blake
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those are the breaks! i'd consider myself very, very lucky.
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Vincent Jackson to Report to Chargers October 31 (2 Viewers)
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Bandit
Footballguy
The trading deadline is next Tuesday, and assuming that Vincent Jackson badly wants to get traded, it's extremely stupid for him or his agent to announce now that he's going to report by October 31. In fact, it's so stupid that I'm skeptical. I wouldn't be surprised if this turns out to be only an NFLPA recommendation, and VJ and his agent annouce tomorrow that they're still planning to sit out the season.
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((Morpheus))
Footballguy
Of course he is. I waived his punk ### last night.
AJ probably already has a new incentive laden contract ready to go to ensure he tries hard. Bump him to a mil if they make the playoffs, up to 2 mil if they make the super bowl and original tender if they win it. AJ still wins in the end.
Agreed. It's a dynasty, so he was traded with the future in mind. Whose to say you got the better end anyway?
Someone else will have to help me out here, but IMO sitting out the year really isn't a very viable option. Jackson won't earn the service time he needs to be eligible for free agency if he sits out the entire season -- he'll be in the same situation next year, with the Chargers owning his rights and his FA delayed a year.Of course the expiration of the current CBA puts everything in limbo, but I believe under the current rules what I outlined is correct.
Football Critic
Footballguy
If he comes back week 12, thats too long to wait, not worth it now.
NinerFan49
Footballguy
http://www.rotoworld.com/CONTENT/Headlines...L&hl=186027
Mankins expected to report to Pats Nov. 16
Unsigned restricted free agent Logan Mankins will reportedly rejoin the Patriots by November 16.
Mankins and Vincent Jackson are caving on account of a recommendation from the NFLPA. The players must report in time for the final six games in order to guarantee they accrue another season toward unrestricted free agency. Both were restricted free agents per the uncapped year's CBA rules. Mankins is expected to play in the final seven games of the season. Oct. 13 - 11:03 pm et
Source: Chris Mortensen on Twitter
Mankins expected to report to Pats Nov. 16
Unsigned restricted free agent Logan Mankins will reportedly rejoin the Patriots by November 16.
Mankins and Vincent Jackson are caving on account of a recommendation from the NFLPA. The players must report in time for the final six games in order to guarantee they accrue another season toward unrestricted free agency. Both were restricted free agents per the uncapped year's CBA rules. Mankins is expected to play in the final seven games of the season. Oct. 13 - 11:03 pm et
Source: Chris Mortensen on Twitter
wudaben
Footballguy
This is the NFLPA who is announcing this, not VJ or his agent. While it is stupid to announce that you'll return it also is stupid to sit out the whole season and potentially be put in this same position again next season. Your earning years in this league are few and he'd be better served to just get it over with now so he can possibly get a multi year deal next season.
WiDDoW_MaKeR
Footballguy
Did anyone else notice that Jackson seemed to become extremely average as far as production went from week 10 on at the end of last year? To me... and I said it then... it seemed like Rivers already liked Floyd better. Not that Floyd did anything amazing down the stretch eitehr... it just seemed like Rivers was looking his way more on the deep ball. It seems to me that Rivers does just as good with Floyd as the #1 and I really wouldn't be surprised if they put Jackson at #2.
He isn't getting a long term deal from the Chargers regardless, so other teams will understand if he dogs it. I don't think it would hurt his contract status much if at all.
that's funny, i seem to recall 3 games where the chargers were driving late in the 4th for the go ahead/tying TD and couldn't punch it in
you can look it up ya kno?anyway, vjax didnt play week 17.from 10-16 vjax had more targets at 44 to 35. his production was 445 and 2tds vs 335 and 0 tds.the reason floyd was utilized more was obv bc they had shipped chris chambers out of town after week 8. combine chambers and floyds targets from weeks 1-9 and it comes 58. over that span vjax had 63.
WiDDoW_MaKeR
Footballguy
I know.. and I wasn't just talking about general number of targets. I am talking about watching the games... seeing who the QB is eyeballing on most of the plays... even if he doesn't throw it that way. I think that Vjax's production when downhill big time during that span... outside of the ONE game that he went over 100 yards and caught both of those 2 TDsm, and another when he went over 100.The rest of his stats during that span were....1-104-562-272-545-70With no touchdowns.... That is a huge drop-off for a guy who started off in the first 9 games having went 42-722 with 7 TDs.It seemed to be that when Floyd took over for Chambers.... Floyd became the deep threat and took that away from VJax. Also, as soon as VJax was out of the lineup in week 17.... Floyd stepped up into the #1 spot and caught 9 for 140.
Mr. PadresLakers
Footballguy
One would think being unequivocally wrong would have inspired you to sit this one out, but here you are again with the conspiracy theories that have no logical basis in reality. Why do you think Randy Moss was traded for a mere 4th round pick three years ago? Where were all the teams that would excuse his effort level (since it was just for the Raiders) to drive up his price on the open market? Can you remember any other professional athlete that decided "not trying" was a good strategy to take before his first major contract?
WiDDoW_MaKeR
Footballguy
If you would have actually took the time to read my post, you would have seen that I mentioned both of those games in the regular season. I clearly pointed out his stats down the stretch BESIDES those two games... just like I said I was doing in the post. If you don't see the big drop off, I really don't know what to tell you.
its kinda funny that you emphasized ONE in all caps and then threw in another game.
and, you really cant tell me anything bc your analysis and perspective is completely lol. sorry i misread your post that you seemed to have made intionally deceptive in formatting. he had 4 mediocre to bad games that happened to come in a row. on noes better be as reactionary as possible. im sure the obv conclusion is that a wr that put up 198 yards and 0 tds over those 4 games has usurped the no1 spot.
then ofc you should also completely dismiss that vjax went over 100 yards in 3 of his next 4 games (70 in his weaker game), one of which was a playoff game against the best pass defense in the league and the other against a good bengals secondary.
and, you really cant tell me anything bc your analysis and perspective is completely lol. sorry i misread your post that you seemed to have made intionally deceptive in formatting. he had 4 mediocre to bad games that happened to come in a row. on noes better be as reactionary as possible. im sure the obv conclusion is that a wr that put up 198 yards and 0 tds over those 4 games has usurped the no1 spot.
then ofc you should also completely dismiss that vjax went over 100 yards in 3 of his next 4 games (70 in his weaker game), one of which was a playoff game against the best pass defense in the league and the other against a good bengals secondary.
WiDDoW_MaKeR
Footballguy
I never said that VJax was in danger of losing his #1 spot based on last year. What I said was that Jackson's production had a huge dropoff at the end of last year after Floyd came in. So, that... coupled with the fact that Jax is unhappy... has management that clearly dislikes him now... has not even practiced with the team... and is going to miss the first 10 games of the season. Add that all to the fact that Malcom Floyd has stepped up and filled the #1 role great, and seems to be getting more and more in tune with Rivers and vice versa.... and I am supposed to jump for joy at VJax's return for the last 5 games of my fantasy football season? You don't think that it's possible VJax doesn't jump right into the #1 spot? Considering the fact that VJax clearly won't even be a Charger next year anyways? After the way the Chargers played hard ball just to screw him over even if it hurts themselves? I really don't see any brightside to VJax the rest of the year if he doesn't get traded to a team in desperate need of a #1 receiver... who Jackson actually wants to play for. My point is that I don't think that Jackson will be worth much fantasy football wise this year. I drafted him in 3 money leagues this year in the hopes that he got traded.... but it didn't happened. I dropped him in all three, and he is still on the wire in all three. It's your logic that is "lol". You seem to think that Jackson didn't drop off down the stretch last year... despite the facts... and you also seem to think that he is just going to be some knight in shining armor to SD, who's pass offense is the best in the league right now without him. Also that somehow... VJax amidst all of this controversy, anger, frustration, and lack of respect between himself and the Chargers organization.... that they are going to welcome this man back with open arms and he is just going to go buck wild, take away, and replace the great production that Floyd and Gates are giving SD right now. You also like to skip through posts without reading them... and then make yourself look silly by saying that I left out something that I clearly mentioned. BTW... I put "ONE" in all caps... because I was pointing the fact that it was the ONLY game that he scored a TD in... which he scored 2. I don't know about your leagues... but TD's seem to be pretty important in every league that I play in.... and they are all PPR too. Tell me something... if what they have now is good enough to give them the best passing offense in the league... and VJax isn't even going to be there next year... exactly WHY would the Chargers unseed their #1 WR for this year and the future for a guy who missed the first 10 games of the season... didn't even practice... won't be on the team next year... and on horrible terms with management? Especially when that #1 WR is producing great and in sync with the QB?Obviously you have a huge bias. If I were to guess... you are struggling at WR this year on your FF team(s) and have VJax stashed... hoping that he can be your savior.
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can i dismiss your whole point as a worried floyd owner? i wont, bc thats atrocious logic and i dont really care who you own or what your motivations are. ive railed against that stupid notion that is prevalent on this forum.
yet the numbers dont show that. well, i guess they do if you throw out 4 of 8 games. why did you fail to mention week 9 of that year? chambers didnt play and floyd was the no2. oh i kno, its bc vjax had a great game.
its certainly possible. decent chance really. but it sure as hell aint bc he "had a huge dropoff at the end of last year."
oh this again. ok chambers gets traded prior to week 9 and floyd is now the no2. from week 9 thru the playoffs vjax puts up 614 and 4 tds over 9 games. prorate to 1091 and 7. sounds ok to me. what you dont realize is that there are fluctuations in production for all players. i am positive i could cherrypick 2, 4, 6, 9 game stretches from all players were they performed slightly worse or much worse than expected or desired. i could just as easily cherrypick the last 4 games that vjax played where he put up 409 and 2 tds. prorates to 1636 and 8. im pretty sure floyd was healthy right and the no2 right?google selective endpoints
google strawman argument.my only contention was with your assertion that vjax was "mediocre" when floyd came on. he wasnt. the numbers prove he wasnt. unless you think 1k and 7 is mediocre. i have made no mention of what i think vjax will do when he returns or how they will utilize him.like i said above, sorry i misread your post. you seem to be taking it deeply personal. you are being very argumentative and aggressive and im really not sure why. you also seem to be reading things in my posts i did not say or even imply.
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WiDDoW_MaKeR
Footballguy
A worried Floyd owner? I am in 4 leagues... I only own Malcom Floyd in one... I don't start him and don't plan to unless my guys ahead of him get injured. I actually had Jackson in more leagues than Floyd.
Put it this way... I would be amazed if VJax comes back for the last 5 weeks of Fantasy football and produces like a #1 WR... if he is in a Chargers uniform. Not because he doesn't have the talent, but because his talent isn't exactly needed (considering they are the #1 passing offense in the league without him), and he also has everything else already mentioned going against him, other than fresh legs. I really don't see how it would help SD, or make any sense to completely overhaul their offense in an effort to re-establish Vincent Jackson as their #1 WR for the end of the season... when they are #1 without him, he isn't going to be there next year, he has missed 10 games, hasn't practiced, and is on horrible terms with management. Let alone how his own teammates (Rivers included) might feel about the fact that he so clearly doesn't want to play with them. Factor all of that in with the fact that we don't even know how Jackson himself is going to WANT to be utilized if he does come back. He may have no intentions on giving his best for that organization, or wanting to be involved to his fullest potential and risk an injury for that team.
BTW... I never once said that Jackson was going to be uprooted from his #1 spot based on his second half of the season last year. I pointed out that he had a big dropoff from game 10 on in the regular season... and he did. I clearly have listed the reasons that I now think that he won't regain the #1 WR in SD.
Put it this way... I would be amazed if VJax comes back for the last 5 weeks of Fantasy football and produces like a #1 WR... if he is in a Chargers uniform. Not because he doesn't have the talent, but because his talent isn't exactly needed (considering they are the #1 passing offense in the league without him), and he also has everything else already mentioned going against him, other than fresh legs. I really don't see how it would help SD, or make any sense to completely overhaul their offense in an effort to re-establish Vincent Jackson as their #1 WR for the end of the season... when they are #1 without him, he isn't going to be there next year, he has missed 10 games, hasn't practiced, and is on horrible terms with management. Let alone how his own teammates (Rivers included) might feel about the fact that he so clearly doesn't want to play with them. Factor all of that in with the fact that we don't even know how Jackson himself is going to WANT to be utilized if he does come back. He may have no intentions on giving his best for that organization, or wanting to be involved to his fullest potential and risk an injury for that team.
BTW... I never once said that Jackson was going to be uprooted from his #1 spot based on his second half of the season last year. I pointed out that he had a big dropoff from game 10 on in the regular season... and he did. I clearly have listed the reasons that I now think that he won't regain the #1 WR in SD.
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WiDDoW_MaKeR
Footballguy
What's the point? He still had a big dropoff. He went from being extremely productive on a consistent basis... the main deep threat... and a touchdown machine..... to catching less passes, a big drop in touchdowns... and was no longer the main deep threat on the team. Like I said... it's a big dropoff. Especially for his fantasy season... which is why we post here. I owned him last year... and the year before that. I watched just about all of their games and I noticed a big difference in the way that Jackson was used after they put Floyd on the other side. It seemed like the few deep passes that Floyd would catch every game had a direct impact on VJax's production. Rivers had another guy to go to, who actually caught the ball... unlike Chambers. It seemed like almost every time a deep ball was thrown... whether it was completed or not... it was in Floyd's direction. Jackson had to get YAC to get a long reception. It also seemed to be during that period of time when Gates reclaimed his status as the go to man in the red zone. He caught 6 touchdown passes in the last 6 games of the regular season... after only having caught 2 in the first 10 games.... both in the same game. Something which he has held onto with a deathgrip and would also cripple Jacksons' FF numbers if he would return... and play.
If Jackson returned, and started... either as a #1 or #2. I think that Gates would continue to be the best receiving option on the team, and that Jackson and Floyd would would both be shaky starts, not knowing who might have a decent day between the two.
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Sabertooth
Footballguy
Glad I held on to him in dynasty. And just in time for the fantasy playoffs to boot.
ROBOPUNTER
Footballguy
Sincerely or not, both of these guys will get injured pretty quickly. I don't think there is much to see here.
Sir Chadwick
Footballguy
Not worth stashing on my 5-man bench if he isn't coming back until week 12. I always bench players until they show they can produce so that means I'd most likely only use him in the playoffs. Think I'll just ride Floyd out here and take my chances w/ someone who has already proven himself this year. I need to have an expendable spot on my bench for emergencies and bye weeks and adding VJax would just add to my headache.
geoff8695
Footballguy
I agree with the premise, but not your conclusion.It's actually not in his best interests to play a single down of live action before he signs a big new contract. I will be completely shocked if he appears in another game for the Chargers, and risks missing out on a very big payday.
FUBAR
Footballguy
in time for FF playoffs and I definitely need him in one of the two leagues I have him (thanks for caring)Redraft, I'd have to drop Brandon Tate for him. Return yards count, so I'm inclined not to do it. Short benches and we only start 2 WRs and a flex, White/Nicks/DJax are my guys right now.
Tau837
Footballguy
Why? Are you saying this because of the risk of a long term injury? If he strains a hamstring or turns an ankle, that won't affect his long term value.IMO teams will take it as a negative if he returns to the team but chooses not to give his best down the stretch for his team that is (hopefully) fighting to make the playoffs. Whereas on the flip side, if he does that and plays well, and the Chargers make the playoffs and especially if they win a game or two, IMO he could get a boost above where his value already is today.
FUBAR
Footballguy
if Randy Moss's value was hurt by his lack of concern for the team, we can guarantee VJax's would be even more.
two_dollars
Footballguy
Floyd owner here, drafted him to get me through bye weeks.. so it's not influencing my opinion much.
I do think it will hurt Floyd when VJax comes back. I also do not think VJax is going to step in and put up 25 points a game. Floyd will still get some, Gates will still get a lot, and VJax will get some too. I don't think he becomes a "stud" but serviceable. We will be just as likely to see 4 for 50 as we will be to see 8 for 130 and a TD. Just like he has always been in the past, but a bit less with more talent around him.
Will he be anyone's savior? Maybe.. if your playoff game is when he happens to have one of his good games. But it is far from guaranteed.
I do think it will hurt Floyd when VJax comes back. I also do not think VJax is going to step in and put up 25 points a game. Floyd will still get some, Gates will still get a lot, and VJax will get some too. I don't think he becomes a "stud" but serviceable. We will be just as likely to see 4 for 50 as we will be to see 8 for 130 and a TD. Just like he has always been in the past, but a bit less with more talent around him.
Will he be anyone's savior? Maybe.. if your playoff game is when he happens to have one of his good games. But it is far from guaranteed.
The_U
Footballguy
AJ needs to quit being so damn stubborn and trade him. The relationship is destroyed and with Floyd looking the part of a #1, who cares? I think he'll play OK if he actually reports - takes the advice of the NFLPA - and is finally allowed on the field.
Now as to whether AJ plays hardball and tells Norv to let the little baby report and just have the best seat in the house for every game remains to be seen and with AJ Smith and his yes man, anything is possible. Remember, just because Jackson reports - if he reports - the Chargers are not required to play him one minute of game time. They can very well let him suit up and stand on the sidelines and if there is one franchise (GM) in the NFL I would not put this past, it is AJ Smith and HIS San Diego Chargers.
That said I would absolutely roster him if I had the room and did not need to cut anyone I am actually counting on.
Now as to whether AJ plays hardball and tells Norv to let the little baby report and just have the best seat in the house for every game remains to be seen and with AJ Smith and his yes man, anything is possible. Remember, just because Jackson reports - if he reports - the Chargers are not required to play him one minute of game time. They can very well let him suit up and stand on the sidelines and if there is one franchise (GM) in the NFL I would not put this past, it is AJ Smith and HIS San Diego Chargers.
That said I would absolutely roster him if I had the room and did not need to cut anyone I am actually counting on.
fruity pebbles
Footballguy
VJax would love that. Be the absolute best scenario for him. Gets his year of service, gets 600K and doesnt risk injury
The_U
Footballguy
Must agree. BUT, as we're in a FF forum, I'm saying it's something to be aware of as you're pondering dropping the Steve Johnsons of the world to acquire him.I have very little interest - neither abundantly vested in FF nor as a fan of the Bolts - in Vincent Jackson's case. I think he's a talented receiver but an absolute tool with some serious personality issues (shocking in a WR, I know). I think AJ Smith is actually more deranged than Vincent Jackson to boot. They've both made an absolute mess of a situation that did not need to be so disastrous.
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If Vincent Jackson wants the big contract he has to get on the field play hard and and play well to show he desrves the big contract. Anything else will make his value go down.
If the Chargers refuse to play him, that means they either have 3 wr's on the team better than him or that Archie Manning was right and the Chargers aren't committed to winning football games.
I pray that he shows up in shape and that his relationship with Rivers is still good.
If the Chargers refuse to play him, that means they either have 3 wr's on the team better than him or that Archie Manning was right and the Chargers aren't committed to winning football games.
I pray that he shows up in shape and that his relationship with Rivers is still good.
I haven't seen that but I have admittedly developed less and less of an interest in Jackson the last several weeks and become almost numb of it all.These long ugly holdouts and the predictability of eventual injuries has always been a grrr thing for FF though. IMO The best move for FF is getting him off the WW and trading him.
That's what's funny about all of this. He's not even an elite WR. He's had a couple good years in an offense where the #1 WR will put up good numbers. It's expected to put up good numbers in that offense.I'm not saying for sure that he's worse than Floyd....I just find his whole diva mentality funny.
He can't get to that big payday until he plays though. If he sits the entire year, he remains in the same spot for next year too.
geoff8695
Footballguy
Pro football is an incredibly violent sport, and risking a serious injury when a guaranteed pay day is around the corner is illogical. Especially more so when you consider the bad blood brewing between VJ & AJ, which potentially adds 'insult to injury'. I'm sure you'ld like nothing more than to see the Chargers get a boost to what is already a very good offense by getting back their top WR. As a football fan (and one who adopted the Chargers during the Coryell era) I too would love to see Jackson playing again this season. Unfortunately, the cold realist in me just doesn't see that happening...Jackson doesn't need any boost in value, as he's already a proven commodity. In fact his value is so high that just a few weeks ago teams were willing to sign him to a multi-million dollar contract, as well as give up a 2nd round pick. I suspect the Rams, Seahawks, Redskins, Vikings, or whoever held interest in Vincent Jackson in 2010, will still feel the same way in 2011, and with the added bonus that he won't cost them ANY additional draft picks.
We also know that despite any loyalty VJ may feel to teammates, he's as good as gone already, the feud with Chargers brass has become "personal", and VJ holds AJ Smith personally responsible for costing him millions of dollars right now and a lost season of peak earnings potential. VJ and his agent have already talked about "sticking it" back to AJ by structuring base salary in the initial season of his next contract in such a way that a compensatory pick would fall from a likely 3rd, down to a 6th or 7th rounder. At this point VJ isn't going to just forgive and forget and stop resenting...
I also suspect VJ will keep his mouth shut moving forward, sign whatever he has to, and ensure the Chargers can't prevent him from a big pay day again next season. I also think he will do the smart thing by not publicly disclosing his intentions of never playing another down for the Chargers in a live game, or his strategies for avoiding being 'activated' on gamedays. Maybe he will have injuries, migraines, whatever it takes to be sure that SD doesn't activate him for any game... It doesn't matter, because in the end A FAR BIGGER NEGATIVE for VJ would be to risk tens of millions of future dollars by playing and getting injured while only getting paid somewhere between two and three hundred thousand for the last six games of 2010.
NCPanthersFan
Footballguy
If you have the room you are already eyeballing a playoff spot, I do not see the downside of letting him use a spot on the bench.
fruity pebbles
Footballguy
He passes the eyeball test for me.
What's a free agent receiver with a pulse worth? Nate Burleson got 5 years 25 million from Detroit, for crying out loud. Look at the money Cincy threw at Coles and Bryant. The only reason for him to show up is to secure free agency, and while his value may decline if he totally tanks it, its hard to envision him getting less than 7 mill a year next year.
Mr. PadresLakers
Footballguy
What do you think faking injuries or refusing to play would do to his market value? Do you really think other teams are big fans of guys that won't honor their contracts? What happens when he decides to do the same thing with his new team? Do you think owners/gm don't consider that?
The Chargers will decide who plays split end and who plays flanker. (Jackson was split end last year; Floyd is so far this year.) From there, it's really up to the defense to decide who is #1 and #2. I would define the #1 WR as the guy the defense rolls its coverages to. Rivers will throw to whoever is open.
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There are two ideas I don't think are worth taking seriously. (1) That Jackson will dog it out of spite; or (2) that the Chargers will bench him out of spite.
The business side of things is separate from the football side of things. Once Jackson reports, the coaches and players will welcome him back with open arms, and Jackson will play as hard as he always has.
The business side of things is separate from the football side of things. Once Jackson reports, the coaches and players will welcome him back with open arms, and Jackson will play as hard as he always has.
geoff8695
Footballguy
Nothing. His market value is already set, regardless of whether he plays another down this season. Best of all those teams that are interested in him don't have to give up ANY compensation.NFL teams fail to honor contracts all the time, by cutting players before their contracts are fulfilled. How do you think players feel about it? It's a non-issue.Do you really think after being denied the chance to sign a multi-million dollar deal with a new team and having AJ rub his nose in it, that VJ is going to risk tens of millions of dollars just to play out the last 6 games of 2010 for a couple hundred thousand?Do you really think VJ is going to refuse to play once he gets the big pay day he's been patiently waiting for? The only reason he's hasn't been playing this season is because his market value exceeds what AJ is offering him. Nothing has or will change on that front until he gets out from under the RFA status, NFL owners/GMs understand that perfectly well.
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geoff8695
Footballguy
I agree that if he sees the field this year, he will play hard for his teammates and for his professional pride. I just respectfully disagree with you that it's worth it for him to do so. Hence, I believe he will quietly go about the business of making sure he isn't available to be activated on game days, and that his teammates will understand his motivations for doing so. It's a player vs. management/ownership issue, and the business side of things demonstrates the lack of loyalty franchises have towards players and contracts. IMO this will simply be the only recourse VJ has to exercise his own business decision for 2010.
Touchdown There
Footballguy
I am of the opinion that this is not over. Vincent Jackson's camp has not confirmed that he will play.
In addition, why would the Chargers change something that is not broken? I just checked my main PPR league for his stats, and Floyd is the #8 overall WR. It seems to me that he has filled Jackson's roster spot with relative ease. Floyd is playing just as well as Vincent Jackson did last year. AJ Smith has proved that the Chargers do not need him and his contract demands were over the top.
I do not see the coaching decision to bench Floyd. It is probably a time share that is going to kill fantasy owners of both Floyd and Vincent Jackson.
In addition, why would the Chargers change something that is not broken? I just checked my main PPR league for his stats, and Floyd is the #8 overall WR. It seems to me that he has filled Jackson's roster spot with relative ease. Floyd is playing just as well as Vincent Jackson did last year. AJ Smith has proved that the Chargers do not need him and his contract demands were over the top.
I do not see the coaching decision to bench Floyd. It is probably a time share that is going to kill fantasy owners of both Floyd and Vincent Jackson.
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