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What to expect from Vereen when he returns (1 Viewer)

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Shane Vereen practiced today. It looks like he's on track to be activated for week 11 after the Pats bye week. What should we expect from him? In week 1 he led the team in carries with 14 and yards with 101. He added seven receptions for 58 yards.

Is it realistic that he comes close to these numbers on a regular basis the rest of the year? Brady doesn't seem himself and there are 3 other RBs getting playing time.

I believe that he's the most talented and versitile RB on the team and gets close to his week 1 production, if not upon his return week 11 then starting week 12 and will reward the owner that held him/picked him up. What say you?

 
I think he is the most explosive RB on the team, providing big play, homerun ability as a runner and a receiver. That said, its probably unrealistic to expect numbers close to week 1. I think an expectation of 12-15 carries and 4 receptions for 90+ total yards is not out of the realm of possibility.

 
I wouldnt expect those numbers again but if he does hes a lottery ticket. Id prefer to use him as a flex in my ppr league and think hes an ideal fit there. Im hoping he provides something their offense is missing-explosiveness-and that even Belicheck cant keep him off the field now. Im trying to move Ridley now while he has recovered some of his value because of Vereen even though they play different roles

 
What to expect from Vereen when he returns
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Awesomeness?

{Kidding}

I've held all year. I can't think of anyone on the WW or via trade I have passed on who has his possibile production.

The Pats have a poor passing matchup now, then a bye, then another iffy game week 11 vs Carolina.

What I'm hoping for is that 1. Brady gets some time to heal that hand (if necessary, not sure if that's really affecting him...), 2. that the Pats recalibrate and craft a gameplan that works, and 3. they emerge with Gronk, Vereen, and Dobson as the key drivers for a passing game more like what we're familiar with. Vereen's real value is in potential big plays as a receiver in my opinion.

 
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I've been holding onto Vereen since about Week 3 and I echo the sentiments above about not regretting having held onto him for that duration (picked up Percy around the same time). The upside both presented was simply worth the squeeze down the line but the key was to feel comfortable enough about making the playoffs.

Fact of the matter is that the Pats offense has really struggled all year. To me, this has had more to do (or at least as much) with reliability than explosiveness. So for a Vereen to come back into the lineup, I would think he should be good for 15-16 touches/game with 5-6 of those being in the passing game, and at least 3-4 of those being designed plays to get him into the open field.

With that said, I think Week 1 remains a best-case scenario and he's more likely to resemble a Fred Jackson level player versus true game breaker. That said, still a weekly play.

 
Does anyone recommend picking up Vereen and dropping any of my RBs, can only roster 6. If he passes Ridley in the depth chart then Ridley will probably be useless for me. Roster in sig.

 
SengerCJ said:
Does anyone recommend picking up Vereen and dropping any of my RBs, can only roster 6. If he passes Ridley in the depth chart then Ridley will probably be useless for me. Roster in sig.
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Trade a RB for a WR, cut Crabtree and pick up Vereen.

 
I'm thinking about dropping Chris Johnson for him. I want to see how this split with Greene goes tomorrow first.

 
NREC34 said:
I'm thinking about dropping Chris Johnson for him. I want to see how this split with Greene goes tomorrow first.
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Chris Johnson?....you have to have a better running back to drop than him. Great schedule for the rest of the season.

I'm probably going to try a RB and WR for a WR upgrade or a RB and RB for a RB upgrade to pick him up.

 
I think he will come back just fine. He hurt his hand, so not like he regressed physically while he was off. It'll take him a week or two to get into game shape, but even in those 1st couple games back I can easily see him being productive.

 
BUMP

Vereen returns this week against Carolina. Good timing, as it looks like Mike James just wrecked his ankle. Anyhoo, think he steps right in as the main pass-catching RB again? The other guys have looked good, but none of them offer what Vereen offers. A dynamic receiver who is a threat to go the distance on any play.

I think I just answered my own question. Giddy up! :banned:

 
Raider Nation said:
BUMP

Vereen returns this week against Carolina. Good timing, as it looks like Mike James just wrecked his ankle. Anyhoo, think he steps right in as the main pass-catching RB again? The other guys have looked good, but none of them offer what Vereen offers. A dynamic receiver who is a threat to go the distance on any play.

I think I just answered my own question. Giddy up! :banned:
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It obvioulsly continues to be RBBC to an extent, but I think you see Blount and Bolden dissapear. I'd rather have Vereen than Ridley once he's back. The first game seemed to indicate he was the lead of the committee had he not gotten hurt.

 
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Kinda glad it was "just" an injured wrist and nothing lower-body related. You know he's been running and doing cardio training over the past several weeks, so as long as the wrist is good to go, there's really no reason he can't step right back in. You're not expecting tough carries or goal line duty out of him anyway. Give me 8-10 rushes and 4-6 catches, and the numbers will be there.

 
Just to refresh everyone's memory, he played one game this season. Then they found out he was hurt after the game.

In the week 1 game at Buffalo, here were his numbers:

14 carries, 101 yards

7 catches, 58 yards

Dynamic.

 
Raider Nation said:
BUMP

Vereen returns this week against Carolina. Good timing, as it looks like Mike James just wrecked his ankle. Anyhoo, think he steps right in as the main pass-catching RB again? The other guys have looked good, but none of them offer what Vereen offers. A dynamic receiver who is a threat to go the distance on any play.

I think I just answered my own question. Giddy up! :banned:
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According to Josh McDaniels today:

Q: We saw what Shane Vereen did in the season opener, so with him being eligible to return from his injury this week, what are your thoughts about getting him back in the mix and what he brings to the offense?

JM: Shane is a good football player. As soon as he is ready and able to help us and we are able to play him, certainly he will have a role in the game. He definitely did make a big impact in game one. I don't know if we can expect him to do that right off the bat in his first game back, whenever that is. We'll look forward to having him back. He is a really good kid, a great teammate and a good football player that can help us. So, we're looking forward to that.

 
21 career games, all with NE

5 TDs

4 games of 10+ fantasy points @ FBG scoring

Point out everything that has changed (different WRs, no Woodhead, no Hernandez), and I'll point out the things that haven't changed (system, coaches, Brady, Gronk, Ridley).

 
davearm said:
21 career games, all with NE

5 TDs

4 games of 10+ fantasy points @ FBG scoring

Point out everything that has changed (different WRs, no Woodhead, no Hernandez), and I'll point out the things that haven't changed (system, coaches, Brady, Gronk, Ridley).
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Then I'll point out, scared riddle owner.

 
I own in a dyno that I will depending on him to be my RB2. I'm really excited to have him back but at the same time can't help but think he may be a gameplan specific guy who could be a bit feast or famine for a running back.

I'm prepared for a 5 pt game or two and hoping for a 30 pt game or two the rest of the season.

 
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drfeelgood said:
Raider Nation said:
BUMP

Vereen returns this week against Carolina. Good timing, as it looks like Mike James just wrecked his ankle. Anyhoo, think he steps right in as the main pass-catching RB again? The other guys have looked good, but none of them offer what Vereen offers. A dynamic receiver who is a threat to go the distance on any play.

I think I just answered my own question. Giddy up! :banned:
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According to Josh McDaniels today:Q: We saw what Shane Vereen did in the season opener, so with him being eligible to return from his injury this week, what are your thoughts about getting him back in the mix and what he brings to the offense?

JM: Shane is a good football player. As soon as he is ready and able to help us and we are able to play him, certainly he will have a role in the game. He definitely did make a big impact in game one. I don't know if we can expect him to do that right off the bat in his first game back, whenever that is. We'll look forward to having him back. He is a really good kid, a great teammate and a good football player that can help us. So, we're looking forward to that.
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Just a guess, but it's the patriot way to not give anything away. Maybe he's not ready to play yet but if his wrist is fine, I don't know why they wouldn't use him against a very good defense.

 
Reegus said:
How about you show his stats over the last 4 games including play offs.
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12/30/12

8 carries/38 yards

1/13/13

7 carries/41 yards/TD

5 catches/83 yards/2 TDs

1/20/13

4 carries/16 yards

2 catches/22 yards

9/8/13

14 carries/101 yards

7 catches/58 yards

 
Reegus said:
How about you show his stats over the last 4 games including play offs.
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This is precisely the myopia that is so puzzling. We have a 21 game sample, yet folks want to ignore the majority of it, and focus on the slice that paints the rosiest picture.Since 4 games is significant, I'd point out that last year, Vereen had games of 9.9, 1.6, 11.1 and 19.3. Just when he looked like a solid RB2, he proceeded to put up 4 straight absolute stinkers. 5, actually... 4.0, 1.4, 0.4, 0.0, 3.8.

 
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davearm said:
Reegus said:
How about you show his stats over the last 4 games including play offs.
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This is precisely the myopia that is so puzzling. We have a 21 game sample, yet folks want to ignore the majority of it, and focus on the slice that paints the rosiest picture.Since 4 games is significant, I'd point out that last year, Vereen had games of 9.9, 1.6, 11.6, and 19. Just when he looked like a solid RB2, he proceeded to put up 4 straight absolute stinkers. 5, actually.
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Was there any reason(s) for the stinkers? I don't recall. Injury? Lack of touches?

 
davearm said:
Reegus said:
How about you show his stats over the last 4 games including play offs.
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This is precisely the myopia that is so puzzling. We have a 21 game sample, yet folks want to ignore the majority of it, and focus on the slice that paints the rosiest picture.Since 4 games is significant, I'd point out that last year, Vereen had games of 9.9, 1.6, 11.6, and 19. Just when he looked like a solid RB2, he proceeded to put up 4 straight absolute stinkers. 5, actually.
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How about we evaluate the fresh piece of pie, not the moldy irrelevant piece of pie.

 
ryno1980 said:
davearm said:
Reegus said:
How about you show his stats over the last 4 games including play offs.
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This is precisely the myopia that is so puzzling. We have a 21 game sample, yet folks want to ignore the majority of it, and focus on the slice that paints the rosiest picture.Since 4 games is significant, I'd point out that last year, Vereen had games of 9.9, 1.6, 11.6, and 19. Just when he looked like a solid RB2, he proceeded to put up 4 straight absolute stinkers. 5, actually.
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Was there any reason(s) for the stinkers? I don't recall. Injury? Lack of touches?
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Different year.

There's a thread that discussed all this preseason but the difference is no Hernandez, Welker, Woodhead or Lloyd. If you believe that Brady of the first half of the year is what we will see 2nd half then it's moot, but if you think something like the old numbers can come back then Vereen could be playing an important role in the passing game (as opposed to Ridley).

 
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Tend to think of him as very similar to Sproles as a fantasy player....he is a threat for more carries but a feast or famine guy....nice option for your flex IMO due to big game potential but expect some ugly games too

 
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