Chaka
Footballguy
GET 'EM!!!
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Tush Push - Do the rules apply for this play or not? Doesn't seem like it (5 Viewers)
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FarFromHome
Footballguy
Kinda silly this is still going. Ha ha
need2know
Footballguy
Made my night
Amused to Death
Footballguy
I'll bet Giants fans were happy.
Alex P Keaton
Footballguy
Mike Florio in on this now:
www.nbcsports.com
Nick Sirianni on QB push play: "There is not a rule against it, so that's what we do"
The NFL hates changing rules that can lead to unintended consequences.
www.nbcsports.com
trader jake
Footballguy
The Eagles have a 4th and 2 and don't run the stupid "push the tush" play. The run gets stuffed and no 1st down.
How does that happen with such a dominant offensive line? The RB must not squat 600 pounds.
How does that happen with such a dominant offensive line? The RB must not squat 600 pounds.
Chaka
Footballguy
Amused to Death
Footballguy
2 yds is too much. They do it at a yard or less.
trader jake
Footballguy
Review that push!!! 
GoBirds
Footballguy
Best play in NFL history.
JohnnyU
Footballguy
Not really
trader jake
Footballguy
What strategy?!!!
trader jake
Footballguy
Unstoppable!!!
Unless it gets stopped.
Then run it again.
The NFL knows entertainment when they see it.
Unless it gets stopped.
Then run it again.
The NFL knows entertainment when they see it.
rockaction
Footballguy
Great football.
By the way, I saw other teams doing it thins weekend. It worked every time. This is not something the Eagles alone are proficient at or specialize in. It's a stupid arrangement and a stupid play.
By the way, I saw other teams doing it thins weekend. It worked every time. This is not something the Eagles alone are proficient at or specialize in. It's a stupid arrangement and a stupid play.
trader jake
Footballguy
Again!!!! YES!
Just groundbreaking.
Just groundbreaking.
GoBirds
Footballguy
Tanner9919
Footballguy
ya know, I'm so sick and tired of teams not being able to get off the filed on 3rd and 22 that it's so refreshing to see a team get a first down with the bunch play/rugby play.
it's awesome.
it's awesome.
trader jake
Footballguy
What a trick play off the tush push!!
Like everything else they do with the Tush Push, great execution.
Like everything else they do with the Tush Push, great execution.
FarFromHome
Footballguy
Still.....
Going.....
Going.....
Galileo
Footballguy
I am surprised it took so long for them to try and run something else out of Tush Push look. The problem is they were too far out to make it believable and they were not in the same formation to sell it.
FarFromHome
Footballguy
Can't get away from it. Start the car to leave to work and its what my sports radio station is discussing. Smh. They did bring up a good point. It does put the defensive lineman at increased injury risk. They kept saying after the first star defensive player injury the NFL will address this. Maybe I guess.
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Alex P Keaton
Footballguy
Not gonna happen. Folks in here have already told us that there is no increased injury risk. How do they know? Because it hasn’t happened so far, thus it never will.
Snotbubbles
Footballguy
Just because a plane can crash doesn't mean that flying isn't the safest way to travel. The argument that the play isn't safe because someone COULD get hurt is asinine. A player can get hurt running down the field with no contact, what are you going to propose then, speed walking instead of running?
Alex P Keaton
Footballguy
I do like the analogy of plane travel. Not sure it applies but truly it is a really good point.
JohnnyU
Footballguy
Never is a long time. That isn't the reason for banning it however. It's called leverage. If a defensive player can't climb the back of a lineman to block a field goal, then why should a player be allowed to push someone from behind? Both plays require using another player as leverage.
Amused to Death
Footballguy
Wrong. An injury will occur at some point with this play. Its football. Players are hurt every game, every week. Eventually someone will be hurt during this play and the haters will all yell "AH HA! TOLD YOU!!".
Its football, players get hurt. Same will happen here.
Alex P Keaton
Footballguy
Great point Johnny U.
Snotbubbles
Footballguy
So does gang tackling.
unckeyherb
Footballguy
Having someone climb up and stand on the shoulders of a D-lineman to block a punt is not leverage and is certainly not comparable to the play we're talking about. How about when a RB is running behind a blocker and literally pushes him into an oncoming tackler. You see that all the time. That is the definition of using another player as leverage. Or gang tackling like @Snotbubbles said above.
And regarding the injury thing, I'd submit that you can get injured on any play. However, typically injuries occur when some or all of the players are running at full or near full speed and collide with each other OR someone is being tackled in an awkward way. There is almost no movement on this play and no one is tackling the ball carrier in this scenario.
Chaka
Footballguy
I'm not sure the data support that. Plenty of injuries occur when there are a lot of bodies in small spaces falling into each other at awkward angles.
FarFromHome
Footballguy
Link? Bwahahaha
rockaction
Footballguy
The penalty called for that is indeed called leverage. It's a personal foul - leverage, because you use the person as leverage to get in the air.
rockaction
Footballguy
If anyone ran this play, I'd hate it. It's changing the whole game. They're now beginning to do it on third and two. What's to stop them from running nearly every play if they get two yards out of it each time?
Awful play for the sport.
Awful play for the sport.
rockaction
Footballguy
When we see it being run on second and six, it's jumped the shark.
rockaction
Footballguy
And someone is going to get sick of it and do something. See what the Jets just did to Mac Jones. They held him up and tried to twist his neck off.
Hurts better watch out when he tries to do this to Quinnen (if the Jets' hearts are still into it by then).
Hurts better watch out when he tries to do this to Quinnen (if the Jets' hearts are still into it by then).
trader jake
Footballguy
It was a good run Eagles, but even one of your own players admitted what they're doing isn't even legal right now.
From PFT:
*Last night, when the Eagles lined up in their trademark formation near the Tampa Bay end zone on third and goal, the effort by Jalen Hurts to score six points included not a push from tight end Dallas Goedert but an effort to pull him across the white stripe. Goedert did it again on fourth down, but it wasn’t as obvious.
“I was yanking him for sure,” Goedert admitted after the game, via Rob Maaddi of the Associated Press. “They say you can’t pull, but I was behind him.”
Goedert was indeed behind Hurts, but Goedert was not pushing. He was, as he put it, “yanking.” He was pulling. He slipped his arms under Hurts’s arms and tried to lift him in.
It’s not classic pulling, but it’s far closer to a pull than a push. And once it becomes a pull, it becomes an illegal play.*
Get rid of this legal, illegal play already.
From PFT:
*Last night, when the Eagles lined up in their trademark formation near the Tampa Bay end zone on third and goal, the effort by Jalen Hurts to score six points included not a push from tight end Dallas Goedert but an effort to pull him across the white stripe. Goedert did it again on fourth down, but it wasn’t as obvious.
“I was yanking him for sure,” Goedert admitted after the game, via Rob Maaddi of the Associated Press. “They say you can’t pull, but I was behind him.”
Goedert was indeed behind Hurts, but Goedert was not pushing. He was, as he put it, “yanking.” He was pulling. He slipped his arms under Hurts’s arms and tried to lift him in.
It’s not classic pulling, but it’s far closer to a pull than a push. And once it becomes a pull, it becomes an illegal play.*
Get rid of this legal, illegal play already.
Amused to Death
Footballguy
Yes, I saw that live and thought it was close to a penalty. If it was called, I wouldn't have complained. That doesn't happen every time they run it.
unckeyherb
Footballguy
True story, I’m not saying it’s not a penalty, what I’m saying is that standing on someone to make yourself 9 ft tall isn’t the same thing as pushing someone. Even if the word used is leverage.
Terpman22
Footballguy
Its on the officials to make the calls. The play is actually legal, but the way Goedert did it "this time" was not. I am very shocked an NFL official missed a call though, for the record.
