Liquid Tension
Footballguy
Pretty much standard knowledge that he has one of teh weakest arms for a starting QB in football. Stronger than Pennington though.Why? Do you doubt it?
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Why does bad weather favour the Bears? (1 Viewer)
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Liquid Tension
Footballguy
No, your blood actually thickens. This is true. I forget the exact transformation that takes place but I had heard about it and read something from a Harvard review awhile back, I was in the Ice Cream industry for about 8 years and people had confirmed what I read. Maybe someone on these boards can give the actual reason?
Liquid Tension
Footballguy
Folks, don't you think that warm weather teams struggle more in winter games on the road that warm games on the road? Don't you think that a cold weather team that goes to Miami in September has more trouble dealing with the heat than going on the road to Buffalo or anyplace colder? It is what you are used to and accustomed to. Yes Miami players have thinner blood in Miami
The same on both sidelines, no doubt.The weather could be snowy enough to depress offensive performance for both teams and to magnify the importance of special teams, kickers and penalties. The Bears have better return teams - not sure who is better on the other areas.Forecast for sunday:
Snow
High 29°F
Low
28°F
Precip: 70%
Wind: ESE
at 11 mph
Snow likely. Highs in the upper 20s with temperatures nearly steady overnite.
Rex in the cold v. the 32 ranked pass D:6/19 34 yds 0/3Forecast for sunday:
Snow
High 29°F
Low
28°F
Precip: 70%
Wind: ESE
at 11 mph
Snow likely. Highs in the upper 20s with temperatures nearly steady overnite.
Still smiling?
bullitt
Footballguy
nope, now I am.....
If you think the cold is the reason for Grossman's bad performance, explain the other ones then.
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guderian
Footballguy
He heaved one 65 yards in the air last week. He had the best completion percentage of any QB on deep passes. What else are you looking for?
guderian
Footballguy
He's a marginal an in-consistent QB maybe?nope, now I am.....
LOL at the Bears' fans continuously praying for the weather like it's a crutch.
bullitt
Footballguy
Pygmy Marmoset
Footballguy
Just let it go. Anyone who hasn't watched Brees play consistently believes this "noodle-arm" crap.He's not weak-armed. You know it, and I know it.
CletiusMaximus
Footballguy
Its a beautiful day in Chicago today - perfect football weather. Weather will be a non-factor tomorrow if it stays in the 20's. If it gets into the low 30's by kickoff, the snow will become rain/slush and may impact the game, but I'm not sure it will favor one team over the other.
Pygmy Marmoset
Footballguy
No, he's no Kyle Boller. One of the ways I distinguish them from each other, for instance, is that Drew Brees is a starting QB. Another is that Brees is a Pro-Bowler. Still further can we distinguish the two by explaining that Brees is playing in a conference championship."Not Kyle Boller" is a far cry from a weak arm, however. Kyle Boller has one of the strongest arms in the league. Brees has plenty of zip on the ball and deep-ball accuracy to go with it.
GRIDIRON ASSASSIN
Footballguy
Since I don't recall Drew Brees playing any home games for Purdue in late December, early January, I took a look into his outdoor games in cold weather in the NFL:
02 @ Buffalo Lost 0TD / 0INT 1 FUMBLE
02 @ KC Lost 2TD / 0INT
03 @ Pittsburgh Lost 1TD / 2 INT 1 FUMBLE
04 @ Cleveland Won 1TD / 0INT
05 @ KC Lost 0TD / 0INT
06 @ NYGiants Won 1TD / 0INT
So he put up 5 TDs, 2 Interceptions and 2 fumbles, and posted a 2-4 record
Wow... that's getting the job done over six games.
02 @ Buffalo Lost 0TD / 0INT 1 FUMBLE
02 @ KC Lost 2TD / 0INT
03 @ Pittsburgh Lost 1TD / 2 INT 1 FUMBLE
04 @ Cleveland Won 1TD / 0INT
05 @ KC Lost 0TD / 0INT
06 @ NYGiants Won 1TD / 0INT
So he put up 5 TDs, 2 Interceptions and 2 fumbles, and posted a 2-4 record
Wow... that's getting the job done over six games.
Pygmy Marmoset
Footballguy
Rex Grossman
03 MIN 13-30 157 yds. 0 TD 0 INT 1 FUMBLE 1 SACK
03 WAS 19-32 249 yds. 2 TD 1 INT 2 FUMBLES 2 SACK
03 @KC 6-10 31 yds. 0/0/0/0
05 ATL 9-16 93 yds. 0 TD 1 INT
05 @ GB 11-23 166 yds. 1 TD 1 INT 1 SACK
06 TB 29-44 339 yds. 2 TD 4 SACK
06 GB 2-12 33 yds. 3 INT 1 FUMBLE 1 SACK
07 SEA 21-38 282 yds. 1 TD 1 INT 1 FUMBLE 3 SACK
So, with a larger sample than Brees, I suppose we should look at his numbers.
215 attempts. 110 completions. 1350 yds. 6 TDs. 7 INT. 5 FUMBLES. 12 SACK.
In 8 games.
Yup. Rex sure has the edge there.
03 MIN 13-30 157 yds. 0 TD 0 INT 1 FUMBLE 1 SACK
03 WAS 19-32 249 yds. 2 TD 1 INT 2 FUMBLES 2 SACK
03 @KC 6-10 31 yds. 0/0/0/0
05 ATL 9-16 93 yds. 0 TD 1 INT
05 @ GB 11-23 166 yds. 1 TD 1 INT 1 SACK
06 TB 29-44 339 yds. 2 TD 4 SACK
06 GB 2-12 33 yds. 3 INT 1 FUMBLE 1 SACK
07 SEA 21-38 282 yds. 1 TD 1 INT 1 FUMBLE 3 SACK
So, with a larger sample than Brees, I suppose we should look at his numbers.
215 attempts. 110 completions. 1350 yds. 6 TDs. 7 INT. 5 FUMBLES. 12 SACK.
In 8 games.
Yup. Rex sure has the edge there.
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Are you seriously trying to support your general claim by using Tom Brady as your example?Has Favre played well as well indoors as outdoors over his career?
DoubleG
Footballguy
...and both are once again the case tommorow - which makes the stat as applicable as ever.
Pygmy Marmoset
Footballguy
True. Except that1. The Saints have a better record away than at home this year.2. The reason the Bears have a better record is that they had the easiest schedule in the country, while the Saints had the 3rd toughest....and both are once again the case tommorow - which makes the stat as applicable as ever.
GRIDIRON ASSASSIN
Footballguy
Weather for Chicago:
A SNOW ADVISORY IS IN EFFECT FROM 3AM TO 6PM CST SUNDAY. SNOW SHOULD BE RATHER STEADY BETWEEN SUNRISE AND MIDDAY THEN MORE INTERMITTENT DURING THE AFTERNOON ON SUNDAY. 2 TO 4 INCH ACCUMULATIONS WITH A FEW AREAS UP TO 5 INCHES MAY BE EXPECTED.
A SNOW ADVISORY IS IN EFFECT FROM 3AM TO 6PM CST SUNDAY. SNOW SHOULD BE RATHER STEADY BETWEEN SUNRISE AND MIDDAY THEN MORE INTERMITTENT DURING THE AFTERNOON ON SUNDAY. 2 TO 4 INCH ACCUMULATIONS WITH A FEW AREAS UP TO 5 INCHES MAY BE EXPECTED.
guderian
Footballguy
Looks like everything favors the Bears...
GRIDIRON ASSASSIN
Footballguy
Bush will be a non-factor in this game now. Unless of course he continues to fumble.
Nutty Tillman needs to shut down Colston - which should be no problem for the rangy Tillman, and they need to contain the damage caused by Deuce McCallister.
I say whoever wins the turnover battle wins this game.
So it's Bush vs. Grossman/Hester
Nutty Tillman needs to shut down Colston - which should be no problem for the rangy Tillman, and they need to contain the damage caused by Deuce McCallister.
I say whoever wins the turnover battle wins this game.
So it's Bush vs. Grossman/Hester
bullitt
Footballguy
Especially playing the Saints, that is the biggest thing that favors the Bears.
guderian
Footballguy
You haven't seen any Saints games if you think Bush is such an important cog that it comes down to him v. Grossman/Hester.
guderian
Footballguy
It's teed up high for the Bears, all they have to do is hit the ball solid.Especially playing the Saints, that is the biggest thing that favors the Bears.
bullitt
Footballguy
It's gonna be so easy for the Bears, I bet Grossman doesn't even prepare for this game.It's teed up high for the Bears, all they have to do is hit the ball solid.Especially playing the Saints, that is the biggest thing that favors the Bears.
guderian
Footballguy
It's gonna be so easy for the Bears, I bet Grossman doesn't even prepare for this game.It's teed up high for the Bears, all they have to do is hit the ball solid.Especially playing the Saints, that is the biggest thing that favors the Bears.
Thom Yorke
Footballguy
Yep. I'm not even sure why they're playing this one.It's teed up high for the Bears, all they have to do is hit the ball solid.Especially playing the Saints, that is the biggest thing that favors the Bears.
Mad Strategist
Footballguy
The Saints have won more games on the road than at home this season.
The Bears have lost more games at home than on the road this season.
Food for thought.
The Bears have lost more games at home than on the road this season.
Food for thought.
bullitt
Footballguy
"You want to crown them, then crown their ###!!!"Yep. I'm not even sure why they're playing this one.It's teed up high for the Bears, all they have to do is hit the ball solid.Especially playing the Saints, that is the biggest thing that favors the Bears.
sainttillidie
Footballguy
I cant wait for them to just play the damn game 
GRIDIRON ASSASSIN
Footballguy
Me too sainttillidie... good call!I cant wait for them to just play the damn game
FunkyPlutos
Footballguy
I guess I don't see snow as "bad" weather (of course I live in South Dakota)...snow is only bad if it is accompanied by high winds. Snow is less of a factor than rain, so I don't think it is a big deal.
The truth is the weather will definitely play a factor. But, no one knows who it will affect more; or who will handle it better. Gameplans will be different, the passing game is an unknown, footing is unknown.
Make no mistake that this is a different game than one that would have been played in 45 degree sunny weather. People who say it will have no effect are kidding themselves. In the end, the same team may in both conditions, but there will be a definite effect.
Make no mistake that this is a different game than one that would have been played in 45 degree sunny weather. People who say it will have no effect are kidding themselves. In the end, the same team may in both conditions, but there will be a definite effect.
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Liquid Tension
Footballguy
Not sure what game you were watching but Brees did NOT air one 65 yards last week. Are you saying he doesn't have a weak arm?
Liquid Tension
Footballguy
No, everyone knows he has a weak arm including himself. He was on a pro football challenge 2 or 3 years ago. He won one of the events which was an accuracy drill. Afterwards he was asked about his expectations and he said something similar to "It is clear I don't have the arm strength compared to most guys , but I am extremely accurate so I knew I could do well in this event." Then watching him play, I would agree that if he didn't get a chance to really step into a throw he was short on many long routes last year.
428143
Footballguy
Practicing inside all-week (I'm not buying this, by the way) would be a huge mistake. Anyone with a basic understanding of human physiology understands that the body needs some time to adjust to new surroundings, especially freezing ####ing cold ones. Nevertheless, the guys running the Saints 'aint nodody's fool, they have prepared the team, in one way or another.
GRIDIRON ASSASSIN
Footballguy
Since it starting snowing heavier, the Bears have OWNED the Saints. I rest my case.A safety followed by 14 more unanswered points.BEARS!!!!
I agree completely.Perhaps the bad weather does not make the Bears any better, but it certainly hurts the Saints more than the Bears. That much has been made clear today.BEARS!!!!!!!!!
GRIDIRON ASSASSIN
Footballguy
Bad weather doesn't favor the team that practiced in nice weather, or the team behind. But the Saints were not THAT far behind when the snow started falling heavier.BEARS!!!!!!
I definitely think that the bad weather (even just the cold early in game) is at least partially responsible for the early turnovers. For the dude that asked why Bears fans were praying for snow, now you know.GO BEARS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
It is not horribly difficult to watch TV and type on a laptop at the same time.Just sayin.
DoubleG
Footballguy
0-10...now.
DoubleG
Footballguy
For what it's worth (a little after the fact admittadley) the Saints did, indeed, practice indoors all last week. Meanwhile, Lovie Smith told the Bears "We're going to play in it on Sunday, so we're going to practice in it during the week." (i.e. the Bears, who normally practice inside, practiced outside all week). Chicago radio hosts who spent the week in NO confirmed the former, while local news video confirmed the latter.FWIW, the Bears defense is what made the Saints play poorly, not the weather, IMHO. Incidentally, you may want to let Reggie Bush know that pointing in the defensive captain's face and doing that college dive roll into the endzone, then doing a poor imitation of Chad Johnson's river dance when you're still losing, is a sure fire way to piss off one of the best defenses in the league. (Not to mention make it necessary for the opposing fans to chant "REG---GIE" when you come up short on 4th and 1).
