Week 9 who should I start thread **OFFICIAL** (1 Viewer)

[Chaka]

Need 2 RBs from the following (leaning toward the bolded).

• CMC
  
• ADP
  
• Mike Davis
  
• D'Ernest Johnson
  
• Ty'Son Williams
  

I can very easily see an argument in favor of Mike Davis but I get it.

I do think he is your best option of CMC is a late scratch.

 

[travdogg]

My RB's are awful (Carson/Gibson).  I need a W this week!

Was able to Snag AP, Derrick Gore and Mark Ingram.  In a PPR, which two should I start?  

• AP not sure how many touches and against a tough Rams D w/ Von Miller now?  He's absolutely TD dependent
  
• Gore looked good from what I saw last week and could be in line for more touches
  
• Ingram Just like AP, he is TD dependent but with Simien starting and Taysom back, will Taysom get those opportunities? or did they bring him in specifically for those opportunities?  I don't see more than 8-10 touches max. 
  

I'd go Gore and Ingram. Want to see Peterson do it once before I trust him completely. 

So many studs it’s hard to choose but I need two of Carlos Hyde, ADP, Mack Hollins And Curtis Conley.

Yeah, Hyde and Peterson are easy calls here. How deep is this league that Hollins and Conley are even owned?

Tyrod Taylor or Bridgewater at QB?  Really just need the more solid start in a 6 pt Pass TD league.

Tyrod coming off month-long injury and gets the start @ Miami or Bridgewater @ Dallas.

Could also roll with Ben on monday night vs Bears...              Thanks all !

I'd go Teddy here. Should be in catchup mode for a lot of the game, and has Jeudy back now.  Tyrod probably has more upside, and Ben probably has a higher floor, but I think Teddy is the best marriage of the two.

Full PPR.  Was fully committed to starting Khalil Herbert, but David Montgomery has a "really good chance" to play on Monday.  Damien Williams is ruled out, so there is that.  Possible Montgomery is fully healthy and steps into the starter role, or possible he's just there as a backup since Williams is out and they need somebody to cover for Herbert in case he gets hurt.

Options
Monday - Khalil Herbert at Steelers
4 PM - AJ Dillon at Chiefs

Available on waivers
1 PM - Salvon Ahmed vs Texans
1 PM - Mark Ingram vs Falcons
1 PM - Ty'Son Williams vs Vikings
1 PM - Rex Burkhead at Dolphins
4 PM - Derrick Gore vs Packers
 

ETA - Also have Christian McCaffery - just got activated off of IR.

I'd go Herbert and CMC. I think at least for this week, Herbert probably runs ahead or at least equal to Montgomery.

Not enjoying today’s activations.

Wilson in SF (and Mitchell nursing the rib injury)

McCaffrey in Carolina (needing Chuba another week)

Will have to be watching the game time decisions.  Hoping at least one of Eli or Chuba is a go for me.  Then if the other needs to sit I can flex Tee Higgins, or Javonte Williams, Or Adrian Peterson.

I'd probably go Chuba regardless. He should be still be involved, and its possible CMC is used more as a 3rd down RB his first game back. I don't imagine they'll be wanting the game to be in Darnold's hands. 

I'd plan to go Mitchell, knowing you have Peterson as insurance.

Need to pick 4 from this list of WR/TE - Full PPR
Justin Jefferson at Ravens
Kyle Pitts at Saints
Jaylen Waddle vs Texans
Emmanuel Sanders at Jaguars
Jerry Jeudy at Cowboys
Kadarius Toney vs Raiders

Jefferson is automatic.  I think Waddle is too given the Texans defense and Parker is out (although Tua could be out with a finger injury).  I'm worried about Pitts getting double covered with Ridley out.  I'm worried about Sanders after a goose egg last week, plus the slot is the ideal place to attack the Jaguars, which points to a Cole Beasley day.  I like Toney with Sterling Shepard being out, but he has his own injury concerns.  Jeudy might be worth a look if the Broncos are forced to throw to catch up to Cowboys, but Broncos would certainly prefer to run if the can.
 

Its Jefferson>Waddle>Toney>Jeudy>Sanders>Pitts to me. 

Need 2 RBs from the following (leaning toward the bolded).

• CMC
  
• ADP
  
• Mike Davis
  
• D'Ernest Johnson
  
• Ty'Son Williams
  

Feels kinda gross, but I think I'd go Mike Davis opposite CMC. Other than 1 game(that had Ridley) Davis has been serviceable. 

 

[-OZ-]

Yeah, Hyde and Peterson are easy calls here. How deep is this league that Hollins and Conley are even owned?

32 teams (players available twice), start 4-5 WR. 

I mistyped. I need one of Hyde/ADP and one of Conley or Hollins.

 

[icehouse]

Higgins or Hopkins at the flex in half PPR. If I wait on Hopkins and he doesn’t play I can still start Dillon. 
 

In another league, Kirk or Dillon at the flex. Half PPR. 
 

Thanks!

 

[heckmanm]

Feels kinda gross, but I think I'd go Mike Davis opposite CMC. Other than 1 game(that had Ridley) Davis has been serviceable. 

Davis over ADP? I could see that with Petersen having just signed this week.

 

[jobarules]

Assuming Robinson out, is anyone starting Hyde? Yeah I know tough matchup but should get volume and receptions.

I'm deciding between Hyde and Javonte in .5 ppr

Also, in another league with CMC returning, also 0.5 ppr. Who do I bench? CMC, Toney vs LV, or Sanders vs Jax. Right now I'm benching CMC. Is that crazy?

 

[LionOfGosforth]

Ugh, didn't realize that K.Murray was this injured, doesn't sound likely he'll be risked. Last minute QB WDIS!

Tua vs Houston

or

Siemian vs Atlanta

Both good matchups, assuming Tua plays as he's a bit banged up too. Any help appreciated!

 

[Lion to myself]

Ugh, didn't realize that K.Murray was this injured, doesn't sound likely he'll be risked. Last minute QB WDIS!

Tua vs Houston

or

Siemian vs Atlanta

Both good matchups, assuming Tua plays as he's a bit banged up too. Any help appreciated!

Tua assuming he is good to go. He has performed pretty good lately in good match ups.  

 

[Mongidig]

PPR

Peoples Jones at the Bengals

or

Bryan Edwards at the Giants.

 

[VikingFrog]

Pick 3: Standard Scoring

Sutton, K Herbert, Jeudy, J Wilson, A Peterson.

 

[Mongidig]

Tua assuming he is good to go. He has performed pretty good lately in good match ups.  

Tua

 

[JetMaxx]

Pick 3: Standard Scoring

Sutton, K Herbert, Jeudy, J Wilson, A Peterson.

Jeudy, Herbert, AP

 

[JetMaxx]

Hollywood or MWilliams

 

[VikingFrog]

Hollywood or MWilliams

Hollywood.

 

[VikingFrog]

Jeudy, Herbert, AP

Thanks. I’m struggling to not go Sutton and Jeudy, then Herbert/AP. But I’m just assuming Denver will be playing catch-up against the cowboys.

 

[JetMaxx]

Thanks. I’m struggling to not go Sutton and Jeudy, then Herbert/AP. But I’m just assuming Denver will be playing catch-up against the cowboys.

I initially thought Sutton and Jeudy. I think AP with fresh legs has a couple decent games to start

 

[groin pains]

J Love or T Taylor in place of Rodgers??

 

[Chaka]

Higgins or Hopkins at the flex in half PPR. If I wait on Hopkins and he doesn’t play I can still start Dillon. Thanks. 

The most recent report is Murray and Hopkins travelled with the team but are not expected to play.

Between Higgins & Dillon it is close to a toss up. I personally don't expect the Packers to run as much as they did last week simply because they have all their receiving weapons back and they probably will be less effective overall without Rodgers resulting in fewer plays overall.

Higgins hasn't found the end zone in the last four games but he's getting at least 6 targets/game.

They're both TD dependent and ultimately it's a guy call and my gut says Higgins.

Since the question is ultimately about waiting on Hopkins then going with Dillon isn't a bad option for you.

 

[Chaka]

Assuming Robinson out, is anyone starting Hyde? Yeah I know tough matchup but should get volume and receptions.

I'm deciding between Hyde and Javonte in .5 ppr

Also, in another league with CMC returning, also 0.5 ppr. Who do I bench? CMC, Toney vs LV, or Sanders vs Jax. Right now I'm benching CMC. Is that crazy?

I have spoken about Hyde a couple times in this thread. I think he has very little TD upside, or yardage upside but I think he is a serviceable receiver on outlets and dump offs which IMO will be about all Jax should be able to muster today so another 6 receptions and maybe 60 total yards is a reasonable projection for him.

Javonte should get you the 60 yards but 2-3 receptions is more reasonable. He may have a marginally better TD upside as he gets a little goal line work and is far more explosive. His advanced metrics place him at the top on breaking tackles and forcing missed tackles.

I personally roll the dice on the upside here, I'm not sure that is the smartest decision but it's probably how I would personally roll.

Javonte>Hyde

 

[Chaka]

Assuming Robinson out, is anyone starting Hyde? Yeah I know tough matchup but should get volume and receptions.

I'm deciding between Hyde and Javonte in .5 ppr

Also, in another league with CMC returning, also 0.5 ppr. Who do I bench? CMC, Toney vs LV, or Sanders vs Jax. Right now I'm benching CMC. Is that crazy?

I think if McCaffrey plays you should play him. He could be limited, he could get reinjured, a lot could go wrong but he is the offense. You will know his status before having to decide on the others.

 

[Chaka]

Ugh, didn't realize that K.Murray was this injured, doesn't sound likely he'll be risked. Last minute QB WDIS!

Tua vs Houston

or

Siemian vs Atlanta

Both good matchups, assuming Tua plays as he's a bit banged up too. Any help appreciated!

Tua. Not even close enough for me to do a shallow dive into it, let alone a deep one.

I love Sean Payton and what he can get out of a player but...no.

ETA:

@LionOfGosforth Tua is apparently out today 

 

[Chaka]

PPR

Peoples Jones at the Bengals

or

Bryan Edwards at the Giants.

The Raiders are so tough to call this week.

My heart and my gut say Edwards but that could be my hopes speaking more than my head.

They're both in line for more work for sure. Edwards has been less efficient but he has run a ton of deep routes (20+ ypc). Peoples's efficiency seems unsustainable but he should make up for it with more volume.

Ultimately the Raiders have a better matchup and throw about 8 more times per game. Then again they could implode

Edwards>Peoples

 

[Chaka]

Pick 3: Standard Scoring

Sutton, K Herbert, Jeudy, J Wilson, A Peterson.

Herbert, Jeudy, ADP

Wilson & ADP are both unknowns ATM but Tennessee has a much bigger need for a RB than SF. Plus they have a better run blocking offensive line.

 

[Chaka]

Hollywood or MWilliams

I think Williams has a good game this week but Marquise has been more consistent, has equal upside and is at home in a better matchup.

Marquise>Williams

 

[Chaka]

Thanks. I’m struggling to not go Sutton and Jeudy, then Herbert/AP. But I’m just assuming Denver will be playing catch-up against the cowboys.

I could absolutely see Sutton over Herbert.  I could see Sutton over Jeudy too. It's a coin flip really but I am hesitant to throw two WRs from the same team in my lineup. Particularly when Fant, Patrick and the RBs are all target vultures. I am honestly surprised the Broncos offense isn't better. They have a ton of weapons.

 

[Chaka]

J Love or T Taylor in place of Rodgers??

I'm going to say Love. He has better weapons, better offensive line, facing an equally bad defense (worse actually), better coaching and is more likely to face a game script that requires him to pass a lot.

Love>Taylor

 

[sho nuff]

Tua not playing FYI

Sorry…not starting but will be the backup 

https://twitter.com/rapsheet/status/1457375298568269830?s=21

 

[kyoun1e]

PPR league. Need one of these RBs:

* AP @LAR -- Unclear how much work he'll get. Not a great matchup. Could get game scripted out, but also could fall into the endzone.

* C. Hyde vs BUF -- J. Robinson trending out. Assume he is. Horrible matchup, but could get receptions (unlike AP) in garbage time. Had six receptions last week. Could produce an ugly 12-40, 5-30.

* Jeff Wilson vs AZ -- Shockingly activated. E. Mitchell clearly banged up. Rumor he'll be eased in but who knows. Could me a RBBC mess possibly. Shananigans.

Who?

Thanks

 

[-OZ-]

Super flex

 Ty Taylor or brissett with Tua out?

 

[Drake Hater]

PPR league. Need one of these RBs:

* AP @LAR -- Unclear how much work he'll get. Not a great matchup. Could get game scripted out, but also could fall into the endzone.

* C. Hyde vs BUF -- J. Robinson trending out. Assume he is. Horrible matchup, but could get receptions (unlike AP) in garbage time. Had six receptions last week. Could produce an ugly 12-40, 5-30.

* Jeff Wilson vs AZ -- Shockingly activated. E. Mitchell clearly banged up. Rumor he'll be eased in but who knows. Could me a RBBC mess possibly. Shananigans.

Who?

Thanks

Difficult choice here.

AP with possible RZ touches but maybe not much else for PPR benefit...also unknown in terms of snap count and potential RBBC. 

Hyde playing against a good defense and the Jags will likely be trailing the whole time. Seems like they veer away from the ground attack.

Wilson is a complete unknown but AZ without a few coaches due to Covid, Murray and D Hop limited/inactive. May be a low scoring affair with both teams trying to grind out a rushing attack. 

I'd lean Wilson, then AP, then Hyde. 

 

[Chaka]

PPR league. Need one of these RBs:

* AP @LAR -- Unclear how much work he'll get. Not a great matchup. Could get game scripted out, but also could fall into the endzone.

* C. Hyde vs BUF -- J. Robinson trending out. Assume he is. Horrible matchup, but could get receptions (unlike AP) in garbage time. Had six receptions last week. Could produce an ugly 12-40, 5-30.

* Jeff Wilson vs AZ -- Shockingly activated. E. Mitchell clearly banged up. Rumor he'll be eased in but who knows. Could me a RBBC mess possibly. Shananigans.

Who?

Thanks

For me Wilson isn't an option because the Niners have the least need at RB and he is 100% TD dependent ATM until we know otherwise. I sincerely doubt he comes in and immediately sends Mitchell to the bench #2 RB role.

You covered all the arguments for/against ADP & Hyde very concisely. Well done.

Between those two it's a gut call. Since you're full PPR I think Hyde is probably the right call. Lost in the AARDP hype is the Titans also activated Donta Foreman and I could very easily see both getting the opportunity to establish themselves. The Titans are a vastly better team but their situation is a little too unsettled IMO.

Hyde>ADP

 

[primetime333]

PICK 2- PPR, long TD's bonus points

Myles Gaskin, Josh Jacobs, Elijah Mitchel, Christian McCaffrey

 

[kyoun1e]

Difficult choice here.

AP with possible RZ touches but maybe not much else for PPR benefit...also unknown in terms of snap count and potential RBBC. 

Hyde playing against a good defense and the Jags will likely be trailing the whole time. Seems like they veer away from the ground attack.

Wilson is a complete unknown but AZ without a few coaches due to Covid, Murray and D Hop limited/inactive. May be a low scoring affair with both teams trying to grind out a rushing attack. 

I'd lean Wilson, then AP, then Hyde. 

Wow. Surprising take. 

Wilson to me is the biggest wild card. Lowest floor, but maybe highest ceiling if Mitchell leaves the game early.

 

[Chaka]

Super flex

 Ty Taylor or brissett with Tua out?

That's really close man. I think Taylor maybe possibly has the higher ceiling. Brisset maybe possibly has the higher floor?

It's a gut call. I'll ETA if my gut tells me anything after I hit Submit Reply.

ETA: Nothing. Sorry.

 

[Chaka]

PICK 2- PPR, long TD's bonus points

Myles Gaskin, Josh Jacobs, Elijah Mitchel, Christian McCaffrey

I think if McCaffrey plays you have to play him. It honestly may be your only opportunity to get RoI from your #1 pick. He's clearly better than any of your other options and we simply cannot have a real handle on his true injury status so, IMO it's best to play as if he's 100%. You will hate yourself far more if he blows up on your bench than any of the others.

I think Jacobs is the most talented of the others but not by enough of a margin to lock him without uqestion. 

Gaskin probably has the best matchup and the fewest potential vultures.

Gaskin>Jacobs>Mitchell

 

[kyoun1e]

For me Wilson isn't an option because the Niners have the least need at RB and he is 100% TD dependent ATM until we know otherwise. I sincerely doubt he comes in and immediately sends Mitchell to the bench #2 RB role.

You covered all the arguments for/against ADP & Hyde very concisely. Well done.

Between those two it's a gut call. Since you're full PPR I think Hyde is probably the right call. Lost in the AARDP hype is the Titans also activated Donta Foreman and I could very easily see both getting the opportunity to establish themselves. The Titans are a vastly better team but their situation is a little too unsettled IMO.

Hyde>ADP

Thanks much.

One other point on potentially going Hyde: I'm a 20 point underdog and my opponent is starting the BUF D. If you look at cross team correlation, IF Hyde does outperform that may mean JAX had a spunky offensive performance hurting my opponent's BUF D.

It's a stretch. Lol.

 

[Chaka]

Thanks much.

One other point on potentially going Hyde: I'm a 20 point underdog and my opponent is starting the BUF D. If you look at cross team correlation, IF Hyde does outperform that may mean JAX had a spunky offensive performance hurting my opponent's BUF D.

It's a stretch. Lol.

That stretch just dislocated my typing thumb.

 

[themeistersinger]

Tua not starting for Miami.  How much should I push Waddle down in my ranks?  Parker is also out.  Full PPR.

Need to pick 4 from this list of WR/TE - Full PPR
Justin Jefferson at Ravens
Jaylen Waddle vs Texans
Kyle Pitts at Saints
Emmanuel Sanders at Jaguars
Jerry Jeudy at Cowboys
Kadarius Toney vs Raiders

Jarvis Landry is also available on the WW, but not sure I want to drop anybody to pick him up.

 

[Ridgeback]

PPR

GASKIN OR AP?

RYAN OR SIEMIAN?

 

[C-Bound]

PPR

GASKIN OR AP?

RYAN OR SIEMIAN?

Gaskin/Ryan

 

[C-Bound]

Pollard, Jav. Will, or Goedert?

PPR

 

[UncleZen]

Jeremy McNichols or Darrell Williams, non PPR? Not sure what either's real role is going to be with the way the chiefs worked D. Gore in last week. I'm leaning McNichols but it's really a coin flip to me.

 

[VikingFrog]

I could absolutely see Sutton over Herbert.  I could see Sutton over Jeudy too. It's a coin flip really but I am hesitant to throw two WRs from the same team in my lineup. Particularly when Fant, Patrick and the RBs are all target vultures. I am honestly surprised the Broncos offense isn't better. They have a ton of weapons.

I feel like Ace Ventura debating Finkle and Einhorn, trying to figure out Sutton or Jeudy. 
 

I have a Magic 8 Ball on my office desk that I use to make really important decisions. Wish I had it now.

 

[Drake Hater]

Wow. Surprising take. 

Wilson to me is the biggest wild card. Lowest floor, but maybe highest ceiling if Mitchell leaves the game early.

Blaming my hangover. I like the Hyde rec a little better if he's getting receptions. Good luck!

 

[Chaka]

Tua not starting for Miami.  How much should I push Waddle down in my ranks?  Parker is also out.  Full PPR.

Need to pick 4 from this list of WR/TE - Full PPR
Justin Jefferson at Ravens
Jaylen Waddle vs Texans
Kyle Pitts at Saints
Emmanuel Sanders at Jaguars
Jerry Jeudy at Cowboys
Kadarius Toney vs Raiders

Jarvis Landry is also available on the WW, but not sure I want to drop anybody to pick him up.

Yeah Brisset could be an issue. He did target Waddle 13 times in one game though (4 & 6 times in the other two though). It's not a great data set to draw conclusions from.

I'm not sure I would sit him though. It's real close and I don't think I can help you decide.

You have great options though with Toney & Pitts. Heck you have a good argument to bench Sanders, who I recommended yesterday, for either of those guys too.

 

[themeistersinger]

Yeah Brisset could be an issue. He did target Waddle 13 times in one game though (4 & 6 times in the other two though). It's not a great data set to draw conclusions from.

I'm not sure I would sit him though. It's real close and I don't think I can help you decide.

You have great options though with Toney & Pitts. Heck you have a good argument to bench Sanders, who I recommended yesterday, for either of those guys too.

Actually I was kind of hoping for a slam dunk "start these 4 guys" guaranteed mortal lock recommendation.  But thanks anyways.  

 

[Jayded]

PPR Flex

Jordan Howard vs LAC

Cedrick Wilson vs DEN

With Gallup out again, do I roll with Wilson? We also get return yards points but not sure he’ll see enough targets

 

[Chaka]

Pollard, Jav. Will, or Goedert?

PPR

Pollard & Javonte are very similar but I lean Javonte by the slightest margin because Pollard seems to get pulled at the goal line for Zeke.

Goedert is certainly an option but I just don't trust anything about that offense outside Hurts. The game plan should be to run all day but who the heck knows with Siriani?

Javonte>Pollard>Goedert without much confidence.

 

[Chaka]

PPR

GASKIN OR AP?

RYAN OR SIEMIAN?

Gaskin pretty strongly over ADP in PPR. Gaskin can catch and has the least competition.

Ryan faces a tougher defense but I simply can't recommend Trevor Simeon over...anyone?

Ryan

ETA: Sean Payton could probably coach a bag of rocks into a competent NFL QB but I just think Someone has limited upside. Who knows?

 

[Chaka]

Jeremy McNichols or Darrell Williams, non PPR? Not sure what either's real role is going to be with the way the chiefs worked D. Gore in last week. I'm leaning McNichols but it's really a coin flip to me.

Williams pretty strongly. I don't believe in Gore yet and in non-ppr I am not confident McNichols is going to see much upside. Williams at least should be used near the goal line.

Williams>McNichols