And teams can survive with less fans at the game. As long as they can still put the games on tv they will find a way to play sooner or later.May be delayed a bit if they want to get in a full training camp and preseason, but I see no way that it doesn't happen. Training camp starts almost 4 months from. I haven't seen any projections where most of this won't be behind us by then. Attendance may be really low, but the games will go on.
The NFL fan base wanted free agency to go forward.Players signing $50 million, $100 Million deals while people who make $15 an hour are being told they are out of work and likely will remain that way for months. Great message the NFL sends to their fan base about what they really think of them.
It’s not clear - are you mad at the billionaires or the millionaires?Judging on the fact they didn't wait a minute to get their precious free agency rolling and have full plans to host the NFL Draft in April and simply not allow fans to participate, it would seem they are going to figure out a way to make it happen even if they have to pump in crowd noise or fans...oh that's right, Fox had already done that a decade ago.
They will figure out a way, this is Roger Goodell and the Evil Empire we are talking about.
Players signing $50 million, $100 Million deals while people who make $15 an hour are being told they are out of work and likely will remain that way for months. Great message the NFL sends to their fan base about what they really think of them.
Nobody thinks the nfl cares about them. Nor should they.Judging on the fact they didn't wait a minute to get their precious free agency rolling and have full plans to host the NFL Draft in April and simply not allow fans to participate, it would seem they are going to figure out a way to make it happen even if they have to pump in crowd noise or fans...oh that's right, Fox had already done that a decade ago.
They will figure out a way, this is Roger Goodell and the Evil Empire we are talking about.
Players signing $50 million, $100 Million deals while people who make $15 an hour are being told they are out of work and likely will remain that way for months. Great message the NFL sends to their fan base about what they really think of them.
Tens of billions of dollars are on the line. Those owners don’t care about anything else and the president will say something like the country needs this to get back to normal etc. Season will definitely be played, but I am sure there will be some kind of disruption.Without a vaccine...and the 2020 NFL season will/would take place prior to one being available, I can’t see a season taking place.
People don’t understand the psychological damage this country is about to endure. By the time training camps would be open, hundreds of thousands of people nationwide could be dead from this thing...perhaps on the way to a seven figure death toll. And while we may get a respite from this in the summer, as temps turn colder...all expect another wave of this.
For Goodell/NFL to try and move forward with the season under these conditions would be the definition of tone-deaf...
That way of thinking will be obsolete soon...Tens of billions of dollars are on the line. Those owners don’t care about anything else and the president will say something like the country needs this to get back to normal etc. Season will definitely be played, but I am sure there will be some kind of disruption.
As of now—the NFL season is supposed to start in September. Keep in mind—the only way to guarantee that the virus wouldn’t be spread in games would be if the tests and results could happen literally upon entering the stadium. Even with better testing —I highly doubt that they will be able to conduct 2500-3000 instantaneous tests (53 players per team, plus coaching staff, plus trainers, plus security personnel, plus equipment managers and handlers) with immediate results every week. With that said—I do think that your other points about empty stadiums and such could very well be right on and I do not disagree there.Normal......20%. Will they play the games......80%. If they can broadcast empty stadium games, they will. Too much tv money at stake. Also think testing will be much better by then.
Greedy owners wanting money will be obsolete soon? Don’t count on that.That way of thinking will be obsolete soon...
But MLB, NBA, and NHL do?100%
It may be to empty stadiums but the games will be played if for no other reason than the NFL does not want to lose the TV revenue.
To be honest, I’m glad they are proceeding.Judging on the fact they didn't wait a minute to get their precious free agency rolling and have full plans to host the NFL Draft in April and simply not allow fans to participate, it would seem they are going to figure out a way to make it happen even if they have to pump in crowd noise or fans...oh that's right, Fox had already done that a decade ago.
They will figure out a way, this is Roger Goodell and the Evil Empire we are talking about.
Players signing $50 million, $100 Million deals while people who make $15 an hour are being told they are out of work and likely will remain that way for months. Great message the NFL sends to their fan base about what they really think of them.
People tolerating it will.Greedy owners wanting money will be obsolete soon? Don’t count on that.
I bet they are all playing in empty arenas/parks by June.But MLB, NBA, and NHL do?
Nothing in regards to billionaires getting as much as they can will ever change in a capitalistic society like the one way have here.People tolerating it will.
No but circumstances are different now than they will be 6 months from now. This just hit us. If we flatten the curve hospitals won’t be as overrun, hopefully there are more tests and ventilators and hopefully some kind of treatment is found.But MLB, NBA, and NHL do?
There are a lot of unknowns. If the virus mutates and it effects young people more and requires a different vaccine, then all bets are off.No but circumstances are different now than they will be 6 months from now. This just hit us. If we flatten the curve hospitals won’t be as overrun, hopefully there are more tests and ventilators and hopefully some kind of treatment is found.
For sureThere are a lot of unknowns. If the virus mutates and it effects young people more and requires a different vaccine, then all bets are off.
That’s not the right reason, the NFL owners losing tv revenue will not be the cause. European football teams are losing way more and they are completely shut down.100%
It may be to empty stadiums but the games will be played if for no other reason than the NFL does not want to lose the TV revenue.
They are completely shut down right now. Do you think they’ll still be shut down 6 months from now after we have a better handle on testing and treatment?That’s not the right reason, the NFL owners losing tv revenue will not be the cause. European football teams are losing way more and they are completely shut down.
Nobody listens to me when I say this but this is the future of sports. Sports using actual people will be a niche event.A bunch of NASCAR drivers are doing sim races. Maybe the NFL could play the season on Madden.
I think it is almost a certainty but honestly who knows.Wondering if people think football season will happen this year.
No, and hoping things get back to normalish in a few months.They are completely shut down right now. Do you think they’ll still be shut down 6 months from now after we have a better handle on testing and treatment?
while it may not ever fully supplant actual human athletes, i think it will be the dominant form of competition sooner than most might think - i feel what you're sayingNobody listens to me when I say this but this is the future of sports. Sports using actual people will be a niche event.
Exactly!It’s not clear - are you mad at the billionaires or the millionaires?
This is a BS take. Why should people feel guilty or apologize when their life is good and maybe someone else’s isn’t? The salary that the players make has zero to do with a barber in Spokane Washington who no longer has work or a mechanic in Tallahassee who’s garage is closed. What’s the cut off for your angst? Should an IT director that pulls in six figures also be apologetic ? When they receive their paycheck should they apologize to someone or show sympathy to others outside of the norm?Exactly!
All of them really except the players didn't have a choice although I also didn't hear or read a lot of "Sorry to my fan base and what they are going thru but I had to move forward for me and my family" and maybe some fo that did happen but I haven't seen anything like that.
The 32 Owners are squarely to blame with Goodell as the ringleader so those 33 is where I'll start. And ironically that's how old Jesus was at the time of his death so I have the bible on my side
The NBA is shutting off the valve on $$$ April 1st.This is a BS take. Why should people feel guilty or apologize when their life is good and maybe someone else’s isn’t? The salary that the players make has zero to do with a barber in Spokane Washington who no longer has work or a mechanic in Tallahassee who’s garage is closed. What’s the cut off for your angst? Should an IT director that pulls in six figures also be apologetic ? When they receive their paycheck should they apologize to someone or show sympathy to others outside of the norm?
The other league shut down to protect players, workers and fans. The NFL continuing with free agency and the draft is putting nobody in danger. If people are upset with the NFL, they are looking for reasons to be upset. What the NFL is doing has no effect on anyone else.The NBA is shutting off the valve on $$$ April 1st.
MLB canceled the season so far and I had front row tickets 1B bag in St Pete for the opener with my son.
The NHL shut down everything.
I'm glad you are having fun, I certainly posted in depth in the Phins thread and made no apologies for doing so, never brought up the CV-19. But being honest, it felt guilty and I understand why people think the NFL is pretty insensitive. We're talking about a league that when Vick was convicted of dog murder and women were having an outcry, the NFL responded with pink wristbands and shoes to show how understanding and sensitive they were and to not piss off their fan base.
Let's call a spade a spade. It's not a BS take at all, it's a pretty clear 2nd side of the Coin here.