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I'd read up on the new drs success rates, if it's no better than the one you're with I'd reconsider. If you do the ivf and it takes hold, it'll come to a point where your wife will have to go weekly for an ultrasound or blood work. The more high risk, the more appts. That could get tedious if it's an hour away.

My wife got acupuncture done as well. I think for us the stress level really worked against us. She didn't get pregnant till she stopped worrying about it and then it just happened with no dr help.
Our clinic locally just does IUI's, they don't do IVF. This was one of the reason's for trying an IUI at the clinic in MPLS so we got a feel for the place, doctor, and quite frankly, a second opinion on our tests and everything else.

This clinic has the best results of any in Minnesota so we think we picked the right one. They do offer us the option of doing some of the ultrasounds locally but at this point if we are going to invest the money into the process, why not do it the right way?

I might have to suggest the acupuncture.
FWIW, we live in New Orleans and did the actual IVF in Houston (4 hours away).

  • Went to Houston for initial visit/consultation and talk through the process.
  • Literally did all of the drugs, ultrasounds, etc in New Orleans until the Drs. in Houston said it was time to come there
  • Spent 10 or so days in Houston doing the retreival, implant, recovery
Obviously, you need to make sure that your local doctor is aligned with the plan...but it can work.

 
I think some of the fear is that this IVF will be our last gasp at this. We always knew we could afford another IUI round but at the cost of and IVF, this might be it as far as what can be done and that is an intimidating thought.

We will certainly be asking a lot of questions and it is great reading about all the success stories like Fred.
I posted this when Fred was going through it but we had 6 failed IUIs before going to IVF. We were 2 for 2 on IVFs and have two wonderful sons as a result. Total bill was around $50K but it was all worth it. The good thing about IVF is that male/female/unexplained issues really don't matter all that much. The process gets around most of that. The major real issue remaining is if the wife has trouble staying pregnant for some reason.
Hearing stories like this certainly make us think more positive. It gets frustrating over each month which has turned into years. Hopefully this is an answer for us.
If you read the thread you'll see a lot of success stories and happy parents. The process is awful but it's all worth it.

My success story: we went through IUI several times and then 3 rounds of IVF and were eventually told it wasn't gonna happen with my wife's eggs. Chose the egg donor route, finally got a bun in the oven on the second try and now have a wonderful 18 month old daughter who is half of our world. The other half is our 2 month old son, a happy accident when my wife unexpectedly got pregnant again with no assistance just a few months after giving birth to the egg donor child. Apparently her ladyparts just needed to be shown how it was done.

I'm thankful for three things- our daughter, our son, and that our reproductive problems were mostly on her end, so I don't have to spend the rest of my life wondering if my son is actually mine.

 
My wife and I are starting on our fifth (and likely last) cycle of IVF. Each previous round, we've gotten a positive pregnancy test. Two have been chemical pregnancies and two have been miscarriages. The last cycle produced a 7 week miscarriage that tested genetically normal, which was a bit of a kick in the gut.

At my wife's age, we're lucky to get 2 normal embryos out of 10, so the plan is to run two cycles and have all the embryos tested by Natera. Then we'll just transfer normal embryos.

We've exhausted out insurance, so this is all out of pocket. If I have a complaint it's that I wish we had a doctor who suggested this type of protocol earlier. We were never candidates for IUI and I think there's a real cost to just transferring embryos and hoping.

If this fails, there's probably another conversation about a donor egg, I suppose.

 
I'd read up on the new drs success rates, if it's no better than the one you're with I'd reconsider. If you do the ivf and it takes hold, it'll come to a point where your wife will have to go weekly for an ultrasound or blood work. The more high risk, the more appts. That could get tedious if it's an hour away.

My wife got acupuncture done as well. I think for us the stress level really worked against us. She didn't get pregnant till she stopped worrying about it and then it just happened with no dr help.
Our clinic locally just does IUI's, they don't do IVF. This was one of the reason's for trying an IUI at the clinic in MPLS so we got a feel for the place, doctor, and quite frankly, a second opinion on our tests and everything else.

This clinic has the best results of any in Minnesota so we think we picked the right one. They do offer us the option of doing some of the ultrasounds locally but at this point if we are going to invest the money into the process, why not do it the right way?

I might have to suggest the acupuncture.
FWIW, we live in New Orleans and did the actual IVF in Houston (4 hours away).

  • Went to Houston for initial visit/consultation and talk through the process.
  • Literally did all of the drugs, ultrasounds, etc in New Orleans until the Drs. in Houston said it was time to come there
  • Spent 10 or so days in Houston doing the retreival, implant, recovery
Obviously, you need to make sure that your local doctor is aligned with the plan...but it can work.
My brother and his wife did something very similar in Colorado. Maybe a bit of an inconvenience but it worked.

 
My wife and I are starting on our fifth (and likely last) cycle of IVF. Each previous round, we've gotten a positive pregnancy test. Two have been chemical pregnancies and two have been miscarriages. The last cycle produced a 7 week miscarriage that tested genetically normal, which was a bit of a kick in the gut.

At my wife's age, we're lucky to get 2 normal embryos out of 10, so the plan is to run two cycles and have all the embryos tested by Natera. Then we'll just transfer normal embryos.

We've exhausted out insurance, so this is all out of pocket. If I have a complaint it's that I wish we had a doctor who suggested this type of protocol earlier. We were never candidates for IUI and I think there's a real cost to just transferring embryos and hoping.

If this fails, there's probably another conversation about a donor egg, I suppose.
Are you in the Charlotte area? For some reason I thought you were.

 
My wife and I are starting on our fifth (and likely last) cycle of IVF. Each previous round, we've gotten a positive pregnancy test. Two have been chemical pregnancies and two have been miscarriages. The last cycle produced a 7 week miscarriage that tested genetically normal, which was a bit of a kick in the gut.

At my wife's age, we're lucky to get 2 normal embryos out of 10, so the plan is to run two cycles and have all the embryos tested by Natera. Then we'll just transfer normal embryos.

We've exhausted out insurance, so this is all out of pocket. If I have a complaint it's that I wish we had a doctor who suggested this type of protocol earlier. We were never candidates for IUI and I think there's a real cost to just transferring embryos and hoping.

If this fails, there's probably another conversation about a donor egg, I suppose.
Are you in the Charlotte area? For some reason I thought you were.
No. DC.

 
I'd read up on the new drs success rates, if it's no better than the one you're with I'd reconsider. If you do the ivf and it takes hold, it'll come to a point where your wife will have to go weekly for an ultrasound or blood work. The more high risk, the more appts. That could get tedious if it's an hour away.

My wife got acupuncture done as well. I think for us the stress level really worked against us. She didn't get pregnant till she stopped worrying about it and then it just happened with no dr help.
Our clinic locally just does IUI's, they don't do IVF. This was one of the reason's for trying an IUI at the clinic in MPLS so we got a feel for the place, doctor, and quite frankly, a second opinion on our tests and everything else.

This clinic has the best results of any in Minnesota so we think we picked the right one. They do offer us the option of doing some of the ultrasounds locally but at this point if we are going to invest the money into the process, why not do it the right way?

I might have to suggest the acupuncture.
FWIW, we live in New Orleans and did the actual IVF in Houston (4 hours away).

  • Went to Houston for initial visit/consultation and talk through the process.
  • Literally did all of the drugs, ultrasounds, etc in New Orleans until the Drs. in Houston said it was time to come there
  • Spent 10 or so days in Houston doing the retreival, implant, recovery
Obviously, you need to make sure that your local doctor is aligned with the plan...but it can work.
The appointment went well and we are moving forward with things. We will be going through the first round of tests in the next couple weeks just to make sure things haven't changed since our last IUI at this clinic was over a year ago. We will be able to do most of the ultrasounds here locally, except for the retrevial, implant, etc in Minneapolis.

We feel very comfortable withour doctor after sitting down with her again. She also found us some "samples" of the drugs we will need to the tune of around $2,000 worth of medicine so that will help a ton with the costs!

 
This thread is thirty pages so please as I walk in and reply, don't expect me to have read any. Have you had a kid yet? If yes then I am babbling, but if no, I might be expounding some truth. Don't do it. Procreation is a dirty little secret that is only made prefect in movies and commercials.

 
Good luck to all trying. I posted the journey my wife and I had. My twin boys are now 3 months.

Support each other as it is a difficult thing to take on. Let the process bring you closer together. Try to relax.

 
This thread is thirty pages so please as I walk in and reply, don't expect me to have read any. Have you had a kid yet? If yes then I am babbling, but if no, I might be expounding some truth. Don't do it. Procreation is a dirty little secret that is only made prefect in movies and commercials.
Thanks for that carefully considered thought. Having opinions is [yogabbagabba] AWESOME [/yogabbagabba].

 
fred_1_15301 said:
So my wife is due in about 3 weeks. I'm horny as hell today. Any chance at all at the secks?
Sorry- getting to this late. I was in the mood yesterday too. Is the offer still on the table?

 
fred_1_15301 said:
So my wife is due in about 3 weeks. I'm horny as hell today. Any chance at all at the secks?
I think that's situational. My wife's girly bits were on lockdown for the second half of both pregnancies.

It's very interesting to look back on some of this stuff now. All the emotional drama related to infertility has faded now that we have two little boys.

 
Happy Father's Day to all that were blessed this last year. I know how hard Father's Day can be when trying. For those still trying stay positive and supportive.

 
I think some of the fear is that this IVF will be our last gasp at this. We always knew we could afford another IUI round but at the cost of and IVF, this might be it as far as what can be done and that is an intimidating thought.

We will certainly be asking a lot of questions and it is great reading about all the success stories like Fred.
I posted this when Fred was going through it but we had 6 failed IUIs before going to IVF. We were 2 for 2 on IVFs and have two wonderful sons as a result. Total bill was around $50K but it was all worth it. The good thing about IVF is that male/female/unexplained issues really don't matter all that much. The process gets around most of that. The major real issue remaining is if the wife has trouble staying pregnant for some reason.
Were your fertility docs able to anticipate any of these issues?

 
GL, wozzow... much better that you're in here and not trying to discuss this stuff out in the open range FFA where people like old Woz would feel the need to pipe in on infertility because they banged a janitor who worked at a fertility clinic.

my own story- can't help you with the IVF... but went IUI successfully twice. We found the doc that seemed to have a good success rate (and took our insurance), and with them worked out a plan for both kids: we'll do X this many times before progressing to Y before progressing to Z. We were already mid-30s when we started, so we didn't want to #### around... got all the tests imaginable (0-2% morphology on my sperm... "monster-headed") and stuck to our schedule. We were really fortunate to hit with the IUIs for both kids- but for our 2nd, we were up to our last attempt before moving on to IVF.

the planning and schedule helped take a lot of the stress out of it for us- IMO, it's the not-knowing and waiting that gets both parties so wound up. taking whatever control you can over it really helps. the money thing sucks though- no way around that, other than changing insurance plans to get better coverage for fertility (we did this).

seriously- all the best to you, Woz; you've come to the right place. and whatever the outcome, it'll be the right outcome.

 
GL, wozzow... much better that you're in here and not trying to discuss this stuff out in the open range FFA where people like old Woz would feel the need to pipe in on infertility because they banged a janitor who worked at a fertility clinic.

my own story- can't help you with the IVF... but went IUI successfully twice. We found the doc that seemed to have a good success rate (and took our insurance), and with them worked out a plan for both kids: we'll do X this many times before progressing to Y before progressing to Z. We were already mid-30s when we started, so we didn't want to #### around... got all the tests imaginable (0-2% morphology on my sperm... "monster-headed") and stuck to our schedule. We were really fortunate to hit with the IUIs for both kids- but for our 2nd, we were up to our last attempt before moving on to IVF.

the planning and schedule helped take a lot of the stress out of it for us- IMO, it's the not-knowing and waiting that gets both parties so wound up. taking whatever control you can over it really helps. the money thing sucks though- no way around that, other than changing insurance plans to get better coverage for fertility (we did this).

seriously- all the best to you, Woz; you've come to the right place. and whatever the outcome, it'll be the right outcome.
Can you elaborate on this a bit? I've been mainly looking at financing IVF at 6.5%

ETA: Also, sounds like your sperm is a jacked-upped as mine. :lmao:

 
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GL, wozzow... much better that you're in here and not trying to discuss this stuff out in the open range FFA where people like old Woz would feel the need to pipe in on infertility because they banged a janitor who worked at a fertility clinic.

my own story- can't help you with the IVF... but went IUI successfully twice. We found the doc that seemed to have a good success rate (and took our insurance), and with them worked out a plan for both kids: we'll do X this many times before progressing to Y before progressing to Z. We were already mid-30s when we started, so we didn't want to #### around... got all the tests imaginable (0-2% morphology on my sperm... "monster-headed") and stuck to our schedule. We were really fortunate to hit with the IUIs for both kids- but for our 2nd, we were up to our last attempt before moving on to IVF.

the planning and schedule helped take a lot of the stress out of it for us- IMO, it's the not-knowing and waiting that gets both parties so wound up. taking whatever control you can over it really helps. the money thing sucks though- no way around that, other than changing insurance plans to get better coverage for fertility (we did this).

seriously- all the best to you, Woz; you've come to the right place. and whatever the outcome, it'll be the right outcome.
Can you elaborate on this a bit? I've been mainly looking at financing IVF at 6.5%
we were carrying insurance prior to trying for kids (or maybe prior to trying for our second) that wasn't so accommodating to infertility coverage. the wife researched all the other available options out there and found the one that best suited her guessed at needs for going through infertility treatments (that we could also afford).

 
GL, wozzow... much better that you're in here and not trying to discuss this stuff out in the open range FFA where people like old Woz would feel the need to pipe in on infertility because they banged a janitor who worked at a fertility clinic.

my own story- can't help you with the IVF... but went IUI successfully twice. We found the doc that seemed to have a good success rate (and took our insurance), and with them worked out a plan for both kids: we'll do X this many times before progressing to Y before progressing to Z. We were already mid-30s when we started, so we didn't want to #### around... got all the tests imaginable (0-2% morphology on my sperm... "monster-headed") and stuck to our schedule. We were really fortunate to hit with the IUIs for both kids- but for our 2nd, we were up to our last attempt before moving on to IVF.

the planning and schedule helped take a lot of the stress out of it for us- IMO, it's the not-knowing and waiting that gets both parties so wound up. taking whatever control you can over it really helps. the money thing sucks though- no way around that, other than changing insurance plans to get better coverage for fertility (we did this).

seriously- all the best to you, Woz; you've come to the right place. and whatever the outcome, it'll be the right outcome.
Can you elaborate on this a bit? I've been mainly looking at financing IVF at 6.5%

ETA: Also, sounds like your sperm is a jacked-upped as mine. :lmao:
oh- it's some jacked-up junk, alright. creepily jacked up. I had decent sperm count at least.

we had 2 different friends with better looking sperm who were so freaked out that they were somehow broken, that they never went through with treatments or kids. Doesn't sond like that's you.

 
GL, wozzow... much better that you're in here and not trying to discuss this stuff out in the open range FFA where people like old Woz would feel the need to pipe in on infertility because they banged a janitor who worked at a fertility clinic.

my own story- can't help you with the IVF... but went IUI successfully twice. We found the doc that seemed to have a good success rate (and took our insurance), and with them worked out a plan for both kids: we'll do X this many times before progressing to Y before progressing to Z. We were already mid-30s when we started, so we didn't want to #### around... got all the tests imaginable (0-2% morphology on my sperm... "monster-headed") and stuck to our schedule. We were really fortunate to hit with the IUIs for both kids- but for our 2nd, we were up to our last attempt before moving on to IVF.

the planning and schedule helped take a lot of the stress out of it for us- IMO, it's the not-knowing and waiting that gets both parties so wound up. taking whatever control you can over it really helps. the money thing sucks though- no way around that, other than changing insurance plans to get better coverage for fertility (we did this).

seriously- all the best to you, Woz; you've come to the right place. and whatever the outcome, it'll be the right outcome.
Can you elaborate on this a bit? I've been mainly looking at financing IVF at 6.5%

ETA: Also, sounds like your sperm is a jacked-upped as mine. :lmao:
oh- it's some jacked-up junk, alright. creepily jacked up. I had decent sperm count at least.

we had 2 different friends with better looking sperm who were so freaked out that they were somehow broken, that they never went through with treatments or kids. Doesn't sond like that's you.
Ha, no. I look at it as being a biological thing that's of no fault to me. I have the double-downside of a lower count and monster sperm which is why we gotta go the ICSE route.

 
in addition to the changing of insurances, some fertility clinics offer plans where you pay once and you get 3 IVFs (in case of non-pregnancy). You'll have to decide whether or not it works for you.

Also, do you own a home? Have any equity in it? an interest only HELOC could get you a much better rate and better payment terms

 
in addition to the changing of insurances, some fertility clinics offer plans where you pay once and you get 3 IVFs (in case of non-pregnancy). You'll have to decide whether or not it works for you.

Also, do you own a home? Have any equity in it? an interest only HELOC could get you a much better rate and better payment terms
Don't own a home.

And yes, under the price I indicated and per the doctor, we'd get about 4-6 "chances" before we'd have to pay all over again.

 
in addition to the changing of insurances, some fertility clinics offer plans where you pay once and you get 3 IVFs (in case of non-pregnancy). You'll have to decide whether or not it works for you.

Also, do you own a home? Have any equity in it? an interest only HELOC could get you a much better rate and better payment terms
Don't own a home.

And yes, under the price I indicated and per the doctor, we'd get about 4-6 "chances" before we'd have to pay all over again.
There are programs out there that have "guarantees" or most of your money back. This one near us is what we used. Took a ton of the stress off.

 
woz- where are you in the whole process? did you already try IUIs?
IUIs won't work because my wife has issues too. So, doctor recommended we move right to ICSE.

First appointment at clinic is Saturday. Will do all the tests for the doctor and will go over process, financing, etc.

 
in addition to the changing of insurances, some fertility clinics offer plans where you pay once and you get 3 IVFs (in case of non-pregnancy). You'll have to decide whether or not it works for you.

Also, do you own a home? Have any equity in it? an interest only HELOC could get you a much better rate and better payment terms
Don't own a home.

And yes, under the price I indicated and per the doctor, we'd get about 4-6 "chances" before we'd have to pay all over again.
There are programs out there that have "guarantees" or most of your money back. This one near us is what we used. Took a ton of the stress off.
Looks like this is local to your facility. My clinic offers five options... unfortunately none with guarantees.

 
in addition to the changing of insurances, some fertility clinics offer plans where you pay once and you get 3 IVFs (in case of non-pregnancy). You'll have to decide whether or not it works for you.

Also, do you own a home? Have any equity in it? an interest only HELOC could get you a much better rate and better payment terms
Don't own a home.

And yes, under the price I indicated and per the doctor, we'd get about 4-6 "chances" before we'd have to pay all over again.
There are programs out there that have "guarantees" or most of your money back. This one near us is what we used. Took a ton of the stress off.
Looks like this is local to your facility. My clinic offers five options... unfortunately none with guarantees.
Have you considered shopping around clinics? Not sure if that is practical for you and your wife but it may save you some money (at the cost of increasing the hassle factor). Also, some clinics are very reputable and have a high success rate.

 
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in addition to the changing of insurances, some fertility clinics offer plans where you pay once and you get 3 IVFs (in case of non-pregnancy). You'll have to decide whether or not it works for you.

Also, do you own a home? Have any equity in it? an interest only HELOC could get you a much better rate and better payment terms
Don't own a home.

And yes, under the price I indicated and per the doctor, we'd get about 4-6 "chances" before we'd have to pay all over again.
There are programs out there that have "guarantees" or most of your money back. This one near us is what we used. Took a ton of the stress off.
Looks like this is local to your facility. My clinic offers five options... unfortunately none with guarantees.
This particular one is local, but they aren't the only ones. There are similar ones all over the country. Might want to take the time and see what's relatively close by, even if it means driving an hour or two.

 
in addition to the changing of insurances, some fertility clinics offer plans where you pay once and you get 3 IVFs (in case of non-pregnancy). You'll have to decide whether or not it works for you.

Also, do you own a home? Have any equity in it? an interest only HELOC could get you a much better rate and better payment terms
Don't own a home.

And yes, under the price I indicated and per the doctor, we'd get about 4-6 "chances" before we'd have to pay all over again.
There are programs out there that have "guarantees" or most of your money back. This one near us is what we used. Took a ton of the stress off.
Looks like this is local to your facility. My clinic offers five options... unfortunately none with guarantees.
Have you considered shopping around clinics? Not sure if that is practical for you and your wife but it may save you some money (at the cost of increasing the hassle factor). Also, some clinics are very reputable and have a high success rate.
We did and we chose the one with a very reputable success rate and that came highly regular from people I know personally who had success with their services.

 
in addition to the changing of insurances, some fertility clinics offer plans where you pay once and you get 3 IVFs (in case of non-pregnancy). You'll have to decide whether or not it works for you.

Also, do you own a home? Have any equity in it? an interest only HELOC could get you a much better rate and better payment terms
Don't own a home.

And yes, under the price I indicated and per the doctor, we'd get about 4-6 "chances" before we'd have to pay all over again.
There are programs out there that have "guarantees" or most of your money back. This one near us is what we used. Took a ton of the stress off.
Looks like this is local to your facility. My clinic offers five options... unfortunately none with guarantees.
Have you considered shopping around clinics? Not sure if that is practical for you and your wife but it may save you some money (at the cost of increasing the hassle factor). Also, some clinics are very reputable and have a high success rate.
We did and we chose the one with a very reputable success rate and that came highly regular from people I know personally who had success with their services.
sounds like the right call. we did similar.

 
woz- where are you in the whole process? did you already try IUIs?
IUIs won't work because my wife has issues too. So, doctor recommended we move right to ICSE.

First appointment at clinic is Saturday. Will do all the tests for the doctor and will go over process, financing, etc.
ah- got it.

sounds like the right move.

have you gotten a second opinion?
No... unless you count my wife's OBGYN's opinion. We really like this doctor both from our initial consult and from the assurance of people we trust telling us he's great. Just boils down to costs.

 
woz- where are you in the whole process? did you already try IUIs?
IUIs won't work because my wife has issues too. So, doctor recommended we move right to ICSE.

First appointment at clinic is Saturday. Will do all the tests for the doctor and will go over process, financing, etc.
ah- got it.

sounds like the right move.

have you gotten a second opinion?
No... unless you count my wife's OBGYN's opinion. We really like this doctor both from our initial consult and from the assurance of people we trust telling us he's great. Just boils down to costs.
how old is the wife?

 
in addition to the changing of insurances, some fertility clinics offer plans where you pay once and you get 3 IVFs (in case of non-pregnancy). You'll have to decide whether or not it works for you.

Also, do you own a home? Have any equity in it? an interest only HELOC could get you a much better rate and better payment terms
Don't own a home.

And yes, under the price I indicated and per the doctor, we'd get about 4-6 "chances" before we'd have to pay all over again.
gotcha...i must've missed that.

That really is a good deal given the # of chances. Believe we were about $15k for 1 shot

 

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