what happened to the shark pool? (2 Viewers)

[massraider]

It really isn't that hard, and it really is no different than it was 10 years ago.

Agree with this. Probably a pretty good chance that you can find a similar thread from 6 or 7 years ago. It is also this time of year. Lots of new posters. They'll soon disappear. The ones that don't tend to tone it down, or get banned. By the way, a lot of complaining posters aren't really part of the solution.

 

[Run It Up]

What the hell is wrong with people having uninformed, non-authoritarian opinions? I play in leagues with folks who are uninformed and non-authoritarian, it's nice to have a window into what they might be thinking.

I've been doing this long enough to know what advice is good and what is bad...if it's backed up with logic and facts, i'll lsiten, regardless of member-number post count or punctuation. If it's just someone spouting an opinion, it's really easy to discard. Let me help you discern between the two: if no statistic/precedent/direct quote from principle actor is cited, it's opinion. It's that simple. I would prefer to hear a variety of opinions from anyone willing to devote a serious answer.

Stop being lazy and expect the mods to separate the wheat from the chaff, and figure out how to do it yourself. if you don't like DUI/gossip threads, don't click on them. if you don't want to discuss strategy drafting from the 11 spot, don't click on the thread. if you con't care about commish issues, don't click on that thread. If you don't want to discuss Obama v. Romney, stay out of the FFA. If you don't want to engage in WDIS threads, then report them as you see them and call them out on it. If you don't appreciate a particular posters style/opinions, ignore them.

It really isn't that hard, and it really is no different than it was 10 years ago.

Post of the year.

 

[12punch]

It really isn't that hard, and it really is no different than it was 10 years ago.

Agree with this. Probably a pretty good chance that you can find a similar thread from 6 or 7 years ago. It is also this time of year. Lots of new posters. They'll soon disappear. The ones that don't tend to tone it down, or get banned. By the way, a lot of complaining posters aren't really part of the solution.

yeah, but they're part of the problem.judging by this thread, I'd have to imagine the shark pool has gotten a lot better than it was years ago.

 

[brown recluse]

I don't come out very often to chat (kind of quiet you might say) - but I think in some ways, it's all good.

I mean, lot's of people posting - some funny new schtick - some of the old, crabby, "look at me" guys have moved on (don't get me wrong, there are some new attention biotches too *cough* LHUCKS *cough*).

I kinda like it now too...

back to the dark corner of your room....

 

[5Rings]

all this talk about 3 digit member numbers...whatevs. Member number is soo 2010. The cool posters now all have 5 digit post counts. That's the new pecking order.

What about the dorks that pay money for a 3 digit number? Nice to see some old dudes here. Seems to me its the same as it ever was, just different usernames. You learn who to ignore.

 

[ConstruxBoy]

all this talk about 3 digit member numbers...whatevs. Member number is soo 2010. The cool posters now all have 5 digit post counts. That's the new pecking order.

At least until Joe vacates all my posts about Paterno and I drop back down to 4 digits.

 

[wiscstlatlmia]

i will tell you a story at high school back in the day and this does go back in to the day there was a group of guys who grew up earlier than others and through junior high they were the jocks but then bam they hit the end of there growth spurt and that was it and other guys normally the farm kids kept growing and kept getting bigger you know probably becuse they actually went home and worked throwing hay and bringing in cattle and whatnot like real americans not playing with sci fi comic books and guess what by junior varsity all of the old jocks were either last string or could not make the team and you would see them sitting at lunch talking about how the new starter guys who had kept growing and gotten bigger and better from working instead of complaining were spazzes and dweebs and other names like that but guess what brohans those same spazzes and dweebs were the ones playing on friday night having the town cheer for them and leaving with the paper shakers at the end of the night well those old junior high jocks just kept sitting at that table talking about junior high and how they hit some shot in some game that no one was watching or even cared about anyhow and which they probably lost because they stunk up the joint so long story short take it to the bank brohans

Exhibit A for what happened to the Shark Pool.

could not disagree more strongly. Posters like SWC are what keep me around. If I ever see that SWC posted in a thread, I guarantee you I'm clicking and reading, and you can take that to the bank and go tell your grandma.

Yes, I suppose there are others like you that like incoherent, poorly punctuated and unintelligible posts that add nothing to any discussion - but some people have better things to do with their time than to read nonsense like this that is posted in what seems like about every thread.

brohan i am sorry that i bother you so much i guess at the end of the day the bottom line for me is that if i do not like someone i just do not read what they have to type for the world wide web and jeez brohan you just seem to have a lot of anger about stuff and like i have offered to others if you want to talk about it i could send you some messages and try to talk you trhough whatever is going on in your world because it is not worth being so angry about end of the day i bet if you met me in real life you would say man that swc he can not type to save his rear end from a pack of crazy dingos from down under and he has some stuff going on for sure but he works hard and keeps his yard looking nice and would lend me a wrench or an air compressor if i ever needed it so he is not all bad and heck we might even have a garage beer and tune up a engine heck if i know but the point is that the message board world is not the real world and it is not good to let it get to you like that where you are calling me an exhibit a of stupid because frankly even if i am you could sort of keep it to yourself so i hope that it turns around for you and take it to the bank and just let live and so on and so forth and be a brohan a friend would like to have and not just some other creep blasting away on the internet that is the motto i live by

Ok, I'm normally on the side of the old codgers - but this SWC guy is great. I can definately see why some wouldn't like him. But I sure can see why some would like him, too. If it's shtick it's great. If it's not - it's even greater. I'd much rather read stuff from this guy (every once in a while) instead of some of these guys that have to put in their rightous two cents about why you "3 digit" guys shouldn't care about the d-bags invading the house you helped build.I'm more on the side of "respect those that came before you" instead of some of these other guys who blab about how it's their right to do this or that. It's so obvious that you think you're so "right" that you never shut the #### up and actually listen to what some of these OGs are trying to tell you.

Anyway - I think SWC is great entertainment.

 

[corpcow]

What about a new "Shark Pond" forum, which is heavily moderated and invite only?

I'd suggest a "Shark Pasture" forum for the older members who think it stinks now that there are more people using the site and they're consequently less famous. They can talk past greatness, low user numbers, and chew cuds.

Just for the record I wasn't suggesting that this was exclusive to "older" members... But to "better" members. I do t even necessarily think subscriber is a good filter either (though for the record I've been subscribing since, well, forever). And yes better can be highly subjective, so I'm using the term loosely. Maybe it means anyone with X number of posts who haven't been reported, or it means allowing staff members to invite first and giving everyone limited # of invites. Or maybe it's doing more to allow people to vote up good posts instead of just reporting bad ones, and establishing there more than just member # or # of posts. Ideally, though, you're creating an "inner circle" with high quality signal that people would aspire to be in - maybe quality improves everywhere if people want to "earn" their way in, but at the very least it provides a piss-free environment for those who are piss averse.I'd be happy to help implement a reputation system for these boards.Edited to fix grammar and layout from my iPad.

 

[12punch]

What about a new "Shark Pond" forum, which is heavily moderated and invite only?

I'd suggest a "Shark Pasture" forum for the older members who think it stinks now that there are more people using the site and they're consequently less famous. They can talk past greatness, low user numbers, and chew cuds.

Just for the record I wasn't suggesting that this was exclusive to "older" members... But to "better" members. I do t even necessarily think subscriber is a good filter either (though for the record I've been subscribing since, well, forever). And yes better can be highly subjective. But maybe it just means, only people with X number of posts who haven't been reported or whatever, or every staff member gets 5 invites and every invitee gets 1 or something. Then it's an inner circle with high quality signal that people would aspire to be in. The shark pool can remain whatever it is. It might improve if people wanted to earn this spot but at least it would provide a piss-free environment for those who are piss averse.

I'd be happy to help implement a reputation system for these boards.

I can just imagine a whole forum like this thread.

 

[corpcow]

What about a new "Shark Pond" forum, which is heavily moderated and invite only?

I'd suggest a "Shark Pasture" forum for the older members who think it stinks now that there are more people using the site and they're consequently less famous. They can talk past greatness, low user numbers, and chew cuds.

Just for the record I wasn't suggesting that this was exclusive to "older" members... But to "better" members. I do t even necessarily think subscriber is a good filter either (though for the record I've been subscribing since, well, forever). And yes better can be highly subjective. But maybe it just means, only people with X number of posts who haven't been reported or whatever, or every staff member gets 5 invites and every invitee gets 1 or something. Then it's an inner circle with high quality signal that people would aspire to be in. The shark pool can remain whatever it is. It might improve if people wanted to earn this spot but at least it would provide a piss-free environment for those who are piss averse.

I'd be happy to help implement a reputation system for these boards.

I can just imagine a whole forum like this thread.

No, because this thread is the very epitome of low quality noise. All I'm saying is, a place that valued signal over noise would address a lot of these concerns. The shark pool stays what is is and instead of complaining there's a place for those other people to go. And best is, we avoid these kinds of threads just by self-selection.

 

[shadyridr]

SWC rulesLock this thread

 

[THE FANTASY KING]

What about a new "Shark Pond" forum, which is heavily moderated and invite only?

I'd suggest a "Shark Pasture" forum for the older members who think it stinks now that there are more people using the site and they're consequently less famous. They can talk past greatness, low user numbers, and chew cuds.

Just for the record I wasn't suggesting that this was exclusive to "older" members... But to "better" members. I do t even necessarily think subscriber is a good filter either (though for the record I've been subscribing since, well, forever). And yes better can be highly subjective, so I'm using the term loosely. Maybe it means anyone with X number of posts who haven't been reported, or it means allowing staff members to invite first and giving everyone limited # of invites. Or maybe it's doing more to allow people to vote up good posts instead of just reporting bad ones, and establishing there more than just member # or # of posts. Ideally, though, you're creating an "inner circle" with high quality signal that people would aspire to be in - maybe quality improves everywhere if people want to "earn" their way in, but at the very least it provides a piss-free environment for those who are piss averse.I'd be happy to help implement a reputation system for these boards.Edited to fix grammar and layout from my iPad.

I agree with the Mr Cropcow poster. I would be much more akined to sharing some of my more advanced fantasy football epiphany specials if there were sucher an "insider" sub-messageofurm with members that appreciate what advanced fantasy managers are trying to empart on them, and also provide feedback where appropriate. I enjoy sharing my knowledge and information but sometimes it feels like it falls upon death ears here in the Shark Pool as people like to spend more of their time making jokes.I will not stop posting here from time to time or anything, it is not a threat, I just think this would be a good idea.REGARDS,THE FANTASY KING

 

[DoubleG]

What about a new "Shark Pond" forum, which is heavily moderated and invite only?

I'd suggest a "Shark Pasture" forum for the older members who think it stinks now that there are more people using the site and they're consequently less famous. They can talk past greatness, low user numbers, and chew cuds.

Just for the record I wasn't suggesting that this was exclusive to "older" members... But to "better" members. I do t even necessarily think subscriber is a good filter either (though for the record I've been subscribing since, well, forever). And yes better can be highly subjective, so I'm using the term loosely. Maybe it means anyone with X number of posts who haven't been reported, or it means allowing staff members to invite first and giving everyone limited # of invites. Or maybe it's doing more to allow people to vote up good posts instead of just reporting bad ones, and establishing there more than just member # or # of posts. Ideally, though, you're creating an "inner circle" with high quality signal that people would aspire to be in - maybe quality improves everywhere if people want to "earn" their way in, but at the very least it provides a piss-free environment for those who are piss averse.I'd be happy to help implement a reputation system for these boards.Edited to fix grammar and layout from my iPad.

I agree with the Mr Cropcow poster. I would be much more akined to sharing some of my more advanced fantasy football epiphany specials if there were sucher an "insider" sub-messageofurm with members that appreciate what advanced fantasy managers are trying to empart on them, and also provide feedback where appropriate. I enjoy sharing my knowledge and information but sometimes it feels like it falls upon death ears here in the Shark Pool as people like to spend more of their time making jokes.I will not stop posting here from time to time or anything, it is not a threat, I just think this would be a good idea.REGARDS,THE FANTASY KING

Alright, who the ####'s alias is this?

 

[Sarnoff]

The Shart Pool is too large and unwieldy to be of any use. Stuff is scattered in multiple threads all over the place. There's dynasty content mixed in with keeper and redraft threads. It's horrible.

It's finally big enough that breaking it apart into subforums is the right move. I still think there should be four:

Teams, Players, & Game threads

News, Injuries, Trades, and Rumors

Fantasy Football Strategy, Theory, and Discussion

College & other non-NFL football

If you want to talk about an NFL team, a player (in non-fantasy context), or a game, head to one forum for that.

If there's something going on with the league, involving multiple teams, players, breaking news, suspensions, penalties, or "unconfirmed reports", go to the second subforum.

All fantasy-specific content goes in the third subforum. Draft strategies. Management strategies. "QB by Committee", "Where do you draft Julio Jones", "What Defense for week 4" and stuff like that.

College games & players, AFL, whatever non-NFL stuff goes to the fourth subforum.

 

[roadkill1292]

This place would be a lot better if it just banned Cobalt and roadkill1292.

 

[corpcow]

The Shart Pool is too large and unwieldy to be of any use. Stuff is scattered in multiple threads all over the place. There's dynasty content mixed in with keeper and redraft threads. It's horrible.It's finally big enough that breaking it apart into subforums is the right move. I still think there should be four:Teams, Players, & Game threadsNews, Injuries, Trades, and RumorsFantasy Football Strategy, Theory, and DiscussionCollege & other non-NFL football If you want to talk about an NFL team, a player (in non-fantasy context), or a game, head to one forum for that.If there's something going on with the league, involving multiple teams, players, breaking news, suspensions, penalties, or "unconfirmed reports", go to the second subforum.All fantasy-specific content goes in the third subforum. Draft strategies. Management strategies. "QB by Committee", "Where do you draft Julio Jones", "What Defense for week 4" and stuff like that. College games & players, AFL, whatever non-NFL stuff goes to the fourth subforum.

I think, in particularly, separating dynasty from redraft would go a long way. We have one, unwieldy thread that a lot of the dynasty rankings talk is happening in, and especially this time of year, redraft content overwhelms it. ANd of course given the timeframes, analysis is different. Just like we have a IDP forum, we should at the very least have a separate dynasty forum. (I know DynastyGuys.com was an attempted "spinoff" at this, and I'm running mostly private forums at dynastydb.com right now, if anyone is interested).

 

[fatness]

What about a new "Shark Pond" forum, which is heavily moderated and invite only?

I'd suggest a "Shark Pasture" forum for the older members who think it stinks now that there are more people using the site and they're consequently less famous. They can talk past greatness, low user numbers, and chew cuds.

Just for the record I wasn't suggesting that this was exclusive to "older" members... But to "better" members. I do t even necessarily think subscriber is a good filter either (though for the record I've been subscribing since, well, forever). And yes better can be highly subjective. But maybe it just means, only people with X number of posts who haven't been reported or whatever, or every staff member gets 5 invites and every invitee gets 1 or something. Then it's an inner circle with high quality signal that people would aspire to be in. The shark pool can remain whatever it is. It might improve if people wanted to earn this spot but at least it would provide a piss-free environment for those who are piss averse.

I'd be happy to help implement a reputation system for these boards.

I can just imagine a whole forum like this thread.

No, because this thread is the very epitome of low quality noise.

And look who started it --- someone complaining about low quality noise.The entire topic is about wanting a smaller site, with fewer people posting and increased familiarity with each other. There was and is good content here, and the same goes with noise. People just don't recognize names as often, so they put on rose-colored glasses and say it was better "back then".

Wanting a separate elitist forum here, for those who decide to recognize each other as better contributors, is one of the dumber ideas I've heard. If it's free it'll be tough to sell "our forums are free, but you can't use all of them" to new members. And if it's paid well we already have paid content. There really isn't any sense balkanizing the free forums, splitting them but covering the same content.

The people complaining here are just going to complain. There's no need to change anything as a result. Some people from the "old days" who don't hang out here much any more stopped in to tell each other they're better, things were better back then. That's nice. It's not a need to change.

 

[fatness]

This place would be a lot better if it just banned Cobalt and roadkill1292.

Hey, Cobalt's OK.

 

[Hoss Style]

What about a new "Shark Pond" forum, which is heavily moderated and invite only?

I'd suggest a "Shark Pasture" forum for the older members who think it stinks now that there are more people using the site and they're consequently less famous. They can talk past greatness, low user numbers, and chew cuds.

Just for the record I wasn't suggesting that this was exclusive to "older" members... But to "better" members. I do t even necessarily think subscriber is a good filter either (though for the record I've been subscribing since, well, forever). And yes better can be highly subjective. But maybe it just means, only people with X number of posts who haven't been reported or whatever, or every staff member gets 5 invites and every invitee gets 1 or something. Then it's an inner circle with high quality signal that people would aspire to be in. The shark pool can remain whatever it is. It might improve if people wanted to earn this spot but at least it would provide a piss-free environment for those who are piss averse.

I'd be happy to help implement a reputation system for these boards.

I can just imagine a whole forum like this thread.

I still don't understand why you have to take a jab at every one of the older posters who are kicking around ideas. Who cares? Why does it offend you so? If some of these guys have been here 10+ years and they think it's worth a shot to discuss how changes can be made - why take a belittling attitude towards it? Maybe it was better back in the day - maybe it wasn't. Who are we, who have been here a year or so, to say? What's the harm in tossing around ideas to maybe make it better. Sure, there are some d-bag old guys, but the majority of them seem to genuinely care about this place - whether they agree with the OP or not.I just don't get it. It reminds me of when I was 15 years old and scoffed at any suggestion that an adult made to me. Rebelling just to rebel. Maybe these guys know something you don't. Just maybe they could be right? At the very least it's something to be talked about rather than not - and then some quality people leave out of frustration.

As with almost anything, discussing it is better than letting it simmer. I just don't see the reason to get so fired up and make fun of it like you're 100% right and they are 100% wrong.

 

[12punch]

What about a new "Shark Pond" forum, which is heavily moderated and invite only?

I'd suggest a "Shark Pasture" forum for the older members who think it stinks now that there are more people using the site and they're consequently less famous. They can talk past greatness, low user numbers, and chew cuds.

Just for the record I wasn't suggesting that this was exclusive to "older" members... But to "better" members. I do t even necessarily think subscriber is a good filter either (though for the record I've been subscribing since, well, forever). And yes better can be highly subjective. But maybe it just means, only people with X number of posts who haven't been reported or whatever, or every staff member gets 5 invites and every invitee gets 1 or something. Then it's an inner circle with high quality signal that people would aspire to be in. The shark pool can remain whatever it is. It might improve if people wanted to earn this spot but at least it would provide a piss-free environment for those who are piss averse.

I'd be happy to help implement a reputation system for these boards.

I can just imagine a whole forum like this thread.

I still don't understand why you have to take a jab at every one of the older posters who are kicking around ideas.

you seem kind of hypersensitive there, little guy.who was I just taking a jab at?

this thread is a trainwreck and your post is a perfect example.

 

[dickey moe]

This place would be a lot better if it just banned Cobalt and roadkill1292.

You are loved. :grouphug:

 

[madhatter]

you people take make believe football pretty seriously, eh?

 

[SSOG]

you people take make believe football pretty seriously, eh?

You realize you're talking to a group of people who have posted 10,000+ times on a "make-believe football" message board, right? Yeah, we take it pretty seriously.

 

[12punch]

just when I thought this thread had finally been flushed it comes bobbing back up.

 

[cobalt_27]

This place would be a lot better if it just banned Cobalt and roadkill1292.

 

[Hoss Style]

What about a new "Shark Pond" forum, which is heavily moderated and invite only?

I'd suggest a "Shark Pasture" forum for the older members who think it stinks now that there are more people using the site and they're consequently less famous. They can talk past greatness, low user numbers, and chew cuds.

Just for the record I wasn't suggesting that this was exclusive to "older" members... But to "better" members. I do t even necessarily think subscriber is a good filter either (though for the record I've been subscribing since, well, forever). And yes better can be highly subjective. But maybe it just means, only people with X number of posts who haven't been reported or whatever, or every staff member gets 5 invites and every invitee gets 1 or something. Then it's an inner circle with high quality signal that people would aspire to be in. The shark pool can remain whatever it is. It might improve if people wanted to earn this spot but at least it would provide a piss-free environment for those who are piss averse.

I'd be happy to help implement a reputation system for these boards.

I can just imagine a whole forum like this thread.

I still don't understand why you have to take a jab at every one of the older posters who are kicking around ideas.

you seem kind of hypersensitive there, little guy.who was I just taking a jab at?

this thread is a trainwreck and your post is a perfect example.

It's amazing to me that out of everything I posted this is what you come up with. If calling me "little guy" and "hypersensitive" makes you feel more right - go for it! See, I was trying to post without making you look bad - just passing on basic ideas that many of us learn at a young age - stuff like people who have been around longer might know more than us, sometimes it pays to quiet down and listen, etc.

In trying to prove my point with a few paragraphs, you actually proved it for me in just a few sentences. Funny how that works sometimes.

Go ahead and get that last response - I know it'll make you feel better... and frankly I don't mind throwing you a bone.

I realize now it was a mistake to try and reason.

 

[cobalt_27]

I do wish SSOG would post more, though. I completely disagree with him on several main points/arguments, but I don't know if there is anyone (staff included) who informs his opinions with deeper data/analysis than him.

 

[12punch]

sometimes it pays to quiet down

you can start anytimeby the way, please don't use the word 'us' when you talk about me.

 

[SSOG]

I do wish SSOG would post more, though. I completely disagree with him on several main points/arguments, but I don't know if there is anyone (staff included) who informs his opinions with deeper data/analysis than him.

Desires to post more frequently find themselves in conflict with desires to have deeply informed opinions, but I'll see what I can do.

 

[-fish-]

swc is currently the most consistently entertaining poster on the boards, and is one of the few that can cross over seamlessly between the shark pool and the FFA.

 

[joey]

I do wish SSOG would post more, though. I completely disagree with him on several main points/arguments, but I don't know if there is anyone (staff included) who informs his opinions with deeper data/analysis than him.

Desires to post more frequently find themselves in conflict with desires to have deeply informed opinions, but I'll see what I can do.

would you compromise and just give us a new thread with your latest dynasty rankings with only mildly informed opinions?

 

[drummer]

Seems to me a solution to the "bad" posters would be some sort of setup whereby readers can flag posts (similar to the Report button) and the system would keep track of the number of "flags" a poster has received. Then, after some reasonable threshold had been met, maybe some ratio of flags-to-total-posts, the poster would then be automatically blocked by the system from posting for some period of time while still being allowed to be here to read.I don't know what those ratios or thresholds or blocked time periods should be, but a self-policing system would seem to make sense to me. We don't want to punish people for occasional transgressions or because someone flags him when he really shouldn't have been flagged, but over time the repeat offenders and really annoying posters would be exposed and could be rooted out. Again, they would still be allowed by the system to be here and read, but they'd just lose the privilege of posting for some meaningful period of time.

the board i mod on uses a reputation system which tries to do what you are talking about to a large extent. The problem became that people give out positive rep for simple things like linking an article directly from a common news site like NFL.com and then negative rep because someoone disagrees with a bad take(not even rudely). We have continued to use it and really the only people who get enough negative rep for us act on are pure spammers and jerks that we would got to anyway. Footballguys is ran well with reasonable moderation. Many of the problems here are just things that happen with message boards: the industry changes, the posters change, etc. the biggest thing is to not allow the 5- percent tool factor to grow past that. I don't think it has, but even generic FF has caught up with the board so being cutting edge is very difficult.

I hate any Rep function on a message board because it's a poor barometer of what a good post is, and it get's abused. I think the emoticon works to thank or give credit to a post. The Rep function is kind of juvenile to me. I may browse a board and see a poster with a lot of "Rep", and his or her posts don't give me any quality information.--------------------------------------------------------------------------------------I don't play FF. I started coming to FBG and The Shark Pool because there is a lot of good discussion and great info, and it has a ton of content on the free forums here. I like the variety of analysis here, a lot of you guys make great points, and I like how this forum represents the whole League as far as fans. I don't like a single team oriented message board anymore, because those tend to be myopic, almost cult like boards. To me, quality content is king on a message board, and quality content will lead to quality posts, opinion and discussion. Even though I don't play FF, I find the SP a great resource.

 

[Bruce Hammond]

I do wish SSOG would post more, though. I completely disagree with him on several main points/arguments, but I don't know if there is anyone (staff included) who informs his opinions with deeper data/analysis than him.

Desires to post more frequently find themselves in conflict with desires to have deeply informed opinions, but I'll see what I can do.

would you compromise and just give us a new thread with your latest dynasty rankings with only mildly informed opinions?

Hey Joey,SSOG's dynasty rankings can be found at www.dynastyrankings.net and look like they were updated 8/21.

 

[joey]

I do wish SSOG would post more, though. I completely disagree with him on several main points/arguments, but I don't know if there is anyone (staff included) who informs his opinions with deeper data/analysis than him.

Desires to post more frequently find themselves in conflict with desires to have deeply informed opinions, but I'll see what I can do.

would you compromise and just give us a new thread with your latest dynasty rankings with only mildly informed opinions?

Hey Joey,SSOG's dynasty rankings can be found at www.dynastyrankings.net and look like they were updated 8/21.

I mentioned this in another thread but those rankings are by Jason Kirshner (forget his screen name here) not SSOG. SSOG said he's not going to post his rankings there anymore (or this year at least).

 

[Jed]

sometimes it pays to quiet down

you can start anytimeby the way, please don't use the word 'us' when you talk about me.

I'm sure you don't care, but if you keep up the constant tude you'll be out on your butt. Better get another alias lined up.

 

[Epic Problem]

watching the days go by........

 

[TxBuckeye]

I hate any Rep function on a message board because it's a poor barometer of what a good post is, and it get's abused. I think the emoticon works to thank or give credit to a post. The Rep function is kind of juvenile to me. I may browse a board and see a poster with a lot of "Rep", and his or her posts don't give me any quality information.

Visiting any Lhucks thread will quickly show you why your theory won't work. Oh wait, now that I think about it, it is him giving the good posting icon any time anyone even remotely agrees with him, so I guess it would actually inflate the rep of others rather than himself. So maybe it's viable.

 

[LHUCKS]

I hate any Rep function on a message board because it's a poor barometer of what a good post is, and it get's abused. I think the emoticon works to thank or give credit to a post. The Rep function is kind of juvenile to me. I may browse a board and see a poster with a lot of "Rep", and his or her posts don't give me any quality information.

Visiting any Lhucks thread will quickly show you why your theory won't work. Oh wait, now that I think about it, it is him giving the good posting icon any time anyone even remotely agrees with him, so I guess it would actually inflate the rep of others rather than himself. So maybe it's viable.

I actually do the

 

[-jb-]

WTH, I will pile on. I have found success keeping threads I start civil. It's not about having thick skin, like so many think. It's about having the idea that everyone around you has thin skin. Amazing how far a, "what do you think?" will go.

Also, GFY.

 

[Soulfly3]

Also, GFY.

omg. I love guilt free yogurt too!

 

[Bruce Hammond]

I do wish SSOG would post more, though. I completely disagree with him on several main points/arguments, but I don't know if there is anyone (staff included) who informs his opinions with deeper data/analysis than him.

Desires to post more frequently find themselves in conflict with desires to have deeply informed opinions, but I'll see what I can do.

would you compromise and just give us a new thread with your latest dynasty rankings with only mildly informed opinions?

Hey Joey,SSOG's dynasty rankings can be found at www.dynastyrankings.net and look like they were updated 8/21.

I mentioned this in another thread but those rankings are by Jason Kirshner (forget his screen name here) not SSOG. SSOG said he's not going to post his rankings there anymore (or this year at least).

Thanks. Good to know. SSOG links them on his Twitter account so I ###*u*me*d they were still his.

 

[SSOG]

Thanks. Good to know. SSOG links them on his Twitter account so I ###*u*me*d they were still his.

They used to be, but I bowed out and Jason took over starting last season. Still check them out, because Jason and Chris are really sharp dudes who know their stuff.

 

[fatness]

Same stuff said year after year.

 

[BigSteelThrill]

Brutal crap like this.

 

[12punch]

Same stuff said year after year.

Posted 23 October 2003

damn, you're like columbo

 

[Soulfly3]

Same stuff said year after year.

Why do old dudes hate change so much?

 

[kutta]

i will tell you a story at high school back in the day and this does go back in to the day there was a group of guys who grew up earlier than others and through junior high they were the jocks but then bam they hit the end of there growth spurt and that was it and other guys normally the farm kids kept growing and kept getting bigger you know probably becuse they actually went home and worked throwing hay and bringing in cattle and whatnot like real americans not playing with sci fi comic books and guess what by junior varsity all of the old jocks were either last string or could not make the team and you would see them sitting at lunch talking about how the new starter guys who had kept growing and gotten bigger and better from working instead of complaining were spazzes and dweebs and other names like that but guess what brohans those same spazzes and dweebs were the ones playing on friday night having the town cheer for them and leaving with the paper shakers at the end of the night well those old junior high jocks just kept sitting at that table talking about junior high and how they hit some shot in some game that no one was watching or even cared about anyhow and which they probably lost because they stunk up the joint so long story short take it to the bank brohans

Exhibit A for what happened to the Shark Pool.

could not disagree more strongly. Posters like SWC are what keep me around. If I ever see that SWC posted in a thread, I guarantee you I'm clicking and reading, and you can take that to the bank and go tell your grandma.

Yes, I suppose there are others like you that like incoherent, poorly punctuated and unintelligible posts that add nothing to any discussion - but some people have better things to do with their time than to read nonsense like this that is posted in what seems like about every thread.

brohan i am sorry that i bother you so much i guess at the end of the day the bottom line for me is that if i do not like someone i just do not read what they have to type for the world wide web and jeez brohan you just seem to have a lot of anger about stuff and like i have offered to others if you want to talk about it i could send you some messages and try to talk you trhough whatever is going on in your world because it is not worth being so angry about end of the day i bet if you met me in real life you would say man that swc he can not type to save his rear end from a pack of crazy dingos from down under and he has some stuff going on for sure but he works hard and keeps his yard looking nice and would lend me a wrench or an air compressor if i ever needed it so he is not all bad and heck we might even have a garage beer and tune up a engine heck if i know but the point is that the message board world is not the real world and it is not good to let it get to you like that where you are calling me an exhibit a of stupid because frankly even if i am you could sort of keep it to yourself so i hope that it turns around for you and take it to the bank and just let live and so on and so forth and be a brohan a friend would like to have and not just some other creep blasting away on the internet that is the motto i live by

Ok, I'm normally on the side of the old codgers - but this SWC guy is great. I can definately see why some wouldn't like him. But I sure can see why some would like him, too. If it's shtick it's great. If it's not - it's even greater. I'd much rather read stuff from this guy (every once in a while) instead of some of these guys that have to put in their rightous two cents about why you "3 digit" guys shouldn't care about the d-bags invading the house you helped build.I'm more on the side of "respect those that came before you" instead of some of these other guys who blab about how it's their right to do this or that. It's so obvious that you think you're so "right" that you never shut the #### up and actually listen to what some of these OGs are trying to tell you.

Anyway - I think SWC is great entertainment.

Agreed. SWC is brilliant.

 

[12punch]

Same stuff said year after year.

Why do old dudes hate change so much?

I think they just like the attention -- whiny wheel gets the grease and all that.

 

[Soulfly3]

Same stuff said year after year.

Why do old dudes hate change so much?

I think they just like the attention -- whiny wheel gets the grease and all that.

Shark Pool OG's -

 

[12punch]

Same stuff said year after year.

Posted 23 October 2003

damn, you're like columbo

honestly, i think more kids and teens are discovering these boards which might be why a lot of people are acting like them.

hey, I just noticed something -- fred's join date is april 2003......