Willie Neslon
Footballguy
The 10k would cover the whole team, not just his kid.
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Wealthy friend of friend asking others to fund son's sports trip (1 Viewer)
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Ron Swanson
Footballguy
Advance fee scam him.
Mrs. Rannous
Footballguy
Samoas and Iced Lemonades here.
Beef Ravioli Part 2
Footballguy
Any update on this @Willie Neslon? Did you respond? Did you buy?
Willie Neslon
Footballguy
I just ignored him. Didn't respond. I heard it didn't fill but I don't know exactly how many boxes were unsold.
Ron Popeil
Footballguy
DA RAIDERS
Footballguy
I do this with The kids that I know from my neighborhood. I ask if we can make a deal. How about I give you $10 and I get nothing. Deal?
He isn't taking a cut. It is strictly a fundraiser for a team. That is different then a bookie taking 10% of the squares pool because he is running it. You know going in it's for a fundraiser. Totally different circumstances.
Now for this particular case asking a barely acquaintance to fork over $200 is a bit much but that has more to do with the relation and the square purchase price. Not the fact that it is a fundraiser for a sports team.
Is the outrage because the guy is a millionaire? Is it because he sent a personal follow up request? Is it because the square value was too high?
Based on most of the responses the outrage is over the millionaire status of the guy asking. I get that to some degree, but I don't think the inquiry is an issue. You can always say you aren't interested. Fundraising sucks but it's part of the process. Kids sports teams are very expensive. Most teams do fundraiser events. It sucks as a parent to do these and many times you always seem to go to the same people over and over.
I hated fundraisers that gave away stupid things that nobody wants. I didn't mind fundraisers like this. I do square pools anyway. Why not do it for a fundraiser for a team? I do agree the square value was way too high for most people. We did one that was $50 and had no problem selling them. In fact, most acquaintances and friends would come to me each year asking if we were doing the squares fundraiser. My circle of people like to gamble on the Super Bowl. It was easy to sell.
The other aspect is the request should have been from the kid himself. Not the parent. I would be much more inclined to donate if the request came from the kid. Part of this process is teaching the kid how to converse with people and this helps with that.
In this group I am shocked so many people were outraged over being asked if you wanted to buy a Super Bowl Square. I would think 90% of the people on a football message board participated in some sort of Super Bowl gambling. Why is it an issue to do it for a team that was trying to raise money? Even with the second personal email? If you aren't interested just say you are already in too many pools and be done. It's not hard or insulting.
And for those thinking that $10K is a lot for a tournament cost it goes quick when you have 12-15 players, travel expenses (maybe airfare if it's a big tourney like Cooperstown) and even cheap hotels aren't cheap. But I will say that the fundraising should be for player rooms (4 kids to a room - depending on age group) and coach rooms. Not for the family. Same with airfare. Players/coach tickets only. Not parents and family.
Based on most of the responses the outrage is over the millionaire status of the guy asking. I get that to some degree, but I don't think the inquiry is an issue. You can always say you aren't interested. Fundraising sucks but it's part of the process. Kids sports teams are very expensive. Most teams do fundraiser events. It sucks as a parent to do these and many times you always seem to go to the same people over and over.
I hated fundraisers that gave away stupid things that nobody wants. I didn't mind fundraisers like this. I do square pools anyway. Why not do it for a fundraiser for a team? I do agree the square value was way too high for most people. We did one that was $50 and had no problem selling them. In fact, most acquaintances and friends would come to me each year asking if we were doing the squares fundraiser. My circle of people like to gamble on the Super Bowl. It was easy to sell.
The other aspect is the request should have been from the kid himself. Not the parent. I would be much more inclined to donate if the request came from the kid. Part of this process is teaching the kid how to converse with people and this helps with that.
In this group I am shocked so many people were outraged over being asked if you wanted to buy a Super Bowl Square. I would think 90% of the people on a football message board participated in some sort of Super Bowl gambling. Why is it an issue to do it for a team that was trying to raise money? Even with the second personal email? If you aren't interested just say you are already in too many pools and be done. It's not hard or insulting.
And for those thinking that $10K is a lot for a tournament cost it goes quick when you have 12-15 players, travel expenses (maybe airfare if it's a big tourney like Cooperstown) and even cheap hotels aren't cheap. But I will say that the fundraising should be for player rooms (4 kids to a room - depending on age group) and coach rooms. Not for the family. Same with airfare. Players/coach tickets only. Not parents and family.
Mookie
Footballguy
I voted annoyed but might buy. It's a fundraiser for the team apparently, not just his kid. It's way too much (this is because rich people are usually deaf as to what others can afford), but I like to support local youth and always buy the Christmas wreath, the cookies, the poinsettias, and whatever else - it's keeping them out of trouble and I want to be viewed as a community partner. It would annoy me and it's tacky and too expensive, but I'd probably buy.
bigbottom
Footballguy
I’m not outraged by any of it. But if this is a team fundraiser for, say 15 kids, that’s less than seven squares per kid that needs to be sold. The fact that the squares had been for sale for two weeks and only 32 squares had been sold a day before the Super Bowl makes it clear that the boxes were priced too high. My other observations, none of which outrage me, are as follows:
- I think there is a distinction between asking for a donation to a legitimate charity (which is also tax deductible) and asking for contributions to a fundraiser to defray costs for voluntary extracurricular activities that would otherwise be paid by the parents involved. I don’t have an issue with adults soliciting acquaintances for the former, but the latter should be reserved for friends and family (or for solicitations made by the kid going door to door), when the ask is at this level ($200 or more).
- Given the above, I wouldn’t have asked a bunch of acquaintances over text to help defray costs for my kids travel team. Not a big deal that he did, but not something I would do personally. (And I’m not someone who is disinclined to fundraise for charitable causes.)
- Sending the follow up email to an individual acquaintance to call them out for not participating is where I think it crosses the line into inappropriateness. Doesn’t outrage me, but mildly annoying and poor form. With respect to this part (harassing an acquaintance), I do think the fact that the guy is a millionaire makes a difference (i.e., making it more annoying/inappropriate).
SWC
Bromigo
my thing is this is travel ball is travel ball everyone who goes into travel ball knows or should know that it is going to cost money so a millionaire trying to raise money for his sons travel ball team strikes me a pretty crazy now on the other hand if this was a poor school district that didnt have funding for athletics and was trying to raise money for a permanent hitting net system that would be in the gym and aid kids at that school for the foreseeable future id be all over it because that is a worthy cause but man a millionaire who wants me to pay for something i had to struggle to pay for my own kids to do and then folloiwng up with me like im some sort of bum for not paying for his kid brother man no way amigo take that to the bank brochachos
SWC
Bromigo
i feel like i have seen a ghost take that to the bank spockmigo
Willie Neslon
Footballguy
He is not really a "friend". Just someone I know through someone else who is on a text group. More like an acquaintance.
Something I left out of my original post is that after Richie sent the initial email, a few of my actual friends responded positively and bought a square. Their enthusiasm made me feel a little guilty for not sharing their excitement, or for not being enthusiastic at all. That feeling influenced the tone of my post, which in hindsight comes across as a bit leading.
Brunell4MVP
Footballguy
I guess I'd donate $100 for the team expenses and tell him I don't need a square. I tend to donate to people I know rather than grandiose clauses though. So since I know him I guess I'd give something. Feels like a donation to the Human Fund though.
I'm also amazed by how many people I donate to that don't reciprocate in some fashion. Like the girl scouts in our hood. I buy cookies and take them to the office so I don't eat them. How about a thank you email? And the swim teams around here. Like hey, about a free day at your swimming pool for those that donated. But they never offer a thing back. Seems like it's a one way ticket with money going out.
Manster
Footballguy
We did a SB squares fundraiser for my son's baseball team. BUT $20 per square, 100 squares total. So $1000 to the team, and $1000 in prizes. It's a cool fundraiser because people have a chance to win some $$.....the money will be used to pay for a tournament buy in, or two...we are trying to build up some money for cool things for the boys. Maybe help a family if they need a little cash.....this is a communtity JBO league. We are not some fancy travel team ....we do however play those teams, and sometimes we beat em!
At least one of the winners gave the money back to the team in ours.....which can be typical I think.
The $200 buy in is exorbitant........but the way these things work isn't just someone buys up all the squares. Where's the fun in that?
So, in conclusion, this sounds like one of those fancy, super expensive travel clubs.......they should not be asking people to spend $200 to fund their choice to put their kid on an expensive sports team....that's the tacky part.
As for the rich guy, he should sponsor the team. Maybe put his businesses name on the jerseys, or have a banner. He can write that **** off anyway.
Oh yea, I forgot to mention ours filled up, and quickly.
At least one of the winners gave the money back to the team in ours.....which can be typical I think.
The $200 buy in is exorbitant........but the way these things work isn't just someone buys up all the squares. Where's the fun in that?
So, in conclusion, this sounds like one of those fancy, super expensive travel clubs.......they should not be asking people to spend $200 to fund their choice to put their kid on an expensive sports team....that's the tacky part.
As for the rich guy, he should sponsor the team. Maybe put his businesses name on the jerseys, or have a banner. He can write that **** off anyway.
Oh yea, I forgot to mention ours filled up, and quickly.
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General Malaise
Footballguy
Is this thread inspired by Alyssa Milano? Seems like the same situation....wealthy actress worth millions sets up a Go Fund Me for her son's baseball team? Pretty sure this is fake.
Willie Neslon
Footballguy
It's not. Thanks.
General Malaise
Footballguy
Boy, the similarities are uncanny then! https://www.nbcnews.com/pop-culture...me-seeking-donations-sons-baseball-rcna136000
Willie Neslon
Footballguy
This was not a go fund me.
gianmarco
Footballguy
Free tomorrow at 4pm? Expect a couple calls.
General Malaise
Footballguy
You should send this guy that article, see what he thinks. Report back.
ChiefD
Footballguy
I get off work at 4:30, so anytime after that.
