official test, which confirmed the negative. I think we handled it well, and this way my wife didn't have to "get her freak out on" at work today. We're not sure when or what the next step is, but we have a frozen embryo ready to go when we want. We will likely wait until after the holidays, so at least my wife can drink and no one will be asking questions.
Thanks for the good wishes, although I wish I had better news for y'all. Best of luck to Wooderson especially right now.
The Commish
Footballguy
Thoughts and prayers out to each of you. :(
Tiny Dancer
Footballguy
Sorry to hear it Z and Wooderson.
Wooderson
Fight The Power
Ah man sorry to hear that. My wife and I are doing OK as well. We plan to look into it again in the Spring. We are going to to Vegas for Thanksgiving to get are mind off of it all and relax I think that will help. Stay positive it will work out.The wife checked yesterday morning (day before the "official" blood test) and came back negative. It was a rough day, but we did OK as a couple. Left the house early, had a nice breakfast, went for a hike to be alone together, and then had an early dinner at a dive bar. Came back home and baked some cookies to decide which recipes we we're gonna use for our yearly holiday cookie giveaway. We didn't really interact with the outside world much, and did our best to wrap our head around what's going on. So at least as a couple we're OK.Went in this AM to do the official test, which confirmed the negative. I think we handled it well, and this way my wife didn't have to "get her freak out on" at work today. We're not sure when or what the next step is, but we have a frozen embryo ready to go when we want. We will likely wait until after the holidays, so at least my wife can drink and no one will be asking questions.
Giant Wooden Badger
the Beav
I was in this spot 8 months ago. We're now a little more than a week away from having twins. Good luck to you and condolences to those that have recently received not so good news. Hang in there.We had tried IVF a couple of times 10 years ago with no success. Still surprised it worked this time around.
TobiasFunke
Footballguy
Thanks. Things are still progressing nicely, so that's great.Condolences to Z. Stick with it. If you feel like making your way down from Baltimore to visit with the doctors we used I'm happy to give you the information.
The Z Machine
Footballguy
All good guys.
Wife talked to the Doc and we're going to go for a Dec. transfer of the remaining frozen embryo. Cross your fingers again.
Wife talked to the Doc and we're going to go for a Dec. transfer of the remaining frozen embryo. Cross your fingers again.
El Floppo
Footballguy
Well #### a duck.
But fingers crossed
Good luck you guys.
and btw... this is what I imagine Z and the Mrs' hike looking like.
But fingers crossed
Good luck you guys.
and btw... this is what I imagine Z and the Mrs' hike looking like.
The Z Machine
Footballguy
It was like that, but daylight with low clouds and a light mist of crack smoke.'El Floppo said:Well #### a duck.
But fingers crossed
Good luck you guys.
and btw... this is what I imagine Z and the Mrs' hike looking like.
The Z Machine
Footballguy
We may consider it. We get three chances (covered by insurance) at IVF per live berth, so one down. If the second blasto doesn't take, we'll be have some serious discussions on what they think is going wrong here.'TobiasFunke said:
mr. furley
Footballguy
sorry, Wooderson. :(Got the news today. And it's not good. Wife and I have decided to take a break until the Spring and decide what are next step is then.It's been a long journey almost 3 years now. It hasn't been easy at all. For the ones still trying all the best to you and I hope it works out well.Thanks everyone. The tough thing about this attempt is if doesn't work we wont be trying right away again as we have no more eggs frozen. And then the cost of course. Need to take a brake to build back some savings. I'm not sure what we will do. But hopefully non of that crap matters and it will be all good next week.
mr. furley
Footballguy
sorry to hear it man. best of luck to you guys'The Z Machine said:The wife checked yesterday morning (day before the "official" blood test) and came back negative. It was a rough day, but we did OK as a couple. Left the house early, had a nice breakfast, went for a hike to be alone together, and then had an early dinner at a dive bar. Came back home and baked some cookies to decide which recipes we we're gonna use for our yearly holiday cookie giveaway. We didn't really interact with the outside world much, and did our best to wrap our head around what's going on. So at least as a couple we're OK.Went in this AM to do the official test, which confirmed the negative. I think we handled it well, and this way my wife didn't have to "get her freak out on" at work today. We're not sure when or what the next step is, but we have a frozen embryo ready to go when we want. We will likely wait until after the holidays, so at least my wife can drink and no one will be asking questions.
How many embryos did you implant?
The Z Machine
Footballguy
1 last time, 1 again today (since that's all we had on ice).We decided to with a Frozen Embryo Transfer this round because (a) there are some major time constraints in the coming months regarding availability for IVF treatments, and (b) we are going to pay for the FET out of pocket, so as not to take a hit on our "maximum three transfers" that our insurance will cover. Since they pay %80 of the medical costs, it makes sense to make them full cycles and not FETs. Let's hope they took my wife out of the insurance system so as not to incur that hit. Sure it's gaming the system, and I feel bad on some level, but it's like a $8-10k difference in cost between the full cycle and an FET. I on;y wish we had another on ice to transfer today.So, hopefully my wife and I will get the best Christmas present we could hope for, a positive pregnancy test.Best of lcuk to the rest of you going through this stuff, and much happiness to those that have come out the other end, whatever it may be.
the moops
Footballguy
Good luck my friend. Good luck.
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