I'm no longer a Chicagoan, but have been to Haymarket a dozen or so times in the past few years. They make lots of great brews, but I never leave that place without having at least one of their Angry Bird IPAs. Its a style I love - a rye ipa with belgian yeast.Greenbush Delusion Imperial Stout
Any of the Chicagoans recommend something from Haymarket? They are building a new brewery five minutes from me.
How was that? Not sure about a Tequila aged beer.Last night...Hailstorm Vlad the Conquistador tequila barrel aged RIS with chocolate, vanilla, chiles and agave.
If you are a fan of toasty-malt-forward stouts, I'd recommend trying porters and brown ales next. Best way to figure out what you like is just trying a bunch of different stuff. Find a bottle shop that sells singles and go to town. www.beeradvocate.com is a good place to read about different styles and get a feel for what easily available beers are good vs. crap.I was with some big time beer gurus last night, way out of my league. Told them I just was a stout guy and 1 of them said to me that beer is a book and I keep re reading the 1rst chapter and move on to the next chapter. I tried a wicked weed sour for him but wasn't feeling it. Any FBG suggestions for another style as a smooth transition?
This sounds really good.Cigar City Lacto Blackberry. One of the better sours I've had. Delicious.
You'd really like the raspberry, it's probably my favorite of the lacto groves.Did I send you that one?Cigar City Lacto Blackberry. One of the better sours I've had. Delicious.
It was ####### awesome. Had the bourbon barrel aged version over FOBAB weekend and thought it was a little too much. The bourbon completely overpowered everything else. This one had more balance. Great stout on its own and the tequila barrel added some milder barrel goodness.How was that? Not sure about a Tequila aged beer.Last night...Hailstorm Vlad the Conquistador tequila barrel aged RIS with chocolate, vanilla, chiles and agave.
BCBS Regal 2015 - So ####### good. Smooth, no alcohol heat whatsoever. Much better than the BA Plead the 5th from Dark Horse I had yesterday which was very good.
Well ####...now I just may have to go and get it tomorrow.It was ####### awesome. Had the bourbon barrel aged version over FOBAB weekend and thought it was a little too much. The bourbon completely overpowered everything else. This one had more balance. Great stout on its own and the tequila barrel added some milder barrel goodness.How was that? Not sure about a Tequila aged beer.Last night...Hailstorm Vlad the Conquistador tequila barrel aged RIS with chocolate, vanilla, chiles and agave.
BCBS Regal 2015 - So ####### good. Smooth, no alcohol heat whatsoever. Much better than the BA Plead the 5th from Dark Horse I had yesterday which was very good.
To be honest, going in I didn't know what to expect but it exceeded expectations big time. Now...$20 a bomber is a bit steep but after a few pours at the brewpub, the decision was much easier to purchase one to go.
Maybe try a hoppy stout/porter or even a black IPA as a transition into hoppier beers. I agree with CDL, sours are on the opposite side of the spectrum. I can send you a few from Chicago that are pretty good if you want to work something out.If you are a fan of toasty-malt-forward stouts, I'd recommend trying porters and brown ales next. Best way to figure out what you like is just trying a bunch of different stuff. Find a bottle shop that sells singles and go to town.www.beeradvocate.com is a good place to read about different styles and get a feel for what easily available beers are good vs. crap.I was with some big time beer gurus last night, way out of my league. Told them I just was a stout guy and 1 of them said to me that beer is a book and I keep re reading the 1rst chapter and move on to the next chapter. I tried a wicked weed sour for him but wasn't feeling it. Any FBG suggestions for another style as a smooth transition?
As a sidebar, they didn't do you any favors having jump into the deep end with sours. Radically different from a stout, and definitely an acquired taste. There are a ton of styles I'd personally recommend to a stout fan and relative newcomer before a sour / wild ale.
I know man...love these barrel aged beers. And it's hurting the bank account big time....Well ####...now I just may have to go and get it tomorrow.It was ####### awesome. Had the bourbon barrel aged version over FOBAB weekend and thought it was a little too much. The bourbon completely overpowered everything else. This one had more balance. Great stout on its own and the tequila barrel added some milder barrel goodness.How was that? Not sure about a Tequila aged beer.Last night...Hailstorm Vlad the Conquistador tequila barrel aged RIS with chocolate, vanilla, chiles and agave.
BCBS Regal 2015 - So ####### good. Smooth, no alcohol heat whatsoever. Much better than the BA Plead the 5th from Dark Horse I had yesterday which was very good.
To be honest, going in I didn't know what to expect but it exceeded expectations big time. Now...$20 a bomber is a bit steep but after a few pours at the brewpub, the decision was much easier to purchase one to go.
Yeah took me a few times before I started to like sours and barrel aged stouts.Maybe try a hoppy stout/porter or even a black IPA as a transition into hoppier beers. I agree with CDL, sours are on the opposite side of the spectrum. I can send you a few from Chicago that are pretty good if you want to work something out.If you are a fan of toasty-malt-forward stouts, I'd recommend trying porters and brown ales next. Best way to figure out what you like is just trying a bunch of different stuff. Find a bottle shop that sells singles and go to town.www.beeradvocate.com is a good place to read about different styles and get a feel for what easily available beers are good vs. crap.I was with some big time beer gurus last night, way out of my league. Told them I just was a stout guy and 1 of them said to me that beer is a book and I keep re reading the 1rst chapter and move on to the next chapter. I tried a wicked weed sour for him but wasn't feeling it. Any FBG suggestions for another style as a smooth transition?
As a sidebar, they didn't do you any favors having jump into the deep end with sours. Radically different from a stout, and definitely an acquired taste. There are a ton of styles I'd personally recommend to a stout fan and relative newcomer before a sour / wild ale.
I didn't but was close (@UIC for a swim meet) and by the time we could leave the line was over an hour and half and the vanilla big hugs was already gone.I know man...love these barrel aged beers. And it's hurting the bank account big time....Well ####...now I just may have to go and get it tomorrow.It was ####### awesome. Had the bourbon barrel aged version over FOBAB weekend and thought it was a little too much. The bourbon completely overpowered everything else. This one had more balance. Great stout on its own and the tequila barrel added some milder barrel goodness.How was that? Not sure about a Tequila aged beer.Last night...Hailstorm Vlad the Conquistador tequila barrel aged RIS with chocolate, vanilla, chiles and agave.
BCBS Regal 2015 - So ####### good. Smooth, no alcohol heat whatsoever. Much better than the BA Plead the 5th from Dark Horse I had yesterday which was very good.
To be honest, going in I didn't know what to expect but it exceeded expectations big time. Now...$20 a bomber is a bit steep but after a few pours at the brewpub, the decision was much easier to purchase one to go.
Did you go up to Half Acre for the Big Hugs release?
I try to avoid all of that wait in line crap. Ended up with one from The Open Bottle anyway. Regular, not vanilla.I didn't but was close (@UIC for a swim meet) and by the time we could leave the line was over an hour and half and the vanilla big hugs was already gone.I know man...love these barrel aged beers. And it's hurting the bank account big time....Well ####...now I just may have to go and get it tomorrow.It was ####### awesome. Had the bourbon barrel aged version over FOBAB weekend and thought it was a little too much. The bourbon completely overpowered everything else. This one had more balance. Great stout on its own and the tequila barrel added some milder barrel goodness.How was that? Not sure about a Tequila aged beer.Last night...Hailstorm Vlad the Conquistador tequila barrel aged RIS with chocolate, vanilla, chiles and agave.
BCBS Regal 2015 - So ####### good. Smooth, no alcohol heat whatsoever. Much better than the BA Plead the 5th from Dark Horse I had yesterday which was very good.
To be honest, going in I didn't know what to expect but it exceeded expectations big time. Now...$20 a bomber is a bit steep but after a few pours at the brewpub, the decision was much easier to purchase one to go.
Did you go up to Half Acre for the Big Hugs release?
Yeah I have a couple regulars as well but really wanted a vanilla. Might try to get vanilla yesterday but not sure. You getting more BCBS on the 2nd release?I try to avoid all of that wait in line crap. Ended up with one from The Open Bottle anyway. Regular, not vanilla.I didn't but was close (@UIC for a swim meet) and by the time we could leave the line was over an hour and half and the vanilla big hugs was already gone.I know man...love these barrel aged beers. And it's hurting the bank account big time....Well ####...now I just may have to go and get it tomorrow.It was ####### awesome. Had the bourbon barrel aged version over FOBAB weekend and thought it was a little too much. The bourbon completely overpowered everything else. This one had more balance. Great stout on its own and the tequila barrel added some milder barrel goodness.How was that? Not sure about a Tequila aged beer.Last night...Hailstorm Vlad the Conquistador tequila barrel aged RIS with chocolate, vanilla, chiles and agave.
BCBS Regal 2015 - So ####### good. Smooth, no alcohol heat whatsoever. Much better than the BA Plead the 5th from Dark Horse I had yesterday which was very good.
To be honest, going in I didn't know what to expect but it exceeded expectations big time. Now...$20 a bomber is a bit steep but after a few pours at the brewpub, the decision was much easier to purchase one to go.
Did you go up to Half Acre for the Big Hugs release?
Not going to chase it. Guy at a local ####hole store I have found said he will put another aside for me. Only one I would go out of my way for is coffee I think. Otherwise I am cool with a few regulars.Yeah I have a couple regulars as well but really wanted a vanilla. Might try to get vanilla yesterday but not sure. You getting more BCBS on the 2nd release?I try to avoid all of that wait in line crap. Ended up with one from The Open Bottle anyway. Regular, not vanilla.I didn't but was close (@UIC for a swim meet) and by the time we could leave the line was over an hour and half and the vanilla big hugs was already gone.I know man...love these barrel aged beers. And it's hurting the bank account big time....Well ####...now I just may have to go and get it tomorrow.It was ####### awesome. Had the bourbon barrel aged version over FOBAB weekend and thought it was a little too much. The bourbon completely overpowered everything else. This one had more balance. Great stout on its own and the tequila barrel added some milder barrel goodness.How was that? Not sure about a Tequila aged beer.Last night...Hailstorm Vlad the Conquistador tequila barrel aged RIS with chocolate, vanilla, chiles and agave.
BCBS Regal 2015 - So ####### good. Smooth, no alcohol heat whatsoever. Much better than the BA Plead the 5th from Dark Horse I had yesterday which was very good.
To be honest, going in I didn't know what to expect but it exceeded expectations big time. Now...$20 a bomber is a bit steep but after a few pours at the brewpub, the decision was much easier to purchase one to go.
Did you go up to Half Acre for the Big Hugs release?
Only missing coffee and I'll get one on Tuesday. Getting another rare as well, might get a few more regals too, but so f'ing expensive.Not going to chase it. Guy at a local ####hole store I have found said he will put another aside for me. Only one I would go out of my way for is coffee I think. Otherwise I am cool with a few regulars.Yeah I have a couple regulars as well but really wanted a vanilla. Might try to get vanilla yesterday but not sure. You getting more BCBS on the 2nd release?I try to avoid all of that wait in line crap. Ended up with one from The Open Bottle anyway. Regular, not vanilla.I didn't but was close (@UIC for a swim meet) and by the time we could leave the line was over an hour and half and the vanilla big hugs was already gone.I know man...love these barrel aged beers. And it's hurting the bank account big time....Well ####...now I just may have to go and get it tomorrow.It was ####### awesome. Had the bourbon barrel aged version over FOBAB weekend and thought it was a little too much. The bourbon completely overpowered everything else. This one had more balance. Great stout on its own and the tequila barrel added some milder barrel goodness.How was that? Not sure about a Tequila aged beer.Last night...Hailstorm Vlad the Conquistador tequila barrel aged RIS with chocolate, vanilla, chiles and agave.
BCBS Regal 2015 - So ####### good. Smooth, no alcohol heat whatsoever. Much better than the BA Plead the 5th from Dark Horse I had yesterday which was very good.
To be honest, going in I didn't know what to expect but it exceeded expectations big time. Now...$20 a bomber is a bit steep but after a few pours at the brewpub, the decision was much easier to purchase one to go.
Did you go up to Half Acre for the Big Hugs release?
Yeah you did. I was trying to think where it came from. Really nice neer, thanks.You'd really like the raspberry, it's probably my favorite of the lacto groves.Did I send you that one?Cigar City Lacto Blackberry. One of the better sours I've had. Delicious.
Seems to me like a doppelbock would be a decent transition away from stouts. Dark enough to have some of the same character but at the same time vastly different. And then I think you can move in a lot of different directions from doppelbocks...regular bocks of other styles, barleywines and wheatwines, etc. Most people transition from lighter beer from darker beer so it's a little odd to see people moving the other way across the spectrum.If you are a fan of toasty-malt-forward stouts, I'd recommend trying porters and brown ales next. Best way to figure out what you like is just trying a bunch of different stuff. Find a bottle shop that sells singles and go to town.www.beeradvocate.com is a good place to read about different styles and get a feel for what easily available beers are good vs. crap.I was with some big time beer gurus last night, way out of my league. Told them I just was a stout guy and 1 of them said to me that beer is a book and I keep re reading the 1rst chapter and move on to the next chapter. I tried a wicked weed sour for him but wasn't feeling it. Any FBG suggestions for another style as a smooth transition?
As a sidebar, they didn't do you any favors having jump into the deep end with sours. Radically different from a stout, and definitely an acquired taste. There are a ton of styles I'd personally recommend to a stout fan and relative newcomer before a sour / wild ale.
thanks lion,If you are a fan of toasty-malt-forward stouts, I'd recommend trying porters and brown ales next. Best way to figure out what you like is just trying a bunch of different stuff. Find a bottle shop that sells singles and go to town.www.beeradvocate.com is a good place to read about different styles and get a feel for what easily available beers are good vs. crap.I was with some big time beer gurus last night, way out of my league. Told them I just was a stout guy and 1 of them said to me that beer is a book and I keep re reading the 1rst chapter and move on to the next chapter. I tried a wicked weed sour for him but wasn't feeling it. Any FBG suggestions for another style as a smooth transition?
As a sidebar, they didn't do you any favors having jump into the deep end with sours. Radically different from a stout, and definitely an acquired taste. There are a ton of styles I'd personally recommend to a stout fan and relative newcomer before a sour / wild ale.
thanks dit,Maybe try a hoppy stout/porter or even a black IPA as a transition into hoppier beers. I agree with CDL, sours are on the opposite side of the spectrum. I can send you a few from Chicago that are pretty good if you want to work something out.If you are a fan of toasty-malt-forward stouts, I'd recommend trying porters and brown ales next. Best way to figure out what you like is just trying a bunch of different stuff. Find a bottle shop that sells singles and go to town.www.beeradvocate.com is a good place to read about different styles and get a feel for what easily available beers are good vs. crap.I was with some big time beer gurus last night, way out of my league. Told them I just was a stout guy and 1 of them said to me that beer is a book and I keep re reading the 1rst chapter and move on to the next chapter. I tried a wicked weed sour for him but wasn't feeling it. Any FBG suggestions for another style as a smooth transition?
As a sidebar, they didn't do you any favors having jump into the deep end with sours. Radically different from a stout, and definitely an acquired taste. There are a ton of styles I'd personally recommend to a stout fan and relative newcomer before a sour / wild ale.
thanks tasker,Seems to me like a doppelbock would be a decent transition away from stouts. Dark enough to have some of the same character but at the same time vastly different. And then I think you can move in a lot of different directions from doppelbocks...regular bocks of other styles, barleywines and wheatwines, etc. Most people transition from lighter beer from darker beer so it's a little odd to see people moving the other way across the spectrum.If you are a fan of toasty-malt-forward stouts, I'd recommend trying porters and brown ales next. Best way to figure out what you like is just trying a bunch of different stuff. Find a bottle shop that sells singles and go to town.www.beeradvocate.com is a good place to read about different styles and get a feel for what easily available beers are good vs. crap.I was with some big time beer gurus last night, way out of my league. Told them I just was a stout guy and 1 of them said to me that beer is a book and I keep re reading the 1rst chapter and move on to the next chapter. I tried a wicked weed sour for him but wasn't feeling it. Any FBG suggestions for another style as a smooth transition?
As a sidebar, they didn't do you any favors having jump into the deep end with sours. Radically different from a stout, and definitely an acquired taste. There are a ton of styles I'd personally recommend to a stout fan and relative newcomer before a sour / wild ale.
thanks again lion.If you definitely dislike IPAs, I'm guessing you should stay more on the malt-forward or yeast-forward side of the spectrum. Big hop-bombs are definitely more of a US thing for the most part, so you might want to look into exploring some of the classic styles from Germany / Belgium / England. If you're a dark beer fan, Belgian dubbels, quads, and strong dark ales are a great place to start. If you want to explore classic European brewing at it's best, you can do way worse than looking at the various Trappist monastic beers -- Rochefort and Chimay are very easy to get and spectacular. Huge malt character, not hoppy, and will introduce you to the wonderful world of Belgian yeast. Also second the doppelbock recommendation -- Ayinger Celebrator is really easy to find and is one of my all time favorite beers, period. Really, anything from the big old German breweries is likely to be pretty darn good -- Weihenstephaner, Ayinger, Franziskaner, Hacker-Pschorr, etc. Start with Samuel Smith's for English beer IMO -- their Porter is one of the best in the world, and you really can't go terribly wrong with anything they make IMO.
This.And welcome! Your taste buds will thank you while your bank account (and maybe occasionally your wife LOL) is swearing at you.
They really do. I'd love to know what it is exactly.Tree House Curiosity Twenty Three IPA. Don't know what it is about New England, but they do hops better there than anywhere else.