Why do we keep putting up with the South? (5 Viewers)

[Henry Ford]

So when Otis arrives (probably still on his way to work), he'll want to compare the top cities again. Nothing in the South is going to beat NYC, so we should just throw Jacksonville at it and take the L. I assume he'll launch Chicago 2nd. That's also a tough matchup, so we can go with Little Rock and take another L. After that, I think we can start using our good cities (DC, Miami, NO, Nashville, etc.) and get a few Ws. It's going to be tough to win the Cities battle, but we can make a good effort.

If we get down to smaller cities, Charleston and Savannah are going to kick ###.

I'll take New Orleans over New York any day of the week and twice during Mardi Gras.

 

[Thunderlips]

Suppose you love family. You love family so much that when it's time to marry, what could be more natural than hooking up with somebody you've known forever? But some communities might scorn you for such a liaison. You need to find somewhere that is warm and accepting, where the term "in-bred" is not spoken of in disdain, but as a source of pride. Where can you go?

Delaware.

You can get a pass from me. You're OK.

 

[The Commish]

So when Otis arrives (probably still on his way to work), he'll want to compare the top cities again. Nothing in the South is going to beat NYC, so we should just throw Jacksonville at it and take the L. I assume he'll launch Chicago 2nd. That's also a tough matchup, so we can go with Little Rock and take another L. After that, I think we can start using our good cities (DC, Miami, NO, Nashville, etc.) and get a few Ws. It's going to be tough to win the Cities battle, but we can make a good effort.

If we get down to smaller cities, Charleston and Savannah are going to kick ###.

If there's a top 15 for the country, I'd take 6-7 in the top 15 over 3-4 and them being in the top 5. Agree with this plan

 

[Thunderlips]

I am going to disagree with BB on the education thing. There are some really, really good schools in the south. UNC is one of the best public systems in the country as one example. And be careful with the broadbrush on k-12. Lots of really good school systems in the south. Obviously some bad ones as well. But people might be surprised at some of the northern states that lose the literacy race to southern states.

How much has the South improved since Northerners started coming there? Kind of ironic that Southerners are calling it a victory when they're more or less being colonized by the North.

Assimilation, not colonization.

So economy, jobs, property value and an increase in ATPM* all coincide with Northerners(and as BB pointed out...Westerners) taking the South over and you call that assimilation? Face it, Cletus.....cheap land.....Northerners hoodwinked and beat you guys...AGAIN!. If you Sons of the South aren't complaining about the Northern Invasion already (and I know most of you are)....wait until a few years when we really ramp it up....Search your feelings...you know it be true.

*Average Tooths Per Mouth.

 

[Henry Ford]

I am going to disagree with BB on the education thing. There are some really, really good schools in the south. UNC is one of the best public systems in the country as one example. And be careful with the broadbrush on k-12. Lots of really good school systems in the south. Obviously some bad ones as well. But people might be surprised at some of the northern states that lose the literacy race to southern states.

How much has the South improved since Northerners started coming there? Kind of ironic that Southerners are calling it a victory when they're more or less being colonized by the North.

Assimilation, not colonization.

So economy, jobs, property value and an increase in ATPM* all coincide with Northerners(and as BB pointed out...Westerners) taking the South over and you call that assimilation? Face it, Cletus.....cheap land.....Northerners hoodwinked and beat you guys...AGAIN!. If you Sons of the South aren't complaining about the Northern Invasion already (and I know most of you are)....wait until a few years when we really ramp it up....Search you're feelings...you know it be true.

*Average Tooths Per Mouth.

It baffles me that you Northerners claim some sort of educational superiority.

 

[dgreen]

I am going to disagree with BB on the education thing. There are some really, really good schools in the south. UNC is one of the best public systems in the country as one example. And be careful with the broadbrush on k-12. Lots of really good school systems in the south. Obviously some bad ones as well. But people might be surprised at some of the northern states that lose the literacy race to southern states.

You're going to stack UNC up against all the Ivys? Come on.

The Ivys are overrated. 8 schools, take out Brown, which is a joke, that leaves 7 (and Cornell is a close call). UNC, Duke, Vandy, UT, Tulane, Rice, UVA are all in that class (or better).

William and Mary

 

[James Daulton]

I declare Maryland to be neutral and both a Northern AND Southern state.

We combine the high incomes, good schools, and high taxes of the Northern states, with the great seafood, decent weather, history of farming, and friendlier people (friendlier than most in the North anyway) of the South. I am of course excluding Baltimore from all of the above.

 

[dgreen]

And WVU is usually one of the top party schools every year.

 

[Greggity]

I am going to disagree with BB on the education thing. There are some really, really good schools in the south. UNC is one of the best public systems in the country as one example. And be careful with the broadbrush on k-12. Lots of really good school systems in the south. Obviously some bad ones as well. But people might be surprised at some of the northern states that lose the literacy race to southern states.

How much has the South improved since Northerners started coming there? Kind of ironic that Southerners are calling it a victory when they're more or less being colonized by the North.

Assimilation, not colonization.

So economy, jobs, property value and an increase in ATPM* all coincide with Northerners(and as BB pointed out...Westerners) taking the South over and you call that assimilation? Face it, Cletus.....cheap land.....Northerners hoodwinked and beat you guys...AGAIN!. If you Sons of the South aren't complaining about the Northern Invasion already (and I know most of you are)....wait until a few years when we really ramp it up....Search you're feelings...you know it be true.

*Average Tooths Per Mouth.

It baffles me that you Northerners claim some sort of educational superiority.

Because they are spoiled brats, thats normally why i dont like them. Entitled snobs...

 

[johnnycakes]

Fwiw, Tejas has some of the top public high schools in the country according to US News.

ETA: I am somewhat skeptical of the report, however, because Lexington didn't even make their top 10 in Massachusetts. In most surveys I've seen, Lexington is always in the top 5 state-wide. Families move here especially for the schools... once their kids graduate, they move to a lower-rent area.

 

[dgreen]

I declare Maryland to be neutral and both a Northern AND Southern state.

We combine the high incomes, good schools, and high taxes of the Northern states, with the great seafood, decent weather, history of farming, and friendlier people (friendlier than most in the North anyway) of the South. I am of course excluding Baltimore from all of the above.

We'll make improvements to Baltimore. It's a city with good bones, so it can easily be turned. Since the Chesapeake Bay is so important to the South, we'll need Baltimore to be a really important city.

 

[Thunderlips]

I am going to disagree with BB on the education thing. There are some really, really good schools in the south. UNC is one of the best public systems in the country as one example. And be careful with the broadbrush on k-12. Lots of really good school systems in the south. Obviously some bad ones as well. But people might be surprised at some of the northern states that lose the literacy race to southern states.

How much has the South improved since Northerners started coming there? Kind of ironic that Southerners are calling it a victory when they're more or less being colonized by the North.

Assimilation, not colonization.

So economy, jobs, property value and an increase in ATPM* all coincide with Northerners(and as BB pointed out...Westerners) taking the South over and you call that assimilation? Face it, Cletus.....cheap land.....Northerners hoodwinked and beat you guys...AGAIN!. If you Sons of the South aren't complaining about the Northern Invasion already (and I know most of you are)....wait until a few years when we really ramp it up....Search you're feelings...you know it be true.

*Average Tooths Per Mouth.

It baffles me that you Northerners claim some sort of educational superiority.

The you're I corrected. The Tooths were an attempt to engage with words a Southerner might feel more comfortable.

 

[bigbottom]

I am going to disagree with BB on the education thing. There are some really, really good schools in the south. UNC is one of the best public systems in the country as one example. And be careful with the broadbrush on k-12. Lots of really good school systems in the south. Obviously some bad ones as well. But people might be surprised at some of the northern states that lose the literacy race to southern states.

You're going to stack UNC up against all the Ivys? Come on.

The Ivys are overrated. 8 schools, take out Brown, which is a joke, that leaves 7 (and Cornell is a close call). UNC, Duke, Vandy, UT, Tulane, Rice, UVA are all in that class (or better).

Are there good schools in the South? Sure. But trying to argue that South beats the North in higher education generally just causes you to lose credibility, IMO.

 

[Henry Ford]

I am going to disagree with BB on the education thing. There are some really, really good schools in the south. UNC is one of the best public systems in the country as one example. And be careful with the broadbrush on k-12. Lots of really good school systems in the south. Obviously some bad ones as well. But people might be surprised at some of the northern states that lose the literacy race to southern states.

How much has the South improved since Northerners started coming there? Kind of ironic that Southerners are calling it a victory when they're more or less being colonized by the North.

Assimilation, not colonization.

So economy, jobs, property value and an increase in ATPM* all coincide with Northerners(and as BB pointed out...Westerners) taking the South over and you call that assimilation? Face it, Cletus.....cheap land.....Northerners hoodwinked and beat you guys...AGAIN!. If you Sons of the South aren't complaining about the Northern Invasion already (and I know most of you are)....wait until a few years when we really ramp it up....Search you're feelings...you know it be true.

*Average Tooths Per Mouth.

It baffles me that you Northerners claim some sort of educational superiority.

The you're I corrected. The Tooths were an attempt to engage with words a Southerner might feel more comfortable.

"Tooths" is a reference to a word, and therefore the reference is singular in that sentence. Can you guess what form of the verb "to be" should be used in that instance?

 

[Henry Ford]

I am going to disagree with BB on the education thing. There are some really, really good schools in the south. UNC is one of the best public systems in the country as one example. And be careful with the broadbrush on k-12. Lots of really good school systems in the south. Obviously some bad ones as well. But people might be surprised at some of the northern states that lose the literacy race to southern states.

You're going to stack UNC up against all the Ivys? Come on.

The Ivys are overrated. 8 schools, take out Brown, which is a joke, that leaves 7 (and Cornell is a close call). UNC, Duke, Vandy, UT, Tulane, Rice, UVA are all in that class (or better).

Are there good schools in the South? Sure. But trying to argue that South beats the North in higher education generally just causes you to lose credibility, IMO.

Definitely.

 

[avoiding injuries]

I declare Maryland to be neutral and both a Northern AND Southern state.

We combine the high incomes, good schools, and high taxes of the Northern states, with the great seafood, decent weather, history of farming, and friendlier people (friendlier than most in the North anyway) of the South. I am of course excluding Baltimore from all of the above.

PG, Mont, Howard and Balt city are North. Everything else is South.

 

[bigbottom]

For what it's worth, Shining Path was one of the smartest dudes around, and he was from New Orleans and was a Birmingham resident.

 

[mr roboto]

NFW that DC is in the south. Come on.

 

[SeaDogStat]

There wuz one?

- Cruiser (Stripes)

 

[Aaron Rudnicki]

Because they are spoiled brats, thats normally why i dont like them. Entitled snobs...

aren't you from Maine?

 

[dgreen]

Northerners think DC is a Southern city and Southerners think it is a northern city.

 

[dgreen]

The Midatlantic is a blend of North and South.

 

[James Daulton]

I declare Maryland to be neutral and both a Northern AND Southern state.

We combine the high incomes, good schools, and high taxes of the Northern states, with the great seafood, decent weather, history of farming, and friendlier people (friendlier than most in the North anyway) of the South. I am of course excluding Baltimore from all of the above.

PG, Mont, Howard and Balt city are North. Everything else is South.

See, we go both ways.

 

[dgreen]

What makes PG County North? I think it is more Southern.

 

[johnnycakes]

Map of northern & southern states. hth.

 

[Henry Ford]

Map of northern & southern states. hth.

I think we can all agree that everything's better than the Indian Territory.

 

[Officer Pete Malloy]

Map of northern & southern states. hth.

Kentucky needs to be in the south IMO.

 

[avoiding injuries]

What makes PG County North? I think it is more Southern.

I think it's an extension of DC, which is very North-like. Why would it be South?

 

[sporthenry]

I am going to disagree with BB on the education thing. There are some really, really good schools in the south. UNC is one of the best public systems in the country as one example. And be careful with the broadbrush on k-12. Lots of really good school systems in the south. Obviously some bad ones as well. But people might be surprised at some of the northern states that lose the literacy race to southern states.

You're going to stack UNC up against all the Ivys? Come on.

The Ivys are overrated. 8 schools, take out Brown, which is a joke, that leaves 7 (and Cornell is a close call). UNC, Duke, Vandy, UT, Tulane, Rice, UVA are all in that class (or better).

Are there good schools in the South? Sure. But trying to argue that South beats the North in higher education generally just causes you to lose credibility, IMO.

If you threw out the Ivies, you'd probably have a fair fight.

 

[sporthenry]

Map of northern & southern states. hth.

Kentucky needs to be in the south IMO.

So does WV but the North might put up with them just for their coal. Also dropping the New Mexico territory.

 

[timschochet]

I declare Maryland to be neutral and both a Northern AND Southern state.

We combine the high incomes, good schools, and high taxes of the Northern states, with the great seafood, decent weather, history of farming, and friendlier people (friendlier than most in the North anyway) of the South. I am of course excluding Baltimore from all of the above.

Loved Hairspray.

 

[George Jefferson Airplane]

Here is the main problem with the south:

"Kelly describes himself as 50 percent Tennessee fan and 50 percent Alabama fan."

 

[TheIronSheik]

Map of northern & southern states. hth.

I think we can all agree that everything's better than the Indian Territory.

####### redskins.

 

[The Commish]

Here is the main problem with the south:

"Kelly describes himself as 50 percent Tennessee fan and 50 percent Alabama fan."

That's not a south problem, that's an SEC honk problem.

 

[Mister CIA]

Suppose you are a Young Earth Creationist and you don't want your kids heads brainwashed with all that science stuff. Which region will you feel more comfortable in?

Missouri.

 

[Greggity]

Because they are spoiled brats, thats normally why i dont like them. Entitled snobs...

aren't you from Maine?

Yes, ironic isnt it....

 

[chauncey]

 

[TheIronSheik]

Who has the better looking dudes?

 

[Henry Ford]

Who has the better looking dudes?

I think only the guys from the North will be able the answer that one.

 

[Greggity]

Who has the better looking dudes?

The north since the guys date guys up there....

 

[Henry Ford]

Who has the better looking dudes?

The north since the guys date guys up there....

They do it down here, too. But they have much more stringent tastes in men, I think.

 

[George Jefferson Airplane]

Suppose you are a Young Earth Creationist and you don't want your kids heads brainwashed with all that science stuff. Which region will you feel more comfortable in?

Missouri.

Greater Ozarks in particualr

 

[GoFishTN]

Fwiw, Tejas has some of the top public high schools in the country according to US News.

ETA: I am somewhat skeptical of the report, however, because Lexington didn't even make their top 10 in Massachusetts. In most surveys I've seen, Lexington is always in the top 5 state-wide. Families move here especially for the schools... once their kids graduate, they move to a lower-rent area.

Per that link the #1, #3, #4, #6, and #8 high schools in the US are in the South. Man, our education sure does suck down here.

Edit: The north doesn't show up until #9.

 

[Greggity]

Fwiw, Tejas has some of the top public high schools in the country according to US News.

ETA: I am somewhat skeptical of the report, however, because Lexington didn't even make their top 10 in Massachusetts. In most surveys I've seen, Lexington is always in the top 5 state-wide. Families move here especially for the schools... once their kids graduate, they move to a lower-rent area.

Per that link the #1, #3, #4, #6, and #8 high schools in the US are in the South. Man, our education sure does suck down here.

Game, blouses....

 

[Henry Ford]

Map of northern & southern states. hth.

Kentucky needs to be in the south IMO.

I'm okay with part of it being the South, but part of it should be merged with Ohio.

 

[SaintsInDome2006]

Fwiw, Tejas has some of the top public high schools in the country according to US News.

ETA: I am somewhat skeptical of the report, however, because Lexington didn't even make their top 10 in Massachusetts. In most surveys I've seen, Lexington is always in the top 5 state-wide. Families move here especially for the schools... once their kids graduate, they move to a lower-rent area.

Per that link the #1, #3, #4, #6, and #8 high schools in the US are in the South. Man, our education sure does suck down here.

Edit: The north doesn't show up until #9.

You have to hand it to Texas, when oil was just getting started they put their money in the future. Other parts of the South have just never considered early education important though. There are definitely some excellent state college systems though.

 

[dgreen]

What makes PG County North? I think it is more Southern.

I think it's an extension of DC, which is very North-like.Why would it be South?

Downtown DC and it's most urbanized/dense areas are North-like. The rest, IMO, is more South-like. Anecdotally, I think a lot of DC's black population who moved from DC to PG decades ago are starting to head further down to Southern Maryland. At least that's what my white Charles County friends complain about.

 

[George Jefferson Airplane]

DC is controlled by yuppies and manbearpigs, not sure where they originate from.

 

[sporthenry]

Fwiw, Tejas has some of the top public high schools in the country according to US News.

ETA: I am somewhat skeptical of the report, however, because Lexington didn't even make their top 10 in Massachusetts. In most surveys I've seen, Lexington is always in the top 5 state-wide. Families move here especially for the schools... once their kids graduate, they move to a lower-rent area.

Per that link the #1, #3, #4, #6, and #8 high schools in the US are in the South. Man, our education sure does suck down here.

Edit: The north doesn't show up until #9.

*Public High Schools.

 

[dgreen]

Map of northern & southern states. hth.

Kentucky needs to be in the south IMO.

I'm okay with part of it being the South, but part of it should be merged with Ohio.

I definitely get a Southern vibe from Louisville. Reminds me of what Nashville used to be. It's a city on the rise.

Plus, they say "Lou-vull" which is clearly Southern.