Owners are fickle. 2 weeks ago, not a single FWP owner on this board said they would trade him for LJ straight up. FWP puts up one of his usual stinkers on the road, LJ and the Chiefs show that armageddon is not near in KC and now the roles are exactly reversed.As an LJ owner, I would take this.I offered FWP for LJ straight - guy said he would consider it and get back ...not feeling too confident. I still love FWP - just love LJ more.
 
 I wouldn't answer that trade offer either.I just offerred: L Jordan, H Ward, & C Pep to get: LJ and Housh.....I don't want any part of the RB situation in Oakland, especially with Culpepper running them all in....but...who knows how C-Pep will do from now on....I'd rather ditch them all and get guys I know will produce pretty consistently for the rest of the year....I doubt he will take it, though...one of those guys who never answers your trade offers....
Well, the guy is 1-3 and I thought he might take a chance that Culpepper continues his plethora of tds, Jordan is back after the bye, and H Ward is almost ready to come back....is it really that bad?I wouldn't answer that trade offer either.I just offerred: L Jordan, H Ward, & C Pep to get: LJ and Housh.....I don't want any part of the RB situation in Oakland, especially with Culpepper running them all in....but...who knows how C-Pep will do from now on....I'd rather ditch them all and get guys I know will produce pretty consistently for the rest of the year....I doubt he will take it, though...one of those guys who never answers your trade offers....
Yes and you know it is. 9 of 10 offers I get are like this. You point out the weaknesses in the offer and the sender plays dumb.Well, the guy is 1-3 and I thought he might take a chance that Culpepper continues his plethora of tds, Jordan is back after the bye, and H Ward is almost ready to come back....is it really that bad?I wouldn't answer that trade offer either.I just offerred: L Jordan, H Ward, & C Pep to get: LJ and Housh.....I don't want any part of the RB situation in Oakland, especially with Culpepper running them all in....but...who knows how C-Pep will do from now on....I'd rather ditch them all and get guys I know will produce pretty consistently for the rest of the year....I doubt he will take it, though...one of those guys who never answers your trade offers.... :whoosh:
You hate guys like that? You offered a lesser RB and a lesser WR for a better RB and a better WR.Terrible offer.I offered Edge and James Jones for LJ and Cotchery. This was before last week's turnaround for KC. The owner scorned me with derision. He offered TJ Duckett and Rivers for SJAX and Tom Brady.So, I guess he's not going to trade. I hate guys like that. I think Cotchery for Jones was a stretch, but it wasn't an insult. And given that LJ was averaging about 9 fpg while Edge was at 15 I thought it was relatively fair, if short-sighted.
Pretty sure I would have reacted the same.If you want a top player don't go offering crap and then be surprised when they respond with crap offers in return.I offered Edge and James Jones for LJ and Cotchery. This was before last week's turnaround for KC. The owner scorned me with derision. He offered TJ Duckett and Rivers for SJAX and Tom Brady.So, I guess he's not going to trade. I hate guys like that. I think Cotchery for Jones was a stretch, but it wasn't an insult. And given that LJ was averaging about 9 fpg while Edge was at 15 I thought it was relatively fair, if short-sighted.
funny post :whoosh: I can't believe some fell for that:update:The LJ owner turned this deal down.Well that settles it. I am offering Musa Smith, Devrey Henderson, Michael Pittman and Greg Olson for LJ. I'll just stache him on my bench until his schedule eases up and it's off to the championship I go.I'm going to throw in Jason Hanson and offer it again.
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  expedition.Condolences? I am 4-0 with him. You will learn that your 1st pick isn't where you win your drafts, newb.Nice contribution.Condolences for those who built their teams around him.
Agree 100%.The trend at FBG is if you offer craptastic offers where a player is underperforming, you take a piece of crap that is overperforming and offer the craptastic player for the underperformer (who the whole universe knows will get better) and feel like a "Shark", like you "Have one up on the big dummies in your league" and then get pissed when people don't want crap players like Lamont Jordan (overperforming, now hurt and RBBC on the horizon) and all they have to give you is LJ (underperfomer who just woke up and has ability to put up 20 TDS). This is too common. It's not a "shark" move, it's just a way to piss off and irritate your competition, keep it up and nobody in your league will want to deal with you at all. :whoosh:Pretty sure I would have reacted the same.If you want a top player don't go offering crap and then be surprised when they respond with crap offers in return.I offered Edge and James Jones for LJ and Cotchery. This was before last week's turnaround for KC. The owner scorned me with derision. He offered TJ Duckett and Rivers for SJAX and Tom Brady.So, I guess he's not going to trade. I hate guys like that. I think Cotchery for Jones was a stretch, but it wasn't an insult. And given that LJ was averaging about 9 fpg while Edge was at 15 I thought it was relatively fair, if short-sighted.
I'm always insulted when people offer me an injured player. In this case, you offered 2 injured players...what a terrible offer.I just offerred: L Jordan, H Ward, & C Pep to get: LJ and Housh.....I don't want any part of the RB situation in Oakland, especially with Culpepper running them all in....but...who knows how C-Pep will do from now on....I'd rather ditch them all and get guys I know will produce pretty consistently for the rest of the year....I doubt he will take it, though...one of those guys who never answers your trade offers....
Ok Ok - it was a bad offer, but sometimes desperate times call for desperate measures.....the winner in our league usually has never had more than 2 losses, so he really doesn't have anything to lose by taking a chance that those 3 guys outplay the 2 I get.....and far be it from me to not give him that opportunityI'm always insulted when people offer me an injured player. In this case, you offered 2 injured players...what a terrible offer.I just offerred: L Jordan, H Ward, & C Pep to get: LJ and Housh.....I don't want any part of the RB situation in Oakland, especially with Culpepper running them all in....but...who knows how C-Pep will do from now on....I'd rather ditch them all and get guys I know will produce pretty consistently for the rest of the year....I doubt he will take it, though...one of those guys who never answers your trade offers....

I think I struck a nerve.WiDDoW_MaKeR said:I am 4-0 without him.Isn't calling someone a newb considered extremely lame? Honestly, the first thing that I think of when someone on the internet calls another person a newb... is that the person using the term "newb" has got to be a soft little p-u-s-s-y in real life. Learn how to take a joke, and get over yourself.Condolences? I am 4-0 with him. You will learn that your 1st pick isn't where you win your drafts, newb.Nice contribution.Condolences for those who built their teams around him.

I've learned that when people disregard the language filter they get kicked off of fantasy football websites.Later Newb.WiDDoW_MaKeR said:I am 4-0 without him.Isn't calling someone a newb considered extremely lame? Honestly, the first thing that I think of when someone on the internet calls another person a newb... is that the person using the term "newb" has got to be a soft little p-u-s-s-y in real life. Learn how to take a joke, and get over yourself.Condolences? I am 4-0 with him. You will learn that your 1st pick isn't where you win your drafts, newb.Nice contribution.Condolences for those who built their teams around him.

C'mon now, boys, there's a lady present.....and Ahmad Rashad 14 User(s) are reading this topic (4 Guests and 0 Anonymous Users)I think I struck a nerve.WiDDoW_MaKeR said:I am 4-0 without him.Isn't calling someone a newb considered extremely lame? Honestly, the first thing that I think of when someone on the internet calls another person a newb... is that the person using the term "newb" has got to be a soft little p-u-s-s-y in real life. Learn how to take a joke, and get over yourself.Condolences? I am 4-0 with him. You will learn that your 1st pick isn't where you win your drafts, newb.Nice contribution.Condolences for those who built their teams around him.
Get the rope.I've learned that when people disregard the language filter they get kicked off of fantasy football websites.Later Newb.WiDDoW_MaKeR said:I am 4-0 without him.Isn't calling someone a newb considered extremely lame? Honestly, the first thing that I think of when someone on the internet calls another person a newb... is that the person using the term "newb" has got to be a soft little p-u-s-s-y in real life. Learn how to take a joke, and get over yourself.Condolences? I am 4-0 with him. You will learn that your 1st pick isn't where you win your drafts, newb.Nice contribution.Condolences for those who built their teams around him.

I've learned that if you go in with a fair offer, that is mutually beneficial, other owners tend to deal with you more. Most owners don't want to deal with someone that opens trade talks with injured players...not good form. Just my opinion.Ok Ok - it was a bad offer, but sometimes desperate times call for desperate measures.....the winner in our league usually has never had more than 2 losses, so he really doesn't have anything to lose by taking a chance that those 3 guys outplay the 2 I get.....and far be it from me to not give him that opportunityI'm always insulted when people offer me an injured player. In this case, you offered 2 injured players...what a terrible offer.I just offerred: L Jordan, H Ward, & C Pep to get: LJ and Housh.....I don't want any part of the RB situation in Oakland, especially with Culpepper running them all in....but...who knows how C-Pep will do from now on....I'd rather ditch them all and get guys I know will produce pretty consistently for the rest of the year....I doubt he will take it, though...one of those guys who never answers your trade offers....

Take care, newb.WiDDoW_MaKeR said:I am 4-0 without him.Isn't calling someone a newb considered extremely lame? Honestly, the first thing that I think of when someone on the internet calls another person a newb... is that the person using the term "newb" has got to be a soft little p-u-s-s-y in real life. Learn how to take a joke, and get over yourself.Condolences? I am 4-0 with him. You will learn that your 1st pick isn't where you win your drafts, newb.Nice contribution.Condolences for those who built their teams around him.
Nope, sorry. Obviously you take message boards, and internet personas a lot more seriously than I do. Anyways... off of my jock now, and continue to pick out other peoples posts, cry about what they say, and call them newbs... it's obviously taking your life to amazing heights.I think I struck a nerve.WiDDoW_MaKeR said:I am 4-0 without him.Isn't calling someone a newb considered extremely lame? Honestly, the first thing that I think of when someone on the internet calls another person a newb... is that the person using the term "newb" has got to be a soft little p-u-s-s-y in real life. Learn how to take a joke, and get over yourself.Condolences? I am 4-0 with him. You will learn that your 1st pick isn't where you win your drafts, newb.Nice contribution.Condolences for those who built their teams around him.
Take care, newb.WiDDoW_MaKeR said:I am 4-0 without him.Isn't calling someone a newb considered extremely lame? Honestly, the first thing that I think of when someone on the internet calls another person a newb... is that the person using the term "newb" has got to be a soft little p-u-s-s-y in real life. Learn how to take a joke, and get over yourself.Condolences? I am 4-0 with him. You will learn that your 1st pick isn't where you win your drafts, newb.Nice contribution.Condolences for those who built their teams around him.
I agree... that was an awful offer. Holt is going through rough times in SL. Derrick Ward is about to take the back seat, and no touchdowns. DeAngelo Williams is taking a back seat to Foster.... all bad situations. With LJ you always have the chance for a great game, and a great season. Jordan is off to a great start, of course... there are injury concerns, and Rhodes coming back to deal with. However, I wouldn't even trade LJ himself for those guys, let alone with Jordan in there as well.Was just offered Torry Holt, DeAngelo Williams and D. Ward for Larry Johnson and Lamont Jordan. Don't think I am going to take that one.
New?Nope, sorry. Obviously you take message boards, and internet personas a lot more seriously than I do. Anyways... off of my jock now, and continue to pick out other peoples posts, cry about what they say, and call them newbs... it's obviously taking your life to amazing heights.I think I struck a nerve.WiDDoW_MaKeR said:I am 4-0 without him.Isn't calling someone a newb considered extremely lame? Honestly, the first thing that I think of when someone on the internet calls another person a newb... is that the person using the term "newb" has got to be a soft little p-u-s-s-y in real life. Learn how to take a joke, and get over yourself.Condolences? I am 4-0 with him. You will learn that your 1st pick isn't where you win your drafts, newb.Nice contribution.Condolences for those who built their teams around him.

yesWell, the guy is 1-3 and I thought he might take a chance that Culpepper continues his plethora of tds, Jordan is back after the bye, and H Ward is almost ready to come back....is it really that bad?I wouldn't answer that trade offer either.I just offerred: L Jordan, H Ward, & C Pep to get: LJ and Housh.....I don't want any part of the RB situation in Oakland, especially with Culpepper running them all in....but...who knows how C-Pep will do from now on....I'd rather ditch them all and get guys I know will produce pretty consistently for the rest of the year....I doubt he will take it, though...one of those guys who never answers your trade offers....
You didn't really think somebody would bite at that crappy offer did you? That is pretty laughable if you ask me..Back to the subject at hand:I offered Derek Anderson (#3 scoring QB in our league) and M. Lynch (#10 scoring RB in our league) for Larry Johnson. The owner with LJ has Bulger and Griese as his only two QB's and there's not much on the waiver wire (Edwards/Boller/Frerotte are the best options).The owner responded with, "I've got much better offers on the table". I replied, "good luck".EDIT to add: 12-man redraft.
Yes, it is. I just vomitted in my mouth a little.Well, the guy is 1-3 and I thought he might take a chance that Culpepper continues his plethora of tds, Jordan is back after the bye, and H Ward is almost ready to come back....is it really that bad?I wouldn't answer that trade offer either.I just offerred: L Jordan, H Ward, & C Pep to get: LJ and Housh.....I don't want any part of the RB situation in Oakland, especially with Culpepper running them all in....but...who knows how C-Pep will do from now on....I'd rather ditch them all and get guys I know will produce pretty consistently for the rest of the year....I doubt he will take it, though...one of those guys who never answers your trade offers....
Here's what is extremely lame. Monkeysee and OUKurt are the same person, calling out Newb--in different posts. Give me a break. Crazy as this sounds on a fantasy football forum....please...get a life. Both of you--er, I mean, just you. Dont bother with the flames or the PM's...you are outed. Other posters..you have been warned. Engage with this windbag(s) at your own risk.Take care, newb.WiDDoW_MaKeR said:I am 4-0 without him.Isn't calling someone a newb considered extremely lame? Honestly, the first thing that I think of when someone on the internet calls another person a newb... is that the person using the term "newb" has got to be a soft little p-u-s-s-y in real life. Learn how to take a joke, and get over yourself.Condolences? I am 4-0 with him. You will learn that your 1st pick isn't where you win your drafts, newb.Nice contribution.Condolences for those who built their teams around him.
Here's what is extremely lame. Monkeysee and OUKurt are the same person, calling out Newb--in different posts. Give me a break. Crazy as this sounds on a fantasy football forum....please...get a life. Both of you--er, I mean, just you. Dont bother with the flames or the PM's...you are outed. Other posters..you have been warned. Engage with this windbag(s) at your own risk.Take care, newb.WiDDoW_MaKeR said:I am 4-0 without him.Isn't calling someone a newb considered extremely lame? Honestly, the first thing that I think of when someone on the internet calls another person a newb... is that the person using the term "newb" has got to be a soft little p-u-s-s-y in real life. Learn how to take a joke, and get over yourself.Condolences? I am 4-0 with him. You will learn that your 1st pick isn't where you win your drafts, newb.Nice contribution.Condolences for those who built their teams around him.
 We're serious businessing in here!Why don't you guys just ignore this ####?  Seriously.  It's like fourth grade.  Just ignore the kids who are picking on people, and they go away.  Nothing's changed 20 years later (or for some...3 years).
We're serious businessing in here!Why don't you guys just ignore this ####?  Seriously.  It's like fourth grade.  Just ignore the kids who are picking on people, and they go away.  Nothing's changed 20 years later (or for some...3 years).I can see why. It's a good offer for him. 2 studs for the price of 1. Larry Johnson should pick it up but I don't think he's going to play like he did in 05-06.Made a deal today for LJ giving up Edge and Braylon Edwards. The LJ owner didn't really hesitate
Correct.JI've learned that when people disregard the language filter they get kicked off of fantasy football websites.Later Newb.WiDDoW_MaKeR said:I am 4-0 without him.Isn't calling someone a newb considered extremely lame? Honestly, the first thing that I think of when someone on the internet calls another person a newb... is that the person using the term "newb" has got to be a soft little p-u-s-s-y in real life. Learn how to take a joke, and get over yourself.Condolences? I am 4-0 with him. You will learn that your 1st pick isn't where you win your drafts, newb.Nice contribution.Condolences for those who built their teams around him.
Turn the tool factor WAY down if you want to keep posting here. TIA.Take care, newb.WiDDoW_MaKeR said:I am 4-0 without him.Isn't calling someone a newb considered extremely lame? Honestly, the first thing that I think of when someone on the internet calls another person a newb... is that the person using the term "newb" has got to be a soft little p-u-s-s-y in real life. Learn how to take a joke, and get over yourself.Condolences? I am 4-0 with him. You will learn that your 1st pick isn't where you win your drafts, newb.Nice contribution.Condolences for those who built their teams around him.
J,For the record, the #### in my post above is c-r-u-d. Just FYI.Sincerely,KeysCorrect.JI've learned that when people disregard the language filter they get kicked off of fantasy football websites.Later Newb.WiDDoW_MaKeR said:I am 4-0 without him.Isn't calling someone a newb considered extremely lame? Honestly, the first thing that I think of when someone on the internet calls another person a newb... is that the person using the term "newb" has got to be a soft little p-u-s-s-y in real life. Learn how to take a joke, and get over yourself.Condolences? I am 4-0 with him. You will learn that your 1st pick isn't where you win your drafts, newb.Nice contribution.Condolences for those who built their teams around him.
I'm working on a deal that would be me sending F.Gore and B.Watson for L.J. and K. Winslow.
 WTF would want to downgrade at two positions in a trade.?
   WTF would want to downgrade at two positions in a trade.?