Tush Push - Do the rules apply for this play or not? Doesn't seem like it (6 Viewers)

[Snotbubbles]

Patriots just tried the TP. Didn't get the yard. LOL!

was just coming here to post the same. Throw out the Eagles numbers and it hasn't been shown to be all that much better then the traditional QB sneak

Worked for Aidan O'Connell & the Raiders.

I mean that specific play. Everything else has been a #### show.

They just tried it again on the goal line and got stopped.

 

[IHEARTFF]

Maybe it only works if you have HOF center and a qb who can squat like 1400 lbs

 

[Mitchie]

Maybe it only works if you have HOF center and a qb who can squat like 1400 lbs

could be true, but they shouldn't need the extra push then

 

[Alex P Keaton]

Josh Allen pushed in his RB Moss today.

Should be illegal, right?

No, it’s an elegant football play. It deserves a video in Canton just for this type of play.

 

[titusbramble]

NFL needs ball location technology if these scrums are going to be allowed.

That they don't have GPS or similar in the ball, regardless of whether this play existed or not, continues to baffle me

 

[renesauz]

NFL needs ball location technology if these scrums are going to be allowed.

That they don't have GPS or similar in the ball, regardless of whether this play existed or not, continues to baffle me

never understood the GPS argument. First, it would hafta be accurate to within an inch to have meaning (which is absurd from space...which is literally what GPS is). Second, how the F is GPS supposed to know when the players knee, or shin, or elbow, or (insert other body parts) is down?

The GPS argument makes no sense to me

 

[SeniorVBDStudent]

I don't care what they call it, as long as the ref signals first down or TD when bodies are getting up off the turf.

And the fact they're now attaching a name to it with a Phillly connotation tells you its viewed as an Eagles play - one they're very successful at, so sure let's ban it.

Philly Special
Brotherly Shove

Keep adding to the lore.

How bout we call it Philly Cream Cheese in honor of Philly fan reaction and the validity of the play itself?

Brotherly Shove....unbelievable.

 

[Da Guru]

Saw a ""push the tush" play in a HS game Friday night. Some in the crowd were chanting "Push the tush" everyone was laughing.

 

[OU#1]

Anybody else see them run Hurts on a sweep from the same formation? No comments?

Maybe a jump pass next?

 

[titusbramble]

NFL needs ball location technology if these scrums are going to be allowed.

That they don't have GPS or similar in the ball, regardless of whether this play existed or not, continues to baffle me

never understood the GPS argument. First, it would hafta be accurate to within an inch to have meaning (which is absurd from space...which is literally what GPS is). Second, how the F is GPS supposed to know when the players knee, or shin, or elbow, or (insert other body parts) is down?

The GPS argument makes no sense to me

That's why I say "or similar"

 

[need2know]

I can't remember life before this play

 

[Amused to Death]

Anybody else see them run Hurts on a sweep from the same formation? No comments?

Maybe a jump pass next?

They're starting to run some options out of it, now that defenses are going all-out to (try) to stop it.

 

[zed2283]

One more team that can't run it. Ban it!!

 

[Lehigh98]

Giants can't do it.

 

[Deamon]

Giants can't do it.

Ban it then if all teams can't execute this fully legal play as effectively!!!!!!

 

[JAA]

Brotherly Shove....unbelievable.

awesome

 

[Deamon]

Good response from Watt

 

[FFWhiskey]

The fact that every other team in the league isn't running it shows it's fine. Eagles o-line is amazing that's why it works.


Might as well ban Randy Moss from running deep.

 

[The Big Donkey]

Art Stapleton
@art_stapleton

Brian Daboll says John Michael Schmitz and Daniel Bellinger were both injured on the fourth-and-1 "brotherly shove" QB sneak play in the first quarter. Failed in more ways than one. #NYGiants

 

[Amused to Death]

Art Stapleton
@art_stapleton

Brian Daboll says John Michael Schmitz and Daniel Bellinger were both injured on the fourth-and-1 "brotherly shove" QB sneak play in the first quarter. Failed in more ways than one. #NYGiants

Its always a shame when players get hurt.

 

[Terpman22]

Art Stapleton
@art_stapleton

Brian Daboll says John Michael Schmitz and Daniel Bellinger were both injured on the fourth-and-1 "brotherly shove" QB sneak play in the first quarter. Failed in more ways than one. #NYGiants

DIdn't they line up like 2 offensive lineman behind the QB on their attempt? Giants are Giant losers at everything it seems.

 

[Amused to Death]

Art Stapleton
@art_stapleton

Brian Daboll says John Michael Schmitz and Daniel Bellinger were both injured on the fourth-and-1 "brotherly shove" QB sneak play in the first quarter. Failed in more ways than one. #NYGiants

DIdn't they line up like 2 offensive lineman behind the QB on their attempt? Giants are Giant losers at everything it seems.

Daboll also said they never practiced the play live, only walk-throughs.

 

[menobrown]

Other then Taylor Swift, discussions of if this play should be legal has been the most annoying thing for me to get through when I scroll my twitter timeline for NFL news.

I'm not reading through any comments here. Don't care or understand this. It's only unstoppable for Philly because their QB squats 600 pounds.

 

[Terpman22]

Art Stapleton
@art_stapleton

Brian Daboll says John Michael Schmitz and Daniel Bellinger were both injured on the fourth-and-1 "brotherly shove" QB sneak play in the first quarter. Failed in more ways than one. #NYGiants

DIdn't they line up like 2 offensive lineman behind the QB on their attempt? Giants are Giant losers at everything it seems.

Daboll also said they never practiced the play live, only walk-throughs.

2022 Coach of the Year. Doesn't actually practice plays they intend to run, with a backup offensive line where the offensive line is the key to the play.

So glad we play these guys 2 of the last 3 games this season with Gannon's Cards wedged between.

 

[Terpman22]

At this point we need to get a % breakdown of success:

Eagles
Rest of the league

 

[Deamon]

Art Stapleton
@art_stapleton

Brian Daboll says John Michael Schmitz and Daniel Bellinger were both injured on the fourth-and-1 "brotherly shove" QB sneak play in the first quarter. Failed in more ways than one. #NYGiants

DIdn't they line up like 2 offensive lineman behind the QB on their attempt? Giants are Giant losers at everything it seems.

Daboll also said they never practiced the play live, only walk-throughs.

2022 Coach of the Year. Doesn't actually practice plays they intend to run, with a backup offensive line where the offensive line is the key to the play.

So glad we play these guys 2 of the last 3 games this season with Gannon's Cards wedged between.

Plot twist: They're faking the injuries so they can get the play banned next year.

 

[trader jake]

Saw a ""push the tush" play in a HS game Friday night. Some in the crowd were chanting "Push the tush" everyone was laughing.

Saw the same thing last night at a JV game. Mass of bodies at odd angles as others pushed. Thankfully everyone got up afterward.

Art Stapleton
@art_stapleton

Brian Daboll says John Michael Schmitz and Daniel Bellinger were both injured on the fourth-and-1 "Tush Push" (edit) QB sneak play in the first quarter. Failed in more ways than one. #NYGiants

So stupid. Two players injured on one Tush Push play? Get rid of this nonsense.

 

[brettdj]

Saw a ""push the tush" play in a HS game Friday night. Some in the crowd were chanting "Push the tush" everyone was laughing.

HS they can push the blockers, but not the runner. We called a helping the runner last Friday night.
Of my four HS games this season, we have called the penalty twice.
The previous 20 years, probably called twice.

 

[Rubi]

Art Stapleton
@art_stapleton

Brian Daboll says John Michael Schmitz and Daniel Bellinger were both injured on the fourth-and-1 "brotherly shove" QB sneak play in the first quarter. Failed in more ways than one. #NYGiants

Schmitz was limping to the line of scrimmage before that play.

 

[Chaka]

I heard a couple Giants died when they ran it last night.

They'd be alive if Daniel Jones could squat more.

 

[Deamon]

Are people actually using the "Giants players that limped to the line of scrimmage and got hurt on a play they had never practiced live, and didn't even do correctly" as a "I told you it was dangerous!" angle?

If we've really reached that level, that is really sad

 

[SeniorVBDStudent]

The fact that every other team in the league isn't running it shows it's fine. Eagles o-line is amazing that's why it works.


Might as well ban Randy Moss from running deep.

actually its conservation of momentum. the increased mass of the pushers plus the tush is why it works and why it should not be legal.

 

[DropKick]

The fact that every other team in the league isn't running it shows it's fine. Eagles o-line is amazing that's why it works.

Might as well ban Randy Moss from running deep.

The play is crap. No other way to say it.

 

[trader jake]

Justin Fields must squat 600 lbs to get that Tush Push 1st down mid 1st quarter.

Also, loved how the two officials each had the play marked vastly different (a yard+ difference). One was a 1st down, one had it short. 1st down!!

 

[BassNBrew]

Justin Fields must squat 600 lbs to get that Tush Push 1st down mid 1st quarter.

Also, loved how the two officials each had the play marked vastly different (a yard+ difference). One was a 1st down, one had it short. 1st down!!

Yeah...officials don't stand a chance with that mass of humanity around the ball.

 

[trader jake]

Another one for the Commanders. Well done, brilliant!!

 

[Chaka]

Best.worst.play.E.V.E.R.!

 

[trader jake]

Another one for the Commanders. Well done, brilliant!!

Make that a 3rd Tush Push conversion in a half for Washington.

How are they doing this?? Unbelievable. I've been led to believe only one team could execute this play. Odd.

 

[Chaka]

Another one for the Commanders. Well done, brilliant!!

Make that a 3rd Tush Push conversion in a half for Washington.

How are they doing this?? Unbelievable. I've been led to believe only one team could execute this play. Odd.

LOL I think you've been led to believe what you want to believe. But I doubt you'll believe that.

 

[ohio#1eaglesfan]

Saw a ""push the tush" play in a HS game Friday night. Some in the crowd were chanting "Push the tush" everyone was laughing.

Saw the same thing last night at a JV game. Mass of bodies at odd angles as others pushed. Thankfully everyone got up afterward.

Art Stapleton
@art_stapleton

Brian Daboll says John Michael Schmitz and Daniel Bellinger were both injured on the fourth-and-1 "Tush Push" (edit) QB sneak play in the first quarter. Failed in more ways than one. #NYGiants

So stupid. Two players injured on one Tush Push play? Get rid of this nonsense.

Haven’t seen one player get injured during the eagles games during this play. Quit crying

 

[Doug B]

HS they can push the blockers, but not the runner. We called a helping the runner last Friday night.
Of my four HS games this season, we have called the penalty twice.

@brettdj , do your high schools use Interscholastic or NCAA rules? Was wondering if the rules regard pushing were similar in both rule sets.

 

[JohnnyU]

Saw a ""push the tush" play in a HS game Friday night. Some in the crowd were chanting "Push the tush" everyone was laughing.

Saw the same thing last night at a JV game. Mass of bodies at odd angles as others pushed. Thankfully everyone got up afterward.

Art Stapleton
@art_stapleton

Brian Daboll says John Michael Schmitz and Daniel Bellinger were both injured on the fourth-and-1 "Tush Push" (edit) QB sneak play in the first quarter. Failed in more ways than one. #NYGiants

So stupid. Two players injured on one Tush Push play? Get rid of this nonsense.

Haven’t seen one player get injured during the eagles games during this play. Quit crying

Jonah Lomu

 

[Cowboysfan8]

Justin Fields must squat 600 lbs to get that Tush Push 1st down mid 1st quarter.

Another one for the Commanders. Well done, brilliant!!

This cannot be true

I’ve read over and over on this board that “Only the eagles can make this work because THEYRE THE BEST AT EVERYTHING!!!”

 

[rockaction]

The Bears doing it twice (and making it easily) with Fields at the helm let me know it wasn't just the All-Pro offensive line and Hurts. That was easy peasy last night.

 

[ohio#1eaglesfan]

Never seen so many grown men cry before

 

[Amused to Death]

Justin Fields must squat 600 lbs to get that Tush Push 1st down mid 1st quarter.

Also, loved how the two officials each had the play marked vastly different (a yard+ difference). One was a 1st down, one had it short. 1st down!!

Yeah...officials don't stand a chance with that mass of humanity around the ball.

How is it worse than any other typical short-yardage play? If there was no pushing, would it be any better?

 

[Amused to Death]

Thirteen more weeks!

 

[Terpman22]

Justin Fields must squat 600 lbs to get that Tush Push 1st down mid 1st quarter.

Another one for the Commanders. Well done, brilliant!!

This cannot be true

I’ve read over and over on this board that “Only the eagles can make this work because THEYRE THE BEST AT EVERYTHING!!!”

Show me this exact quote by anyone. There is no one saying "Only the Eagles can execute it"

Its us saying we execute it better than literally the rest of the entire league. There were 3 examples of this failing miserably last Sunday and the Giants crap attempt on Thursday.

 

[Terpman22]

The Bears doing it twice (and making it easily) with Fields at the helm let me know it wasn't just the All-Pro offensive line and Hurts. That was easy peasy last night.

Lets see Zach Wilson do it I say.

 

[Amused to Death]

Justin Fields must squat 600 lbs to get that Tush Push 1st down mid 1st quarter.

Another one for the Commanders. Well done, brilliant!!

This cannot be true

I’ve read over and over on this board that “Only the eagles can make this work because THEYRE THE BEST AT EVERYTHING!!!”

Show me this exact quote by anyone. There is no one saying "Only the Eagles can execute it"

Its us saying we execute it better than literally the rest of the entire league. There were 3 examples of this failing miserably last Sunday and the Giants crap attempt on Thursday.

Yup, good for Fields he was successful a few times last night . I'd love to see the success rate of the Eagles vs. the rest of the league.

Bears fans - how happy were you to see the first down signal vs. a punt formation?