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And Opie didn’t. Little surprised Miles Robinson didn’t even get a look, TBH. Seems a much better fit for “the system” than Omar. 
Berhalter has time and again stressed he wants the CB's to be able to break lines with their passing.   Gonzo simply can't do this.  He takes forever to make even the simplest of passes which kills the flow of the game.

 
I know Berhalter leans heavily to the "all positives" side of coaching but I really hope, when the cameras were off in the locker room that he told the players that level of effort is unacceptable and if seen again, players will not be called back.

His comment of the "pressure" got to some players in the poor performance last night is scary.  A friendly at home against a B level Concacaf team should not cause any sort of pressure imo.

 
Franco Panizo‏ @FrancoPanizo

Berhalter on Sargent's absence: "This was the most difficult decision we had to make. When Lletget went down we saw him as depth for attacking midfield and winger. When he got injured, it threw a wrench in our plans. We didn't feel we could carry three forwards anymore."

 
I know Berhalter leans heavily to the "all positives" side of coaching but I really hope, when the cameras were off in the locker room that he told the players that level of effort is unacceptable and if seen again, players will not be called back.

His comment of the "pressure" got to some players in the poor performance last night is scary.  A friendly at home against a B level Concacaf team should not cause any sort of pressure imo.
Pressure of making the team when youre on the bubble is real.   It’s a life goal for a lot of these guys.

 
I’m more disappointed that we didn’t get to see CCV, we knew who Gonzo was.   Feels like Berhalter wasted an opportunity.

 
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Pressure of making the team when youre on the bubble is real.   It’s a life goal for a lot of these guys.
I was talking about relative pressure.   If they thought it was a high pressure situation last night, what is it going to be like when they have to play a crucial match in qualifying on the road at some of the Concacaf hell holes where you are getting batteries thrown at you and urine bags and are just hoping to get out alive?

 
I’m more disappointed that we didn’t get to see CCV, we knew who Gonzo was.   
I was too disgusted by the second half to care, but I think CCV did get a run last night as a sub.

I guess every coach has a binky type player, but I just don't understand Gonzo from any aspect either.   This is not a position like striker where the well is dry, we have plenty of half way decent young CB's.  I am happy that both Long and Zimmerman made the squad.  I have no idea who Berhalter intends to start though.

 
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I was too disgusted by the second half to care, but I think CCV did get a run last night as a sub.

I guess every coach has a binky type player, but I just don't understand Gonzo from any aspect either.   This is not a position like striker where the well is dry, we have plenty of half way decent young CB's.  I am happy that both Long and Zimmerman made the squad.  I have no idea who Berhalter intends to start though.
CCV came in and immediately made a couple of errors. not exactly sparkling with confidence.

I'm assuming: Adams (ugh), Long, Mazda, Ream

 
Pressure of making the team when youre on the bubble is real.   It’s a life goal for a lot of these guys.
I was talking about relative pressure.   If they thought it was a high pressure situation last night, what is it going to be like when they have to play a crucial match in qualifying on the road at some of the Concacaf hell holes where you are getting batteries thrown at you and urine bags and are just hoping to get out alive?
exactly. at home against a USL team with nothing much on the line other than wanting to show you belong... lots of guys showed they didnt belong with the performances. and those are players I like, but cripes were they uniformly poor.

 
My guess on the Starting 11, not that I like it. Would rather see Lima at RB, Adams in for Bradley. And no desire to see Gonzo but he is going to use his nudes of someone high up in US Soccer to keep playing.

                                                                     Steffan

Adams                         Miazga                                                            Gonzalez                     Lovitz

                                                                     Bradley

Pulisic                                                       McKennie                                                               Roldan

                                      Altidore                                                              Zardes

 
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Franco Panizo‏ @FrancoPanizo

Berhalter on Sargent's absence: "This was the most difficult decision we had to make. When Lletget went down we saw him as depth for attacking midfield and winger. When he got injured, it threw a wrench in our plans. We didn't feel we could carry three forwards anymore."
I'm having a hard time keeping my pronouns straight in those first two sentences. was sargent a "he" or "him" in either of those, or was greg just talking about lletget?

 
I'm having a hard time keeping my pronouns straight in those first two sentences. was sargent a "he" or "him" in either of those, or was greg just talking about lletget?
It was poorly worded but I am almost certain he was talking about Lletget filling a couple of depth positions and as such they could not afford to take a single position player like Sargent.

 
My guess on the Starting 11, not that I like it. Would rather see Lima at RB, Adams in for Bradley.

                                                                     Steffan

Adams                         Miazga                                                            Gonzalez                     Lovitz

                                                                     Bradley

Pulisic                                                       McKennie                                                               Roldan

                                      Altidore                                                              Zardes
not sure about gonzo or lovitz. but not like long and ream instead change the team much (faster in the middle, slower out wide).

I don't want to see roldan out wide. I almost think he pushes in next to swag, and zardes plays on the flank instead, with jozy solo up top.

 
El Floppo said:
not sure about gonzo or lovitz. but not like long and ream instead change the team much (faster in the middle, slower out wide).

I don't want to see roldan out wide. I almost think he pushes in next to swag, and zardes plays on the flank instead, with jozy solo up top.
I don't want to see Gonzo either but as I added after the original post I think they'll play him based on whatever blackmail he has. I swear if Gonzo and Bradley play and they screw up the game I'm at Berhalter is going to hear me.

 
SwampDawg said:
My guess on the Starting 11, not that I like it. Would rather see Lima at RB, Adams in for Bradley.

                                                                     Steffan

Adams                         Miazga                                                            Gonzalez                     Lovitz

                                                                     Bradley

Pulisic                                                       McKennie                                                               Roldan

                                      Altidore                                                              Zardes
Pretty close to what my guess would be.   Here is my guess(with a pinch of hope regarding Holmes)

....................................................................Steffan

Adams .............................Miazga................................ Long..................Ream

                                                                     Bradley

Pulisic ..................................McKennie.........................Holmes..................Boyd

...................................................................Altidore      

I hope in the next friendly Berhalter puts out the vast majority of the starters he intends for the Gold Cup.  I can't take any more experimentation after all this time since Wet and Bumpy.

 
 I swear if Gonzo and Bradley play and they screw up the game I'm at Berhalter is going to hear me.
I normally lean towards giving a coach time but I think he is definitely going to catch a lot of heat if this scenario plays out.   Both of those players are on the severe down slope of their careers and it pains me to see the development minutes they are taking from younger players.

I am more ok with Bradley than Gonzo (since Trapp is clearly not an upgrade at this point) but many fans hate Bradley and that hate is going to go directly to Berhalter should things go poorly in the Gold Cup (say like 2015 type poorly).

 
Pretty close to what my guess would be.   Here is my guess(with a pinch of hope regarding Holmes)

....................................................................Steffan

Adams .............................Miazga................................ Long..................Ream

                                                                     Bradley

Pulisic ..................................McKennie.........................Holmes..................Boyd

...................................................................Altidore      

I hope in the next friendly Berhalter puts out the vast majority of the starters he intends for the Gold Cup.  I can't take any more experimentation after all this time since Wet and Bumpy.
would much rather see this- even if holmes and boyd are essentially unknowns at this point. or put Nips out wide in place of one of them.

I really don't feel like I need to see roldan again. or hear how he's such a hard worker. that should be the base-line starting point for all of these guys.

sucks that we're stuck with lovitz or ream at LB. all these years later, and its still LB.

 
 I swear if Gonzo and Bradley play and they screw up the game I'm at Berhalter is going to hear me.
I normally lean towards giving a coach time but I think he is definitely going to catch a lot of heat if this scenario plays out.   Both of those players are on the severe down slope of their careers and it pains me to see the development minutes they are taking from younger players.

I am more ok with Bradley than Gonzo (since Trapp is clearly not an upgrade at this point) but many fans hate Bradley and that hate is going to go directly to Berhalter should things go poorly in the Gold Cup (say like 2015 type poorly).
he's certainly not the answer going forward- but caillou (s'up, scoob) has been the best player on the field the last couple games he's played for the US.

I'd rather see a RB play RB, and finally let SwagAdams happen. but bearhalters gotta bearhalter.

 
Holmes is ready to go, never been more sure of anything in my life. 

Pretty meh on Berhalter so far, no? I'm not nearly as knowledgeable as a lot of you guys but this Adams at RB (false or no) seems like the dumbest thing ever. 

 
Why do you guys all hate Zardes?  He's going to be unstoppable with Pulisic on the field.

 
who is best suited to overtake Bradley in 2022?  Pomykal?
Adams as soon as Berhalter realizes that he might be the best US player ever at that spot.

Pomykal seems versatile but I think he would be wasted at the 6.  He has an attacking instinct we don't want to truncate (see last night for what it looks like with no half way decent natural attacking players on the field).

I think Pomykal and Weston, as @Scienceguy mentioned earlier, are more directly in competition later this cycle at an 8 like position.

 
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This is embarrassing.  Even RBL's twitter is wondering why Adams is being listed as a defender

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RB Leipzig English‏Verified account @RBLeipzig_EN

...as a defender?! Congrats on making the #USMNT @GoldCup squad, @tyler_adams14!

 
I'm already on the Berhalter hate train.  I'm sorry, but playing Adams out of position is just stupid.  He's already one of our best players and getting him time at his natural spot to get him comfortable should be simple sense.  Also, if Sargent was a bubble player coming in to this Gold Cup, then not sending him to the U20 was a huge mistake.  Unforgivable really.

 
Why do you guys all hate Zardes?  He's going to be unstoppable with Pulisic on the field.
I've always liked what Zardoz brings in terms of positives... pace, work-rate, good runs, flashes of good finishing, ability to link-up, decent in the air. lots and lots of positives. all wiped out by him zardozing his first or final touch a lot of the time. imagine the word "klonk" as a first touch. replace klonk with "zardoz" and there ya go. it's laughable how bad he can be. and yet- lots and lots of positives.

I'm already on the Berhalter hate train.  I'm sorry, but playing Adams out of position is just stupid.  He's already one of our best players and getting him time at his natural spot to get him comfortable should be simple sense.  Also, if Sargent was a bubble player coming in to this Gold Cup, then not sending him to the U20 was a huge mistake.  Unforgivable really.
where do I buy my tickets for this train?

I think we all like the tactic for games against Guyana (gulp... I hope) and other minnows that ends with the teams from the hex- because he's playing as holding mf, not a rb. but #### that noise if he's playing as an actual rb in even the most rudimentary way.

eta: and yeah- absolutely right about sargent. what a mind-#### for the kid... and for the fans. and I'd much rather have had sarge than rennicks. does he now tell him he's holding him for the oly squad? just shambolic.

 
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TripItUp said:
I’m more disappointed that we didn’t get to see CCV, we knew who Gonzo was.   Feels like Berhalter wasted an opportunity.
I've seen enough of CCV to know he really ain't that much better.

 
I'm already on the Berhalter hate train.  I'm sorry, but playing Adams out of position is just stupid.  He's already one of our best players and getting him time at his natural spot to get him comfortable should be simple sense.  .
it is especially frustrating to me because this is not Weston where his club team can't decide on his best position.

Two straight clubs teams have determined Adams is best in the midfield and the kid won a ton of well earned plaudits in the Bundesliga so I think we are past the "fluke" stage.

 
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Sorry I haven’t been able to do sneak previews for you guys to help me out on lately. Just pumpin things out.  Here’s my newest. Thoughts?
sounds like you have the pulse of our family here :)    You have probably noticed many of us saying similar things.

I am not a fan of the SUM conspiracy theory as I think it is dumber than dumb,  but the extremists seem to eat that stuff up so what do I know....

 

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