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US Men's National Team (54 Viewers)

Timmy and Swag at 3pm today.
I assume Timmy continues to start up top. I hope Swag gets off the bench... What a disaster this off-season has been for him.

Ldlt also at 3... I think somebody here said he wasn't part of their plans this year, so I'm hoping he gets shipped this week.
 
El Floppo said:
Timmy and Swag at 3pm today.
I assume Timmy continues to start up top. I hope Swag gets off the bench... What a disaster this off-season has been for him.

Ldlt also at 3... I think somebody here said he wasn't part of their plans this year, so I'm hoping he gets shipped this week.
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Weah got hurt last week, hamstring injury just before he scored and was subbed out at half time.

It is expected he will be out for a while but I have not heard an update since the first reports.
 
El Floppo said:
McBokonon said:
Weah not in the squad, McKennie on the bench.
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Good info... Happy to not feel compelled to watch live, at least until if/when swag subs in.

Watching Milan over the weekend about did me in. Woof.
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just checked... Juve up 3-0 in the 70th.

turning it on in the background in case Swag gets subbed in. so far no subs, if he doesn't... not a good sign.

eta: oops... Douglas Luiz just checked in. the guy that rendered swag basically obsolete.

eta 2: 2 more... LB, RB and LMF Luiz. No Swag. 83rd minute.

eta 3: and 2 more... no swag.
 
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NewlyRetired said:
posting not because they are US eligible, but more out of interest in case the families stay in the US long term

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Youth Soccer Central
@yscentral

Thiago Messi and Benjamin Suarez are officially in MLS Next. They are expected to compete in the U13 division, and are officially now apart of the MLS system
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Christiano Ronaldo Jr. was born in the US.......... :mellow: :mellow:



Obviously they'll never be their fathers and likely none will play for the US..... BUT THE DREAM IS THERE!!
 
El Floppo said:
NewlyRetired said:
I mean I really hate putting all my eggs in such a small basket, but my god does Cavan make it hard not to project how good he could be.

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What age group was that?

Stunning goal regardless.
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That is MLS Next Pro. There is no age limit but I think most of the players are 17-19 years old.

Cavan is the youngest player in the whole league I believe. He turns 15 very soon.
 
Nice!!!

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Tanner Tessmann (22 years old) becomes the new player of Olympique Lyonnais in exchange for approximately $6 million, coming from Venezia FC.

A perfect move at his age to gain minutes and experience in a competitive team that will play in Europe and continue to grow as a footballer.
 
Re: Gio...


“He has to accept his role and free himself from it,” Dortmund sporting director Sebastian Kehl said in an interview with Bild. It was clear when we held the talks in the summer that Gio wanted to take on this role. That there would be enough games where we would need him. We know that he has incredible skills.”

“Gio could become very important for us this season. There are no other thoughts. There’s nothing on the table and I haven’t heard that the player wants to leave. He worked on himself, worked on his stability, worked on his confidence. His clever movement between the lines and his goal threat, he’s developed that further.”
 
El Floppo said:
Re: Gio...


“He has to accept his role and free himself from it,” Dortmund sporting director Sebastian Kehl said in an interview with Bild. It was clear when we held the talks in the summer that Gio wanted to take on this role. That there would be enough games where we would need him. We know that he has incredible skills.”

“Gio could become very important for us this season. There are no other thoughts. There’s nothing on the table and I haven’t heard that the player wants to leave. He worked on himself, worked on his stability, worked on his confidence. His clever movement between the lines and his goal threat, he’s developed that further.”
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So play the man
 
The Z Machine said:
El Floppo said:
Re: Gio...


“He has to accept his role and free himself from it,” Dortmund sporting director Sebastian Kehl said in an interview with Bild. It was clear when we held the talks in the summer that Gio wanted to take on this role. That there would be enough games where we would need him. We know that he has incredible skills.”

“Gio could become very important for us this season. There are no other thoughts. There’s nothing on the table and I haven’t heard that the player wants to leave. He worked on himself, worked on his stability, worked on his confidence. His clever movement between the lines and his goal threat, he’s developed that further.”
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So play the man
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They did.
 
Slonina is on a tear. He was awarded the Carabao Cup player of the first round and had another great performance today against Sheffield United in the second round.
https://x.com/CFCLoanBot
The Barnsley match with Gaga Slonina has finished, he had a rating of 8.5, including 4 saves. Barnsley 1 - 0 Sheffield United
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Lots of good tweets from the https://x.com/BarnsleyFC account on his heroics today -
https://x.com/BarnsleyFC
@BarnsleyFC
96' Gaga Slonina rises excellently to collect a long ball from the halfway line by Auston Trusty.

@BarnsleyFC
80' Gaga steps up, displaying outstanding reflexes to tip Campbell's close-range effort onto the post. 1-0
 
CletiusMaximus said:
Slonina is on a tear. He was awarded the Carabao Cup player of the first round and had another great performance today against Sheffield United in the second round.
https://x.com/CFCLoanBot
The Barnsley match with Gaga Slonina has finished, he had a rating of 8.5, including 4 saves. Barnsley 1 - 0 Sheffield United
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Lots of good tweets from the https://x.com/BarnsleyFC account on his heroics today -
https://x.com/BarnsleyFC
@BarnsleyFC
96' Gaga Slonina rises excellently to collect a long ball from the halfway line by Auston Trusty.

@BarnsleyFC
80' Gaga steps up, displaying outstanding reflexes to tip Campbell's close-range effort onto the post. 1-0
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Outside of maybe Gio reaching his potential (which seems more and more a lost cause), there is probably no player we need more to pop in the next two years than Gaga.
 
NewlyRetired said:
there is probably no player we need more to pop in the next two years than Gaga
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Or one of the young GKs, and he seems like the most likely candidate.

Would not be at all shocked if Poch were to dip down into the younger keepers and make Turner the backup. Not predicting it, just saying starting young GKs has been done many times with top keepers and I think he's got the juice to do it in a way an American manager might not have.
 
Dinsy Ejotuz said:
NewlyRetired said:
there is probably no player we need more to pop in the next two years than Gaga
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Or one of the young GKs, and he seems like the most likely candidate.

Would not be at all shocked if Poch were to dip down into the younger keepers and make Turner the backup. Not predicting it, just saying starting young GKs has been done many times with top keepers and I think he's got the juice to do it in a way an American manager might not have.
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And let's be honest... turner hasn't exactly locked down the spot over the last year plus. So there's no real controversy in making the switch.
 
NewlyRetired said:
There is a rumor that Trusty may be sold to Celtic. if so that could set up a possibility of Trusty and CCV starting together as CB's.
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Rumor I saw was that Trustys move was dependent and contingent on CcV leaving for a bigger team... Although the teams I saw listed weren't so hot (turkey, France, etc).

Together would be cool though
 
Orange&Blue said:
haven't been paying attention....

do we like the new coach?
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There’s no telling how it will turn out but if you give this a grade I think anything other than an ‘A’ is just being a hater. There’s almost nothing to dislike here unless you think the USMNT was going to bring in a top Euro league or CL winner.

Just FYI - there’s not a ton of those floating around out there.
 
El Floppo said:
Haven't really heard much lately about Maloney or Lund... 2 guys id like to see more of.
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Disagree on both of these.

Lund has had a lot of call-ups vs other guys (Jones, Tolkin, Wiley). Given the charge of Payton Miller, I'm not sure any of them matter, but I'd like to see Tolkin given a chance rather than any more of Lund for now.

On Maloney, I'd rather see Tessmann, Pukstas, and Morris, all of whom are more likely to become starters over time. Maloney may well be better than any of them today, and maybe he works at CB, but he's got no realistic path to being a starter in the midfield ever.
 
prefontaine said:
El Floppo said:
Haven't really heard much lately about Maloney or Lund... 2 guys id like to see more of.
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Disagree on both of these.

Lund has had a lot of call-ups vs other guys (Jones, Tolkin, Wiley). Given the charge of Payton Miller, I'm not sure any of them matter, but I'd like to see Tolkin given a chance rather than any more of Lund for now.

On Maloney, I'd rather see Tessmann, Pukstas, and Morris, all of whom are more likely to become starters over time. Maloney may well be better than any of them today, and maybe he works at CB, but he's got no realistic path to being a starter in the midfield ever.
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Not sure what you're disagreeing about.

I'd like to see more of them. I've liked what I've seen of Lund, regardless of Tolkin. Didn't realize Lund has had more call-ups than those guys... Doesn't seem like it to me, but I don't pay attention to stats like that.

I've not really seen much at all of Maloney and like that he's a cog on a team that qualified for euros. He's only 24. I feel like Musah has been moving backwards and Johnny and Tessman haven't sold me yet from what I've seen of them for the US. So yes- I want to see more Maloney to get an idea of how he'd fit, if at all.

And mostly, I just haven't heard much about either, so wanted to hear more.
 
El Floppo said:
I'd like to see more of them. I've liked what I've seen of Lund, regardless of Tolkin. Didn't realize Lund has had more call-ups than those guys... Doesn't seem like it to me, but I don't pay attention to stats like that.
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I may be wrong but I don't think Tolkin ever had a call-up under Berhalter outside of January camp. I think the same may be true for Jones and Wiley. I believe Lund was called up to every camp after Berhalter's rehire (but Robinson played so much it's hard to remember).

Btw, not trying to criticize because both those guys may be worthwhile. I just feel like a lot of fringe guys got routine call-ups from Berhalter and there are a lot more than never really got chances and it seems now is the chance to do that.
 
This is very good news for a CB of that age

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Tom Bogert

@tombogert

Sources: Bournemouth make formal bid to D.C. United for USYNT center back Matai Akinmboni.

Bid below D.C.'s valuation. Window closes tomorrow night, so time for more talks.

Akinmboni, 17, already has 17 first team apps with D.C. Highly-rated talent
 
encaitar said:
NewlyRetired said:
I just shake my head saying it, as I never could have imagine uttering these words three years ago, but are we looking at the best US player "ever" at the club level at this point?

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If he continues playing like that.... gotta be in the conversation. Although if Pulisic continues his run in Serie A.... It could be a dogfight between the two..... which God I hope it is.
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On the surface, Pulisic is a better player IMO, but when you factor in the position of the players, I could make a good argument that over the past season+ that Jedi is much closer to the best LB in the EPL than Pulisic is to the best 10/winger in Serie A.

I also think, due to money, the depth of quality in the EPL is higher than Serie A making what Jedi has accomplished even more impressive.
 
NewlyRetired said:
I just shake my head saying it, as I never could have imagine uttering these words three years ago, but are we looking at the best US player "ever" at the club level at this point?
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He may have an argument by the time he's done. I think it's already between him and CP. Hopefully both of them play at a top level for another 6-8 years and it's a hard conversation.
 
NewlyRetired said:
This is very good news for a CB of that age

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Tom Bogert

@tombogert

Sources: Bournemouth make formal bid to D.C. United for USYNT center back Matai Akinmboni.

Bid below D.C.'s valuation. Window closes tomorrow night, so time for more talks.

Akinmboni, 17, already has 17 first team apps with D.C. Highly-rated talent
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NewlyRetired said:
Tom Bogert

@tombogert

Kristian Fletcher is undergoing his medical today ahead of a move to Nottingham Forest, I'm told
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I don't know either of these guys.

Are they set up in the US system?
 
NewlyRetired said:
encaitar said:
NewlyRetired said:
I just shake my head saying it, as I never could have imagine uttering these words three years ago, but are we looking at the best US player "ever" at the club level at this point?

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If he continues playing like that.... gotta be in the conversation. Although if Pulisic continues his run in Serie A.... It could be a dogfight between the two..... which God I hope it is.
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On the surface, Pulisic is a better player IMO, but when you factor in the position of the players, I could make a good argument that over the past season+ that Jedi is much closer to the best LB in the EPL than Pulisic is to the best 10/winger in Serie A.

I also think, due to money, the depth of quality in the EPL is higher than Serie A making what Jedi has accomplished even more impressive.
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Maybe... Serie A was the toughest league in the world last year according to UEFA coefficient. EPL was third. Yes, I agree they keep getting better due to money, but I also think they give up on guys too early too because they can just buy the next $100M 22 year old winger.

Also... while the Serie A has some of the best wingers in the world in their league I don't know if I'd count the EPL's LBs amongst the world's best. How many EPL LBs are in your world top 10? Maybe Gvardiol(if he is a LB)... Maybe Robertson? No one else IMO. Jedi benefits from a relative lack of talent at that position when he's making these lists IMO.... and that's not to say he's not been playing spectacularly. Just a counterpoint to the claim of Jedi being closer to the best LB in the EPL than Pulisic is to the best winger in Serie A.

Anyway, I'm just glad to be having a discussion about it. I hope there's still a real discussion/argument about who's better for years to come.
 
El Floppo said:
NewlyRetired said:
This is very good news for a CB of that age

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Tom Bogert
@tombogert

Sources: Bournemouth make formal bid to D.C. United for USYNT center back Matai Akinmboni.

Bid below D.C.'s valuation. Window closes tomorrow night, so time for more talks.

Akinmboni, 17, already has 17 first team apps with D.C. Highly-rated talent
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NewlyRetired said:
Tom Bogert
@tombogert

Kristian Fletcher is undergoing his medical today ahead of a move to Nottingham Forest, I'm told
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I don't know either of these guys.

Are they set up in the US system?
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Both born and raised in the US.

Akinmboni has been called into U17 camps but I don't see n his wiki that he has played a game for them.

Fletcher has played for the U19's.

Neither has played for any one else yet. Akinmboni can play for Nigeria or Ghana as well.

Fletcher has a British passport but I do not understand what that means for eligibility.
 
encaitar said:
NewlyRetired said:
encaitar said:
NewlyRetired said:
I just shake my head saying it, as I never could have imagine uttering these words three years ago, but are we looking at the best US player "ever" at the club level at this point?

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If he continues playing like that.... gotta be in the conversation. Although if Pulisic continues his run in Serie A.... It could be a dogfight between the two..... which God I hope it is.
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On the surface, Pulisic is a better player IMO, but when you factor in the position of the players, I could make a good argument that over the past season+ that Jedi is much closer to the best LB in the EPL than Pulisic is to the best 10/winger in Serie A.

I also think, due to money, the depth of quality in the EPL is higher than Serie A making what Jedi has accomplished even more impressive.
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Maybe... Serie A was the toughest league in the world last year according to UEFA coefficient. EPL was third. Yes, I agree they keep getting better due to money, but I also think they give up on guys too early too because they can just buy the next $100M 22 year old winger.

Also... while the Serie A has some of the best wingers in the world in their league I don't know if I'd count the EPL's LBs amongst the world's best. How many EPL LBs are in your world top 10? Maybe Gvardiol(if he is a LB)... Maybe Robertson? No one else IMO. Jedi benefits from a relative lack of talent at that position when he's making these lists IMO.... and that's not to say he's not been playing spectacularly. Just a counterpoint to the claim of Jedi being closer to the best LB in the EPL than Pulisic is to the best winger in Serie A.

Anyway, I'm just glad to be having a discussion about it. I hope there's still a real discussion/argument about who's better for years to come.
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agreed with all of that.

Note that I was talking about depth of quality between EPL and Serie A, not top end quality. The quality of the bottom 6 teams of Serie A are typically much lower caliber than the bottom 6 of the EPL (which are still usually loaded with international players because most of the bottom teams still have money to spend. In Serie A the bottom teams are typically broke (we even saw that Venezia could not afford a basic player like Tessman)).
 
NewlyRetired said:
I was looking at the latest US U17 roster and noticed a Chance Cowell from San Jose. I assume that must be Cade's brother.
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One that caught my eye is Landon Emenalo who’s at Chelsea. His dad is former Chelsea technical director Michael Emenalo, a Nigerian who went to school in the US and married an American woman. Landon was born in the US. It looks like he followed his dad to the Monaco youth program but then later returned and is now back in the Chelsea academy. He’s had callups for England youth teams and is surely also eligible for Nigeria.

www.chelseafc.com

Landon Emenalo

Landon Emenalo signed from our Under-8 programme and he was with us for two seasons before relocating to AS Monaco. However he returned back to Cobham as an Under-13.
www.chelseafc.com www.chelseafc.com
 
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