US Men's National Team (14 Viewers)

[BassNBrew]

Time to replace the coach?

 

[JaxBill]

They subbed out Robinson. That's the ticket!

 

[El Floppo]

That last sequence. Not one US player made a run in front of gonzo. He's dribbling up and 7 guys standing perfectly still in front of him...likely hiding from the fans.

 

[El Floppo]

I honestly can't remember a US game with so little fight or interest, let alone skills.

 

[Ramsay Hunt Experience]

I considered seeing this game live. I’d say I dodged a bullet, but I might have been able to convince a Reggae Boyz fan to pass the dutchie. 

 

[BassNBrew]

Pulisic has to be thinking WTF and how can I get out of playing with these clowns.

 

[El Floppo]

Excluding the press right?

 

[Moe.]

I’m going to be very disappointed if Duane Holmes doesn’t make the roster and it’s weird to me he’s considered a bubble guy. 

 

[El Floppo]

I’m going to be very disappointed if Duane Holmes doesn’t make the roster and it’s weird to me he’s considered a bubble guy. 

He's a bubble guy. That's why he's getting minutes here...

 

[Plorfu]

I considered seeing this game live. I’d say I dodged a bullet, but I might have been able to convince a Reggae Boyz fan to pass the dutchie. 

Good choice. A US fan would have dropped the dutchie into a sewer grate. 

 

[El Floppo]

Still not pressing? 90 seconds left...still sitting back?

 

[El Floppo]

I COULD'VE BEEN WATCHING GOLDEN GIRLS RERUNS INSTEAD OF THIS

 

[El Floppo]

boo

 

[Plorfu]

At least you guys got to be part of the Kevon Lambert Experience, albeit only on TV instead of within the magical confines of Casino Arizona Field.

 

[BassNBrew]

Zardes is on the Gold Cup roster?

 

[El Floppo]

I'm not going to say I" told you so", but....

You told me he'd have a bad game after playing well for the US so far? I don't remember that 

 

[Worm]

Welp.

 

[TripItUp]

You told me he'd have a bad game after playing well for the US so far? I don't remember that 

I've stated that he's overrated.   I don't know that he's played well for us thus far has he?

 

[El Floppo]

Roldan, nips, miazga, Steffen. 

Keep.

Everybody else, put back in the bag and hope for something better.

Holmes too.

 

[El Floppo]

I've stated that he's overrated.   I don't know that he's played well for us thus far has he?

Yes. Why I'm a fan. If he hadn't, or was say... inconsistent... I'd be less of a fan. I'm certainly less of a fan after today though.

 

[El Floppo]

I'm trying to remember Robinsons frogger pattern... 2 games on, one game off- or is it 1 game on, 2 games off...

 

[BassNBrew]

Worst friendly loss in US history?

 

[TripItUp]

Worst friendly loss in US history?

Nah...we rolled out a B team that hasn't played with each other in a  new system.   

 

[Christo]

I've stated that he's overrated.   I don't know that he's played well for us thus far has he?

I think he has. Enough to be optimistic.

 

[El Floppo]

Worst friendly loss in US history?

Dunno about that, but I reiterate that I don't remember seeing such a combo of disinterest and lack of fight let alone lack of skills.

 

[Christo]

U.S. Soccer MNT

@USMNT

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#USMNT head coach Gregg Berhalter on tonight’s defeat to Jamaica: “Overall, the effort was okay, but we performed poorly tonight.”

Yeah, no.

 

[Moe.]

He's a bubble guy. That's why he's getting minutes here...

Yeah, that’s...exactly what I said, right? I know he’s a bubble guy. In my opinion he shouldn’t be. Frankie Lamps loves the guy, what else is there to know?

 

[Dinsy Ejotuz]

You guys have short memories.

 

[El Floppo]

Yeah, that’s...exactly what I said, right? I know he’s a bubble guy. In my opinion he shouldn’t be. Frankie Lamps loves the guy, what else is there to know?

It's logic I can't possibly argue with.

 

[El Floppo]

You guys have short memories.

The wet and bumpy crew were better than this in some ways. Like the uniforms, for instance.

 

[Scienceguy]

U.S. Soccer MNT

@USMNT

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#USMNT head coach Gregg Berhalter on tonight’s defeat to Jamaica: “Overall, the effort was okay, but we performed poorly tonight.”

Yeah, no.

= we tried hard but still sucked.

great

 

[Scienceguy]

For those asking for Boyd, he was not listed on the subs bench initially.  Did that change?

I saw somewhere that a lot of the the guys definitely on the Gold Cup roster basically got the night off. Boyd’s one of them. 

 

[Scienceguy]

If @Scienceguywas using his tracking stats, Robinson would likely be deep into the negatives.  He lost the ball so many times :(

Not doing that to myself on this one. I’ll grade the actual Gold Cup games when they come around though. If any of you are interested I put my grading chart up on my website. Maybe don’t do this game though.

 

[The Z Machine]

I COULD'VE BEEN WATCHING GOLDEN GIRLS RERUNS INSTEAD OF THIS

I watched episode 2 of Chernobyl instead.  Much better decision, even if this game was a bigger disaster in the end.

 

[shader]

Not doing that to myself on this one. I’ll grade the actual Gold Cup games when they come around though. If any of you are interested I put my grading chart up on my website. Maybe don’t do this game though.

That’s a really cool chart and site you got there!

 

[shader]

If all these guys aren’t gonna play anyway, I guess this game doesn’t really matter.  But it shows that the US team has some major depth issues.  Yikes that was ugly 

 

[TripItUp]

If all these guys aren’t gonna play anyway, I guess this game doesn’t really matter.  But it shows that the US team has some major depth issues.  Yikes that was ugly 

I would agree if our U20 team wasn't shining

 

[Ramsay Hunt Experience]

Not doing that to myself on this one. I’ll grade the actual Gold Cup games when they come around though. If any of you are interested I put my grading chart up on my website. Maybe don’t do this game though.

Robinson would needed to have been rated on the Kelvin scale. 

 

[shader]

I would agree if our U20 team wasn't shining

Make the U20 team the new 2nd string.  Problem solved!

 

[NewlyRetired]

Make the U20 team the new 2nd string.  Problem solved!

Much of the U20 side is likely to move on to the U23 side for Olympic qualifying later this year.

I am hopeful that 3-4 members of the current U20 side will have an effect on this cycle, eventually.

 

[NewlyRetired]

Lletget is officially out of the Gold Cup.

I wonder if that could open up a spot for Holmes (who was the only player who looked alive tonight)?  

 

[Dinsy Ejotuz]

Dest's all-touch vs France is super.  He must be strong as an ox -- shrugs off the attacker in a physical 50/50 and comes out with the ball 3 or 4 times.

 

[FBG Moderator]

21 for Jamaica, Kevon Lambert, plays for the Phoenix Rising. Speaking of, @FBG Moderator - can you add #1 Fan of Phoenix Rising Soccer under my screen name?

No

 

[Plorfu]

I dunno. Seems mean. 

 

[BassNBrew]

No

May your wife be dry and lumpy.

 

[SwampDawg]

Can't believe I stayed up to watch that after getting home from my son's baseball game, I should have just fast forwarded it so it looked like they were moving fast. I kept waiting for it to get better.  

Positives (if forced to pick any): Steffan, he had the one mistake playing around with the ball too much but other then that looked pretty solid. The goal would have been a hell of a save. I have way more confidence in him then Howard and Guzan the end of last cycle. Miazga I thought looked pretty solid and was the only field player that actually seemed in command.

I've seen a lot of comments on Robinson, and he did leave a lot to be desired but at least it seemed like he was making an effort, making runs and trying to make crosses and make something happen. Mihailovic was the anti-man of the match to me, he always seemed to either be giving the ball away or not in the right spot, hopefully he is sent back to Chicago and not even allowed to go to Cincinnati. Trapp was a disappointment, I want to like him, seems like a hard working guy and I want to believe his knowing what Berhalter wants is important. This should have been the type of competition he could look good against but instead he had little effort and that goal was on him and his lack of pressuring. Really hoped Sargent stepped up last night, instead he looked like a 19 year old.

The only two that should be starting come the actual Gold Cup are Steffan and Miazga. Roldan can be on the bench unless he turns the ball over that much in practice, CCV didn't really get to see much of so bring him along and I'll bring Sargent along because you don't want to break his confidence and hope he can turn it around.  Other then that the rest can go home or better be #'s 22 and 23 and never see the pitch unless we are up 4 goals.

 

[Ted Lange as your Bartender]

Gold Cup roster

GOALKEEPERS (3): 12-Sean Johnson (New York City FC; 7/0), 22-Tyler Miller (LAFC; 0/0), 1-Zack Steffen (Columbus Crew SC; 9/0)

DEFENDERS (8): 14-Tyler Adams (RB Leipzig/GER; 10/1), 3-Omar Gonzalez (Toronto FC/CAN; 50/3), 2-Nick Lima (San Jose Earthquakes; 3/0), 23-Aaron Long (New York Red Bulls; 5/0), 16-Daniel Lovitz (Montreal Impact/CAN; 4/0), 19-Matt Miazga (Chelsea/ENG; 13/1), 
13-Tim Ream (Fulham/ENG; 29/1), 5-Walker Zimmerman (LAFC; 6/2)

MIDFIELDERS (6): 4-Michael Bradley (Toronto FC/CAN; 145/17), 20-Duane Holmes (Derby County/ENG; 1/0), 8-Weston McKennie (Schalke/GER; 8/1), 10-Christian Pulisic (Chelsea/ENG; 25/10), 15-Cristian Roldan (Seattle Sounders FC; 10/0), 6-Wil Trapp (Columbus Crew SC; 16/0)

FORWARDS (6): 17-Jozy Altidore (Toronto FC/CAN; 110/41), 7-Paul Arriola (D.C. United; 22/3), 21-Tyler Boyd (Vitória Guimãres/POR; 0/0), 18-Jonathan Lewis (Colorado Rapids; 4/0), 11-Jordan Morris (Seattle Sounders FC; 27/5), 9-Gyasi Zardes (Columbus Crew SC; 44/7)

https://www.ussoccer.com/stories/2019/06/berhalter-names-2019-gold-cup-roster

 

[Worm]

Apparently Holmes made the impression he needed.

 

[Ramsay Hunt Experience]

And Opie didn’t. Little surprised Miles Robinson didn’t even get a look, TBH. Seems a much better fit for “the system” than Omar. 

 

[Ned]

Gold Cup roster

GOALKEEPERS (3): 12-Sean Johnson (New York City FC; 7/0), 22-Tyler Miller (LAFC; 0/0), 1-Zack Steffen (Columbus Crew SC; 9/0)

DEFENDERS (8): 14-Tyler Adams (RB Leipzig/GER; 10/1), 3-Omar Gonzalez (Toronto FC/CAN; 50/3), 2-Nick Lima (San Jose Earthquakes; 3/0), 23-Aaron Long (New York Red Bulls; 5/0), 16-Daniel Lovitz (Montreal Impact/CAN; 4/0), 19-Matt Miazga (Chelsea/ENG; 13/1), 
13-Tim Ream (Fulham/ENG; 29/1), 5-Walker Zimmerman (LAFC; 6/2)

MIDFIELDERS (6): 4-Michael Bradley (Toronto FC/CAN; 145/17), 20-Duane Holmes (Derby County/ENG; 1/0), 8-Weston McKennie (Schalke/GER; 8/1), 10-Christian Pulisic (Chelsea/ENG; 25/10), 15-Cristian Roldan (Seattle Sounders FC; 10/0), 6-Wil Trapp (Columbus Crew SC; 16/0)

FORWARDS (6): 17-Jozy Altidore (Toronto FC/CAN; 110/41), 7-Paul Arriola (D.C. United; 22/3), 21-Tyler Boyd (Vitória Guimãres/POR; 0/0), 18-Jonathan Lewis (Colorado Rapids; 4/0), 11-Jordan Morris (Seattle Sounders FC; 27/5), 9-Gyasi Zardes (Columbus Crew SC; 44/7)

https://www.ussoccer.com/stories/2019/06/berhalter-names-2019-gold-cup-roster

Vastly different crew than that ugly experiment last night.  No CCV and Sargent immediately jumps out at me.  Glad to see Lewis there.